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Has anyone dominated Dale Steyn like young Babar Azam?

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Nikhil_cric

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What a phenomenal talent this guy is. Smacked something like 10 boundaries last match. And again, looks at ease against Steyn in this match. Even Warner hasn't dominated him like this. Most talented young batsman against pace :bow: Whaddaplaya!
 
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That's the most aesthetic knock I have seen from a Pakistani Test Batsman post Umar Akmal's quality debut Test ton 9 years ago.


Bond was bowling quality stuff there.


Babar played classical shots and on merit. He is sheer quality in terms of ability. I have seen him pull Milne operating at 150 + between midwicket & mid on.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
What a phenomenal talent this guy is. Smacked something like 10 boundaries last match. And again, looks at ease against Steyn in this match. Even Warner hasn't dominated him like this. Most talented young batsman against pace :bow: Whaddaplaya!
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The one that immediately springs to mind is that KP ton in the 2012 series think at Manchester, he pummelled the SA attack to all corners. Sure there must be others too.
 
This current Steyn is not as good as Steyn we used to know but Baber has made a good statement with his batting in this series. Serirs like these test your true potential.
 
Babar and Shan look to be on a different planet. Best players of pace in our side. Babar is dominating all Saffer bowlers..
 
Steyn is a different bowler now. But then again, Babar too is a young player with not a lot of experience under his belt.
 
Bobby is the next superstar of Pakistani cricket and the way he has made the mockery of both Steyn and Olivier in this series has been delectable to watch but at the same time it's also true that this is not the same Steyn anymore who used to run through the batting sides for fun.
He has been on downhill for quite some time now and the sharpness in bowling has reduced quite a bit but even then dominating an ATG like him in such fashion when other batsmen are falling like a peck of cards isn't easy at all and therefore Bobby deserves all the praise that comes his way.
 
Shandarchowka said:
Babar and Shan look to be on a different planet. Best players of pace in our side. Babar is dominating all Saffer bowlers..
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Shan is a hack and would be forgotten soon. Bobby otoh is a special player and would spearhead Pakistan's batting in the coming years.
 
Steyn may not be the Steyn of old but even this 35.5 year old Steyh is running in at hitting 145 kph in his 15th over while rabada and olivier look tired. A fantastic contest between the greatest fast bowler of yesteryear and the brightest batting talent today. This is the reverse of sachin vs steyn 8 years ago. One for the ages!
 
TM Riddle said:
Shan is a hack and would be forgotten soon. Bobby otoh is a special player and would spearhead Pakistan's batting in the coming years.
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Have you actually watch Shan bat today or is this some sort of troll attempt (poor one)?
 
MenInG said:
Have you actually watch Shan bat today or is this some sort of troll attempt (poor one)?
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I have and tbh he didn't impress me as such.
And why would I troll when in the same post I have praised Babar Azam?
 
Kevin Petersen's 149 at Edgbaston in 2012 against Steyn. Never seen Steyn dominated like that.
 
Hitman said:
Steyn is a different bowler now. But then again, Babar too is a young player with not a lot of experience under his belt.
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Steyn is still bowling 145 consistently. So how is he different?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
What a phenomenal talent this guy is. Smacked something like 10 boundaries last match. And again, looks at ease against Steyn in this match. Even Warner hasn't dominated him like this. Most talented young batsman against pace :bow: Whaddaplaya!
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AB de Villiers in IPL 2014.
 
Madplayer said:
Steyn is still bowling 145 consistently. So how is he different?
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Pace isn't everything. The sharpness in his bowling has gone. He isn't the same bowler he used to be when he decimated Pakistan 5 years ago and lost his X factor albeit still threatening.
Still props to Bobby though. He's quite young and dominating Dale Steyn is never easy even when he's at twilight of his career.
 
Ab Fan said:
AB de Villiers in IPL 2014.
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Lol at t20. Even the most fearsome bowlers can be reduced to laughing stock in that joke format.

I would say KP at Headingley 2012 like others have said, and Sehwag at times in India have shown attacking dominance against Steyn that too at his peak.
 
TM Riddle said:
I have and tbh he didn't impress me as such.
And why would I troll when in the same post I have praised Babar Azam?
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You are such a hypocrite. Yesterday you were literally crying when I was calling Rishabh Pant a tullaybaaz. And now you yourself are calling Shan Masood a hack. Care to explain what the word hack means in urdu/hindi/rajasthani? :murali

Now can you please explain why didn't he impress you much?

Also your opinion means jack as far as Shan Masood is concerned too. How is that now? :inti
 
Missed his half century...its great to see him scoring runs again....babar is our best bat and our batting should be revolve around him in all three formats.
 
tbh all great bowlers get dominated time to time but still steyn was the difference between both teams. He bowled with lot of steam when Pak was looking to gain momentum.

Anyways tough series like these should be used to separate men from boys. Imo these Pakistani players have heart to face challenge, they should be given long run

Babar
Shaheen Afridi
Asad
Shan Masood
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are such a hypocrite. Yesterday you were literally crying when I was calling Rishabh Pant a tullaybaaz. And now you yourself are calling Shan Masood a hack. Care to explain what the word hack means in urdu/hindi/rajasthani? :murali

Now can you please explain why didn't he impress you much?

Also your opinion means jack as far as Shan Masood is concerned too. How is that now? :inti
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Just sour grapes from some Indians... leave it bhai
 
He has done well against Stey ,but there is obviously a difference, Steyn of older years is somewhat equivalent to Rabadda now(Steyn was obviously better) .

Babar is young and he is the only one who looks like a batsman in Pak's team ,most of us said that before too when many Pak posters wanted him dropped lol.
 
Selfish player, for me Abbas 10 is above whatever Babar Azam scored. Abbas came on the crease when team was facing innings defeat. Azam exposed Abbas to Steyn thrice so that he can be dismissed before him, still Abbas survived and played really well for his team. I knew Babar Azam will be the one who'll get out and that is what happened.

For me Abbas and Shan are the players of the day.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are such a hypocrite. Yesterday you were literally crying when I was calling Rishabh Pant a tullaybaaz. And now you yourself are calling Shan Masood a hack. Care to explain what the word hack means in urdu/hindi/rajasthani? :murali

Now can you please explain why didn't he impress you much?

Also your opinion means jack as far as Shan Masood is concerned too. How is that now? :inti
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You are right. I shouldn't have called him a hack having seen so little of him.
My apologies.
 
TM Riddle said:
I have and tbh he didn't impress me as such.
And why would I troll when in the same post I have praised Babar Azam?
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He's looked the most comfortable over the two test matches against this quality bowling attack.
 
I have never seen a batsman, in his early twenties, dominate Steyn like this. Admittedly Steyn is not at his best but then again, neither is Babar.
 
Cuts_and_cuts_hard said:
Lol at t20. Even the most fearsome bowlers can be reduced to laughing stock in that joke format.

I would say KP at Headingley 2012 like others have said, and Sehwag at times in India have shown attacking dominance against Steyn that too at his peak.
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There should be a 5-day premier League for that as well.
 
Those who saw the match will know Steyn was bowling very well. If he was not at his best then he was at least very close. Babar was brilliant against him but the thread is really exaggerated. Maybe if you add the qualifier of a young batsman on his first tour.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
What a phenomenal talent this guy is. Smacked something like 10 boundaries last match. And again, looks at ease against Steyn in this match. Even Warner hasn't dominated him like this. Most talented young batsman against pace :bow: Whaddaplaya!
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Yes Tendulkar and that too in SA.
 
Steyn is most potent when he gets his outswing going. Otherwise he is hittable. Many have done in several formats on true wickets. Hitting Steyn is no big deal when he bowls ramrod straight as Afridi proved today. He lost the ODI world cup semi because of his rubbish bowling.
 
It's not necessary for everything to be black and white.

Yes, Babar played well or even really well, but hitting boundaries doesn't meant he has dominated, especially if it's in just 2 innings.

Not taking anything away from Babar, but it would be innings of much higher quality if he had dominated Rabada that way.


On a sidenote, haven't watched either of the innings. But, credit to Babar for finding his feet at the test level.
 
Babar should play with a similar mindset in every innings. He is better than he thinks.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
What a phenomenal talent this guy is. Smacked something like 10 boundaries last match. And again, looks at ease against Steyn in this match. Even Warner hasn't dominated him like this. Most talented young batsman against pace :bow: Whaddaplaya!
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Steyn fast his prime
 
Babar played well and that shouldn't be taken away from him. Dominating Steyn isn't easy. But this isn't the same Steyn and that's the honest truth. I am a Babar fan and someone who backed him to come good in tests but Steyn isn't the same bowler he was once was.
 
How is Steyn not the same? Because he is 35? Forget the number. He is bowling as well (and fast) as ever even without any conventional or reverse swing available in either of the two tests. Outbowled the no.1 Test bowler in this game. On topic, the real test will come with a hard swinging ball. KP was far more severe in 2012...
 
Dead Ball said:
Kevin Petersen's 149 at Edgbaston in 2012 against Steyn. Never seen Steyn dominated like that.
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Cuts_and_cuts_hard said:
Lol at t20. Even the most fearsome bowlers can be reduced to laughing stock in that joke format.

I would say KP at Headingley 2012 like others have said, and Sehwag at times in India have shown attacking dominance against Steyn that too at his peak.
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Outswinger said:
How is Steyn not the same? Because he is 35? Forget the number. He is bowling as well (and fast) as ever even without any conventional or reverse swing available in either of the two tests. Outbowled the no.1 Test bowler in this game. On topic, the real test will come with a hard swinging ball. KP was far more severe in 2012...
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Please don't mention that KP knock. Steyn was down on pace in that series and the Pommies were so terrified of the Saffer attack that they dished out ultra flat decks where everyone was scoring runs for fun. Please check the averages of Swing King Jimmeh in that series and you will know what im talking about.

Steyn has been bowling at full tilt this series and the pitches are anything but flat. KP would not even fluke a 30 against Steyn in these conditions.
 
Khwaja78 said:
Selfish player, for me Abbas 10 is above whatever Babar Azam scored. Abbas came on the crease when team was facing innings defeat. Azam exposed Abbas to Steyn thrice so that he can be dismissed before him, still Abbas survived and played really well for his team. I knew Babar Azam will be the one who'll get out and that is what happened.

For me Abbas and Shan are the players of the day.
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Top post that most people here will not grasp. Babar is a fantastic player; our future anchor no doubt but his selfish tendencies i.e. constantly exposing the tail by taking singles off the first or second ball needs to be curbed. This is not the first test in which it has happened. Frankly shocked why Mickey and co have not rectified the issue of exposing the tail - he only stopped doing this after Amir and Yasir's wickets fell..

Abbas showed true grit, certainly a team player. You need players like that in the trenches when facing heavy artillery from the opposition. This is why I admire players like Kohli who stand up, have the talent and take on the responsibility of shouldering an innings. I hope young Babar can emulate that aspect but I doubt he has the role models within the Pak team/management who can develop that.
 
Steyn isnt at his peak , he was still bowling well but the swing and the venom of steyn in his peak days is no longer here.
 
Steyn may not be bowling near 150 but he is still bowling over 140 and saying he has lost his touch because he's 35 is totally wrong. If anything, it's quite remarkable that he is able to bowl this fast at this age and equally impressive on Babar's part regarding the way he has played Steyn in this series.
 
Dead Ball said:
Kevin Petersen's 149 at Edgbaston in 2012 against Steyn. Never seen Steyn dominated like that.
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Cuts_and_cuts_hard said:
Lol at t20. Even the most fearsome bowlers can be reduced to laughing stock in that joke format.

I would say KP at Headingley 2012 like others have said, and Sehwag at times in India have shown attacking dominance against Steyn that too at his peak.
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Chief Destroyer said:
He's Kohli's successor, brother [MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION].
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And a worthy successor he will be too. The Steyn Slayer Bobby!
 
Khwaja78 said:
Selfish player, for me Abbas 10 is above whatever Babar Azam scored. Abbas came on the crease when team was facing innings defeat. Azam exposed Abbas to Steyn thrice so that he can be dismissed before him, still Abbas survived and played really well for his team. I knew Babar Azam will be the one who'll get out and that is what happened.

For me Abbas and Shan are the players of the day.
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Babar Azam farms the strike and he is called selfish, gives the strike away and he’s called selfish
He simply can’t win
 
Well since no one Mentioned Sachin Tendulkar's 146 at Cape Town in 2010/11, let me make that customary post. It was his 51st and last test hundred and was a stunning innings, and by Steyn's own admission, it was his toughest battle ever!
 
Must there be hyperbole at every interval. He had a good innings, nothing more.

Unless someone analyzed every innings against Steyn, I think we should just not discuss.
 
I honestly can’t remember the last time I saw such a fantastic batting display from a Pakistani batsman. His judgement of length was impeccable got into position early, played all around the wicket and was good against every bowler not just steyn.

The only flaw was he should have farmed the strike earlier with Yasir batting and knocked some sense into him but I do remember he had turned his back to Yasir a few times to discourage any frantic running.
 
Not taking anything from Babar, but this isn't even 50% of peak Steyn. In my eyes, peak-Steyn is up there with Marshall as the GOAT fast-bowler. This version, gets outbowled by Rabada and Olivier.

However, this was an amazing amazing display from Babar. Rare to see from a Pakistani batsman. The most impressive dismantling on a peak-bowler in recent years was Rahane taking apart Johnson in 2014.
 
By widespread PP logic, this Babar innings should be categorized as a useless average boosting innings since it came in a losing cause. Just like how Tendulkar's innings were selfish and useless whenever they came in a losing cause.
 
charlie007 said:
By widespread PP logic, this Babar innings should be categorized as a useless average boosting innings since it came in a losing cause. Just like how Tendulkar's innings were selfish and useless whenever they came in a losing cause.
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Babar is young and not experienced like Asad. And Babar has consistently shown fight in last 1 year. Not like shafiq once in a blue moon.
 
Madplayer said:
Babar is young and not experienced like Asad. And Babar has consistently shown fight in last 1 year. Not like shafiq once in a blue moon.
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Exactly. But one thing i have against Babar is that he is not cashing in on his good form. I mean not scoring big. Maybe move up the order.
 
Wow.

Just wow.

Bobby Azam has buried the legend of Dale Steyn. :bow:
 
32.5
4
Steyn to Babar Azam, FOUR runs, Steyn now sprays it on the pads of Babar, he picks it from there and whips it away to the right of the leg umpire
32.4
4
Steyn to Babar Azam, FOUR runs, there goes Babar. Back of a length and outside off, Babar rises on top of it and punches it beautifully through


34.4
4
Steyn to Babar Azam, FOUR runs, Whoa, how good was that? Steyn has a wry smile on his face. That was how good it was. Just short of a good length and outside off, Babar leans back, gets on top of it and punches it away square through point. Rifled away to the boundary
34.3
0
Steyn to Babar Azam, no run, good length and bends away outside off, much closer to off, Babar pulls his bat out of the way
34.2
4
Steyn to Babar Azam, FOUR runs, short and outside off, Babar wasn't in total control of it, I think, but still punches it away between point and gully
34.1
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Steyn to Babar Azam, FOUR runs, Babar continues to attack Steyn. Short, wide outside off, Babar latches onto the extra width and smears it away behind point. Bam!
 
iRfaN_LA said:
Steyn actually bowled really well the whole morning but Babar still dominated him.
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Steyn has bowled well in entire series clocking 140-147 regularly. Everybody has struggled against him except Babar and to some extent Shan.
 
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