How does the present-day Jasprit Bumrah compare with the likes of Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis?

[Ab Fan]

He needs to get to 65 tests I would say then yea sure he has it in the bag.
Right now yes durability also matters.

48 tests? Ish. Pretty good but need 15 to 20 more and then yea.

I think he should quit odi completely

Just focus on tests and t20

Cummins had his first big injury now. Will be interesting to see how much longer he can play

Well second big injury actually

Rabada is a machine but he is getting slower every year

Average speed used to be 140 to 143

Now it’s like 136 to 138

I think 65 tests will put him in the league of top 10 test bowlers of all time but getting in top 5 bracket is unlikely.

For that, you need quality alongwith longevity (80+ tests in my opinion).

 

[mominsaigol]

Thanks. I am 2-0 ahead of you. Hopefully you will have a start soon.

You are not ahead of me, you are eons behind me. First get a potw and then we will talk

 

[kron]

I think 65 tests will put him in the league of top 10 test bowlers of all time but getting in top 5 bracket is unlikely.

For that, you need quality alongwith longevity (80+ tests in my opinion).

Holding and Robert’s and garner all had under 60. Bumrah will be top 5 with ease.

 

[Ab Fan]

Holding and Robert’s and garner all had under 60. Bumrah will be top 5 with ease.

They are not top 10 let alone top 5. Also, they suffered a bit due to competition from Colin Croft and lost 8-10 games to WSC.

 

[Ab Fan]

You are not ahead of me, you are eons behind me. First get a potw and then we will talk

lol.. First learn to post sensibly before self promotion your so called potw.

 

[mominsaigol]

lol.. First learn to post sensibly before self promotion your so called potw.

First learn to speak the truth before spreading lies.

 

[pratiktc]

Honestly match count and wicket count as parameters for greatness are only for statisticians to obsess over.

Once a bowler develops a body of work with success and skill showcasing across wide variety of surfaces and situations then they are fit to be in conversation of game's best. Usually with modern schedules around 30-35 tests is enough for tours across countries.

At this point in his career Bumrah is already an all time great bowler. He has shown consistency and performance as a difference making bowler in all of Ind/Aus/SA/Eng.

I am not a fan of comparing players across eras but anyone who watches Bumrah knows they are seeing a special talent. Probably the first proper three format #1 bowler.

 

[kron]

They are not top 10 let alone top 5. Also, they suffered a bit due to competition from Colin Croft and lost 8-10 games to WSC.

They are all top 10 and they are better than any Asian bowler barring bumrah imran and wasim

 

[Ab Fan]

They are all top 10 and they are better than any Asian bowler barring bumrah imran and wasim

Not for me. My top 10 in no particular order - Marshall, McGrath, Hadlee, Ambrose, Imran, Steyn, Wasim, Donald, Lillee, Cummins/ Rabada/ Bumrah. That’s 12.

What is your top 10?

 

[kron]

Not for me. My top 10 in no particular order - Marshall, McGrath, Hadlee, Ambrose, Imran, Steyn, Wasim, Donald, Lillee, Cummins/ Rabada/ Bumrah. That’s 12.

What is your top 10?

Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose
Bumrah
Rabada
Garner
Imran
Wasim
Cummins
Holding

In order for me if you say 12

Lillee is far too overrated
Donald choked too much vs Aus.

 

[Ab Fan]

Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose
Bumrah
Rabada
Garner
Imran
Wasim
Cummins
Holding

In order for me if you say 12

Lillee is far too overrated
Donald choked too much vs Aus.

So, Roberts and Holding aren’t in your top 10 either so I don’t know why you said they are top 10?

 

[kron]

So, Roberts and Holding aren’t in your top 10 either so I don’t know why you said they are top 10?

I was going to say above Donald and Lillee sorry

I was going through the list and then I was like yea Nha I can’t put him above Rabada or garner or even Cummins.

 

[kron]

So, Roberts and Holding aren’t in your top 10 either so I don’t know why you said they are top 10?

Actually thinking of it, arguably a case can easily be made for holding over Wasim. Wasim average vs top 4 teams of his era was only 28.25

 

[Ab Fan]

Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose
Bumrah
Rabada
Garner
Imran
Wasim
Cummins
Holding

In order for me if you say 12

Lillee is far too overrated
Donald choked too much vs Aus.

Lille’s WPM is simply phenomenal. 5 WPM tells us about his ability to run through sides.

Donald worst avg is vs Aus which is 31. Not too bad.

Garner is too high in your list. Just 7 5-fers and avg is freakish probably due to playing in strong team with all superstar bowlers. ATG bowler but just misses out from a top10 for me.

I will take Donald over Garner by just.

 

[kron]

Lille’s WPM is simply phenomenal. 5 WPM tells us about his ability to run through sides.

Donald worst avg is vs Aus which is 31. Not too bad.

Garner is too high in your list. Just 7 5-fers and avg is freakish probably due to playing in strong team with all superstar bowlers. ATG bowler but just misses out from a top10 for me.

I will take Donald over Garner by just.

Wasim should be lower actually
Imran can stay where he is

Would still say garner is better though than all including Donald.