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Hardik Pandya vs Faheem Ashraf

Absolutely livid how he gets game after game with no performance.Not even once this guy won us a match.Average of 191 in 2019 with bowl and they say Amir is not taking wickets upfront.Get rid of him please
 
How has this thread reached 2000 posts? Just shows how bad Faheem is. This thread just gets bumped up everytime Faheem fails.
 
Pandy should sue anyone who use Fahim name in same sentence with his name. Never seen a more useless player even in Minnow teams. My blood literally boils. I would take anyone right now over him in the playing XI, because with fahim we are playing with 10 men every time.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Don't think "destroying" Bangladesh is something to be proud of. I swear India made 100 themselves in that match. It was just a very difficult wicket.
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No one is proud of BD bashing but still Binny has done it and Faheem hasn't.
 
You know it's bad when you can't even banter with padosis about faheem since they are trolling him more than you.
 
There's street cricketers better than this guy. Absolutely shocking cricketer.

The only reason he seems to be the apple of Arthur's eye is because he can hold a ball. He's not a good bowler either. Run of the mill type player, tbh.

It's between him or Shadab for that spot, I hope anyway.
 
How did Faheem receive this hype as a big hitter ? Score a freak fifty in a warmup where the boundary is 30m on one side and people go gaga.
 
I am proud of my contribution in this thread, but people who were backing Faheem should not feel ashamed because they were blinded by patriotism which is noble in its own right.

However, objectively speaking, it was obvious from the beginning the he is no match for Pandya.

Nevertheless, this should serve as a lesson for the future - 9/10 times, an Indian player will beat his Pakistani counterpart in a direct comparison.

Indian cricket has left Pakistan cricket well behind and they are consistently producing higher quality players in all disciples.
 
Mamoon said:
I am proud of my contribution in this thread, but people who were backing Faheem should not feel ashamed because they were blinded by patriotism which is noble in its own right.

However, objectively speaking, it was obvious from the beginning the he is no match for Pandya.

Nevertheless, this should serve as a lesson for the future - 9/10 times, an Indian player will beat his Pakistani counterpart in a direct comparison.

Indian cricket has left Pakistan cricket well behind and they are consistently producing higher quality players in all disciples.
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Ok Mr. India, we have been seeing your pro India and Pak hating commentary for quite some time now but thanks for your input!
 
Ertugrul_Bey said:
Ok Mr. India, we have been seeing your pro India and Pak hating commentary for quite some time now but thanks for your input!
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Call it pro-India and anti-Pakistan if you wish, but it is the truth and we must face the reality no matter how harsh.
 
people here seems to berate Pandya bowling way too much, yes he is still not good but i would take his bowling over Faheem any day. He is a thinking bowler & can bowl with speed around 145K. The problem is he is bowling with team which has Bumrah, KulCha & Shami/Bhuvi as other bowlers & he is the weakest link in the lineup so people goes after his bowling for a reason.
 
Stumper said:
people here seems to berate Pandya bowling way too much, yes he is still not good but i would take his bowling over Faheem any day. He is a thinking bowler & can bowl with speed around 145K. The problem is he is bowling with team which has Bumrah, KulCha & Shami/Bhuvi as other bowlers & he is the weakest link in the lineup so people goes after his bowling for a reason.
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He clocked 148 kph in the IPL. Problem is not enough matches under his belt since his injury. So still looks rusty. But he can bowl the heavy ball. Now he has improved his slower ball and wide yorker vastly. Still a bowler teams will target. But he has a knack of picking up wickets.
 
Stumper said:
people here seems to berate Pandya bowling way too much, yes he is still not good but i would take his bowling over Faheem any day. He is a thinking bowler & can bowl with speed around 145K. The problem is he is bowling with team which has Bumrah, KulCha & Shami/Bhuvi as other bowlers & he is the weakest link in the lineup so people goes after his bowling for a reason.
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This is where people on PP make just surface stat comparison by picking random players from both sides & prove how its going neck-and-neck! But the reality is that Pandya is the integral part of Indian team while Faheem or anyone will not even be in reckoning for selection! On the other hand Pandya would be spearhead of Pakistan team & probably even would be captaining the team by now! It is rather easier to guess that opposition teams won't have to take huge risks playing against Faheem on sluggish UAE teams where he plays the most as they need not have to set/chase any huge target! While India will be usually playing on 300+ pitches everywhere home & away usually, because its also about box-office pull through Indian matches! And the funny thing is guys like Rohit Sharma are mocked & their monstrous performance is undermined because they are playing on flat pitches but the same logic doesn't hold good for bowlers like Pandya & they are expected to be economical & pick lot of wickets!

I don't know what it bugs to accept that Indian Team doesn't care about individual stats anymore & they are concentrated more on team-results & what kind of players are needed for that! (For individual stats still we have Kohli & Bumrah who look so superior at the moment, but still they are scrutinized through some kind of complicated filters & yardsticks!) It is better to see & accept the reality, like how we accepted that Pakistan had far superior team & bowlers in the 90s which we couldn't even dreamed that time! For e.g., Venkatesh Prasad wouldn't have had a long career had he born in Pakistan! Times have changed... and might change in future... So give credit where its due in the present!
 
RamLakhan said:
This is where people on PP make just surface stat comparison by picking random players from both sides & prove how its going neck-and-neck! But the reality is that Pandya is the integral part of Indian team while Faheem or anyone will not even be in reckoning for selection! On the other hand Pandya would be spearhead of Pakistan team & probably even would be captaining the team by now!
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ZIADA HO GYA:dw
 
RamLakhan said:
This is where people on PP make just surface stat comparison by picking random players from both sides & prove how its going neck-and-neck! But the reality is that Pandya is the integral part of Indian team while Faheem or anyone will not even be in reckoning for selection! On the other hand Pandya would be spearhead of Pakistan team & probably even would be captaining the team by now! It is rather easier to guess that opposition teams won't have to take huge risks playing against Faheem on sluggish UAE teams where he plays the most as they need not have to set/chase any huge target! While India will be usually playing on 300+ pitches everywhere home & away usually, because its also about box-office pull through Indian matches! And the funny thing is guys like Rohit Sharma are mocked & their monstrous performance is undermined because they are playing on flat pitches but the same logic doesn't hold good for bowlers like Pandya & they are expected to be economical & pick lot of wickets!

I don't know what it bugs to accept that Indian Team doesn't care about individual stats anymore & they are concentrated more on team-results & what kind of players are needed for that! (For individual stats still we have Kohli & Bumrah who look so superior at the moment, but still they are scrutinized through some kind of complicated filters & yardsticks!) It is better to see & accept the reality, like how we accepted that Pakistan had far superior team & bowlers in the 90s which we couldn't even dreamed that time! For e.g., Venkatesh Prasad wouldn't have had a long career had he born in Pakistan! Times have changed... and might change in future... So give credit where its due in the present!
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Lol what a drama queen. So please tell us who is a bigger team player between MS Dhoni and Rishabh Pant currently? Who contributes more as a player? When you know that Indian Team doesn't care about individual stats anymore then why were you against MS Dhoni's inclusion in the World Cup? He can bat, can keep well, knows when to use DRS, can also help Kohli in captaining Indian team. What more do you want? :inti
 
RamLakhan said:
Same goes with these stupid comparisons! Better way would be build the team on whole based on respective strengths & weaknesses rather than these fragmented analysis!
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This is a forum. People will come up with weird comparisons here. Just like this one or Babar Azam vs KL Rahul. Better comparison would be between Hardik Pandya and Jason Holder. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Lol what a drama queen. So please tell us who is a bigger team player between MS Dhoni and Rishabh Pant currently? Who contributes more as a player? When you know that Indian Team doesn't care about individual stats anymore then why were you against MS Dhoni's inclusion in the World Cup? He can bat, can keep well, knows when to use DRS, can also help Kohli in captaining Indian team. What more do you want? :inti
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Now that you asked this question, see how the Dhoni-hate brigade will make this thread popular with a couple more pages!
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Lol what a drama queen. So please tell us who is a bigger team player between MS Dhoni and Rishabh Pant currently? Who contributes more as a player? When you know that Indian Team doesn't care about individual stats anymore then why were you against MS Dhoni's inclusion in the World Cup? He can bat, can keep well, knows when to use DRS, can also help Kohli in captaining Indian team. What more do you want? :inti
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Hold on my king :)) (for following me!) I have not being against MSD's inclusion of late! Kept that out of the equation 1.5 years back when he was not seeming like retiring and the whole team management wanted him & depended on him! My tempo was high on this regard after we lost our way in 2015 world cup and felt MSD's ideas are getting outdated! But our idiot Kohli did not want to go the next level like Ganguly & MSD himself did at their respective critical phases (I hope you know the story about your another favorite player in your username itself! He had several great achievements to show like Test Triumphs in Pakistan, Australia - we should have already won in Australia if not for umpires & if our bowling was little more stronger like today and that too against a strong Australian side! But Dhoni was brutal about him! What's your take on that?)

And the biggest blunder what to get Stupid Shastri to the important position! I have criticized even Kohli, but you have no eyes to see that! I can't criticize Pant much (for his inconsistency, lack of concentration), because he is very young and haven't developed enough maturity & experience currently, but I expect the senior pros who have already seen all the ups & downs to handle the situation better (Kohli, Dhoni, etc) But you are always on the toes to brutally criticize Pant, Pandya, etc, without giving any chance for them to grow even if they show so much promise (You expect them to perform consistently like Veterans)! The kind of building your team is random... remove Pandya bring in Shankar, call back Jadeja, etc! If they too fail look at someone else in Domestic (except IPL of course :) )

So I already made my mind to Plan-B (with Dhoni), but definitely did not want to go to worse plans by having DK, Rayudu, etc... I don't know what bothers if Dhoni & Pant can play together, if Dhoni & DK can (I guess Dhoni himself & his fans are concerned :) ) I still stick to my point that we could have developed a better team without Dhoni, but I must stay on ground & accept the reality because Indians are too emotional about their idols & achievers and that cannot be changed easily! (Australia won 3 straight world cups + 1 one after a gap with different captains and almost entirely different teams which does not mean that they were forced to change the team & they have average players!) So its the very minority percentage who think about clearer things! (Lets get back after we see how all these players perform in the world cup, we will have the better idea! Until then lets support the team :) )

And here I was not even thinking about you :) and Dhoni/Pant issue... I was talking about comparisons between individual players from two sides (one of them is your non-favorite :)) ) I am not sure how you got pinched here! As I said IPL & its fans always haunt you :)))
 
RamLakhan said:
Hold on my king :)) (for following me!) I have not being against MSD's inclusion of late! Kept that out of the equation 1.5 years back when he was not seeming like retiring and the whole team management wanted him & depended on him! My tempo was high on this regard after we lost our way in 2015 world cup and felt MSD's ideas are getting outdated! But our idiot Kohli did not want to go the next level like Ganguly & MSD himself did at their respective critical phases (I hope you know the story about your another favorite player in your username itself! He had several great achievements to show like Test Triumphs in Pakistan, Australia - we should have already won in Australia if not for umpires & if our bowling was little more stronger like today and that too against a strong Australian side! But Dhoni was brutal about him! What's your take on that?)

And the biggest blunder what to get Stupid Shastri to the important position! I have criticized even Kohli, but you have no eyes to see that! I can't criticize Pant much (for his inconsistency, lack of concentration), because he is very young and haven't developed enough maturity & experience currently, but I expect the senior pros who have already seen all the ups & downs to handle the situation better (Kohli, Dhoni, etc) But you are always on the toes to brutally criticize Pant, Pandya, etc, without giving any chance for them to grow even if they show so much promise (You expect them to perform consistently like Veterans)! The kind of building your team is random... remove Pandya bring in Shankar, call back Jadeja, etc! If they too fail look at someone else in Domestic (except IPL of course :) )

So I already made my mind to Plan-B (with Dhoni), but definitely did not want to go to worse plans by having DK, Rayudu, etc... I don't know what bothers if Dhoni & Pant can play together, if Dhoni & DK can (I guess Dhoni himself & his fans are concerned :) ) I still stick to my point that we could have developed a better team without Dhoni, but I must stay on ground & accept the reality because Indians are too emotional about their idols & achievers and that cannot be changed easily! (Australia won 3 straight world cups + 1 one after a gap with different captains and almost entirely different teams which does not mean that they were forced to change the team & they have average players!) So its the very minority percentage who think about clearer things! (Lets get back after we see how all these players perform in the world cup, we will have the better idea! Until then lets support the team :) )

And here I was not even thinking about you :) and Dhoni/Pant issue... I was talking about comparisons between individual players from two sides (one of them is your non-favorite :)) ) I am not sure how you got pinched here! As I said IPL & its fans always haunt you :)))
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I can say the same that I haunt all IPL fans here. You can see their responses how quickly they get personal whenever I criticise IPL, call me names, traitor etc while I keep maintaining my class and not go over the line. You were one of them too. Didn't you accuse me of stooping low to diss India? When all I was doing was to post my opinion about the topic?

Also its not about following you here. You are on a public forum. If you are going to post here expect people to quote and correct you. I like posters who are consistent with their views and not hypocrites. You were talking big in that post so I had to show you a mirror. :inti
 
I was ridiculed last year when I said Pandya would walk into Pakistan's team but it seems the usual suspects of the green tinted hype brigade have been humbled as usual. The same posters said told me they would always pick Faheem over Pandya. I wonder if they have the guts to stand by these absurd claims they were making last year.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I can say the same that I haunt all IPL fans here. You can see their responses how quickly they get personal whenever I criticise IPL, call me names, traitor etc while I keep maintaining my class and not go over the line. You were one of them too. Didn't you accuse me of stooping low to diss India? When all I was doing was to post my opinion about the topic?

Also its not about following you here. You are on a public forum. If you are going to post here expect people to quote and correct you. I like posters who are consistent with their views and not hypocrites. You were talking big in that post so I had to show you a mirror. :inti
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If performance of a player and need of a team varies from time to time then why should our views be consistent.
As of now Pant is performing well in tests but if he fails in the future then i"ll be against his selection and there's no hypocrisy in it.
All posters are not "know it all" guys like you,so obviously their views will change from time to time.
 
Honestly think Faheem isn't that bad. This England side would smash most bowling lineups. He is just not a thinking bowler! "aaj karke aaya" is a better allrounder.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
If performance of a player and need of a team varies from time to time then why should our views be consistent.
As of now Pant is performing well in tests but if he fails in the future then i"ll be against his selection and there's no hypocrisy in it.
All posters are not "know it all" guys like you,so obviously their views will change from time to time.
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I think 'know it all' guys are actually those who want everyone to agree with their opinions. I don't quote people like you and ask you to stop watching IPL or stop supporting Pant/Pandya. Show me one post where I tried to force my opinion on guys like you.

I just post my opinion about IPL and intolerant fans like you start getting personal or call me names for this. Most of the times you guys will try to convince me how my opinion is nothing but yours is the right one lol. You will do your best to prove that I am a keyboard warrior because I don't share your opinion.This shows who gets triggered by a simple opinion of a member. I sometimes feel sorry for you guys. :inti
 
The selectors are keeping a close eye on the injury to Kedar Jadhav and although they are willing to wait till the final possible hour before taking a call.
The selectors had nominated five standbys to cover all bases. Since Jadhav is a specialist batsman, the selectors are looking at replacing him with either Ambati Rayudu or Axar Patel, who like Jadhav can chip in with a few overs as well.
The other three standbys are Rishabh Pant, Ishant Sharma and Navdeep Saini. By naming Pant in India ‘A’ team’s ODI games against West Indies ‘A’ on Tuesday, the selectors have given a clear indication that for now they want the Delhi wicket-keeper to focus on Indian senior team’s West Indies tour which will follow immediately after the World Cup,” the source added.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I think 'know it all' guys are actually those who want everyone to agree with their opinions. I don't quote people like you and ask you to stop watching IPL or stop supporting Pant/Pandya. Show me one post where I tried to force my opinion on guys like you.

I just post my opinion about IPL and intolerant fans like you start getting personal or call me names for this. Most of the times you guys will try to convince me how my opinion is nothing but yours is the right one lol. You will do your best to prove that I am a keyboard warrior because I don't share your opinion.This shows who gets triggered by a simple opinion of a member. I sometimes feel sorry for you guys. :inti
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Good work,you are an expert dodger .
I did'nt even mention ipl in that post and yet you somehow managed to bring it in conversation..please repair your broken record,ipl ended a week ago.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Good work,you are an expert dodger .
I did'nt even mention ipl in that post and yet you somehow managed to bring it in conversation..please repair your broken record,ipl ended a week ago.
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Practice what you preach and stop bringing in Pant's test stats whenever we are discussing his future in LOI. You sound so desperate. :inti
 
Mp812 said:
The selectors are keeping a close eye on the injury to Kedar Jadhav and although they are willing to wait till the final possible hour before taking a call.
The selectors had nominated five standbys to cover all bases. Since Jadhav is a specialist batsman, the selectors are looking at replacing him with either Ambati Rayudu or Axar Patel, who like Jadhav can chip in with a few overs as well.
The other three standbys are Rishabh Pant, Ishant Sharma and Navdeep Saini. By naming Pant in India ‘A’ team’s ODI games against West Indies ‘A’ on Tuesday, the selectors have given a clear indication that for now they want the Delhi wicket-keeper to focus on Indian senior team’s West Indies tour which will follow immediately after the World Cup,” the source added.
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Should select Ishant Sharma as soon as possible. His experience of bowling in English conditions will come in handy. :inti
 
This has been a no contest for a while now, While faheem is marginally better as a bowler, there is no comparison when it comes to batting. I am not even sure Faheem is a all rounder.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Good work,you are an expert dodger .
I did'nt even mention ipl in that post and yet you somehow managed to bring it in conversation..please repair your broken record,ipl ended a week ago.
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It's called IPL PTSD. Certain individuals do not recover if IPL is success
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Practice what you preach and stop bringing in Pant's test stats whenever we are discussing his future in LOI. You sound so desperate. :inti
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Pant is a special player, he showed his prowess in T20s (your hate-term IPL) and then grabbed the opportunity in both hands when put inside the huge ocean (Tests), but seems like struggling to get into the ODI side for reasons we know (and you ignore :) )

He sure will be the next superstar mark my words! Most lovable character that everyone would wish him to be their brother, son or friend! (Kohli is too aggressive, Sachin is too diplomatic, Dhoni is too sedate...) But you are treating him (and Pandya) in the worst possible way and keep chanting anti-IPL mantra in your every breath!
 
RamLakhan said:
Pant is a special player, he showed his prowess in T20s (your hate-term IPL) and then grabbed the opportunity in both hands when put inside the huge ocean (Tests), but seems like struggling to get into the ODI side for reasons we know (and you ignore :) )

He sure will be the next superstar mark my words! Most lovable character that everyone would wish him to be their brother, son or friend! (Kohli is too aggressive, Sachin is too diplomatic, Dhoni is too sedate...) But you are treating him (and Pandya) in the worst possible way and keep chanting anti-IPL mantra in your every breath!
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Thats the problem. Most of you are looking for superstars not performers. Thing is fans like you first make these players larger than life figures and then abuse them when they get old. Perfect example is Dhoni.

You are just another worshipper of the rising sun. I have marked your words. Just mark my words too you guys will be the first ones to abuse Pant and Pandya too. I saw a trailer of that during that coffee controversy. If I was a blind Pandya hater I would have asked for his ban too but I didn't. I saw some insensitive souls asking for his ban for a thing which was not related to cricket. It clearly showed the IQ level of his fans.

You also blame Dhoni for playing politics in the team. How did he get so powerful? Who made him that powerful? Is your favorite term IPL behind it? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Thats the problem. Most of you are looking for superstars not performers. Thing is fans like you first make these players larger than life figures and then abuse them when they get old. Perfect example is Dhoni.

You are just another worshipper of the rising sun. I have marked your words. Just mark my words too you guys will be the first ones to abuse Pant and Pandya too. I saw a trailer of that during that coffee controversy. If I was a blind Pandya hater I would have asked for his ban too but I didn't. I saw some insensitive souls asking for his ban for a thing which was not related to cricket. It clearly showed the IQ level of his fans.

You also blame Dhoni for playing politics in the team. How did he get so powerful? Who made him that powerful? Is your favorite term IPL behind it? :inti
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Superstar making is not confined to just Indians isn't it? There are superstars even in USA, Australia and even Poor African countries! There are people who blindly follow the idols everywhere... It cannot be stopped! If you think I am one such I feel sorry if you saw this thing from me! It is the cheap political/business mindset which prevails only here! Yes they are superstars, but when the times comes there should be an end for them (and its not in the hands of common man's or hero worshippers! Normally these people wouldn't bother much if they see the end of their hero! They have their own poor life to worry about! It is the cheap politicians and business minded creeps who encash on this! ABD is also superstar in South Africa, but are his fans too bothered about his retirement? At the most there could be some discussions! Even West Indies people are emotional, but do they really have any hold on the internal board selection policies/mishaps? That's all these emotional people can do!) So it is actually a case of alerting the concerned people & pressuring them if some nuisance/stubbornness is going on when we criticize Dhoni or anyone!

But don't mix this with making superstars! A budding talent should be "absolutely" backed & supported in their struggling days! There is no second thought about it! You can't wait for a lottery/luck/fortune for these talents to miraculously become consistent performers as you say! The confidence - that they get if they are persisted, if they feel trusted! Your way of bashing & distrusting them takes them (or anyone) nowhere! Dhoni has achieved this much only because of this backing & trusting at the right time! Only thing is we don't do this more often with several players, usually such talents are gone wasted before its blossomed! Your way of treating would have ended Dhoni's career before it begun! And its the duty of the same people to put an end to it when its not needed! As I said repeatedly it is not required to support these veterans, they can handle themselves with proper responsibility, so they can be pressurized...

Let me tell you that myself (only me - not sure of others their opinion may differ) still think Dhoni is 70% not needed for this team for three main reasons: It is affecting the balance of the team because he is no more the batsman he was, It is affecting the captaincy of Kohli to be on his own & so that we can get an idea about it quickly, It is bringing bad policy into the team - all oldies/worn-out/fit-for-nothing guys are getting stacked in the squad including players & even coach/support-staff! So we have enough reasons to criticize just like you have reasons to criticize IPL... Similarly you may have your own reasons to back Dhoni and I have enough reasons to say why IPL is important for Indian Cricket :)
 
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Great fielder, very good striker, can bowl a bit. Works hard on his fitness and oozes star quality. Doesn't look ordinary to me, India have been looking for someone like him. I will be surprised if Fahim doesn't fade away like Anwar and Bhatti.
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You got this one right back in 2017. PPers rate Anwar Ali higher than Faheem Ashraf now.
 
Btw if Pandya suffers the same fate as Faheem Ashraf in bowling on these flat wickets, how do the Indians plan to include a third seamer into the lineup? Drop Chahal and include Jadeja?
 
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Btw if Pandya suffers the same fate as Faheem Ashraf in bowling on these flat wickets, how do the Indians plan to include a third seamer into the lineup? Drop Chahal and include Jadeja?
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Jadhav is fit. He is sharing the overs with Jadhav. Besides Pandya is not like Ashraf. HE can clock 145k, he extracts bounce and bowls a heavy ball. Now he has added wide yorker and very good slower ones. He is a brainy bowler. Only reason i don't want him to bowl 10 overs is he has back issues which he picked up in the Asia cup.
 
Faheem needs to work on his batting. His bowling is decent and good enough to be a 5th bowler. But his batting is like Mohammed Shami or even worse.

As a bowler alone, Faheem does not deserve a place in Pak team. Until Faheem improves his batting, he will never be a regular in Pak lineup.
 
There should be an official closure of a thread, otherwise it’ll go like the Malik thread. We need to close this thread with Faheem finally dropped of PAK squad. If Arthur is sacked after WC or not given a contract extension, I doubt how many games Faheem is going to play for PAK in future.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Jadhav is fit. He is sharing the overs with Jadhav. Besides Pandya is not like Ashraf. HE can clock 145k, he extracts bounce and bowls a heavy ball. Now he has added wide yorker and very good slower ones. He is a brainy bowler. Only reason i don't want him to bowl 10 overs is he has back issues which he picked up in the Asia cup.
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No offense but did not he was the same bowler whom rohit sharma was not giving 19 over in ipl final that too after decent first 2 overs .kurnal pandya the spinner was prefer our him it should tell how much captain trust him as bowler.

I know at the moment he is best you got but he is quite lucky to playing for top team like india due to his non existence bowling .Many team have worked out his batting and i don't think they will feed him spinners.his batting is suspicious to Express bowling +short pitch bowling .he will score one very good inning but will miss out on quite few .

Happy to be proven wrong but this is his pattern of international career so far.
 
saeed5646 said:
No offense but did not he was the same bowler whom rohit sharma was not giving 19 over in ipl final that too after decent first 2 overs .kurnal pandya the spinner was prefer our him it should tell how much captain trust him as bowler.

I know at the moment he is best you got but he is quite lucky to playing for top team like india due to his non existence bowling .Many team have worked out his batting and i don't think they will feed him spinners.his batting is suspicious to Express bowling +short pitch bowling .he will score one very good inning but will miss out on quite few .

Happy to be proven wrong but this is his pattern of international career so far.
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This post is filled with ignorance. Pandya cannot hit pacers? LOL

Also, Pandya is a 5th bowler. He is not a main bowler or strike bowler. The only reason why Rohit did not gamble with Pandya was because Rohit wanted to take the pace off the ball.
 
To be honest only one or two guy over hyped Faheem otherwise everyone could see he was never going to be a great.
 
troodon said:
This post is filled with ignorance. Pandya cannot hit pacers? LOL

Also, Pandya is a 5th bowler. He is not a main bowler or strike bowler. The only reason why Rohit did not gamble with Pandya was because Rohit wanted to take the pace off the ball.
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he is suspicious on express bowling who can bowl short pitch with pace what is wrong with my judgement .

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Some of our fans never learn. Trying to down play Pandya when he has proved them wrong already lol.
 
Hasan123 said:
Some of our fans never learn. Trying to down play Pandya when he has proved them wrong already lol.
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Next time have a guts and tag me directly.

I don.t like fahim ashraf neither he is any way near pandya . .l just pointing out his weakness and his international odi career so far.btw he is not top all rounder to begin with so i don.t why are you getting riled up
 
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Most of those short ball dismissals were in last overs of the innings when he was trying to go after everything..you need to be Express fast like rabada to bowl short at him to contain him..
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And i am saying exact same thing .i don't why are narrow minded people getting offended

Pandya may have set ipl on fire with batting but he is still long way to prove himself in international cricket
 
I am glad this thread is done and dusted for now

Cant see Faheem coming back in the immediate future
 
I feel like on the intro of The Simpsons, Bart Simpson should write "Hardik Pandya is better than Faheem Ashraf" multiple times on the chalkboard that has a different message each intro :)
 
To be very honest the way Pandya was hitting us in CT’17 final, Faheem could never dream of it.
 
Faheem can only dream of playing such innings against Cummins, Starc and Zampa! No point in keeping this thread open anymore! :))
 
Hardik has evolved into one of the top 3 hitters in the world over the last 6-12 months. Butler, Russell and Hardik are my top 3.
 
Hasan123 said:
But we were told that Pandya could not hit pace. He took Cummins apart.
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Two 4s and one 6 against Cummins in two separate overs. I dont think its taking somebody apart. He even edged the first ball which was dropped. Any player playing at international level can play pace bowler but its a known fact he is more threatening against spinners than against pace.
 
PerfectionPersonified said:
Pls close this thread, Fahim has been embarrassing. Pandya improved
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Even though I never compared Faheem with Pandya but I think this comparison has failed. Pandya in my opinion is a useless bowler, great fielder and inconsistent batsman who will have his days like today after getting dropped on a slow pitch. But he can beat Faheem on his fielding alone.

Either this thread should be closed or should be renamed to Pandya vs Holder. :inti
 
Titan24 said:
Two 4s and one 6 against Cummins in two separate overs. I dont think its taking somebody apart. He even edged the first ball which was dropped. Any player playing at international level can play pace bowler but its a known fact he is more threatening against spinners than against pace.
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He has improved against pace than what is made out. We just need to accept he is a good player and stop making excuses.
 
Hasan123 said:
He has improved against pace than what is made out. We just need to accept he is a good player and stop making excuses.
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I have no problem in accepting if anybody is a good player. Dhawan, Rohit, Dhoni and Kohli are outstanding players, Hardik hasnt shown enough at international level to change my opinion maybe he will with one of the innings in WC. However its just my opinion which can be influenced by consistent performances but not by 2,3 good strokes.

If his catch would not have been dropped, I am sure we wont be seeing much activity in the thread. Would that made him a poor cricketer than he is? I dont think so but same is the case with one off innings and couple of good strokes at international level.
 
Titan24 said:
I have no problem in accepting if anybody is a good player. Dhawan, Rohit, Dhoni and Kohli are outstanding players, Hardik hasnt shown enough at international level to change my opinion maybe he will with one of the innings in WC. However its just my opinion which can be influenced by consistent performances but not by 2,3 good strokes.

If his catch would not have been dropped, I am sure we wont be seeing much activity in the thread. Would that made him a poor cricketer than he is? I dont think so but same is the case with one off innings and couple of good strokes at international level.
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But posters said he could not hit pace. He has shown improvements in this regard and it shod be accepted.

He isn't in control of catches being dropped. That is Careys fault. He should be given credit for today's knock as he was under a lot of pressure.

Pandya has done more than 1 off innings and a few good strokes. Pakistan fans just need to accept he is a good player and here to stay.
 
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