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Has the Champions Trophy victory taken the limelight away from Misbah & Younis' farewell ceremony?

I wonder what happened to the grand Farewell Ceremony that the PCB was planning to honor Misbah ul Haq, Younis Khan and Shahid Afridi with?

They mentioned that they wanted to do it in full presence of their Pakistani team mates which obviously made sense at the time.

But boy has the CT victory taken the limelight away from these folks. Everyday we see Sarfaraz, Imad Wasim, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan, Fakhar Zaman and co giving various interviews left, right and centre and not to mention the numerous cash rewards, lands, cars and other luxury items being given to the players.

The players still have a ceremony with the PM on July 5th.

Just wondering if the PCB has completely forgotten about the grand farewell ceremony that they promised?
 
By delaying their retirement and costing Pakistan team humiliation in World Cup, test series in New Zealand and Australia , they don't deserve any farewell, particularly Misbah. I'm glad he is gone and I'm enjoying the post-Misbah era already.
 
Celebrating Misbah and the years of mediocrity that he brought would just spoil all the fun
 
We should celebrate the retirement of Misbah for the next decade. Finally the worst era of Pakistan cricket came to an end.
 
By delaying their retirement and costing Pakistan team humiliation in World Cup, test series in New Zealand and Australia , they don't deserve any farewell, particularly Misbah. I'm glad he is gone and I'm enjoying the post-Misbah era already.
This post of mine is not directed to you only but its true for all Pakistanis including me. We as pakistani nation have weak memories, we tend to forget our players mistakes as a result we get carried away with our celebrations of one or two victories, same is the case with when we lose one or two matches, we discredit the captain and players with all the hardwork they put into the matches.

Misbah is by far one of the most sucessful captains we ever had. Younis khan was Pakistans greatest test batsmen. And shahid afridi, no matter what people say about him one thing is for sure that he gave so many victories to Pakistan team. And even the victory of 2009 worldcup and asiacup would not been realizable if wasnt around.
 
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I can forsee a ceremony where the PCB will mostly honor the CT winning team with a brief and forgettable tribute to Misbah.

It is honestly like Justice has finally been served. Misbah's 7 years of mediocrity did not deserve a grand reception
 
Why they didnt do us any favours, i would have given my right kidney to represent my country at a world cup and not asked for whatever ceremony. I would not have selfishly caused 3 word cup losses being the worst odi player ever to play more than 50 odis and then using the media to blackmail a way back in and claim i am a team man. Misbah didnt do anything as cheap or selfish as selfish khan but by god is the whole if pakistan glad his tuk tuk tuk era is finished.
 
Misbah was absolutely incorrect in captaining for the Australia and New Zealand tour. Sarfraz was not even ODI captain back than and only had 4 T20 matches under his leadership. However, his decision to not retire after the England series was poor. It was the perfect story book ending to regain respect and admiration from the place we were shamed six years prior. The PCB should have made Sarfraz captain for the WI UAE Test series and allowed him to determine who was fit and who was able to play for the two big overseas tours coming up. The PCB likes yes-men and I'm sorry to say but Misbah is a glorified yes-man. Pakistan did not lose a test series in NZ for the last 30 years and yet we lost 2-0. When we celebrated Shafiq's 100 at the Gabba in a losing cause it reeked of a new low in our test cricketing history. Misbah looked bored, tired, and depleted in the OZ Tour. Not helped by his horrendous form with the bat and uninspired captaincy we lost a match we were supposed to draw and continued or losing streak to 12-0. Whatever the outcome would have been under Sarfraz's captaincy in OZ, at least he would not have forced Yasir to continue to bowl a leg-stump line.
 
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Pakistanis are obsessed with ceremonies. They are retired. They were not Gods, they were decent cricketers and they retired.

And to those blasting Misbah's era of "mediocrity", I would gladyly take mediocrity over the horror and humiliation which came before it.
 
Misbah's mediocrity was needed not beyond 2015. And only for Tests mind you.
 
To those that are saying he had a mediocre side, it was his own selection.

I think he did the right thing by choosing conservative/defensive players for the Test team but he was really holding Pakistan back in the shorter format.

His greatest legacy will be his achievement in rebuilding respect for the team after the debacle that ensued during THAT England series. He earned back the respect of the cricketing world. Him and Younis were great ambassadors and their service to Pakistani cricket deserves a mention alongside The Great Khan's achievements.

That being said, I think Sarfraz is already a better captain in the shorter format.
 
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This post of mine is not directed to you only but its true for all Pakistanis including me. We as pakistani nation have weak memories, we tend to forget our players mistakes as a result we get carried away with our celebrations of one or two victories, same is the case with when we lose one or two matches, we discredit the captain and players with all the hardwork they put into the matches.

Misbah is by far one of the most sucessful captains we ever had. Younis khan was Pakistans greatest test batsmen. And shahid afridi, no matter what people say about him one thing is for sure that he gave so many victories to Pakistan team. And even the victory of 2009 worldcup and asiacup would not been realizable if wasnt around.

u should bring now how many matches we lost due to afridi stupidity and yunus stubbornness
 
I don't think they should, but winning the CT greatly outweighs YK and Misbah retiring lol. Especially in the way we won it.

If anything it just makes our year of cricket so far a lot more meaningful and momentous. Some of our legends retired right after the first test series win in the Windies, PSL, and a ODI tournament victory. All in all its been pretty great.
 
I think they have already got what they deserve, in fact Misbah didn't even deserve that much. CT17 win celebration is more important as Pak fans needed that life saving tonic. With just tournament Sarfaraz has surpassed everything that Misbah ever managed to achieve as a captain.
If anyone still wants to add glory to Misbah then they should give that to Ajmal, Yasir, Azhar and Younis who actually made Misbah 's test victories possible.
 
how did Misbah give Pakistan respect,spot fixing happens and in fact Misbah lead Pakistan when nobody ever even dreamt of committing the crime,now the real test has come,time has passed and the incident isn't that new Butt,Amir,Asif are back and the PSL has also arrived so TBH

Misbah didn't do much,just made sure we lost in grace
 
how did Misbah give Pakistan respect,spot fixing happens and in fact Misbah lead Pakistan when nobody ever even dreamt of committing the crime,now the real test has come,time has passed and the incident isn't that new Butt,Amir,Asif are back and the PSL has also arrived so TBH

Misbah didn't do much,just made sure we lost in grace

Don't get to #1 in Test rankings by losing with grace...
 
Its like Idiots R Us in this thread. Pakistani quam have such short memories.

I think they have already got what they deserve, in fact Misbah didn't even deserve that much. CT17 win celebration is more important as Pak fans needed that life saving tonic. With just tournament Sarfaraz has surpassed everything that Misbah ever managed to achieve as a captain.
If anyone still wants to add glory to Misbah then they should give that to Ajmal, Yasir, Azhar and Younis who actually made Misbah 's test victories possible.

Sir you win the dumbest post of the year award beating stiff competition from all the others in this thread.

So Misbah takes all the flak for the losses but none of the credit for the wins in your world.

Who persisted with Azhar, Shafiq, Yasir and Ajmal when they could've been dropped on many occasions after poor periods of form ? Who came up with the combination in the first place ? Who introduced Sarfraz into the Test team ?

Who captained the side when we beat England twice and drew away, beat Sri Lanka, New Zealand and West Indies away ?

Who captained us when we beat India away in 2012-13 and South Africa away (first ever Asian team to do so) ?

Any rational Pakistani fan appreciates BOTH the Misbah/Younis farewell occasion and the CT triumph. Why such binary thinking ? However rationality is not a part of Mr Savak when it comes to his petty likes/dislikes.
 
This post of mine is not directed to you only but its true for all Pakistanis including me. We as pakistani nation have weak memories, we tend to forget our players mistakes as a result we get carried away with our celebrations of one or two victories, same is the case with when we lose one or two matches, we discredit the captain and players with all the hardwork they put into the matches.

Misbah is by far one of the most sucessful captains we ever had. Younis khan was Pakistans greatest test batsmen. And shahid afridi, no matter what people say about him one thing is for sure that he gave so many victories to Pakistan team. And even the victory of 2009 worldcup and asiacup would not been realizable if wasnt around.

To those that are saying he had a mediocre side, it was his own selection.

I think he did the right thing by choosing conservative/defensive players for the Test team but he was really holding Pakistan back in the shorter format.

His greatest legacy will be his achievement in rebuilding respect for the team after the debacle that ensued during THAT England series. He earned back the respect of the cricketing world. Him and Younis were great ambassadors and their service to Pakistani cricket deserves a mention alongside The Great Khan's achievements.

That being said, I think Sarfraz is already a better captain in the shorter format.

Two rational posts in a sea of stupidity.
 
Unless I have missed a PCB release on this, who said that they will not get a grand farewell?

Absolutely ridiculous and shameful comments about Pakistan's most faithful servants but then expected from some

Seems old habits die hard.
 
Don't get to #1 in Test rankings by losing with grace...

Massive fluke beating a poor Australian and England side in the UAE

Winning against the worst Sri Lankan team for quite some time

Winning against England 3-0 and the 2-2 draw were probably the teams not Misbahs finest moment

If Immi had this team imagine where we would have been

No1 in all formats

P.S. Where are we know
 
Massive fluke beating a poor Australian and England side in the UAE

Winning against the worst Sri Lankan team for quite some time

Winning against England 3-0 and the 2-2 draw were probably the teams not Misbahs finest moment

If Immi had this team imagine where we would have been

No1 in all formats

P.S. Where are we know

Immi? You mean the guy who has same number of wins as Javed Miandad? Our second most successful test captain?
 
Unless I have missed a PCB release on this, who said that they will not get a grand farewell?

Absolutely ridiculous and shameful comments about Pakistan's most faithful servants but then expected from some

Seems old habits die hard.

Awaiting for the PCB press release. In the mean time there are no interviews for Misbah and haven't been since he came back from the WI tour since May 15th, while the CT squad are giving interviews left right and centre. The CT squad has a reception with the PM on July 5th. The CT squad has been showered with cash prizes, cars, lands from all corners and it is pretty certain that any PCB grand ceremony will be dominated by the CT squad while any announcement honouring Younis and Misbah will only have a negligible 1-2 min effect only.

Sorry but the CT win has completely taken the shine from Misbah's and Younis's well crafted retirements.
 
Massive fluke beating a poor Australian and England side in the UAE

Winning against the worst Sri Lankan team for quite some time

Winning against England 3-0 and the 2-2 draw were probably the teams not Misbahs finest moment

If Immi had this team imagine where we would have been

No1 in all formats

P.S. Where are we know
I'm sorry but this is an illogical post from start to finish lacking any credibility or fact and only fuelled by blind personal hatred.

So winning a total of 7 Tests against England in 2012 and 2015, and Australia in 2014, is all a fluke. There is no such thing as fluking Test series wins, it is a test of endurance over a prolonged period of time.

Australia had beaten England 5-0 the previous winter and South Africa away that same year so you have a funny definition of a poor team. BTW who scored the joint fastest Test hundred in one of those Tests vs Australia ? Was it the Holy Ghost ? Neither were England a poor team, they were #1 in the rankings in 2011-12.

To address the England tour - who scored the crucial hundred at Lord's Test in 1st innings after we were 134-4 and looking in trouble ? Was that also the holy ghost ? Misbah averaged 40 and scored 2 fifties and 1 hundred in that series so laughable to detract credit from him.

Who gave supporting hand to Younis and Masood in Pallekele with a fifty in the 4th innings to lead us to our highest ever run chase in Tests ? That same Sri Lanka team whitewashed Australia a year later. Of course these wins are a team effort, no team gets to #1 in the rankings on the back of one individual.

Now I've acknowledged Misbah's flaws in many threads, I criticised him for his tactics down under, however there's a difference between fair constructive criticism and your laughably obvious bias.
 
Some seriously poor comments here. Why can't you celebrate both the CT trophy and the MisYou's farewell at same time?

But one thing is sure, in threads like this the haters are exposed.
 
The series finale in WI's and CT final were both thrilling although I was a bit more emotionally invested in the final WI/Pak Test match.
 
Awaiting for the PCB press release. In the mean time there are no interviews for Misbah and haven't been since he came back from the WI tour since May 15th, while the CT squad are giving interviews left right and centre. The CT squad has a reception with the PM on July 5th. The CT squad has been showered with cash prizes, cars, lands from all corners and it is pretty certain that any PCB grand ceremony will be dominated by the CT squad while any announcement honouring Younis and Misbah will only have a negligible 1-2 min effect only.

Sorry but the CT win has completely taken the shine from Misbah's and Younis's well crafted retirements.

Could that be because Misbah and YK themselves dont want to steal the limelight from the people they have mentored themselves?
 
I'm sorry but this is an illogical post from start to finish lacking any credibility or fact and only fuelled by blind personal hatred.

So winning a total of 7 Tests against England in 2012 and 2015, and Australia in 2014, is all a fluke. There is no such thing as fluking Test series wins, it is a test of endurance over a prolonged period of time.

Australia had beaten England 5-0 the previous winter and South Africa away that same year so you have a funny definition of a poor team. BTW who scored the joint fastest Test hundred in one of those Tests vs Australia ? Was it the Holy Ghost ? Neither were England a poor team, they were #1 in the rankings in 2011-12.

To address the England tour - who scored the crucial hundred at Lord's Test in 1st innings after we were 134-4 and looking in trouble ? Was that also the holy ghost ? Misbah averaged 40 and scored 2 fifties and 1 hundred in that series so laughable to detract credit from him.

Who gave supporting hand to Younis and Masood in Pallekele with a fifty in the 4th innings to lead us to our highest ever run chase in Tests ? That same Sri Lanka team whitewashed Australia a year later. Of course these wins are a team effort, no team gets to #1 in the rankings on the back of one individual.

Now I've acknowledged Misbah's flaws in many threads, I criticised him for his tactics down under, however there's a difference between fair constructive criticism and your laughably obvious bias.
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Even I didn't agree with a lot of Misbah's tactics,but that doesn't mean I hate him blindly and blame him for every loss,while not giving any credit for wins.

Misbah-ul-Haq brought Pakistan back from the brink,there was talk about us being banned from international cricket after the horrors of 2010.But he brought us back to a respectable position in international cricket.
 
The level of hate Misbah gets by some people on this forum is shocking.

He wasn't perfect when it came to ODI's but he became the first Pakistani to claim the mace and maintains an undefeated record in the dessert with a memorable record breaking series in England as well. In addition, he lead with great honour in the aftermath of our darkest hour and restored respect to Pakistan; he has also conducted himself with the utmost dignity and was very courageous.

Misbah is the man who is meant to inspire, those who disrespect him are everything they hate and products of their environment. Anyhow, the great man commands respect all around the globe and the international cricket community pay tribute to his magnificence; this is what matters in the end and I have no doubt he will enter the illustrious Hall of Fame one day.

:salute [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION]
 
Could that be because Misbah and YK themselves dont want to steal the limelight from the people they have mentored themselves?

To say they didn't want recognition, adulation and limelight at the end of their career is naive. If Misbah didn't want any lime light, he would have retired a long time ago when it was clear he was surplus to requirements in Pakistan's ODI team and Test team, he would not have stuck around for the WI tour in search of that high ending against a weak WI team.

Similarly Younis would have stuck around for another 1-2 years when he knew the team desperately needed him in test cricket but he chose to put his image, legacy first ahead of the needs of the country.

Both individuals knew that they will maximize their chances for the best possible farewell against a weak WI side in the WI.

But alas the CT win was unexpected and has taken away all the limelight from them. They will certainly feel it deep down now.
 
Jeez Man :facepalm:

The amount of hate Misbah gets on Pakpassion is well and truly disturbing. There are some bad calls he made right at the twilight of his captaincy however the man has retired fgs....... Let him and others just live in peace!!

Going by how folks post here, it might seem that Misbah is some carnivorous flesh eating vampire who only feeds on new born kittens - Stop hating on him ***
 
Immi? You mean the guy who has same number of wins as Javed Miandad? Our second most successful test captain?

Go ask Misbah and his timid kittens to play that windies team

Imran is ten times the player Misbah ever was and can never ever match him

No Imran= no Wasim no waqar no inzi no saeed Anwar no Abdul Qadir no reverse swing no World Cup,

No Misbah=No timid kittens
 
Go ask Misbah and his timid kittens to play that windies team

Imran is ten times the player Misbah ever was and can never ever match him

No Imran= no Wasim no waqar no inzi no saeed Anwar no Abdul Qadir no reverse swing no World Cup,

No Misbah=No timid kittens

No Misbah=Pakistan cricket in shambles especially tests.

No Misbah:No timid kittens like Azhar,Yasir,Ajmal and no Junaid khan.

There is no argument that Imran is probably one of the best cricketers in history.Misbah isn't close to him in stature and respect.
 
Some appalling posts but than again not surprised as this has become far too common on PP.
 
No Misbah=Pakistan cricket in shambles especially tests.

No Misbah:No timid kittens like Azhar,Yasir,Ajmal and no Junaid khan.

There is no argument that Imran is probably one of the best cricketers in history.Misbah isn't close to him in stature and respect.

Lol at the players you have mentioned
 
I'm sure misbah and YK are both happy with the champions trophy win if it means a smaller farewell celebration for them.

Wouldn't we be happy if we were in their place? They're both Pakistani aswell just like all of us.
 
The level of hate Misbah gets by some people on this forum is shocking.

You are a level-headed guy. Tell me what has Misbah's 5+ years as ODI captain yielded. Let's ignore his test captaincy for a second and tell me what did he achieve as ODI player/captain. How many youngsters were debuted or how many future stars were nurtured or developed? Is it not a fact that Pakistan plummeted through the rankings during his era? Or is it all a conspiracy against Misbah the saviour?

I'm all for supporting your heroes, but Misbah fans are resorting to hero worship and cannot hear anything said against him.

If you can answer the questions I asked you, you will realize why I'm against him.
 
CT win has defo overshadowed Misbah n YKs retirement somewhat but they will get their recognition too. of course the nation is still in euphoria over the CT win.
 
Tbh-Pakistan always finds its way out so I don't think without Misbah anything catastrophic could have happened
 
You are a level-headed guy. Tell me what has Misbah's 5+ years as ODI captain yielded. Let's ignore his test captaincy for a second and tell me what did he achieve as ODI player/captain. How many youngsters were debuted or how many future stars were nurtured or developed? Is it not a fact that Pakistan plummeted through the rankings during his era? Or is it all a conspiracy against Misbah the saviour?

I'm all for supporting your heroes, but Misbah fans are resorting to hero worship and cannot hear anything said against him.

If you can answer the questions I asked you, you will realize why I'm against him.

To be very honest with you, I was a huge fan of Misbah the ODI player and captain and I'll give you the reasons why. These reasons may hold different or lower worth to you but in my opinion, these are some of the greatest achievements by a Pakistani captain/player.

Let's first start off by the question's you asked me: How many youngsters were debuted or how many future stars were developed?

First of all, you and I both know that while the captain has some say, the entire decision of who makes the team is made by the panel of selectors we have, headed by the chief selector, mostly a corrupt man. You've lived the majority of your life in Pakistan and I know you know that the selectors are HEAVILY under the influence of politicians, businessmen and personal agenda's mostly like every other department in Pakistan.

I have extremely reliable or close sources in the PCB who have assured me that even to make a First Class team, the player has to pay at least 30,00,000. Whether or not you believe this is your choice but you know about the level of corruption in the PCB and how hard it is for players to make First Class teams, let alone the national team.

Nonetheless, I will address to your query of how many potential future stars were given a go in the side during his tenure. First of all, let's get one thing straight, he had to choose from the available players in the domestic circuit, not like Imran Khan who would just pluck boys from the street because things don't work that way anymore.

Firstly, Saeed Ajmal. Now at 31, he wasn't exactly a youngster but Saeed was largely responsible for any ODI success we had during Misbah's time and at a point in time, he was ranked No.1 in all formats of the game and most batsmen around the world feared the sound of his name, including Sanga and Amla.

Second, whether you like him or not, Ahmed Shehzad certainly had shown glimpses of being world class and was given a consistent run only in Misbahs time. Whether he turned out to be world class or not wasn't in the hands of Misbah, all he could do was advocate for his return in the team.

Third, Yasir Shah, Misbah's teammate for his First Class team.

Even Sharjeel Khan was introduced by Misbah.

Our favorite Kaptaan Sarfraz Ahmed was given a consistent run by Misbah and we were all saved from the plague of the Akmal brothers.

As for your second question, yes. It is a fact that we plummeted through the rankings during his time but to say Misbah was the reason is your opinion, not a fact. Misbah was in fact the reason we didn't go further down the rankings. What could the poor guy do? Akmals, Afridi, Farhat and so many other players had such a strong lobby in the PCB and politics that it was impossible for Misbah to take the team to any colossal heights. Yet, the greatness of the man was exhibited through his man-managing skills where he got the best possible use out of players with limited ability when we won the Asia Cup or became the first and ONLY team to beat SA in SA when they were at their peak in ODI cricket with a rampant Steyn running through ODI sides for fun while Amla and AB were going through one of the best peaks in ODI history.

Now coming to Misbah the ODI player himself, I don't really understand what fans want honestly. He has one of the highest averages for Pakistan ODI players and a good 5K runs. The only few matches that we did win during Misbah's time were primarily because Misbah held the ship. You and I both know that 90% of the time Misbah walked out, the team was suffering and was on the brink of a collapse. He had a couple of prolific years where he was the highest run getter in ODI's and had even shunned his haters by getting the most sixes.

I understand someone not liking a cricketer but to blame one man for everything wrong with the team when you know that's not the case is a little harsh.
 
Now coming to Misbah the ODI player himself, I don't really understand what fans want honestly. He has one of the highest averages for Pakistan ODI players and a good 5K runs. The only few matches that we did win during Misbah's time were primarily because Misbah held the ship. You and I both know that 90% of the time Misbah walked out, the team was suffering and was on the brink of a collapse. He had a couple of prolific years where he was the highest run getter in ODI's and had even shunned his haters by getting the most sixes.
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I'd have to check this or have it verified by someone else, but the few victories I remember was mainly due to some late order hitting by the likes of Afridi or exceptional bowling performances by the spin trio of Ajmal, Hafeez and Afridi. What use was "holding the ship" when ultimately all it did was delay the inevitable defeat. His batting average might have been high but still failed to register even one century.

And how can you recommend your successor for captaincy when you don't even deem that person worthy of selection under your own watch in the first place? That is truly baffling :13: Note, not hating just asking some valid questions. I do appreciate that Misbah was a gentleman though.
 
I'd have to check this or have it verified by someone else, but the few victories I remember was mainly due to some late order hitting by the likes of Afridi or exceptional bowling performances by the spin trio of Ajmal, Hafeez and Afridi. What use was "holding the ship" when ultimately all it did was delay the inevitable defeat. His batting average might have been high but still failed to register even one century.

And how can you recommend your successor for captaincy when you don't even deem that person worthy of selection under your own watch in the first place? That is truly baffling :13: Note, not hating just asking some valid questions. I do appreciate that Misbah was a gentleman though.

Firstly, please check the scorecards of most of his innings. I don't remember more than 5 times when he walked about and the team was in a stable position. Him having a low strike rate is completely understandable because if he got out too, we would mostly have been bowled out for less than a 100 runs instead of the usual the 200 (which itself was low) that we scored. Please do some research.

And you mentioning him not getting a century shows you inadequate knowledge, if I may respectfully say. He got close to getting to a century numerous times but mostly ran out of partners. As for Afridi, please at least check the scorecards, his late order hitting only happened once in 10 matches and it was Misbah who gave them something to bowl at.

And as for the captaincy bit, I don't know why it is assumed that the captain is responsible for selection when there is an ENTIRE team of selectors and a chief selector and on top of 100% political involvement. You've got to be kidding me bro.
 
Yes, totally. It has also taken away the limelight from Fazal Mahmood's spell at The Oval lmao. This thread makes no sense.
 
Not saying he did the selection but the recommendation, why would he recommend someone if he felt he wasn't good enough in the first place?
 
He was unfortunate to be a part of mediocre team

He was a mediocre batsman and captain as well, just less mediocre than the rest of the batsmen in LOI.

In tests, he was pretty decent, therefore nothing wrong with a farewell ceremony for their test accomplishments
 
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He was a mediocre batsman and captain as well, just less mediocre than the rest of the batsmen in LOI.

In tests, he was pretty decent, therefore nothing wrong with a farewell ceremony for their test accomplishments

It's true, not a great LOI batsman, could not play pace bowling resulting in going full block mode for the entirety of his innings.
 
Misbah was absolutely incorrect in captaining for the Australia and New Zealand tour. Sarfraz was not even ODI captain back than and only had 4 T20 matches under his leadership. However, his decision to not retire after the England series was poor. It was the perfect story book ending to regain respect and admiration from the place we were shamed six years prior. The PCB should have made Sarfraz captain for the WI UAE Test series and allowed him to determine who was fit and who was able to play for the two big overseas tours coming up. The PCB likes yes-men and I'm sorry to say but Misbah is a glorified yes-man. Pakistan did not lose a test series in NZ for the last 30 years and yet we lost 2-0. When we celebrated Shafiq's 100 at the Gabba in a losing cause it reeked of a new low in our test cricketing history. Misbah looked bored, tired, and depleted in the OZ Tour. Not helped by his horrendous form with the bat and uninspired captaincy we lost a match we were supposed to draw and continued or losing streak to 12-0. Whatever the outcome would have been under Sarfraz's captaincy in OZ, at least he would not have forced Yasir to continue to bowl a leg-stump line.

If Misbah had retired after the England tour, everyone would have accused him of selfishness. Seriously, you cannot make anyone happy on this forum.
 
Yes, and rightly so.

Happy to see us finally move on from Misbah and Younis. However, they were two legends of the nation and both have done a lot for the country.

Didn't agree with most of what Misbah did but he is gone now. Both are gone. Why talk trash about them?

Enjoy the CT win, and appreciate YK and Misbah for the good times they have provided us with.
 
Misbah was great for us in Test but he was an average captain and a nothing batsman in LOIs. The only time his captaincy was impressive was in CWC2015 but it was rather too late.

He kept on playing Asad Shafiq, Younis Khan, and even Imran Farhat.
 
Our favorite Kaptaan Sarfraz Ahmed was given a consistent run by Misbah and we were all saved from the plague of the Akmal brothers.

sarfraz ahmed was dropped from the team during misbah, it was moin khan who brought sarfraz back into the team, so misbah doesnt deserve one iota of credit for sarfraz, not to mention he was removed as vice captain and azhar ali made captain by misbah in his place.

only sarfraz deserves consistent run because he proved his selection well repeatedly by playing crucial knocks
 
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OOPS, Misbah hate thread I must say...From the test mace to retirement he turns from a champ to a mediocre. #justpakistanithings
 
This is ridiculous. Typical Pakistani fans.

Fair enough not everyone agreed with Misbah's tactics some of the time, but come on, he got us to number 1 in the rankings and 90% of you were jumping up and down at the time.

We need to appreciate the quality of the two players rather than bashing them.
 
Come on guys after so long we had a passionate team on display which of course is very anti-Misbah flavour and they pulled out some incredible victories and that has brought back the passion back in the long deprived fans and everyone loving this moment. It looks like cricket is breathing back again in Pak. No need to add glamour to something which was a proven dead-bat, a kind of leader of refugees who were being used by everyone as a punching bag in major tournaments.
Misbah has already been given back a lot more than any cricketer of his capabilities would have imagined, one full month of send-off and numerous articles singing in his praise. I am sure even he would be amazed with so much of fanfare for achieving what he ended up with.
 
sarfraz ahmed was dropped from the team during misbah, it was moin khan who brought sarfraz back into the team, so misbah doesnt deserve one iota of credit for sarfraz, not to mention he was removed as vice captain and azhar ali made captain by misbah in his place.

only sarfraz deserves consistent run because he proved his selection well repeatedly by playing crucial knocks

Wrong. Sarfraz was given a consistent run by Misbah in the Test team which inevitably lead to him solidifying his spot in the team.
 
Wrong. Sarfraz was given a consistent run by Misbah in the Test team which inevitably lead to him solidifying his spot in the team.

no, sarfraz himself played brilliantly to solidify his spot in the team, misbah doesnt share any credit here

but he was dropped by misbah earlier and couldnt make a come back until moin khan became the selector of PCB

no where even sarfraz pay any credit to misbah for his career, he has named lots of people like sir viv richards, moin khan, azam khan etc
 
This is ridiculous. Typical Pakistani fans.

Fair enough not everyone agreed with Misbah's tactics some of the time, but come on, he got us to number 1 in the rankings and 90% of you were jumping up and down at the time.

We need to appreciate the quality of the two players rather than bashing them.

what is the test ranking of pakistan when misbah left the team?
 
By delaying their retirement and costing Pakistan team humiliation in World Cup, test series in New Zealand and Australia , they don't deserve any farewell, particularly Misbah. I'm glad he is gone and I'm enjoying the post-Misbah era already.
test series in Australia will always be lost no matter who the players are..NZ are not minnows anymore so it is difficult to beat them too...but yes the ODI set up was a mess under Misbah I agree...but Misbah is not to be blamed, PCB is to be blamed to persist with Misbah/Younus in ODI's..
 
Wrong. Sarfraz was given a consistent run by Misbah in the Test team which inevitably lead to him solidifying his spot in the team.

He was dropped after SA series and come back after a year. Misbah's favorite was Adnan Akmal. It's true that Moin Khan brought him in the side. Adnan played in the first test against SL in UAE 2014, and it was Adnan's injury that got Sarfraz to play in the 2nd and 3rd test. He played a match winning innings in the 3rd test to chase 300+ in 57 overs then rest is history.


Sarfraz forced himself in the side with match winning preformance not because Misbah wanted it
 
Hilarious, tunnel vision fans who just look at one point rather than the whole picture. Well done you.

you didnt reply my post

my point is, its ultimately the end result which counts the best

misbah should have retired after pak reached number 1, but no, he kept on making money and milking out his success

ultimately it was misbah's greed which let him down and saw him a far lesser farewell/respect then deserved
 
Go ask Misbah and his timid kittens to play that windies team

Imran is ten times the player Misbah ever was and can never ever match him

No Imran= no Wasim no waqar no inzi no saeed Anwar no Abdul Qadir no reverse swing no World Cup,

No Misbah=No timid kittens

Saeed Anwar still abuses Imran Khan for the way he was treated as a player under him, Saeed doesn't credit his development to Imran instead he says he was a big hindrance to his development by only confining him to ODIs, sadly Anwar only played his first test 5-6 years after he debut'ed in ODIs
 
Saeed Anwar still abuses Imran Khan for the way he was treated as a player under him, Saeed doesn't credit his development to Imran instead he says he was a big hindrance to his development by only confining him to ODIs, sadly Anwar only played his first test 5-6 years after he debut'ed in ODIs

Saeed Anwar made his ODI debut in 1989.

Saeed Anwar made his Test debut in 1990.

Saeed Anwar got a pair on Test debut and yes he was dropped after that... but Imran Khan only played four more Test matches.

So... :danish
 
Saeed Anwar made his ODI debut in 1989.

Saeed Anwar made his Test debut in 1990.

Saeed Anwar got a pair on Test debut and yes he was dropped after that... but Imran Khan only played four more Test matches.

So... :danish

Yes, it is rumored that Saeed didn't play for a long time since Imran believed he was an ODI batsmen and didn't have a test match temperament..

I'm not sure if you can judge a guy in the first game he plays... turns out the guy only played 45 test matches in a career spanning almost 14 years
 
Yes, it is rumored that Saeed didn't play for a long time since Imran believed he was an ODI batsmen and didn't have a test match temperament..

I'm not sure if you can judge a guy in the first game he plays... turns out the guy only played 45 test matches in a career spanning almost 14 years

But you said that he didn't debut until 5-6 years in Tests after his ODI debut - he debuted the next year.

And how did Imran Khan keep him out of the Test team (for 5-6 year as you say) (Anwar returned in 1994) when Imran himself played his last Test in Jan 1992? :(
 
But you said that he didn't debut until 5-6 years in Tests after his ODI debut - he debuted the next year.

And how did Imran Khan keep him out of the Test team (for 5-6 year as you say) (Anwar returned in 1994) when Imran himself played his last Test in Jan 1992? :(

Well, if you didn't know Imran had alot of say in matters of our cricket even post retirement like who plays who should be cpatain... This is all conjecture I might be wrong, but Miandad has mentioned this in his book

And Saeed Anwar was one player Imran disliked as far as I know.. maybe because of his fielding and dropped catches
 
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