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Has Greg Chappell been under rated and where does he rank amongst greats?

Harsh Thakor

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After Don Bradman Greg Chappell was the most complete of All Australian batsmen.No Australian after the Don posessed every component that comprised the perfect batsmen as much as Greg Chappell.Gregs batting blended the elegance of a ballad dancer with the technical skill of a surgeon,the inventiveness of a musical composer and the power of a bulldozer.Few batsmen ever blended cricketing art and grammar so proportionately.Overall he was more complete than Viv Richards or Sunil Gavaskar and a greater candidate for the 'perfect'batsmen.Greg blended the attacking agression of Viv Richards with the technical perfection of Sunil Gavaskar.From the bouncy West Indian or Australian tracks,the seaming green English tops to the turning sub-continent pitches Greg Chappell was equally at home.Arguably Greg compared as much with Bradman as Viv Richards and Gavaskar.In the history of the game arguably only Bradman,Hobbs and Tendulkar were more complete than Greg.

Greg’s batting had a characteristic English style which had elegance personified in total contrast to brother Ian who had a characteristic ruggedness and arrogance about his batting.One feature of his career was their back to back centuries at Wellington when Ian and Greg became the first brother combination to score 2centuries apiece in a test match.(Greg scored 247not out and 133 not out while Ian scored 145 and 121)Often it was Ian who inspired Greg.It was a sight to behold watching the two brothers batting at the crease who were temperamentally so different.

Stylistically Greg averaged 53.86 scoring 7110 runs in 151 innings in 87 tests.I rate him 2 nd best amongst Australian batsman behind only Bradman as though Ian Chappell was better in acrisis or on bad wickets or similarly Allan Border was more prolific they could not dominate an attack like Greg Chappell or win as many matches.14 out of his 24 centuries in test matches were match-winning affairs and Greg had a phenomenal average of 70 in test matches won by Australia.(better than Viv Richards,Tendulakr or Lara in modern times .)Ricky Ponting or Matthew Hayden may match Greg Chappell’s ability to dominate or been greater match-winners staistically but to me have not faced the same calibre of bolwing and had the advantage of playing for a champion team.Greg Chappel has faced the greatest bolwers of any era.(Andy Roberts,Imran Khan Etc).)Greg Chappells scores in Packer CRicket in the 1977-79 period and in the 1972 Rest of the World versus Australia series in Australia have been excluded from the record books .Otherwise he would have a higher ranking amongst the all -time great batsman..In Packer Cricket he averaged 56.14 with the highest aggregate of 1416 runs (better than Viv Richards)against the likes of Andy Roberts,Holding and Imran Khan including a .classic 246 not out verus Rest of the World and 174 versus West Indies.He tore the bowling like a sword piercing flesh when scoring 246 not out ,(which won the match against aChampion team)reminding one of a bomber destroying an enemy base. Against rest of the World at home in 1972.he averaged over 100 including scores of 115 and 197 not out .Greg’s best Innings was possibly his 131 at Lords i 1972 against England when his style and composure reminded one of the great batsman of the Golden age,mastering the moving ball..He scored prolifically against the Calypso paceman like in his debut series as skipper (when he scored a record for adebut series as skipper) scoring 702 runs at 117 including a classic 182 not out at Sydney.He also scored 621 runs at a 69 run average in the Packer Series in the West Indies,including 3 centuries.Statistically this was the best batting performance against the great Caribbean pace attack ever.Greg also showed he was a master on the sub-continent with a classical 235 at Faisalabad against Pakistan in 1980.Sadly we never saw Greg on the turning tracks of India.


Technically Greg was the best Australian batsman after Sir Don.Greg had a unique composure with an impregnable defence.In the post-war era there has not been a more correct Australian batsman.He had extraordinary judgement whether he should defend with a perfectly straight bat ar launch a blistering attack,including majestic drives,cuts and flicks on either side of the wicket.In the Arc region he batted like a surgeon performing an a operation and he was the best ever player of the flicked drive through mid wicket..When in full flow he was reminiscent of an emperor dicating his knights but scored his runs with the precision of asurgeon performing an operation.He was a perfect model for a schoolboy batsman.Few batsman ever have combined such technical correctness with the ability to destroy bowilng.In Greg’s only weakness was his vulnerability against the bouncing ball which was exposed on fast tracks against the West Indian paceman,particularly in 1979-80 He often top edged bouncers attempting the hook shot and his predominatly Front foot Technique got him into trouble. Most of his centuries against the West Indies came on slower wickets.
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Greg also exhibited great will power after a string of failures against West Indies at home in 1981-82 and he contemplated retirement.However he returned like a Muhammad Ali scoring 176 in New Zealand in 1982and went on to play 3 relatively successful Australian International seasons.(4Centuries against England and Pakistan

Overall statistically he played the great West Indian quicks better than any great batsmen,including Sunil Gavaskar.Remember the major portion of Gavaskar's runs against West Indies came against the weaker attacks and not the powerful quartet.Adding Packer games Greg scored 7 centuries against an atck with both Holding and Roberts .Arguably Gary Sobers was unfair in stating that Greg did not relish the quicker bowlers with his vulnerability to the bouncing ball and placed Gavaskar in a higher notch.In their books on 100 greatest cricketers John Wooodcock places Greg at 44th place with Gavaskar 21 places higher and Border 7 paces ahead,Cristopher Martin Jenkins places Greg at 38th place with Gavaskar 13 places ahead and Barry Richards 12.Only Geoff Armstrong does Greg justice placing him at 24th place just below Gavaskar in his selection.Even E.S.P.N.top 25 placed Greg at 18th place just behind Headley and Graeme Pollock.Adding Packer stats and scores v Rest of the World Greg Chappell was statistically the best batsmen of the 1970's.Greg may rank below Bradman,Lara,Tendulkar,Viv Richards,Gavaskar,Hutton,Hammond in the eyes of many experts but there are still those like Jeff Thomson who rate him as the best batsmen of his era.In my book Greg with his great aggregate may just edge the likes of Everton Weekes,George Headley ,Denis Compton etc If he had played in the era of Lara ,Ponting and Tendulkar I would have backed Greg do statistically give all of those stalwarts a run for their money.
 
One of the most complete batsmen of all time. He was arguably the second best batsmen of his era along with Sunil Gavaskar and only behind Viv Richards.

I would have him as the second best Australian batsmen of all time.

He was a very good limited over player too.
 
He is rated very highly so dont know who underrates him

He is underrated as coach though
 
Whoever doesn't rate Greg Chappell is either a Micky mouse league fan or someone who clearly doesn't understand cricket whatsoever !!
 
One of the most complete batsmen of all time. He was arguably the second best batsmen of his era along with Sunil Gavaskar and only behind Viv Richards.

I would have him as the second best Australian batsmen of all time.

He was a very good limited over player too.

Good reply -short and sensible.Not an equal of Viv or arguably better with his stats?better than Gavaskar?
 
The 2nd greatest batsman of his time alongside Sunny Gavaskar.
 
He has 5 100s against WI (Robets, Holding, Garner, and Croft).
He averages 74 in Asia with a 60+ average in all Asian countries.

He is one of the greatest batsmen of all time and I do not think anybody can underrate him.

The one who is underrated is the other brother, Ian, who was a clutch batsman and averages 50+ at #3.
 
Good reply -short and sensible.Not an equal of Viv or arguably better with his stats?better than Gavaskar?

Again didn't saw any of them but with what I have heard and read about them, Viv was clearly the best batsmen of his era for his ability to destroy the opposition and would do even better when the heat is on.

Gavaskar and Chappell were more or less equivalent.

Chappell also has a record of averaging 40+ in all countries.
 
As mentioned by other posters, he is not underrated and is rated accordingly to his record - one of the very best players of his era and up there with the greatest of Australian batsmen after the Don, of course.

IK also regarded Greg Chappell as the one of the best batsmen of his era (alongside Gavaskar, but behind Viv).
 
Greg is arguably the 2nd best batsmen in Aus history.
 
Cricket Australia salutes Greg Chappell upon retirementCricket Australia today announced a key change to its High Performance team.

After nine years in the position of National Talent Manager, Greg Chappell has announced his retirement. In more recent times, Chappell has combined this role alongside duties on the National Selection Panel for the Australian Men’s Team. He will conclude his tenure as National Talent Manager and National Selector on Monday, September 30

Following on from Chappell’s retirement, Graham Manou will step up into the expanded role of National Talent & Pathway Manager. Manou has been serving as National Pathway Manager for the past three years and will now take on several key aspects of Chappell’s former role, excluding that of National Selector.

Ben Oliver, EGM of National Teams, and his department have commenced the process of identifying and recruiting a new National Selector to fill the position created by Chappell’s retirement. The successful candidate will be announced in due course.

Commenting on Chappell’s remarkable contribution to Australian cricket, Oliver said:

“Greg has worked tirelessly for the game and is held in extremely high regard the world-round. The sport, and especially Cricket Australia, have been the beneficiaries of Greg's commitment to growing the game and its people.

“We have been inspired by Greg’s wisdom, unrivalled aura and his great quality as human being who has time for everyone – a true champion. I would like to congratulate Greg on a wonderful career at Cricket Australia and, whilst he won’t be working in the same capacity, we look forward to continuing our relationship beyond his official retirement in the months and years to come.”

Kevin Roberts, CEO of Cricket Australia, said Chappell had made an invaluable contribution to Australian cricket.

“Greg has had a profound and positive impact on cricket for generations. Greg was one of the finest players in the history of International cricket. Additionally, as a captain, coach, selector and mentor, Greg has been a true pioneer and innovator. His passion and commitment to the game are clear to anyone who has interacted with him and Australian cricket is all the stronger for his involvement. We wish him the very best in retirement and thank him for his exemplary service.”

Earl Eddings, Chairman of Cricket Australia, said Chappell’s legacy within Australian cricket would live on for generations to come.

“Many of us remember Greg as a stylish, courageous batsman across 87 Tests, 74 One-Day Internationals and 321 First Class matches. Others know him as one of the games great thinkers and strategists. Whichever your vantage point, everyone acknowledges that few have shaped the game of cricket like Greg has through the years. We will be forever grateful for his service and wish him well in retirement.”

Commenting on Manou’s expanded role, Drew Ginn, EGM of High Performance, said:

“I’m delighted to see Graham take on these additional responsibilities. A key focus for Graham will be system leadership in the talent and pathway area. He will continue to lead our National Pathway and Premier Cricket to ensure our player pathways are well connected, valued and progressing while also take responsibility for longer term talent planning focused on player development, succession, forecasting and prediction.”
 
I said he was the best Australian I saw, ahead of AB, Tugga and Ponting.

But now there’s this Smith bloke....
 
I feel Greg is a bit overshadowed by the legacy of his elder bro (& family as well, his grandpa was Vic Richardson). Ian came to cricket few years earlier and he was arguably Australia’s best batsman (among top 3-4 in world) when Greg debuted, therefore there was always comparisons between bros and Greg actually left SA shield side for Queensland, so that he can lead a FC team which eventually paved his path for Aussie Captaincy. I feel he suffered a bit from identity crisis - more dominant as Junior Chappel than Greg Chappel.

Second issue was, for 1970s, the superstar, the poster boy for Australian cricket was DK Lillee (rightly so), which again left Greg behind than where he should have been. Those were the days when Test cricket was supreme and a fast bowler like Lillee was no match for a batsman when it came to stardom.

Third one is probably unanimous for every batsmen of that era - even in this hung ho style days of cricket, an stats of 50/65 in Test cricket is like almost ATG.... in 70s, for the decade someone batted at 65/80 stats - without helmet and with lots of swagger. Unfortunately for Greg, during his best years, that guy toured Australia almost every summer for some team, played with him at Queensland and played at County as well. I am sure, instead of 1970s, if it was 1960s or 1980s - we would heard lot more about GC.
 
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