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Hassan Ali: The batsman

Better than faheem as a batsman and as a bowler. Slot Hasan at 9 and add Mohammad Amir into the team.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After facing only 16 balls, Hasan Ali became Pakistan's top scorer today <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1087708557951332352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is now Hasan Ali's highest ODI score - previous highest was 51 against New Zealand last year in Nelson <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1087715707368935426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shadab - are you watching this? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/x8dczitgc7">pic.twitter.com/x8dczitgc7</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1087717047189061632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hasan Ali "when I scored 50 it was a message for my very sweet friend Shadab Khan because I had told him that I will score a 50 on this tour" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1087718817936093185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The only bowler for me who gets into every team in the world for me specifically because of this firepower he adds with the bat
 
Better than faheem as a batsman and as a bowler. Slot Hasan at 9 and add Mohammad Amir into the team.

No you just need to swap their positions.

Hassan 9 and Faheem 10.

Boy is it a blessing to have guys who can bat all the way through!
 
If there’s one thing about Hasan - is that he’s a warrior.
 
No you just need to swap their positions.

Hassan 9 and Faheem 10.

Boy is it a blessing to have guys who can bat all the way through!

Why would you play Faheem? He brings nothing with the bat, there are better bowlers around. The only time it would be worth playing him is if he can bat, which he clearly can't.
 
I find it funny some people were calling to drop Hasan. Hasan has been Pakistan's best ODI cricketer for last 3 years.
 
He is currently looking a far better batsman than the all-rounder Faheem Ashraf.
 
This guy's awesome. Puts in the hard yards; he's a physical specimen and gives his all. Great knock today but let down by the captain. Either bats or bowls well, can be expensive and take wickets or just be economical.

Best Pakistani cricketer by far right now.
 
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I wouldn't have high expectations from Hasan Ali. The moment you start expecting runs from him as we did with Wahab Riaz, he will start failing with the bat.
 
I was watching on the sky sports app on my laptop then halfway through his innings it said I need to update it, so I missed most of the innings, didn't bother watching highlights as we lost the match :(
 
As today has shown, he's not a batsman, he's a bowler who can slog a few decent shots, much like Faheem. Will often come out with a great little cameo, but promoting up the order will usually fail.
 
Dont expect him to fluke it with the bat everytime. He is not a proper all rounder.
 
Really poor from PZ to send Wahab ahead of Hasan throughout PSL.
 
So much love for this guy. Fearless. His lower order hitting could be crucial in the World Cup.
 
Proper fearless Punjabi player with a good eye for hitting the ball as well as being a world class fast bowler.
 
Reminds me of Umar Gul and how he could hit a few every now and then.

Hasan Ali though, will never be the spearhead of the bowling attack like Gul never was.

Hasan Ali is perfect as a third choice bowler.
 
I feel that his batting is more beneficial to our team than his useless bowling.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hassan Ali last 3 innings:<br><br>9* off 3 balls - strike-rate of 300<br>32* off 11 balls - strike-rate of 290.90<br>20* off 7 balls - strike-rate of 285.71<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1380917885422477316?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2021</a></blockquote>
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A century in the QeA trophy final 2020, and showing his worth once again with the bat on this tour. His last 2 cameos have been match-winning.
 
He has more time, while facing deliveries, than some of our regular batsmen. Particularly enjoys batting in SA. We could have won had he been there with Fakhar in 2nd ODI.
 
He's a luxury number 9 but he should NOT be any higher than that in the default batting order.

Misbah and Waqar will add yet another blunder to their list if they think he's a number 8.
 
He definitely has ability with the bat. We know he can play big shots. In the last 2 games he has shown he can do a finishing job. If we are in a situation where he has to bat a longer period, I hope he doesn’t just hit big shots. I hope he plays according to the situation. But he is capable of being a good number 8.
 
He's a luxury number 9 but he should NOT be any higher than that in the default batting order.

Misbah and Waqar will add yet another blunder to their list if they think he's a number 8.

He is more of a #8 than Mohammad Nawaz or Shadab Khan ever will be in white ball cricket. His fast bat speed and powergame is essential to an otherwise weak lower order.
 
I know he is on a roll at the moment but I still dont have the confidence to back him at no.8.
 
Should be batting above Nawaz, who is a tailender

Nawaz is a genuine AR who averages 37 in FC with 6 centuries. He bats higher than Hassan unless the situation requires that he doesn't.

The problem with Saturday was that Nawaz was number 6 which is way too high. Nawaz is a number 8, Hassan should be 9.
 
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Guys just came across this interesting stat that signifies the impact of Hassan Ali's batting

Your thoughts?

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I think he's got the right batting abilities to be a good #8 in ODI (potential to be floated up the order to finish the last 5-6 overs too if a platform has been set). He can strike it cleanly and rotate ok, athletic runner.

Consistency is always going to be hard when you have the basher role but he can do it.

In Tests he can be an aggressive #8 too, or if he is at #9 then that's a pretty handy lower order.
 
Nawaz is a genuine AR who averages 37 in FC with 6 centuries. He bats higher than Hassan unless the situation requires that he doesn't.

The problem with Saturday was that Nawaz was number 6 which is way too high. Nawaz is a number 8, Hassan should be 9.

This isn't FC cricket, its T20I cricket. And in this format Hasan Ali has scored about as many runs in the last 2 games as Nawaz has in his entire T20I career. He also has an insane SR of 200.

As for Nawaz, an average of 8.5 and a SR of 91 is damning in this format. It shows that not only does he not score runs but he also wastes alot of balls.
 
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He is more of a #8 than Mohammad Nawaz or Shadab Khan ever will be in white ball cricket. His fast bat speed and powergame is essential to an otherwise weak lower order.

Agreed. Also has the guts to go after the bowling. Whereas Nawaz is a timid batsman while Shadab can easily get caught in a mental block. Case in point: 2018 Asia Cup match vs. Bangladesh.
 
My Pakistan Ideal XI

1. Rizwan (wk)
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Hafeez
5. Haider
6. Faheem
7. Hassan
8. Nawaz
9.Shadab
10. Shaheen
11. Rauf
 
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Guys just came across this interesting stat that signifies the impact of Hassan Ali's batting

Your thoughts?

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He is a good 9. He hits the ball and atm its coming off.
 
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Guys just came across this interesting stat that signifies the impact of Hassan Ali's batting

Your thoughts?

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He should bat at 9 and be brought up the order if its required.
 
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Guys just came across this interesting stat that signifies the impact of Hassan Ali's batting

Your thoughts?

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He’s an insane timer of the ball and could’ve been a genuine all rounder. But I think he should bat at 9 ideally. 8 is still too high. He would probably be the best number 9 in the world in limited overs. I rate him higher than Johnson with the bat who played a crazy good knock against India in the 2015 semi
 
I think that after these tours and maybe if there's time after the PSL, he could go work at the NHPC under professionals to develop some more shots, even if that makes him a leg-side hack or something, it's useful for us, especially if he can come in and tonk a few out of the park to bring momentum back in our favor.
 
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Guys just came across this interesting stat that signifies the impact of Hassan Ali's batting

Your thoughts?

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He's certainly an insane hitter and is quite good lower down the order. I'm interested to see how he handles a promotion up the order. It worked for Sohail Tanvir in CPL and Sunil Narine so why not Hassan?
 
Hypothetically if Pak players can be part of IPL, Hasan Ali will get the highest contract. Shaheen will be next in line.
 
My Pakistan Ideal XI

1. Rizwan (wk)
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Hafeez
5. Haider
6. Faheem
7. Hassan
8. Nawaz
9.Shadab
10. Shaheen
11. Rauf

How about this ...
1. Rizwan
2. Sharjeel
3. Babar
4. Fakhar
5. Hafeez
6. Haider
7. Imad/ Shadab/Nawaz
8. Hassan
9. Salman
10. Shaheen
11. Rauf/ Hasnain
 
How about this ...
1. Rizwan
2. Sharjeel
3. Babar
4. Fakhar
5. Hafeez
6. Haider
7. Imad/ Shadab/Nawaz
8. Hassan
9. Salman
10. Shaheen
11. Rauf/ Hasnain

Looks like Babar+Rizwan opening combo is here to stay now.

1. Rizwan
2. Babar
3. Fakhar
4. Hafeez
5. Haider
6. Imad
7. Faheem
8. Nawaz
9. Hassan
10. Shaheen
11. Rauf

12. Shadab
13.
 
Hasan's ideal for 8. His big hitting isn't going to come off all the time to send him up any higher.
 
He needs to work on his defence.

He’s too short to ever become a Test class bowler. Long term he will average 35 with the ball, but his economy rate will always be poor.

This means that Hasan Ali will only ever be the fourth seamer in SENA or the third quick (with two spinners at home).

That means he needs to last an hour at the crease EVERY SINGLE TIME he comes out to bat in Tests. His primary job is to come out at Number 8 and last 40 balls with the bat every time he comes out, and score 25 while the Top Seven batsman at the other end also scores 25.

If all he can do is slog then I wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole.

His job is to be part of a one hour long partnership to add 40-50 runs and ensure that whoever has just taken the sixth wicket is out of the attack before the seventh wicket falls.

Smashing 30 off 12 balls in the first innings followed by a second ball duck on the second innings is completely useless, and leaves the team without a wagging tail.

I was heartened by Hasan Ali’s QEA century, but even that was just a slogfest.

He needs to learn to defend and he needs to develop some patience. Otherwise he will just be a complete waste of space like Shahid Afridi.
 
He needs to work on his defence.

He’s too short to ever become a Test class bowler. Long term he will average 35 with the ball, but his economy rate will always be poor.

This means that Hasan Ali will only ever be the fourth seamer in SENA or the third quick (with two spinners at home).

That means he needs to last an hour at the crease EVERY SINGLE TIME he comes out to bat in Tests. His primary job is to come out at Number 8 and last 40 balls with the bat every time he comes out, and score 25 while the Top Seven batsman at the other end also scores 25.

If all he can do is slog then I wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole.

His job is to be part of a one hour long partnership to add 40-50 runs and ensure that whoever has just taken the sixth wicket is out of the attack before the seventh wicket falls.

Smashing 30 off 12 balls in the first innings followed by a second ball duck on the second innings is completely useless, and leaves the team without a wagging tail.

I was heartened by Hasan Ali’s QEA century, but even that was just a slogfest.

He needs to learn to defend and he needs to develop some patience. Otherwise he will just be a complete waste of space like Shahid Afridi.

In couple of years time you will have a problem with his age and you will start hyping up some random kid from domestic to replace him.
 
Looks like Babar+Rizwan opening combo is here to stay now.

1. Rizwan
2. Babar
3. Fakhar
4. Hafeez
5. Haider
6. Imad
7. Faheem
8. Nawaz
9. Hassan
10. Shaheen
11. Rauf

12. Shadab
13.

Faheem, Rauf haven't cemented thier place in the team, need more options I am not too convinced...

Haider goes in for his potential alone
 
Currently playing a brilliant and vital late cameo for Islamabad in this virtual semi-final.

He's 34 from just 13 balls, after the top and middle order crumbled.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The brilliance of Hassan Ali:<br><br>. . 4 6 4 6 1 1 4 . 2 4 2 6 4 1<br><br>45 runs<br>16 balls<br>5 fours<br>3 sixes<br>Strike-rate of 281.25<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL6?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL6</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IUvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IUvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/e6Y5rDklUT">pic.twitter.com/e6Y5rDklUT</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1407399286397149188?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 22, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Game changing stuff today with some brutal hitting.
 
Should be tried in the Sunil Narine role. His timing and bat speed are impeccable.
 
He needs to work on his defence.

He’s too short to ever become a Test class bowler. Long term he will average 35 with the ball, but his economy rate will always be poor.

This means that Hasan Ali will only ever be the fourth seamer in SENA or the third quick (with two spinners at home).

That means he needs to last an hour at the crease EVERY SINGLE TIME he comes out to bat in Tests. His primary job is to come out at Number 8 and last 40 balls with the bat every time he comes out, and score 25 while the Top Seven batsman at the other end also scores 25.

If all he can do is slog then I wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole.

His job is to be part of a one hour long partnership to add 40-50 runs and ensure that whoever has just taken the sixth wicket is out of the attack before the seventh wicket falls.

Smashing 30 off 12 balls in the first innings followed by a second ball duck on the second innings is completely useless, and leaves the team without a wagging tail.

I was heartened by Hasan Ali’s QEA century, but even that was just a slogfest.

He needs to learn to defend and he needs to develop some patience. Otherwise he will just be a complete waste of space like Shahid Afridi.

Afridi averaged 36 with the bat in Test cricket and played one of the best centuries of the 90s in Chennai test.
 
Honestly, Hassan Ali should be played as a bowling all rounder, that would mean we won’t have to play Faheem Ashraf, who’s in the team as an all rounder.

This would also allow us to play an extra seamer, someone who can takeover Hasan Ali’s spot as a bowler.

Our bowling attack could look like this for ODI’s in SENA:

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Mohammad Rizwan
6. Imad Wasim
7. Hassan Ali
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Shahnawaz Dahani/Mohammad Amir
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Usman Qadir

I really can’t think of a stronger Pakistan xi, and with Hassan Ali playing as an all rounder it balances the team out. We have 6 bowling options (4 pacers, 1 specialist spinner, 1 part time spinner), and we bat down to 8.
 
Honestly, Hassan Ali should be played as a bowling all rounder, that would mean we won’t have to play Faheem Ashraf, who’s in the team as an all rounder.

This would also allow us to play an extra seamer, someone who can takeover Hasan Ali’s spot as a bowler.

Our bowling attack could look like this for ODI’s in SENA:

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Mohammad Rizwan
6. Imad Wasim
7. Hassan Ali
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Shahnawaz Dahani/Mohammad Amir
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Usman Qadir

I really can’t think of a stronger Pakistan xi, and with Hassan Ali playing as an all rounder it balances the team out. We have 6 bowling options (4 pacers, 1 specialist spinner, 1 part time spinner), and we bat down to 8.

Lmao where did wahab come from? And ive been saying this for 2 years now hassan isa solid bat and should be the sole allrounder over faheem in the team.

Wahab is like 40, his time is done.
 
Lmao where did wahab come from? And ive been saying this for 2 years now hassan isa solid bat and should be the sole allrounder over faheem in the team.

Wahab is like 40, his time is done.

With Wahab Riaz in the team, our lower order batting will be even stronger. Hassan and Wahab have the ability to build a 50-80 run partnership. Wahab Riaz can reverse the ball, is there any other bowler in Pakistan that can do it who isn’t already in my xi?

If we have a stronger lower order it means our top order can play with a lot more freedom.

Who do you think should be in for Wahab?
 
With Wahab Riaz in the team, our lower order batting will be even stronger. Hassan and Wahab have the ability to build a 50-80 run partnership. Wahab Riaz can reverse the ball, is there any other bowler in Pakistan that can do it who isn’t already in my xi?

If we have a stronger lower order it means our top order can play with a lot more freedom.

Who do you think should be in for Wahab?

Odi and reverse swing?
Wahab will give you 1 good performance in 4 matches if your lucky
 
He's good enough to bat at 9 and maybe at 8 or if thiers limited overs remaining
 
This guy is some player - one of the very few X-factor players we have.

Was expensive in bowling tonight but probably felt a tad sorry for the opposition after the epic phainty he dished out.
 
Odi and reverse swing?
Wahab will give you 1 good performance in 4 matches if your lucky

Every team needs a bowler who can bowl 90mph+, Pakistan has only 2 players who can take Wahab’s spot, that’s Hasnain and Rauf. Neither can bat, so our lower order batting will be weaker. Both get smashed all around the park, just like Wahab, but at least Wahab has some variations.

I think we should be focusing more on the batting and less on the bowling, Hassan Ali, Shaheen Afridi, Shahnawaz Dahani are all capable of bowling an opposition out, we won’t be heavily reliant on Wahab. Playing Wahab in the team will strengthen our batting, playing Hasnain or Rauf instead will make our tail longer. Whatever amount of runs Wahab leaks with the ball he can easily get back 50% of those with the bat.
 
We can't make the same mistake like with Shadab Khan by trying to turn him into an all rounder... it just makes your bowling worse and suddenly you cant perform with bat or ball.

Just let him be a full time bowler capable of an occasional six or two, nothing more.
 
Every team needs a bowler who can bowl 90mph+, Pakistan has only 2 players who can take Wahab’s spot, that’s Hasnain and Rauf. Neither can bat, so our lower order batting will be weaker. Both get smashed all around the park, just like Wahab, but at least Wahab has some variations.

I think we should be focusing more on the batting and less on the bowling, Hassan Ali, Shaheen Afridi, Shahnawaz Dahani are all capable of bowling an opposition out, we won’t be heavily reliant on Wahab. Playing Wahab in the team will strengthen our batting, playing Hasnain or Rauf instead will make our tail longer. Whatever amount of runs Wahab leaks with the ball he can easily get back 50% of those with the bat.

Both shaheen and Hassan bowl close to 90mph. Pluss Hassan likes to come in on first change and so does wahab.i belive wahab is close to 35 he doesn't have much years left.wahab can strike the ball but he can only do that if their is limited overs avaliable.
 
Hassan Ali speaking in an interview:

"I always wanted to become an all-rounder, and I am happy that besides my bowling, I am also contributing to the team with my batting. While I was away from cricket for two years due to injury, I worked on my batting especially the power-hitting ability"
 
Hassan Ali birthday today and he got a nice gift. Promotion in central contract.
Congrats for the promotion and best wishes on his birthday
 
He is a one dimensional batsman who is at his best when he has to strike from ball one. In a situation where the wicket is tricky, assisting the spinners, pacers or a world class bowler operating or if the match, team situation requires him to grind and stay solid while supporting a set proper batsman at the other end, not sure if he has the defensive technique or aptitude for it.

To be considered a reliable proper batsman, he has to show more dimensions to his game with the bat. Wahab as a batsman fell in the same category as well.
 
Hassan Ali should bat at 9 I do think he has a good technique for a lower order batter.
 
Should Hasan Ali bat above Shadab Khan and Faheem Ashraf in white ball cricket?

Hasan Ali clearly seems a better hitter than Shadab and Faheem. His S/R is extraordinary. So isn't Pak wasting him by batting him so low?
 
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