Gulam Bodi gets 20 year ban, now jailed for 5 years [Update Post#108]

[Gabbar Singh]

Here we go again....

Cape Town - According to reports, the “intermediary” in the ongoing Ram Slam T20 match-fixing case is a former Proteas player.

In mid-December 2015, Cricket South Africa (CSA) confirmed that its Anti-Corruption and Security Unit had charged a perpetrator - operating as an intermediary - under its Anti-Corruption Code for contriving to "fix, or otherwise improperly influence aspects of last year's tournament".

In addition, the "intermediary" was also charged with failing or refusing to co-operate with the investigation.

The tournament, which ran between November 1 and December 12, 2015, was won by the Titans who beat the Dolphins by seven wickets in a one-sided final at SuperSport Park in Centurion.

CSA has remained tight-lipped over the identity of the individual to date, but according to respected cricket writer and commentator Neil Manthorp, the ringleader is a former national player - who is almost certain to face prison time for his actions.

In addition, a legal case is being prepared against a number of domestic players for corruption during this season's tournament. Other players are expected to be charged with the lesser crime of "failure to report" suspicious or illegal activity.

Sadly, the revelations will no doubt reopen the wounds of Hansie-gate in 2000 when former Proteas skipper Hansie Cronje was convicted of dealing with illegal bookmakers.

Cronje, who was banned from cricket for life due to his role in the match-fixing scandal, died in a plane crash on June 1, 2002.

While the International Cricket Council (ICC) has gone to great lengths to rid the game of unscrupulous individuals, it's clear those willing to tarnish the gentleman's game, still exist within the sport.

The world's eyes will be firmly glued on CSA to see how the governing organisation in South Africa deal with the latest blight on the sport.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/T2...match-fixing-ex-protea-to-be-charged-20160112

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

There goes the argument that cheating in sports is limited to Pakistan because we have players who are poor and uneducated.

Sad as it is, I find some solace in the fact that the knives aren't going to center around us as a nation when it comes to match and spot fixing.

First the Indians (Sreesanth and co.), after that the Kiwis, and now this.

Someday, I may actually start believing completely in the things that Sarfaraz Nawaz says. I can hear the dark side call my name, only for now, i stand firm maintaining my naivety.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

There has been fixing in the ICL, IPL, BPL, SLPL, Friends Provident t20, and now the Ram Slam.

It's actually quite shocking now when a T20 league takes place without any fixing.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Well done to the South Africans for not brushing this under the carpet like some boards do when it comes to fixing in T20 leagues.

Former South Africa cricketer faces Ram Slam match-fixing charges

South African cricket is bracing itself for the biggest match-fixing scandal to hit the country since its former Test captain, Hansie Cronje, was banned for life in 2000, with an investigation into corruption during the recent Ram Slam Twenty20 competition understood to be close to completion.

Cricket South Africa announced on 15 December last year that it had charged an “intermediary” under its anti-corruption code for “contriving to fix, or otherwise improperly influence aspects” of the tournament, as well as refusing to cooperate with its enquiries. Now a column by the respected journalist and broadcaster, Neil Manthorp, in Business Day has revealed that a legal case is being prepared against “a significant number of domestic players” with the ringleader – the “intermediary” referred to last month – known to be a former South African international cricketer.

While a number of players are set to be charged with “failure to report” approaches, the report said the ringleader is facing possible jail time for his part in the scam.

Match-fixing was made illegal in South Africa in 2004 under the Prevention and Combating of Corrupt Activities Act Law, introduced four years after Cronje admitted to his role in manipulating international games. Speaking in December, Haroon Lorgat, CSA’s chief executive, said: “Our attitude to corruption will always be one of zero tolerance and we are confident that we have the necessary structures in place to effectively deal with any corrupt activity.

“We will relentlessly pursue under our code and the law of the land any persons we believe to be involved in corrupting the game and, with assistance from the police, we will also seek criminal prosecution.”

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/13/former-south-africa-player-fixing-charges

 

[Rafa]

What is the name of Cricketer?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

What is the name of Cricketer?

The name hasn't been released yet.

Investigators from the ACU have been working for weeks on a complex case that is expected to become public once the Test series against England is completed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cr...r-evidence-of-corruption-in-Ram-Slam-T20.html

 

[Stewie]

Does not sound good.

 

[Pete Rose]

Oh good. A lot of aggreived Pakistani fans can sleep easy as they get opportunity to liberally tar a wider set of players and feel good about it. Get in the usual shots at ipl etc

 

[tahir_dj]

Oh good. A lot of aggreived Pakistani fans can sleep easy as they get opportunity to liberally tar a wider set of players and feel good about it. Get in the usual shots at ipl etc

So you are saying ipl is free from match fxing?

 

[Pete Rose]

So you are saying ipl is free from match fxing?

Couldn't be bothered.

 

[tahir_dj]

Couldn't be bothered.

I didnt ask whether you are bothered or not
I am asking is ipl free from match fixing or spot fixing since you are critical of Pakistani fans when they bring ipl into it.

 

[Slog]

if it was a Pak league we would be hearing 'conspiracy, conspiracy.'

Interesting to see some PPers are actually excited at this news

 

[Slog]

It's kinda shocking how fixing is so penetrate into cricket still despite tougher sanctions and constant bad press regarding it

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

It's kinda shocking how fixing is so penetrate into cricket still despite tougher sanctions and constant bad press regarding it

I think, this malaise runs deeper than we are made to believe.

There has to be more than just fixing for money.

I saw a documentary once in which they showed how people were recruited for gang wars. The psychological warfare, the bullying tactics, the emotional and physical blackmail all created for a deeper problem than it appeared on the surface.

 

[tahir_dj]

if it was a Pak league we would be hearing 'conspiracy, conspiracy.'

Interesting to see some PPers are actually excited at this news

No one is excited.
Only problem is the double standard
Everyone is still ranting about Amir Asif and Butt and the threads gets full with replies especially the moral high ranters from across the border.
Even though there are so many thread already existed there are still replies going on and on about same things

It should be equally highlighted not selectively.

 

[Slog]

No one is excited.
Only problem is the double standard
Everyone is still ranting about Amir Asif and Butt and the threads gets full with replies especially the moral high ranters from across the border.
Even though there are so many thread already existed there are still replies going on and on about same things

It should be equally highlighted not selectively.

Amir Asif and Butt sold their country.

These guys are just doing it in a random t20 league that no one cares about so ofcourse it's not going to get that much media attention.

But believe me this guy WILL be punished. And even though it's in a domestic league and not for his country he won't play for his country ever.Like Sreesanth was punished. Like Lou Vincent was punished. Like Ashraful was. And others. Most were banned FOR LIFE. And will not represent their country.

So don't see what your point is.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Ban these leagues and save cricket.

 

[asyed]

Angels right??
Yupp i knew Indians are good at angles #WeInventedZero ?

Well at least this is the impression I get out of almost every thread on PP.

 

[tahir_dj]

Amir Asif and Butt sold their country.

These guys are just doing it in a random t20 league that no one cares about so ofcourse it's not going to get that much media attention.

But believe me this guy WILL be punished. And even though it's in a domestic league and not for his country he won't play for his country ever.Like Sreesanth was punished. Like Lou Vincent was punished. Like Ashraful was. And others. Most were banned FOR LIFE. And will not represent their country.

So don't see what your point is.

Fixing is fixing whether its in domestic or international
We have players banned for life too

The ban on these three was imposed by icc and lifted by icc not pcb. And at the time of the bans it was mentioned that this was minimum they could give so that means if the minimum was between 1 month to 4 years 11 month they would have been given between.

Since icc doesn't have problem with them playing any form of cricket so why should every one.

And as far as the players you mentioned one is clearly mentioned former proteas so there was never a chance of him coming back anyway. And sreesanth before his ban when did he played last for india?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

if it was a Pak league we would be hearing 'conspiracy, conspiracy.'

Interesting to see some PPers are actually excited at this news

If by excited you mean 'very enthusiastic and eager' I'm proud to say I am. For too long this has been brushed under the carpet by various cricket boards in order to protect their 'product' and cash cow. Cricket stinks and if some big names are exposed as fixers then so be it.

If this was tackled properly in the past and certain players were caught and banned for life in their prime back then perhaps the game would not be as dirty as it is right now.

 

[Monsee]

If by excited you mean 'very enthusiastic and eager' I'm proud to say I am. For too long this has been brushed under the carpet by various cricket boards in order to protect their 'product' and cash cow. Cricket stinks and if some big names are exposed as fixers then so be it.

If this was tackled properly in the past and certain players were caught and banned for life in their prime back then perhaps the game would not be as dirty as it is right now.

+1, from Australia, to England, to SA, to NZ, to Lanka, to off course India, to WI...almost all of them try to hide the info as long as they can. I mean look at SA, they still don't want to reveal the fool who is guilty, why is he someone's damaad or something?

There is not a single country that can say without lying, none of our players have ever been involved in such things...off course one thing is common in all fixing issues, an Indian bookie, it is as if they own the industry!

 

[Slog]

The nationality of the bookie doesn't matter. So not sure why people are using it to take a potshot at India. Are the desperation levels so high? Bookies exist to fix. It's upto the cricketers to not get roped into it and sell their pride for money. Honestly people talking about origins of bookies are exhibiting the most ******** logic ever.

 

[Slog]

And as far as the players you mentioned one is clearly mentioned former proteas so there was never a chance of him coming back anyway. And sreesanth before his ban when did he played last for india?

Sreesanth was still in contention but that's besides the point. Are you trying to say that other active Indian national team players are fixing too and Sreesanth was just used as a scapegoat or sth?

 

[tahir_dj]

Sreesanth was still in contention but that's besides the point. Are you trying to say that other active Indian national team players are fixing too and Sreesanth was just used as a scapegoat or sth?

First of all it was you who brought it up about Pakistanis crying conspiracy consipiracy and now you are saying alwe are brining india into this.

As for sreesantnt n co
Why were 2 teams banned and their players were free to be choosen by new teams?
And why were they only banned for 2 years only since indian ppers always ranting that they ban any fixer for life so by that logic the teams should have been banned for life.

And no one has any clue yet about 6 names in the envelope.

 

[Pete Rose]

I didnt ask whether you are bothered or not
I am asking is ipl free from match fixing or spot fixing since you are critical of Pakistani fans when they bring ipl into it.

I think the ipl and other leagues serve a purpose far greater whatever grand evil side effects your limited imagination serves. It gives professional athletes the kind of payday never associated with cricket.
And since you really want to go there, pakistan has more players entangled or convicted of spot fixing than any other board. But you can rejoice at this particular event if it serves as a balm.

 

[Slog]

Why were 2 teams banned and their players were free to be choosen by new teams?
And why were they only banned for 2 years only since indian ppers always ranting that they ban any fixer for life so by that logic the teams should have been banned for life.

e.

Sreesanth and 2 other players were BANNED FOR LIFE for spot fixing.

The 2 teams were banned for a few years because of the activities of their owners which didn't specifically come under the realm of match fixing. The players in those teams were never involved in corruption and likely didn't even know if the going ons so it's ridiculous of you to question why they can play for other teams now.

Next in the instalment of victim mentality please

 

[tahir_dj]

If by excited you mean 'very enthusiastic and eager' I'm proud to say I am. For too long this has been brushed under the carpet by various cricket boards in order to protect their 'product' and cash cow. Cricket stinks and if some big names are exposed as fixers then so be it.

If this was tackled properly in the past and certain players were caught and banned for life in their prime back then perhaps the game would not be as dirty as it is right now.

And biggest example
Brendon macullum for not reporting the approach by chris to spot fix. Yet that poor player from hong kong is banned.
How on earth did he get away from the punishment is everyones guess. And everyone is being so sympathising with him for admiting after so many years.

 

[tahir_dj]

Post indicates type before thought syndrome. Surely you can do better.

Ok so after your thought syndrome please tell us is ipl free from match fixing?

 

[Monsee]

Putting their heads in the sand, and talking to the tune of BCCI i.e. oh your country has had more cricketers convicted of fixing, has one huge flaw in the argument i.e. if almost all bookies are Indians, wouldn't it be easier, convenient, and literally within grasp of them bookies to try and corrupt Indian cricketers first?

Before anyone says oh Indian cricketers make so much that they will never fix, I don't think Azhar, Jadeja, and Sreesanath were poor by any imagination since they played for India for quite a while especially the first two!

Now the matter of more Pakistanis being convicted or punished for fixing, well if your board did not brush some bigger names under the carpet back then, you will have more names listed under the accused/guilty list as well. Bottom Line is, what we have been saying in this thread, no country can say with conviction their players have been free of fixing offences, period!

 

[tahir_dj]

Sreesanth and 2 other players were BANNED FOR LIFE for spot fixing.

The 2 teams were banned for a few years because of the activities of their owners which didn't specifically come under the realm of match fixing. The players in those teams were never involved in corruption and likely didn't even know if the going ons so it's ridiculous of you to question why they can play for other teams now.

Next in the instalment of victim mentality please

I guess you are calling yourself a patient of victim mentality there. When out of no where you brought Pakistanis into this by saying we would have been crying conspiracy consipiracy.

I guess you didnt follow fully or you dodnt read my comment about 6 names which bcci is trying their best to prevent court from revealing. Which accordingly had the names of some international players.

How can owner fix the match without getting help from their players?
I am sure the owner wouldnt have bet money for loosing cause unless they knew they could get their players to manipulate the certain overs of the match?

 

[tahir_dj]

Oh that will never even be discussed...wonder why he all of a sudden decided to call it quits?

Thats the thing which baffled me the most that how all of sudden he retired from international cricket when he was at his peak and no one could have guess
There must be more to this than just a retirement out of blue.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Hope PSL goes safe and successfull without any hiccups like this...

 

[Slog]

Ok
Since you are singing the songs of bcci.

Why are those 6 names not being revealed.
Since bcci ban any one related to fixing for life so by that logic why the teams are banned for 2 years only?

And i guess you har forgotten that these 3 were banned by icc
Icc
And again ICC if you cant read clearly which in long is
International cricket council
Whose address is in dubai

As for pcb they also banned their players for life so your logic of PCB being lenient is illogical.

And for kaneria what ever he did he did it in England which comes under ecb jurisdiction not pcb and he has been banned for life by them and pcb have not supported him at all. And they also banned him from their own domestic cricket.

Your posts come across as broken rants.

I'm not singing songs of BCCI. I am just applauding them for taking steps to punish fixers at domestic level.

Pakistani players get caught and then banned for fixing in international cricket and abroad. This all stems from domestic cricket where there must be corruption too and if it was dealt with domestically like in India, then we wouldn't be embarrassed by fixing news in international cricket. Or do you believe that our cricketers are clean, doodh ke dhulay huway namaazis in domestics and only indulge in corruption at international stage? Or do you think it's conspiracies why they get caught?

 

[IcedCoffee]

You are crying about why other fixers like Tuffey, Sreesanth are not getting same attention and also with 'moral ranters' as you put it. It's due to 2 reasons:

1) it's a Pakistani forum so ofcourse posters will discuss Pakistani players involved infinitely more times.

2) Amir is the only convicted fixer who was banned and now has returned and will play for Pakistan. No other fixer has done the same after being convicted and sent to jail. If Tuffey or Sreesanth etc ever play again trust me the 'moral ranters' will be up in arms again. So there is no hypocrisy

(Samuels wasn't convicted of fixing btw if you plan to bring that up. Read up on what he was banned for.)

1) I'm sure he meant overall among the cricketing world, not just PP.

2) What Samuels did is equally as treacherous in my book as what Amir did. If anything, it would have more of an impact on the match than what the no-balls did.

 

[tahir_dj]

You are crying about why other fixers like Tuffey, Sreesanth are not getting same attention and also with 'moral ranters' as you put it. It's due to 2 reasons:

1) it's a Pakistani forum so ofcourse posters will discuss Pakistani players involved infinitely more times.

2) Amir is the only convicted fixer who was banned and now has returned and will play for Pakistan. No other fixer has done the same after being convicted and sent to jail. If Tuffey or Sreesanth etc ever play again trust me the 'moral ranters' will be up in arms again. So there is no hypocrisy

(Samuels wasn't convicted of fixing btw if you plan to bring that up. Read up on what he was banned for.)

No 1 is crying about tuffey or Sressanth and by the way sresanth is acquitted by their court i believe.
And dont worry those moral ranters will say they cant be bothered.

 

[tahir_dj]

Your posts come across as broken rants.

I'm not singing songs of BCCI. I am just applauding them for taking steps to punish fixers at domestic level.

Pakistani players get caught and then banned for fixing in international cricket and abroad. This all stems from domestic cricket where there must be corruption too and if it was dealt with domestically like in India, then we wouldn't be embarrassed by fixing news in international cricket. Or do you believe that our cricketers are clean, doodh ke dhulay huway namaazis in domestics and only indulge in corruption at international stage? Or do you think it's conspiracies why they get caught?

I dont think our players are clean and i dont have problem with our own fans are critical of them

But i do have problem when others especially indians say are there going on and on about them.

 

[Pete Rose]

Ok so after your thought syndrome please tell us is ipl free from match fixing?

How is that relevant? Is Pakistan free of match fixers? The question is a stupid one, simply because no one gives blanket assurance. Do you think Pakistan cricket is free of spot fixing/match fixing today?

 

[Junaids]

It's just very sad.

I was quite taken aback by [MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION]'s comments the other day about how Cricket Australia had been right not to even ask questions about the notorious go slow v Zimbabwe at the 2011 World Cup.

This sums up why I believe that every televised 20 and 50 over match worldwide includes spot fixed scoring segments.

The ICC and individual cricket boards have made a conscious decision never to investigate properly unless given a smoking gun (by a newspaper or the admirable Indian Police). They look for nothing so they don't even catch 0.1% of the fixing that occurs.

And the fact that they base the Anti-Corruption Unit in Dubai, with 3 part-time employees, and not in Delhi or Mumbai is the ultimate proof that they aren't even trying to catch anyone. Well, that plus the fact that until recently it reported to Srinivasan! How much more proof do you need?

 

[tahir_dj]

How is that relevant? Is Pakistan free of match fixers? The question is a stupid one, simply because no one gives blanket assurance. Do you think Pakistan cricket is free of spot fixing/match fixing today?

So it took you whole day to come up with this.

I asked you that because you said Pakistanis must be feeling good that others are also invovled in fixing today making it sound as if its only Pakistanis who fix matches.

So is indian cricket free of fixing than?

 

[HitWicket]

It's just very sad.

I was quite taken aback by [MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION]'s comments the other day about how Cricket Australia had been right not to even ask questions about the notorious go slow v Zimbabwe at the 2011 World Cup.

This sums up why I believe that every televised 20 and 50 over match worldwide includes spot fixed scoring segments.

The ICC and individual cricket boards have made a conscious decision never to investigate properly unless given a smoking gun (by a newspaper or the admirable Indian Police). They look for nothing so they don't even catch 0.1% of the fixing that occurs.

And the fact that they base the Anti-Corruption Unit in Dubai, with 3 part-time employees, and not in Delhi or Mumbai is the ultimate proof that they aren't even trying to catch anyone. Well, that plus the fact that until recently it reported to Srinivasan! How much more proof do you need?

The ICC have a list of contact details for 7 ACU managers alone on their website so I find this hard to believe. How is where it's based in anyway related to their intentions. The ACU officials travel the world to various games and where they're needed to be for a specific case, why would basing in a specific location, away from the central ICC offices, help in any way.

 

[Bewal Express]

Great news that more fixers have been caught and hopefully life bans will follow.

 

[90MPH]

Your posts come across as broken rants.

I'm not singing songs of BCCI. I am just applauding them for taking steps to punish fixers at domestic level.

Pakistani players get caught and then banned for fixing in international cricket and abroad. This all stems from domestic cricket where there must be corruption too and if it was dealt with domestically like in India, then we wouldn't be embarrassed by fixing news in international cricket. Or do you believe that our cricketers are clean, doodh ke dhulay huway namaazis in domestics and only indulge in corruption at international stage? Or do you think it's conspiracies why they get caught?

You are the type that would only contend with short term fixes. No wonder you fell for the drama staged about corruption last month by Hafeez.

And why does it Not matter where the bookies and illegal fixing syndicates originate from ?? Of course it bloody matters because that is the base where it originates and is thriving. Unless that is tackled in a more meaningful way (like the industry becoming legalised so strange bets and patterns can be identified at an early stage) then this phenomenon in cricket will always lurke and stay for a long time.

You are certainly not fooling me with your attempts to paint the this issue into a black and white one when comparing to Pakistan and India, and then the PCB and BCCI.

 

[in_cutter]

And the reason why I will never support such leagues.

What measures has PCB taken to prevent corruption?

 

[Fact]

First of all it was you who brought it up about Pakistanis crying conspiracy consipiracy and now you are saying alwe are brining india into this.

As for sreesantnt n co
Why were 2 teams banned and their players were free to be choosen by new teams?
And why were they only banned for 2 years only since indian ppers always ranting that they ban any fixer for life so by that logic the teams should have been banned for life.

And no one has any clue yet about 6 names in the envelope.

This is why it is important to get facts before spouting off lies, no team was banned in IPL, they were suspended because of owner/relative were charged with betting which means suspension in IPL rules.

 

[Fact]

I guess you are calling yourself a patient of victim mentality there. When out of no where you brought Pakistanis into this by saying we would have been crying conspiracy consipiracy.

I guess you didnt follow fully or you dodnt read my comment about 6 names which bcci is trying their best to prevent court from revealing. Which accordingly had the names of some international players.

How can owner fix the match without getting help from their players?
I am sure the owner wouldnt have bet money for loosing cause unless they knew they could get their players to manipulate the certain overs of the match?

Again you are posting libelous stuff here on PP, don't get into victim mentality and post libelous stuff here, the two IPL team owners/relatives were charged with betting, only betting, no fixing here and hence it resulted in suspension. and the six names were investigated including administrators and players and found to be innocent, so no need of maligning their names just because of their owners fault.

 

[Junaids]

The ICC have a list of contact details for 7 ACU managers alone on their website so I find this hard to believe. How is where it's based in anyway related to their intentions. The ACU officials travel the world to various games and where they're needed to be for a specific case, why would basing in a specific location, away from the central ICC offices, help in any way.

None of the ICC's regional anti-corruption managers have any resources or even any regular hours of employment.

If you followed the Chris Cairns case, when McCullum finally - after 2 years - reported his illegal approach, the regional anti-corruption manager failed to undertake any interviews, to compile any statements or even to charge McCullum - who had just confessed to a 30 month delay in disclosure - with late disclosure.

Cairns basically got off because the ICC completely failed to investigate and bring charges.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Fixing can be done by anyone who has the opportunity and "twisted sense of morality".

Nationality hardly matters.

But nice how some posters get excited at others fixing "when they should actually condemn it".

The excitement stems from "Hey , you do the same as us so why single us out".

We should be excited the day we managed to weed out corruption and fixing from domestics and no one is caught at international level in our team.

Yet we are excited at other's misfortunes.

What a sham.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Its ridiculous the amount of fixing that goes on cricket at various levels. No matter how many regulations are passed by the ICC, they simply can't stop it
.

 

[Pakcricket89]

There has been fixing in the ICL, IPL, BPL, SLPL, Friends Provident t20, and now the Ram Slam.

It's actually quite shocking now when a T20 league takes place without any fixing.

We need to manage PSL with great care

 

[JaDed]

Lodha panel has recommended betting and i think its time as well for it in India ,it would at least reduce fixing if such.

 

[Junaids]

"Former"?

Unless I've been given wrong information, he's only 26!

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Wonder who this could be

 

[uberkoen]

Whoever the culprit is in the Ram Slam T20 match fixing fiasco, I really hope they have a better defense than 'the devil made me do it'.

 

[Junaids]

Whoever the culprit is in the Ram Slam T20 match fixing fiasco, I really hope they have a better defense than 'the devil made me do it'.

If it's who I think it is, it's exactly what he's likely to say!

 

[street cricketer]

"Former"?

Unless I've been given wrong information, he's only 26!

Is he a left handed slogger?

 

[Junaids]

Is he a left handed slogger?

Actually no!

 

[uberkoen]

If it's who I think it is, it's exactly what he's likely to say!

Is he a left handed slogger?

I think you may have the wrong information. From what I understand this fellow is a 37 year old left-hand batsman who wasn't even born in SA.

 

[UpInTheAir]

They should just make fixing legal so it doesn't cause any more issues. Too much bad press for cricket. ICC is too misorganized.

Sent from pone

 

[tahir_dj]

Again you are posting libelous stuff here on PP, don't get into victim mentality and post libelous stuff here, the two IPL team owners/relatives were charged with betting, only betting, no fixing here and hence it resulted in suspension. and the six names were investigated including administrators and players and found to be innocent, so no need of maligning their names just because of their owners fault.

The team wete forced to be suspended by supreme court not by bcci
Bcci formed 2 man committee which even found the owners of those team not guilty of any offences.

So how can we expect that those names were really innocent.

How can an owner bet on his team unless he knows he can manipulate.

And why did dhoni lied to justice mudgal.

And since you think we got victim mentality so tell us is indian cricket free of fixing?

 

[street cricketer]

Actually no!

Is he a left arm bowler??

I've got him now!

 

[tahir_dj]

They should just make fixing legal so it doesn't cause any more issues. Too much bad press for cricket. ICC is too misorganized.

Sent from pone

Lol than whats the pointof watching cricket if the match fixing become legal
Or were you trying to say that the betting should be legalised

 

[Junaids]

I think you may have the wrong information. From what I understand this fellow is a 37 year old left-hand batsman who wasn't even born in SA.

We've got one of them at Lancashire, except ours was born in PE so that rules him out. Nice fella.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Not really a big name but yes he's played a handful of times for the national side. Shock, horror he's of Indian origin.

Gulam Bodi being investigated as fixing “ringleader” – reports

According to Netwerk24, Lions player Gulam Bodi is being investigated as the ringleader of the fixing saga that is currently engulfing the domestic game.

Bodi played two ODIs and one T20 for South Africa in 2007 and did not feature in this season’s Ram Slam competition. He has not played for his franchise since the beginning of 2015, when he retired from cricket.

Cricket South Africa suspended an “intermediary” from all cricketing activities last year and, according to Netwerk24, Bodi refused to comment when he was contacted by the paper.

Bodi is suspected of trying to influence players to “spot fix” during the 2015 Ram Slam tournament and, reportedly, has refused to co-operate with Cricket South Africa’s investigation.

Currently, Bodi has not been criminally charged, but he is being investigated by the South African police service, according to a Netwerk24 source. The internal Cricket South Africa investigation is also still ongoing.

http://www.thesouthafrican.com/gulam-bodi-being-investigated-as-fixing-ringleader-reports/

 

[Junaids]

I think you may have the wrong information. From what I understand this fellow is a 37 year old left-hand batsman who wasn't even born in SA.

Is he a left arm bowler??

I've got him now!

If it's a 37 year old then it definitely cannot be Wayne Parnell - he is in the clear.

 

[uberkoen]

Is he a left arm bowler??

I've got him now!

We've got one of them at Lancashire, except ours was born in PE so that rules him out. Nice fella.

I'm now confused. What's PE?

The guy I'm talking about was born in India. He made a couple of ODI appearances for SA and played for Delhi in the IPL. He's a left-handed batsman.

 

[Junaids]

No, [MENTION=107753]uberkoen[/MENTION], I was saying that we had a 37 year old left-hander at Lancashire but it can't be Ashwell Prince because he was born in Port Elizabeth.

I assumed there had to be an Indian connection and that it would be someone with an IPL contract. I still worry that auctions allow fixing money to be laundered as salary payments.

 

[UpInTheAir]

Lol than whats the pointof watching cricket if the match fixing become legal
Or were you trying to say that the betting should be legalised

If they don't release the results before hand it will still be interesting. Definitely also make more money if they get good writers.

Sent from pone

 

[Fact]

The team wete forced to be suspended by supreme court not by bcci
Bcci formed 2 man committee which even found the owners of those team not guilty of any offences.

So how can we expect that those names were really innocent.

How can an owner bet on his team unless he knows he can manipulate.

And why did dhoni lied to justice mudgal.

And since you think we got victim mentality so tell us is indian cricket free of fixing?

Dhoni did not lie to Justicee Mudgal and commit perjury, Dhoni said Meiyappan was not the team owner and Dhoni was correct as Meiyappan was a relative of owner, CSK still got punishment as Meiyappan was a close relative of owners. Owners can bet on their hunch and gut feeling, anything more you say here would be just imagination and also libelous.

If you don't think Justice Mudgal commission was correct in its judgement then there is nothing i can do about it, some of the names were innocent and cleared, Srinivasan was asked to resign due to conflict of interest and two teams were suspended because of owners betting, Meiyappan was also life-banned from any cricket activity.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

The nationality of the bookie doesn't matter. So not sure why people are using it to take a potshot at India. Are the desperation levels so high? Bookies exist to fix. It's upto the cricketers to not get roped into it and sell their pride for money. Honestly people talking about origins of bookies are exhibiting the most ******** logic ever.

That's actually very misleading.

Bookies don't exist to fix. Please educate yourself on this. The bookie is the one who makes a profit whoever wins. Gamblers are the ones who organize fixing. Some of those gamblers are also bookies, but in those fixed games they actually take positions instead of just arbitrage (which is what a bookie does).

Bookies aren't all illegal either. Some bookies are the largest companies in their countries where gambling is legal.

 

[Yossarian]

Dhoni did not lie to Justicee Mudgal and commit perjury, Dhoni said Meiyappan was not the team owner and Dhoni was correct as Meiyappan was a relative of owner, CSK still got punishment as Meiyappan was a close relative of owners. Owners can bet on their hunch and gut feeling, anything more you say here would be just imagination and also libelous.

If you don't think Justice Mudgal commission was correct in its judgement then there is nothing i can do about it, some of the names were innocent and cleared, Srinivasan was asked to resign due to conflict of interest and two teams were suspended because of owners betting, Meiyappan was also life-banned from any cricket activity.

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Dhoni did not lie to Justicee Mudgal and commit perjury, Dhoni said Meiyappan was not the team owner and Dhoni was correct as Meiyappan was a relative of owner

Yes a massive distinction between being an owner on the share certificate, or being the senior most official as well as being the owners son-in-law.

It's obvious that Dhoni carefully checked the list of shareholders, and the number of shares held by each, before he made his statement.

Owners can bet on their hunch and gut feeling

If an owner, or the senior official who also happens to be the son-in-law of the owner, is prepared to take that sort of risk and break the rules, then why not increase his chances of winning his bet by having a quiet word or two with his teams captain and/or one or two other players?

 

[Fact]

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Yes a massive distinction between being an owner on the share certificate, or being the senior most official as well as being the owners son-in-law.

It's obvious that Dhoni carefully checked the list of shareholders, and the number of shares held by each, before he made his statement.

If an owner, or the senior official who also happens to be the son-in-law of the owner, is prepared to take that sort of risk and break the rules, then why not increase his chances of winning his bet by having a quiet word or two with his teams captain and/or one or two other players?

If we are going to imagine then we can imagine many things, so no point in speculating unless you have any solid info otherwise you are getting into libelous stuff and they end up getting deleted on PP, rightfully so.

 

[Yossarian]

If we are going to imagine then we can imagine many things, so no point in speculating unless you have any solid info otherwise you are getting into libelous stuff and they end up getting deleted on PP, rightfully so.

What 'libelous stuff' are you on about?

I'm simply 'agreeing' with your 'impartial assessment' as to how being the owner on the share certificate is vastly different to being the senior most official who runs the company and manages it's day-to-day affairs, which includes regular interactions with the teams captain and the players, as well as being the son-in-law of the person named on the share certificate.

And how Dhoni would obviously know the difference between the two aforementioned roles, and hence the reason for his statement that 'Meiyappan was not the team owner'.

As for the last part of my post, there's nothing libellous about, it's just a hypothetical question is it not?

If an owner, or the senior official who also happens to be the son-in-law of the owner, is prepared to take that sort of risk and break the rules, then why not increase his chances of winning his bet by having a quiet word or two with his teams captain and/or one or two other players?

So do tell me, which part of my post is/was 'Libellous' and therefore deserves sanctions by the mods?

 

[JaDed]

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Yes a massive distinction between being an owner on the share certificate, or being the senior most official as well as being the owners son-in-law.

It's obvious that Dhoni carefully checked the list of shareholders, and the number of shares held by each, before he made his statement.

If an owner, or the senior official who also happens to be the son-in-law of the owner, is prepared to take that sort of risk and break the rules, then why not increase his chances of winning his bet by having a quiet word or two with his teams captain and/or one or two other players?

What kind of word or two with his team's captain can you give an example?

 

[Fact]

What 'libelous stuff' are you on about?


So do tell me, which part of my post is/was 'Libellous' and therefore deserves sanctions by the mods?

I never told you have posted libelous stuff, i said

"If we are going to imagine then we can imagine many things, so no point in speculating unless you have any solid info otherwise you are getting into libelous stuff and they end up getting deleted on PP, rightfully so."

 

[#GreenRoars]

CRICKET SOUTH AFRICA (CSA) has confirmed that former Proteas, Dolphins, Titans and Lions cricketer, Gulam Bodi, is the intermediary who has been charged under its Anti-Corruption Code.

Bodi has been charged with contriving to fix, or otherwise improperly influence aspects of the 2015 RAM SLAM T20 Challenge Series.

“Following our investigations and due process, we have reached a point where we can confirm that Mr Bodi is the intermediary who was charged by CSA in early December 2015 under the CSA Anti-Corruption Code,” said CSA Chief Executive, Haroon Lorgat.

“Mr Bodi is presently co-operating with the CSA Anti-Corruption officials. We now await his response to the charges and the matter will take its course in accordance with the process outlined in the Code.”

Pending receipt of his response, Bodi has been provisionally suspended under Article 4.7.1 of the Code. The provisional suspension means that Bodi may not be involved in any capacity in any match or any other kind of function, event or activity (other than authorized anti-corruption education or rehabilitation programmes) that is authorized, organized, sanctioned, recognized or supported in any way by CSA, the ICC, a National Cricket Federation or any member of a National Cricket Federation.

In accordance with the provisions of the Code, CSA will not comment publicly on the specific facts of this matter as the case is pending.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Shocking.

#cheat.

 

[par]

Ban these leagues and save cricket.

What if national players fix?

 

[chacha kashmiri]

He has to be very gullible to get sucked into cheating
Especially as South Africa gave this Indian a home

 

[Saj]

Bodi is and was quite friendly with some Pakistani players.

I hope there is no connection to Pakistani players around the corner.......

 

[street cricketer]

Never heard of this guy.