Have Pakistan make a mistake by dropping Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan from Asia Cup 2025 squad?

[GudduBadmash]

Babar is a class ODI player. Not a natural hitter suited for T20's.

Rizwan may not be a hitter like Babar, but he definitely looks better than Mohammad Harris. A better keeper and a better batsman.

Rizwan has the record most sixes in international T20 for Pakistan

 

[mominsaigol]

Ye thora ziada ho gia hai. Hassan Nawaz hasn't been tested by a 145+ kph bowler yet. Babar was immensely talented.

Babar always struggled against pace as well even during his early days.

People keep highlighting his performances against starc and many other during his under 15 to under 19 days not realising the starc, Rabada and many others who bowled to him were no where near the level that they are at now.

Starc took the world by storm in 2014-2015 as did Steve smith since unlike Warner who was the greatest talent before debut, people viewed starc and Steve smith as just decent to good player.

No one imagined what would have occurred with one becoming one of the greatest test players of all time and the other having the greatest bowling career with 4 tournament wins, Multiple ashes wins and the greatest pink ball figures in history.

Babar during his younger years was avg 41 in FC, 55 in List A and 40 in T20 and his sr was the 2nd lowest amounts his group. Infact babar was 2nd fiddle to sami Aslam at the time who avg 50+ in both list A and fc with 100+ sr in list A. And we know what happened to sami aslam.

Babar's under 15-under 19 figures are the exact same as his international numbers ironically.

Hasan Nawaz Has raw power something babar never had.

 

[GreenKhan]

Rizwan has the record most sixes in international T20 for Pakistan

that does not mean anything- For example hes hit 16 more sixers that Fakhar zaman, whos faced 1000 less balls.
Context is very important.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Let the new team get more chance to prove their mettle before making conclusions after a couple of series

 

[zahid01]

Let the new team get more chance to prove their mettle before making conclusions after a couple of series

What new team hassan nawaz is only newcomer rest recycled rubbish riz and babar were never t20 players they never even tried to adopt and change their game or move down to different positions to explore ways to make team more successful they just wanted to open at all cost put their own interests first then the teams interest.

 

[Greenstorm]

Babar always struggled against pace as well even during his early days.

People keep highlighting his performances against starc and many other during his under 15 to under 19 days not realising the starc, Rabada and many others who bowled to him were no where near the level that they are at now.

Starc took the world by storm in 2014-2015 as did Steve smith since unlike Warner who was the greatest talent before debut, people viewed starc and Steve smith as just decent to good player.

No one imagined what would have occurred with one becoming one of the greatest test players of all time and the other having the greatest bowling career with 4 tournament wins, Multiple ashes wins and the greatest pink ball figures in history.

Babar during his younger years was avg 41 in FC, 55 in List A and 40 in T20 and his sr was the 2nd lowest amounts his group. Infact babar was 2nd fiddle to sami Aslam at the time who avg 50+ in both list A and fc with 100+ sr in list A. And we know what happened to sami aslam.

Babar's under 15-under 19 figures are the exact same as his international numbers ironically.

Hasan Nawaz Has raw power something babar never had.

Talent, technique and power are three different aspects of a batsman's game. Hassan Nawaz has power but you compared his talent with Babar. My understanding of talent, in case of batsmen, is their ability to pick the length early specially against decent pace. This is natural ability and couldn't be improved much even with hardwork. An example of such talentless hardworker is Shan Masood.

Babar along with Akmal family is blessed with this talent and it was visible at a young age. Saim Ayub is blessed with talent and one could see that even in his u16 days !

So far Hassan Nawaz has shown his power game against spin but I have yet to see him dominating a 140+ kph pacer. Therefore, I am reserving that judgement.

 

[Sachin fan]

that does not mean anything- For example hes hit 16 more sixers that Fakhar zaman, whos faced 1000 less balls.
Context is very important.

Where did you get 1000 number from? Fakhar has played only 6 matches less than Rizwan.

 

[Devadwal]

Where did you get 1000 number from? Fakhar has played only 6 matches less than Rizwan.

Rizwan ball faced - 2723,% Of team runs scored - 21.92
Four - 279, sixes - 95

Fakhar ball faced - 1521, % of team runs scored - 13.1%
Four - 188, sixes - 80

 

[BouncerGuy]

NO. There was no mistakes made here... RIzbabar were poor in t20s and they got dropped rightly... But the same thing is happening with other players now as well... When are we gonna talk about dropping them?

 

[Sachin fan]

Rizwan ball faced - 2723,% Of team runs scored - 21.92
Four - 279, sixes - 95

Fakhar ball faced - 1521, % of team runs scored - 13.1%
Four - 188, sixes - 80

So basically the 1000 balls difference is because Fakhar cannot stay at the crease and gets out.

 

[Greenstorm]

So basically the 1000 balls difference is because Fakhar cannot stay at the crease and gets out.

Fakhar can easily play a 50 (42) type innings but he chooses to play for the team.

 

[Sachin fan]

Fakhar can easily play a 50 (42) type innings but he chooses to play for the team.

But most of his innings are slower than Rizbar. Look at his strike rate in last couple of years. Look at his dot ball % shown above.

And then he gets out too.

 

[Greenstorm]

But most of his innings are slower than Rizbar. Look at his strike rate in last couple of years. And then he gets out too.

Not true. He had sr of 153 in T20Is in 2024.
Sr of 152 in PSL 2025. (2nd highest scorer).
He is in team on merit. Just needs to perform regularly.

 

[Devadwal]

Not true. He had sr of 153 in T20Is in 2024.
Sr of 152 in PSL 2025. (2nd highest scorer).
He is in team on merit. Just needs to perform regularly.

Fakhar performance in World T20 2024

M-4 ,runs - 33 , strike rate - 110

Shaheen Afridi

M-4 , Runs -36 strike rate - 163

Shadab khan

M-4. Runs - 44 , strike rate -129

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan fans blamed Rizwan ,Babar , Aamir , Rauf , chacha, imad etc for Pakistan poor performance in World T20 2024 but no body talk about Zaman. But he was total failure in that tournament.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Pakistan fans blamed Rizwan ,Babar , Aamir , Rauf , chacha, imad etc for Pakistan poor performance in World T20 2024 but no body talk about Zaman. But he was total failure in that tournament.

Fakhar has a special pass for such things.

 

[Greenstorm]

Fakhar performance in World T20 2024

M-4 ,runs - 33 , strike rate - 110

Shaheen Afridi

M-4 , Runs -36 strike rate - 163

Shadab khan

M-4. Runs - 44 , strike rate -129

Both Babar and Fakhar played T20s after that WC. Fakhar performed while others didn't as aforementioned stats have proven.

 

[GudduBadmash]

that does not mean anything- For example hes hit 16 more sixers that Fakhar zaman, whos faced 1000 less balls.
Context is very important.

Fakhar doesn't survive long enough

 

[GudduBadmash]

Fakhar has a special pass for such things.

He plays for Lahore Qalandars so their fans will defend him till their grave. If he ever leaves for another club watch this agenda suddenly vanish from the forums

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan is struggling against UAE in the 6th match of tri series.

Currently 80/5 in 12 overs.

Should Pakistan change the team before Asia cup ?

 

[RyanRyan10]

Pakistan is struggling against UAE in the 6th match of tri series.

Currently 80/5 in 12 overs.

Should Pakistan change the team before Asia cup ?

No

They got to 171 even after such poor start

 

[Devadwal]

No

They got to 171 even after such poor start

Lol I have seen the match. They scored because of UAE pathetic fielding and tulla knock (edges abd dropped catches) of fakhar.

Pagal kisi or ko Banana ok.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Lol I have seen the match. They scored because of UAE pathetic fielding and tulla knock (edges abd dropped catches) of fakhar.

Pagal kisi or ko Banana ok.

Classical batsmanship of Babar cost Pakistan a T20 WC match against the USA

 

[Devadwal]

Classical batsmanship of Babar cost Pakistan a T20 WC match against the USA

Today would have no difference if UAE fielding was better. 107/7 hota to 130 tak ni bante intent merchent se

 

[RyanRyan10]

Today would have no difference if UAE fielding was better. 107/7 hota to 130 tak ni bante intent merchent se

If else doesn't count

 

[Devadwal]

If else doesn't count

Yes only count in the case of babar/ Rizwan

 

[RyanRyan10]

Yes only count in the case of babar/ Rizwan

Kuch bhi? Pak lost to USA with them in the XI.

 

[Devadwal]

Kuch bhi? Pak lost to USA with them in the XI.

But they have won a world cup game against India which no other Pakistani team has won in the history of world Cup's .

 

[Usman Chadda]

But they have won a world cup game against India which no other Pakistani team has won in the history of world Cup's .

Kuch bhi? You are saying both are better than the likes of Saeed Anwar and Inzamam?

 

[Devadwal]

Kuch bhi? You are saying both are better than the likes of Saeed Anwar and Inzamam?

I didn't said they are better than Anwar/ Inzi but rizwan is clearly better than Haris and Babar is better than Farhan