Harry Potter

[12thMan]

a good film takes atleast 2-3 years to make

 

[Jayed]

a good film takes 2-3 years to make

wat bout catch me if u can?

ur perception of good must be a filmed jacked up with cgi effects stunts different locations.....

 

[Jayed]

50 MILLION dollar plus budget, and three years> theyll be bankrupt by 2

 

[12thMan]

ur perception of good must be a filmed jacked up with cgi effects stunts different locations.....

I think you just described Harry Potter

 

[Jayed]

I think you just described Harry Potter

nope.

harry potter is filmed in: one location mostly.
in pre built castles


all you need is make up, clothes a good computer and bam.

lord of the rings takes it to a new scale.

 

[12thMan]

denial

 

[JammydodgA]

They should of just did what lord of the rings did and make them all at the same time.

then they wouldn't have aged much at all

 

[Medic]

Anyone got the book?

 

[Obeid]

nope.
the technique is start filimg the day after the release. and besides, 1 year is good damn long time to make a film provided people make films in 60 days like catch me if u can and that was brilliant

Dude Catch me If you can is a childs movie....nothing near brilliant....

 

[Punter]

then they wouldn't have aged much at all

I meant like making Deathly hallows and Half blood prince at the same time.

 

[Easa]

Has anyone gotten the book yet? I am almost on my way, gonna buy the book, then catch the movie with a few friends, and then go home and read the book. I officially declare Satuarday the 21st of July as official Harry Potter appreciation!

 

[Jayed]

Dude Catch me If you can is a childs movie....nothing near brilliant....

If Catch me If you Can isn't brilliant and it is a 'childs movie' then what is brilliant, the Excorcist?

 

[Jayed]

Has anyone gotten the book yet? I am almost on my way, gonna buy the book, then catch the movie with a few friends, and then go home and read the book. I officially declare Satuarday the 21st of July as official Harry Potter appreciation!

dude mellow out man......you're taking this harry potter thing tooo overboard.....

 

[Easa]

dude mellow out man......you're taking this harry potter thing tooo overboard.....

Why the hell do you care? Is Harry Potter also overrated along with Pele?

By the way, I am not getting the book until Tuesday. I might just slit my wrists, haha.

 

[pakistani_banda]

Why the hell do you care? Is Harry Potter also overrated along with Pele?

By the way, I am not getting the book until Tuesday. I might just slit my wrists, haha.

im getting my book tommorow inshAllah, hope fully. the shop where i ordered my didnt recieve the books, and is supposed to recieve them today at 11pm pakistan time, but the shop closes at 10 pm pakistan time, so my only hope of getting the book is to get it at 10 am when teh shop opens.

also i can not get the book from some other shop as my parents dont want the Rs 500 that was paid in advance to be wasted.

 

[Hari Sombar]

Just got my book today morning for 5 quid !

I'm on page 71 so far ...

 

[Medic]

I bought mine today from Woolworths.

Havent started yet...

 

[Hari Sombar]

Lets see who finishes first

 

[iZeeshan]

Haven't gotten it yet, or I assure you I would have been first.

 

[Hari Sombar]

Haven't gotten it yet, or I assure you I would have been first.

I could be first .... I read 50-100 pages a day

Some people read it in one day !

 

[Medic]

Haven't gotten it yet, or I assure you I would have been first.

 

[Easa]

Just wondering, how much does it cost in Pakistan? In Kuwait, it costs between 10-12 KD which is around 20-22 pounds or 2000 rupees.

 

[Easa]

Not bragging or anything, but I read way above my age. I will probably read the book in about 4/5 hours, no joke. Just have the gift of being able to read very fast and understanding i guess.

 

[Medic]

Just wondering, how much does it cost in Pakistan? In Kuwait, it costs between 10-12 KD which is around 20-22 pounds or 2000 rupees.

20-22?

I got it for 8 pounds

 

[Oxy]

I'll read it if someone pays me to....

 

[Hari Sombar]

I'll read it if someone pays me to....

lol, J.K R will ....

What am I talking about ... she's already a millionaire

 

[lahori]

Havent read it.

Havent watched it.

Dont see the fuss behind it.

Seems like a very successful way of fleecing youngsters/parent for their cash.

And then you have all these weirdos (kids and parents) dressed up as Harry POtter queing up at midnight for the book!

Oxy think of it as the English version of the Ambar Naag Maria series And yes I havent watched or read it either and probably never will.

 

[iZeeshan]

Not bragging or anything, but I read way above my age. I will probably read the book in about 4/5 hours, no joke. Just have the gift of being able to read very fast and understanding i guess.

Not bragging or anything, but I must say that I have the same talent.

 

[qaisar]

I won't read it even if given for free.

 

[Jayed]

Lol Easa, I am a Harry Potter fan too, but ppl in foreign countries overhype Potter like hell. We in UK apart from a select band of nerds think of hp as two wows, nothing more.....

youre the one overrating potter....

 

[Easa]

20-22?

I got it for 8 pounds

Yup, its very expensive.

 

[Easa]

Lol Easa, I am a Harry Potter fan too, but ppl in foreign countries overhype Potter like hell. We in UK apart from a select band of nerds think of hp as two wows, nothing more.....

youre the one overrating potter....

Are you kidding me? The UK are going absolutely mental about it, they give a hell of a lot more than two wows. Don't kid yourself, switch on the TV and you'll see what I'm talking about..

 

[Medic]

Are you kidding me? The UK are going absolutely mental about it, they give a hell of a lot more than two wows. Don't kid yourself, switch on the TV and you'll see what I'm talking about..

select band of nerds

There the ones who will get on TV. Its nit like a normal Harry Potter will get TV time.

 

[Easa]

Yes I know, but England is also obviously caught up in Harry Potter mania. Its not like you Britishers are all cool about it and the rest of the world is going nuts

 

[iZeeshan]

I have to wait till Monday to read

 

[TalhaSyed]

read 100/607 pages so far >..as so far i think its been prety good (Y)

 

[iZeeshan]

All I want to say is that, PLEASE, do NOT discuss the ending in this thread UNTIL Thursday. NONE. Zip. Zilch. After that, we can all discuss how Voldemort dies...

 

[JammydodgA]

I'm going to have to avoid this thread for a while, I have to wait until after my exams to read the book...

That's the idea anyway

 

[12thMan]

20-22?

I got it for 8 pounds

well he fills his car tank for probably 3 pounds and that is something people do 2-5 times a month

 

[Daoud]

My cousin already told me what happens so Im very tempted to reveal that information here

 

[Jayed]

My cousin already told me what happens so Im very tempted to reveal that information here

please i implore you do not...

 

[iZeeshan]

My cousin already told me what happens so Im very tempted to reveal that information here

you should be relieved of your mod duties if you do so, however oxy might want you to get a promotion

 

[Easa]

Well got my hands on a copy, and just finished reading it. The book is deep, everything fits and some of my theories were correct. Don't want to spoil it though.

 

[Solid Snake]

Well got my hands on a copy, and just finished reading it. The book is deep, everything fits and some of my theories were correct. Don't want to spoil it though.

Just finished too, Easa. I must admit, I was floored by it. Thought it was amazing, won't try and spoil any of it, but lets just say the pensieve bit was intense! Your thoughts?

 

[Jayed]

You guys aren't understanding it.

If you were REAL HP fans, you would buy the book, and read it slowly, cherishing it and counting a few blessings, as its the last time EVER that youll be opening a HP book new and afresh and with that glistening feeling...you guys were in such a hurry to read it that you couldnt relish the last ever instalment

 

[The_Cricket_Devil]

Just finished it today on the flight back from london to toronto. Absolutely beautiful piece of literature. I relished every moment of it and won't spoil it for the rest. Read it and be amazed at the supreme way in which Rowling has tied up basically everything proving once and for all her mastery.

 

[Solid Snake]

I understand what you mean Jayed- and how I wish I could have done exactly that!

This book like Cricket Devil said is just brilliant, so different to the others in that it is fast paced and thrilling from the word go. There are so few moments when something isn't going on, as a result you REALLY can't put it down! I'm not that upset however, not as much as I thought I would be. Reading the books since I was 10, this was a great way to end an amazing series.

 

[Hari Sombar]

Up to page 250

 

[Easa]

Yaar, Solid Snake, I really want to discuss the book but I really don't want to spoil it for the others. Perhaps, a little later.. because there was a lot of great parts and great moments.

'NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****'

 

[Hari Sombar]

Yaar, Solid Snake, I really want to discuss the book but I really don't want to spoil it for the others. Perhaps, a little later.. because there was a lot of great parts and great moments.

'NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****'

My sister is so annoying, she reads two words from the last page while Im eating and says " Albus Severus " or something like that

I should finish by the weekend

 

[Easa]

My sister is so annoying, she reads two words from the last page while Im eating and says " Albus Severus " or something like that

I should finish by the weekend

Oh yeah, Albus Severus, that was a very sentimental part.

 

[m_sohail]

Er, why not start another thread titled "DH Spoilers" or something?

You'd be free to discuss the book there, but more importantly you'd be ticking off a few people, including Oxy. That alone has to be worth it...

 

[m_sohail]

Oh yeah, Albus Severus, that was a very sentimental part.

Don't tell me you cried...

 

[Easa]

Don't tell me you cried...

What the hell? Why would I cry?

 

[Daoud]

Don't tell me you cried...

Easa's an emo

Someone big dies and Harry gets married

 

[Easa]

Created a new thread for DH!

 

[Sean]

I have the whole book on pdf. Will I read it? No. Because I haven't read the first 6 books and this was only 1.4mb.

 

[BAADSHAH]

I have the whole book on pdf. Will I read it? No. Because I haven't read the first 6 books and this was only 1.4mb.

 

[Hari Sombar]

Now up to pg 450

 

[pakistani_banda]

im taking my time to read teh bokk.. and man i love it

 

[iZeeshan]

Man, I have had the book for like 3 days, but haven't found time to read it...I am dying to finish it so I can discuss! UGH!

 

[Hari Sombar]

Finished the book yesterday with a record 200 pages in a day read

 

[iZeeshan]

I love this book! ADORE it! Regardless of the ending! I just love it! LOVE IT!

At "The Wedding" right now...

 

[Hari Sombar]

I love this book! ADORE it! Regardless of the ending! I just love it! LOVE IT!

At "The Wedding" right now...

If you love it now, wait till you get till the end

 

[iZeeshan]

Oh man, I just read something about Albus Serverus in this thread DAMMIT

 

[MCMLXXXII]

The book is certainly the best of them all.

 

[Hari Sombar]

Oh man, I just read something about Albus Serverus in this thread DAMMIT

Its nothing important, don't worry

 

[Easa]

Its nothing important, don't worry

It is kinda cool though, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Hari Sombar]

It is kinda cool though, wouldn't you agree?

sure

 

[Taurus]

I actually thought the last book was rather poor. It's rather like a wizarding road trip without much direction, admittedly with peaks and troughs, but the former fewer and further between. I've been a tremendous fan of Harry Potter all the way through, but I felt this last one lacked direction until the end, where everything was unravelled too quickly without the solemn voice of reason. Admittedly, it was a pleasant read because Rowling has such a loveable, real style that serves to create a believable environment and genuine characters. I feel that has always been where her literary strengths lie as opposed to being a genius a la JRR Tolkien or Philip K Dick.

My particular grievances with the last book:

- The manner of "the final death". Bordering on deus ex machina in it's manner, unfortunately. Obviously, I'll find it difficult to discuss further without going into detail about the story. Suffice to say I feel that the person who dies is far too powerful for the murderer to ever contend with.

- The Jesus Moment. Yes, the death and the rebirth. Why must every legendary hero die and be reborn after the most famous of men among Westerners? Is it really necessary? Am I reading too deeply into this incident? To me, it was just like Aslan in "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe", though without the class.

Anyway, most of my theories were proven to be correct. I suspected we hadn't seen the last of Snape. He will certainly go down as one of the best indeterminite characters ever. There were some nice twists and turns, and all the characters had the noticeable foibles and there were sparks of brilliance undoutedly. I just felt it lacked the perfection of "The Prisoner of Azkaban" and "The Goblet of Fire."

 

[TM Riddle]

So any Harry potter fans here ??
I admit I m a potterhead and just love the series..don't like movies though..heard that JK Rowling is planning to write a HP encyclopedia..that would be great..my favorite character from the series is the dark Lord himself, He who must not be named..How about starting a PP Harry potter fan club.?

 

[James]

I quite like the whole thing having been kinda brought up around it. In comparison to The Lord of the Rings I find it less original and grandiose, but nonetheless more coherent and enjoyable. Tolkein broke new ground in the fantasy genre and was intellectual enough to come up with new worlds and languages, but unfortunately his themes are one-dimensional and his prose is awful, which is why he has never been studied within academia. Meanwhile Potter is full of cultural reference, Christian allegory and Holocaust imagery so has already been taken more seriously.

 

[Saqs]

I quite like the whole thing having been kinda brought up around it. In comparison to The Lord of the Rings I find it less original and grandiose, but nonetheless more coherent and enjoyable. Tolkein broke new ground in the fantasy genre and was intellectual enough to come up with new worlds and languages, but unfortunately his themes are one-dimensional and his prose is awful, which is why he has never been studied within academia. Meanwhile Potter is full of cultural reference, Christian allegory and Holocaust imagery so has already been taken more seriously.

Potter has been taken more seriously than LOTR? Are you sure about that?

Also LOTR has Christian allegory throughout it if one wants to read it that way albeit a lot less subtle than CS Lewis.

The only serious theme in Potter I can think of that is explored in any sort of depth is the race issue.

Yes Potter was enjoyable. But LOTR was unforgettable. I enjoyed every minute detail in that.

 

[TM Riddle]

Lotr was bit boring tbh...its movies are much better..

 

[Kwremb]

Potter vs LOTR

 

[James]

Potter has been taken more seriously than LOTR? Are you sure about that?

Also LOTR has Christian allegory throughout it if one wants to read it that way albeit a lot less subtle than CS Lewis.

The only serious theme in Potter I can think of that is explored in any sort of depth is the race issue.

Yes Potter was enjoyable. But LOTR was unforgettable. I enjoyed every minute detail in that.

Potter vs LOTR

Honestly, you can laugh all you like. In academia, yes, this is a fact - and there is an existing debate around it at much higher levels than our discussions here.

Universities have never taken LotR seriously because it is a fantasy universe, and stylistically Tolkein is too self-indulgent and amateurish to create sympathy and allegory. Do not confuse creativity with writing ability. I am glad to see a reference to CS Lewis who is both a better writer and more relevant.

This is what literary study entails: referencing and dramatising real-life issues through what is ostensibly fiction. Potter achieves this because Rowling is more in touch with race, religion, culture and history. Also she is clever in her realisation that fantasy struggles to achieve real depth, whereas her avenue of magic realism offers genuine scope. Depending on how you read it, Potter is a coming-of-age tale, a disentanglement of tense racial issues, an allegory of Christ, various forms of resurrection, and good and evil, and a daring representation of the Holocaust.

 

[Kwremb]

I wasn't laughing at the comparison but like here we go again another HP vs LOTR debate

FTR I agree with you, LOTR universe is certainly more creative, in depth and more spiritualistic imo. However, Rowling is certainly a better writer imo, you always feel in the moment when reading HP, Tolkien didn't have the ability to immerse the reader with his characters because their treatment was sort of spiritual especially with the maiar, valar classifications. But LOTR does have quite a few biblical allegories, I disagree with you on that part.

 

[James]

Rowling at the moment is suffering from what is the worst kind of literary snobbery, where people seem reluctant to study modern texts and are then criticised in the Daily Mail when they do so. Given time, her stronger points will be appreciated more widely.

Then again I can see why popular writers are frowned upon when genuine rubbish like Dan Brown and Fifty Shades of Grey does the rounds.

 

[TM Riddle]

Among the books I like goblet of fire the most ..first time wizarding world was explored that much ..triwizard tournament, return of Voldemort..it had everything in it!

 

[James]

The Potterheads seem to rate Prisoner of Azkaban the highest. I'm more of a casual fan of fantasy and magic realism than an aficionado though. I really like The Chamber of Secrets.