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"He is Mohammed Siraj and this is what the national anthem means to him" : Mohammad Kaif

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The first day's play at SCG was well and truly over after Australia negotiated 55 overs on rain-hit Sydney, but Mohammed Siraj's emotions continued to play out late in the night as Indians deem it fit to discuss his religion, tears and late father.

When India's National Anthem was being played out before the start of the third Test, Siraj got teary-eyed. He then carried on, claiming one of the two wickets that India managed to take, that of David Warner in the fourth over to give his team an early breakthrough.

With intermittent rain playing hide and seek, play at the iconic SCG got affected and there were multiple stoppages. All this while, Indian fans invoked Siraj's religion and reacted to comments made by former players and celebrities.

And one particular tweet, shared by former India cricketer Mohammad Kaif, itself became a talking point.

https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...n-mohammed-siraj-stirs-up-hornets-nest/369797
 
Do Indian Muslims need to try this hard to show their patriotism?
 
Siraj himself said he got emotional as his father had passed away
 
Unfortunate thing is despite all this, The replies to Kaif’s tweet are still filled with Islamophobic comments and comments attacking Muslims in general.

I don’t think any outward display of patriotism would change the mind of those who have been brainwashed by their politicians and media.
 
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I hope he did not cry due to National anthem but got emotional due to his Dad passing away. Nobody needs to show their patriotism in public.
 
An Indian got emotional due to playing of the national anthem. Ssme happened to him during his T20 debut.

Suddenly pakistanis seem to think this is forced on Indian Muslims.

I guess some people dont understand how nationalism holds a nation as religion holds theirs.
 
An Indian got emotional due to playing of the national anthem. Ssme happened to him during his T20 debut.

Suddenly pakistanis seem to think this is forced on Indian Muslims.

I guess some people dont understand how nationalism holds a nation as religion holds theirs.

If he cried during his T20 debut too, then it means he got emotional thinking about what he achieved considering his humble beginnings.
 
The burden of patriotism is always on muslims. I am glad I belong to the majority religion.
 
If he can cry at will he should go to Bollywood, not cricket.
 
So he got emotional during his debut innings, that's surely due to his debut.

He got emotional because his dad passed away, very understandable.

Why must everything be about his religion? Why must Muslims police other Muslims so much? Please take a break.
 
Ahh no need to bring his religion into this. Hearing the national anthem being played for you is a big deal. There are bloody rugby players who've teared up on such occasions.

I mean he is among 11 out of a billion people getting a chance to play Test cricket for his country, thinking about where he has come from and the role his father played in him getting there...its been a journey and then some.
 
Its not his crying that is the issue

The point is why the need for kaif to highlight sirajs loyalty to india

This should be a given no?
 
Its not his crying that is the issue

The point is why the need for kaif to highlight sirajs loyalty to india

This should be a given no?

True, that's a much better point than others are making. That does seem a bit too virtue signal-ly to me.
 
An Indian got emotional due to playing of the national anthem. Ssme happened to him during his T20 debut.

Suddenly pakistanis seem to think this is forced on Indian Muslims.

I guess some people dont understand how nationalism holds a nation as religion holds theirs.

The player himself said he cried due to his dad passing way. Why forcefully drag nationalism in everything?

India vs Australia: ‘I just remembered my father,’ Mohammed Siraj explains why he became emotional during national anthem at SCG

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...them-at-scg/story-cDDrC2kx0EtSgJlxS6izuI.html

BTW it isn’t just Pakistani, just read the Twitter comments by Indians to see what they thought of Kaif’s post.
 
Its not his crying that is the issue

The point is why the need for kaif to highlight sirajs loyalty to india

This should be a given no?

A wise man once said “Muslims who are opposing Pakistan will spend rest of their lives proving loyalty to India”

Guess he was right.
 
I think people need to stop extrapolating, saw this in the match thread too.

Maybe he was crying due to patriotism.

Maybe he was crying due to sheer emotion from finally being able to represent his country on an international level.

Maybe he was crying due for some other reason

It’s nobody’s business but his, and if he wants to share it, he should feel free to.

Kaif or anybody else doesn’t have the right to use this to show everything is okay in India with Muslims and Hindus nor is it okay to use this as a tool to show Muslims are forced to kiss up with patriotism. Stop thinking so much about these things... the people who read so much into such stuff and post about it are the ones with insecurities to seek validation by their countrymen or validation from other people in general.
 
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Unfortunate thing is despite all this, The replies to Kaif’s tweet are still filled with Islamophobic comments and comments attacking Muslims in general.

I don’t think any outward display of patriotism would change the mind of those who have been brainwashed by their politicians and media.
Iam sure if PP were unmoderated like twitter and other SM some of the replies here would have received the similar kind of reaction,i think people using those platforms are not scared to express their opinions despite knowing it's not a place for civilised discussion and the kind of reaction they will receive from certain sections
 
An Indian got emotional due to playing of the national anthem. Ssme happened to him during his T20 debut.

Suddenly pakistanis seem to think this is forced on Indian Muslims.

I guess some people dont understand how nationalism holds a nation as religion holds theirs.

Evidently your comprehension needs work.

It is not the Pakistanis thinking it is forced on indian muslims but the fact that Kaif highlighted his religion and his loyalty to india.

It insinuates that a point to be made here which is the loyalty of Indian muslims constantly needs to be proven.

If Ashwin cried would his religion be highlighted?
 
The player himself said he cried due to his dad passing way. Why forcefully drag nationalism in everything?

India vs Australia: ‘I just remembered my father,’ Mohammed Siraj explains why he became emotional during national anthem at SCG

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...them-at-scg/story-cDDrC2kx0EtSgJlxS6izuI.html

BTW it isn’t just Pakistani, just read the Twitter comments by Indians to see what they thought of Kaif’s post.

Exactly. This isn't the first time he was representing India so I don't think patriotism has anything to do with it. May be it was his father's dream to see him play for Indian test team and he got emotional thinking about that. :inti
 
The one who we should pity is Mohammad Kaif.

He is mistaking Siraj's emotions for his late father as something totally different and using it to get validation for muslims from the hindu majority. Shows his insecurity as an Indian muslim and that's sad.
 
The one who we should pity is Mohammad Kaif.

He is mistaking Siraj's emotions for his late father as something totally different and using it to get validation for muslims from the hindu majority. Shows his insecurity as an Indian muslim and that's sad.

You are right but I won't blame Kaif. Muslims in India have to keep proving themselves and their patriotism. With this tweet, Kaif doesn't have to tweet anything related to patriotism in 2021. His life is set. :inti
 
The one who we should pity is Mohammad Kaif.

He is mistaking Siraj's emotions for his late father as something totally different and using it to get validation for muslims from the hindu majority. Shows his insecurity as an Indian muslim and that's sad.

I think it is good and all indian muslims should openly show their patriotism. Will reduce the trust deficit and we hindus will not see them with suspicion and will welcome them with open arms. It also shows we indians are secular and don't see religion if the person is patriotic.
 
The one who we should pity is Mohammad Kaif.

He is mistaking Siraj's emotions for his late father as something totally different and using it to get validation for muslims from the hindu majority. Shows his insecurity as an Indian muslim and that's sad.
Kaif is a habitual offender in this regard, always overeager to please RW trolls.
 
Its Kaif again, was he bullied by the Saffron brigade as a child.

Poor chap must be having nightmares his cow may be stolen, so needs to reguarly show his patriotism towards the BJP.
 
The player himself said he cried due to his dad passing way. Why forcefully drag nationalism in everything?

India vs Australia: ‘I just remembered my father,’ Mohammed Siraj explains why he became emotional during national anthem at SCG

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...them-at-scg/story-cDDrC2kx0EtSgJlxS6izuI.html

BTW it isn’t just Pakistani, just read the Twitter comments by Indians to see what they thought of Kaif’s post.

Kaif tried a pathetic political spin.
 
Kaif, like all the major public figures in India (who has a need and level of hero worship unparalleled in the world), feel the need to score points with the current regime.

If it was a one-off incident, like in the past, it would be solito negotium, but it’s happened and is happening far too likely to be a mere coincidence.
 
I can understand a rookie player got emotional during national anthem , as his dream to represent his country became a reality but I hate when people try to relate every thing to religion. It was an idiotic tweet from Kaif, he is some sort of a dumb guy.
 
The fact that he needs to say this and point it out really says it all.
 
What choice does Kaif have. The majority of his countrymen want him to go to Pakistan
 
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A wise man once said “Muslims who are opposing Pakistan will spend rest of their lives proving loyalty to India”

Guess he was right.

What I am saying has nothing to do with Siraj’s situation but why is that statement so surreal?

In the history of the Indian subcontinent, there have been many home grown philosophies and religions like Hinduism,Jainism,Buddhism,Sikhism etc.

Then there were foreign religions like Judaism and Zoroastrianism that took refuge in India to escape persecution ( wonder from which religion)

Then we had religions brought in by Invaders like Islam and Christianity.

Of all the religions in India, the only time the Subcontinent saw one of the biggest mass migration in human history resulting in permenant displacement, loss of human lives, properties etc on both sides due to seperate statehood for “Muslims” because of the viewpoint “Islam” is not compatible to co exist with other religions as a minority.

So yeah, May be Muslims in India unfortunately might have to make that extra effort. When Brahmins can still be made fun of or criticized for discrimination etc that existed over a 100 years ago or things like white guilt etc exist in this world , then not sure why there can’t be some natural bias against Muslims? I am not justifying bias though but unfortunately you have to try harder to overcome stereotypes.

In case of guys like Siraj,Sami etc, When you become an achiever like them and make something of your life , you are already a patriot and a national icon. On topic though I just think Siraj is a energetic and patriotic young man and a little over emotional in general based on his demeanor on field.

In fact not just me but majority of Indians would take Abdul Kalam as the greatest Indian in the last 2 centuries even over Mahatma Gandhi. It’s not about religion but what kind of a person you are.
 
What I am saying has nothing to do with Siraj’s situation but why is that statement so surreal?

In the history of the Indian subcontinent, there have been many home grown philosophies and religions like Hinduism,Jainism,Buddhism,Sikhism etc.

Then there were foreign religions like Judaism and Zoroastrianism that took refuge in India to escape persecution ( wonder from which religion)

Then we had religions brought in by Invaders like Islam and Christianity.

Of all the religions in India, the only time the Subcontinent saw one of the biggest mass migration in human history resulting in permenant displacement, loss of human lives, properties etc on both sides due to seperate statehood for “Muslims” because of the viewpoint “Islam” is not compatible to co exist with other religions as a minority.

So yeah, May be Muslims in India unfortunately might have to make that extra effort. When Brahmins can still be made fun of or criticized for discrimination etc that existed over a 100 years ago or things like white guilt etc exist in this world , then not sure why there can’t be some natural bias against Muslims? I am not justifying bias though but unfortunately you have to try harder to overcome stereotypes.

In case of guys like Siraj,Sami etc, When you become an achiever like them and make something of your life , you are already a patriot and a national icon. On topic though I just think Siraj is a energetic and patriotic young man and a little over emotional in general based on his demeanor on field.

In fact not just me but majority of Indians would take Abdul Kalam as the greatest Indian in the last 2 centuries even over Mahatma Gandhi. It’s not about religion but what kind of a person you are.

After the demonisation of Muslims by the Ind elite that has lasted over 2 decades, I am still amazed at the Muslims loyalty to a state that hates them. We had a Muslim lad from Hyderabad Ind, at our school and his support for Ind baffled me. Why would you support a country that thinks you are loyal.
 
I think he was crying because he was reminded of his late father. I also think that people here should understand that Indian Muslims see themselves Indian and take great pride in their Indian identity while detesting the notion of being told to "Go back to Pakistan" by extremist Hindus.

While I think it is true that people like Kaif and other Indian Muslims that are in the public eye (including actors) have to regularly prove their patriotism at the risk of being labelled a certain way, I don't think that is the case for average Indian Muslims who just want to get on with their lives.
 
After the demonisation of Muslims by the Ind elite that has lasted over 2 decades, I am still amazed at the Muslims loyalty to a state that hates them. We had a Muslim lad from Hyderabad Ind, at our school and his support for Ind baffled me. Why would you support a country that thinks you are loyal.

Muslims in India are treated like African Americans were before the civil rights movements.
 
After the demonisation of Muslims by the Ind elite that has lasted over 2 decades, I am still amazed at the Muslims loyalty to a state that hates them. We had a Muslim lad from Hyderabad Ind, at our school and his support for Ind baffled me. Why would you support a country that thinks you are loyal.

A lot of Muslims are part of that “Indian Elite” be it businessmen, politicians or entertainers.

Stop getting your information from Sunday or Friday school
 
Malcolm DSP Siraj Donald is giving his all for Bharat. He’s bowled really well today. Good pace, great energy, great rhythm. Salute

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