Hashim Amla - the modern day genius

[Hasan123]

Great batters have a decent peak a couple of years before 27/28, them at the age they have their peak.

Amla struggled at the start of his career. From 2010-2015, he had a excellent career. But from 2015-2019, he has been rubbish.

A good player who had a decent patch. That’s it. Let’s not put him in a category he doesn’t belong.

 

[Ab Fan]

He will be remembered for his legacy in tests rather than in ODIs.

 

[Slog]

KP and Hayden were nowhere near the level of Amla in test cricket , the real format for batsmen to show what they are made of .

On topic , was sad to see the great man walk off at Lords disappointed . Hope he retires and enjoys his life after a great career .,

KP is superior to Amla in every aspect no question

 

[Itachi]

He will be remembered for his legacy in tests rather than in ODIs.

Not actually. People have short term memories and by default, people remembers weak aspect of a person more than his strength. So in case of amla, people will remember him as the person who should have had retired long ago.

 

[Bilal7]

Great batters have a decent peak a couple of years before 27/28, them at the age they have their peak.

Amla struggled at the start of his career. From 2010-2015, he had a excellent career. But from 2015-2019, he has been rubbish.

A good player who had a decent patch. That’s it. Let’s not put him in a category he doesn’t belong.

Hashim Amla struggled during 2007-2010? [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION], you're definitely right about the memory loss.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You should not carry batsmen with scars. Top 3 out of 4 have scars

 

[jagatk]

They should change the title to modern day statpadder. One of the worst ever players in terms of actually playing match winning innings instead of just big innings.

 

[Hasan123]

Hashim Amla struggled during 2007-2010? [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION], you're definitely right about the memory loss.

I don't want to debate with you about Amla due to your extreme bias towards.

He's not the ATG you claimed him to be.

You actually said he was up there with Kohli, better than Dravid, and the 2nd best ODI opener. )

 

[Hitman]

I don't want to debate with you about Amla due to your extreme bias towards.

He's not the ATG you claimed him to be.

You actually said he was up there with Kohli, better than Dravid, and the 2nd best ODI opener. )

Rohit Sharma wipes the floor with him anyday.

 

[Hasan123]

Rohit Sharma wipes the floor with him anyday.

I forgot about that gem. )

According to him accelerate doesn't matter in ODIs.

He's making out as though Amla was sbowing ATG form in 2007 and 2008.

Just a good batter who had a very good purple patch but his favourite players are always ATGs and GOATs .

 

[barah_admi]

He will be remembered for his legacy in tests rather than in ODIs.

He won't be remembered as the fastest o almost every thousand run milestone in ODIs?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

He won't be remembered as the fastest o almost every thousand run milestone in ODIs?

Sadly these records won't stand for long due to these batting friendly pitches

 

[KingKhanWC]

KP is superior to Amla in every aspect no question

lol. Amla a far superiour player of spin bowling, KP was all at sea apart from a few good innings. Amla can bat for days, KP doesn't have the temperament, not to mention a dozen other things inc their averages.

 

[anikrc1]

lol. Amla a far superiour player of spin bowling, KP was all at sea apart from a few good innings. Amla can bat for days, KP doesn't have the temperament, not to mention a dozen other things inc their averages.

Kp actually averages more than amla

 

[KingKhanWC]

Kp actually averages more than amla

In test cricket there is not much of difference.

 

[Bilal7]

I don't want to debate with you about Amla due to your extreme bias towards.

He's not the ATG you claimed him to be.

You actually said he was up there with Kohli, better than Dravid, and the 2nd best ODI opener. )

He was better than Kohli until 2015-2016 when age caught up to him. He's easily better than Dravid across formats and given his record, calling him the second-best ODI opener is no stretch. He's definitely a great batsman for all that he accomplished before 2015-2016. Had he run away when South Africa were sinking like ABD did, he would have retired with 50+ averages in both formats.

 

[Hasan123]

He was better than Kohli until 2015-2016 when age caught up to him. He's easily better than Dravid across formats and given his record, calling him the second-best ODI opener is no stretch. He's definitely a great batsman for all that he accomplished before 2015-2016. Had he run away when South Africa were sinking like ABD did, he would have retired with 50+ averages in both formats.

He was not better than Kohli in those years and most people would rate Dravid over him LOL.

I have followed nearly all of Amlas career, he has no business being compared with Kohli and Dravid. I don’t need your help to form an opinion on Amla.

Started a thread and let’s see who the majority agree with about your claims here.

 

[andy0204]

He was better than Kohli until 2015-2016 when age caught up to him. He's easily better than Dravid across formats and given his record, calling him the second-best ODI opener is no stretch. He's definitely a great batsman for all that he accomplished before 2015-2016. Had he run away when South Africa were sinking like ABD did, he would have retired with 50+ averages in both formats.

Kohli only failed in england 2014 otherwise he was consistent throughout

 

[Bilal7]

Kp actually averages more than amla

And Sangakkara averages more than Sachin. What's your point? Overall average can be pretty misleading in test cricket. Amla averages 70+ in the UAE, 60+ in both India and England, 45+ in Australia and just a bit below 50 in South Africa. He also has a century against a NZ attack led by Shane Bond in New Zealand and helped South Africa win a series for the first time in Sri Lanka. If you bring ODIs into the equation, Amla wipes the floor with KP.

 

[Bilal7]

He was not better than Kohli in those years and most people would rate Dravid over him LOL.

I have followed nearly all of Amlas career, he has no business being compared with Kohli and Dravid. I don’t need your help to form an opinion on Amla.

Started a thread and let’s see who the majority agree with about your claims here.

Amla was not better than Kohli before 2015? That's a laughable statement. All of Amla's greatest accomplishments took place before that year. What did Kohli do before 2015 that puts him on par with Amla?

 

[andy0204]

And Sangakkara averages more than Sachin. What's your point? Overall average can be pretty misleading in test cricket. Amla averages 70+ in the UAE, 60+ in both India and England, 45+ in Australia and just a bit below 50 in South Africa. He also has a century against a NZ attack led by Shane Bond in New Zealand and helped South Africa win a series for the first time in Sri Lanka. If you bring ODIs into the equation, Amla wipes the floor with KP.

South africa already won a test series in srilanka 1993 when keppler wessels was captain

 

[Bilal7]

Kohli only failed in england 2014 otherwise he was consistent throughout

Kohli was a good batsman before 2015 but clearly not the player he is now. Amla, meanwhile, had been the best batsman in the world for several years by that point.

 

[Bilal7]

South africa already won a test series in srilanka 1993 when keppler wessels was captain

First since readmission, I believe. Or something along those lines.

 

[andy0204]

Amla was not better than Kohli before 2015? That's a laughable statement. All of Amla's greatest accomplishments took place before that year. What did Kohli do before 2015 that puts him on par with Amla?

Scored centuries in australia,southafrica,newzealand except england,he was odi player of the year in 2012 something which amla couldnt achieve

 

[Bilal7]

Scored centuries in australia,southafrica,newzealand except england,he was odi player of the year in 2012 something which amla couldnt achieve

Like I said, the achievements of a good player but they pale in comparison to Amla's.

 

[SportsWarrior]

He was better than Kohli until 2015-2016 when age caught up to him. He's easily better than Dravid across formats and given his record, calling him the second-best ODI opener is no stretch. He's definitely a great batsman for all that he accomplished before 2015-2016. Had he run away when South Africa were sinking like ABD did, he would have retired with 50+ averages in both formats.

May be those wearing green tinted glasses will rate Amla over Dravid who got 10K runs in two format. In ODIs Dravid was also a wicket keeper for a considerable length of time providing more value than Amla. Even just as a batsman Dravid is comfortably better than Amla.

As a one day opener not only Rohit is better than Amla but so is Ganguly, who has close to 11k runs. Others who are better than Amla include Gayle, Gilchrist, Jayasurya and Saeed Anwar. All of them had more runs as openers and much better impact on the game. Amla is merely a very good batsman. No team ever feared him apart from few years during his purple patch. Even during his purple patch he did not win anything big for SA. Glichrist, Jayasurya won world cups for their teams, Saeed Anwar, and Ganguly took their teams to world cup finals

 

[anikrc1]

And Sangakkara averages more than Sachin. What's your point? Overall average can be pretty misleading in test cricket. Amla averages 70+ in the UAE, 60+ in both India and England, 45+ in Australia and just a bit below 50 in South Africa. He also has a century against a NZ attack led by Shane Bond in New Zealand and helped South Africa win a series for the first time in Sri Lanka. If you bring ODIs into the equation, Amla wipes the floor with KP.

Sachin's career was 24 years long. He debuted at 16 years, when amla was probably not even playing first class cricket
.he was no 1 in world ranking at 21 years age and at 37 years age. So don't try to compare sachin to amla . And a 19 year old sachin at his first world cup won 2 mom awards,and was selected in team of the tournament. So sachin's average is less than sanga because he has an abnormally long career. Is the same true in kp vs amla comparison?

 

[anikrc1]

Sachin's career was 24 years long. He debuted at 16 years, when amla was probably not even playing first class cricket
.he was no 1 in world ranking at 21 years age and at 37 years age. So don't try to compare sachin to amla . And a 19 year old sachin at his first world cup won 2 mom awards,and was selected in team of the tournament. So sachin's average is less than sanga because he has an abnormally long career. Is the same true in kp vs amla comparison?

By the I mentioned average only because someone said that amla is better than kp for many reasons including average. I actually don't care if someone rate amla more than kp. But what is absolutely not true is their is a level of difference between them. The first way I see it, amla is poor man's Sachin and kp is poor man's Lara. I choose Lara and kp, you can choose Sachin and Amla. But the difference between the respective pairs if any is miniscule