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Highest number of washouts in a Cricket World Cup

And England stadiums have the poorest draining capability and the groundsmen are least skilled
In fact, english grounds have the best drainage and most skilled groundsman in the world. The problem is we have more rain(outside of monsoons) and unpredictable weather than any of the other major cricketing nations.
 
ECB has preferred the Ashes over the World Cup which is why the former will be held in July/August when the weather tends to be good

Screw ECB and screw the Ashes!
 
ECB has preferred the Ashes over the World Cup which is why the former will be held in July/August when the weather tends to be good

Screw ECB and screw the Ashes!
People keep saying this but theres little truth in it. Wc started may 31, the last day of may, so the tourney is basically in june/july.
Historically l, theres not much difference in the weather in june, july, august. These are our summe months. They can be warm and dry or they can be wet. The ashes will run into september, where the weather, historically, is alot worse!
 
The most number of washouts in a single world cup stands at 2 which happened in 1992 and in 1980 something.

How many washouts are going to happen this year??
Looks like it will be a lot more than 2.

I remember there were a few in the 1999 world cup. Can you correct me on that
 
In fact, english grounds have the best drainage and most skilled groundsman in the world. The problem is we have more rain(outside of monsoons) and unpredictable weather than any of the other major cricketing nations.

Sorry, I don't agree. Our Mirpur stadium is lot better than these English stadiums. I have seen it multiple times that it rained in torrents for 2-3 consequative hours and the stadium was ready and play underwent just after 1 hour . Whereas in the match between Pakistan and Srilanka rain stayed away for 2 hours with sun coming out still the match was abandoned. I was just astonished One of Srilanka's stadium ( Colombo/ premadasa ) holds the same speedy water drainage like our Mirpur.
 
It's not perfect but if you match is played fully and you lose, it's your own fault. Every team should have the opportunity to gain two points whether it's winning in a match played or an abandoned match. Currently only teams are being disadvantaged due to rain not due to playing in the sun.

It is a disadvantage due to geography. Most rain is in the north or in the west. So matches in Taunton, Manchester Cardiff are gonna be washouts. Least rain is in London. Matches at oval may go ahead this week. Our matches, all of them this week will be washouts according to forecast. So India or Australia would expect to beat us to get 2 points but settle for 1. Hopefully we will play lower ranked teams in London ...
 
I am glad India is a cricket superpower now, hopefully we don't see another WC in England for next 20 years. England can keep playing Ashes in the rain, the WC should be hosted in better places.
 
It is a disadvantage due to geography. Most rain is in the north or in the west. So matches in Taunton, Manchester Cardiff are gonna be washouts. Least rain is in London. Matches at oval may go ahead this week. Our matches, all of them this week will be washouts according to forecast. So India or Australia would expect to beat us to get 2 points but settle for 1. Hopefully we will play lower ranked teams in London ...
Depends on wind direction and which direction the rain clouds are coming from.
 
Sorry, I don't agree. Our Mirpur stadium is lot better than these English stadiums. I have seen it multiple times that it rained in torrents for 2-3 consequative hours and the stadium was ready and play underwent just after 1 hour . Whereas in the match between Pakistan and Srilanka rain stayed away for 2 hours with sun coming out still the match was abandoned. I was just astonished One of Srilanka's stadium ( Colombo/ premadasa ) holds the same speedy water drainage like our Mirpur.
The rain didnt stay away for 2 hours, there was constant drizzle. After the game was callef off the weather slowly improved, but it was too late by then.
Good to hear mirpur has good drainage, all grounds should have these days.
 
Hosting the world cup in England from the end of May is asking for trouble really. July and August can be wet at times too, however you are much more likely to have drier days. They should have at least started at the end of June even if that means pushing the Ashes back a bit.
 
Depends on wind direction and which direction the rain clouds are coming from.

There’s a weather front well forecasted and shown daily here in uk. Most of the west coast has continuous rain showers all week. London just about escapes it and then it moves across to northers France. There’s gonna be very little cricket played this week. Already the Sri Lanka match is delayed by rain in Bristol. It’s unlikely to happen. Which means these teams gain a point when you’d expect one to end with no points and move to bottom of table.

Presumably our match with South Africa will go ahead if we lose we get zero points but teams with NR continuously due to matches in the west of the country will be ahead just on the rain rules so it’s become a bit of a gamble.

Just remember how easy it is to skew these final outcomes. In 2003 a forfeited match allowed Kenya to get all the way to the semifinals with the benefit of 2 extra points. Same with us in 1992 which has to be the luckiest World Cup win ever.
 
Hosting the world cup in England from the end of May is asking for trouble really. July and August can be wet at times too, however you are much more likely to have drier days. They should have at least started at the end of June even if that means pushing the Ashes back a bit.
This is just a fallacy! The weather in june, july and august is pretty similar. If its a wet summer, all 3 months will be affected. If its a dry summer, all three months will probably be dry!
End of may? The last day of may only(31 may).
 
Horrible planning this from ICC. Games are just getting abandoned. These games will hurt teams in the end.
 
Its more or less confirmed that today's match and tomorrow's match will be a wash out as the weather forecast is that it will rain the whole day in Bristol and Taunton respectively..
 
For every venue, there should be an alternate venue during WC. In case of high rain predictions, Up to 48-72 hours prior to match day, they can switch to alternate venue. Broadcasters won't mind that because match will be played during allocated air time and 48 hours is good enough for ticket holders to rearrange their logistics.

An Ind-Pak washout alone can see ICC/Broadcasters losing more money as compared to expenses for arranging alternate venues for 10 matches.
 
It's bad scheduling but also bad luck. Last year it barely rained a drop in May and June across the country!
 
Last year we had glorius weather. A heatwave(by uk standards 28-30 degrees)
and very little rain for a couple of months.
This year its been terrible!
I would only hold world t20 tournaments in england with a reserve day, as you will probably get away with 3.5hrs of cricket in 2 days. I would never hold the most prestigious cricketing event - the WC in england again, unless we have some serious global warming taking place!

It was more than 2 months, London was dry for about 3-4 months (obviously the odd shower). I think more of the same was expected but this has been exceptionally wet.
 
This game, Pak-Aus and NZ-India could all be wash outs lol...

Previous record was 2, right?.. potentially 5 alone in the second week...
 
Why are people saying outrageous stuff like "England should never host a World Cup". We have some of the best stadiums, attractive for broadcasters due to the time difference compared to other countries (compared to Australia/NZ who are so ahead of everyone), diverse fan bases, good level of security. We have no control over rain. England is probably the best place to host a world tournament, followed by Australia/NZ, but the main problem with Aus/NZ as mentioned before is the time difference, very hard for people outside of Oceania to follow it due to time difference. I remember 2015 WC most of the games were overnight UK time, and would have been very early morning for Asian viewers too.
 
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Why are people saying outrageous stuff like "England should never host a World Cup". We have some of the best stadiums, attractive for broadcasters due to the time difference compared to other countries (compared to Australia/NZ who are so ahead of everyone), diverse fan bases, good level of security. We have no control over rain. England is probably the best place to host a world tournament, followed by Australia/NZ, but the main problem with Aus/NZ as mentioned before is the time difference, very hard for people outside of Oceania to follow it due to time difference. I remember 2015 WC most of the games were overnight UK time, and would have been very early morning for Asian viewers too.

Exactly. It's unbelievable how people who know nothing about the UK's cricket standards or climate have suddenly become experts, with their verdict being that it's not good enough to hold the WC. If the WC was last year during the exact same period, nobody would be complaining.
 
Exactly. It's unbelievable how people who know nothing about the UK's cricket standards or climate have suddenly become experts, with their verdict being that it's not good enough to hold the WC. If the WC was last year during the exact same period, nobody would be complaining.

But it's not last year is it...
 
But it's not last year is it...

That's not the point? The point is that people were making it out to be obvious that June would have a lot of rain and that it's the ICC's fault for not having the fixtures in July-August, even though last year June was extremely dry and August usually has a lot of rain.

Basically, these arm-chair experts would've said the same nonsense about hosting in the wrong months no matter when the games were played in the summer, so long as matches were being abandoned. They don't understand that the UK has a unpredictable climate and usually June is a good bet to have the games, it's solely down to bad luck that we've had so many games having issues with rain disruption.
 
but bit but eng is home of cricket.. weather is part of the game....rather have it here with half the games rained out than Asia.

It would be idiotic to let ECB host anything in the future.
 
That's not the point? The point is that people were making it out to be obvious that June would have a lot of rain and that it's the ICC's fault for not having the fixtures in July-August, even though last year June was extremely dry and August usually has a lot of rain.

Basically, these arm-chair experts would've said the same nonsense about hosting in the wrong months no matter when the games were played in the summer, so long as matches were being abandoned. They don't understand that the UK has a unpredictable climate and usually June is a good bet to have the games, it's solely down to bad luck that we've had so many games having issues with rain disruption.

England is infamous for its weather so I guess the criticism is justifiable.
 
It was more than 2 months, London was dry for about 3-4 months (obviously the odd shower). I think more of the same was expected but this has been exceptionally wet.

We chose the wrong year to hold the wc, we should have held it last.year (lol)!
 
Some of these comments are hilarious. Think the planning from the ICC has been somewhat shoddy, maybe they could have started now but we would still more than likely have weather issues.

The fact of the matter is as others have already mentioned the weather in the North West is usually grim and Manchester's weather is the Most unpredictable weather, just like Pakistan as you never what to expect!!!
 
ECB has preferred the Ashes over the World Cup which is why the former will be held in July/August when the weather tends to be good

Screw ECB and screw the Ashes!

Might belt down in July and August too. Hope not, it would be nice to have a summer this year.

We used to have four seasons but they seem to have merged into two over the last few years - a wet chilly season and a warm drier one.

Anyway the current unseasonal rain belt has headed north and the weather should be better for the last 70% of the World Cup.
 
ECB preferred Ashes over WC. English cricket audience clearly prefers ashes to WC tamasha anyway.

We are looking at a wet funeral of a beautiful sport.
 
ECB preferred Ashes over WC. English cricket audience clearly prefers ashes to WC tamasha anyway.

We are looking at a wet funeral of a beautiful sport.
Not true!
If ecb scheduled ashes first then wc, we would be playing wc games including the final in september(autumn) which historically is much wetter than june/july!
 
Not true!
If ecb scheduled ashes first then wc, we would be playing wc games including the final in september(autumn) which historically is much wetter than june/july!
When does it not rain in England? It's notorious for its bad weather.
 
When does it not rain in England? It's notorious for its bad weather.

Hardly rained at all here in May.

We’ve just had a big low pressure system come up from Iberia which has brought a month’s rain in a week, but it is passing over.

I recall the Gatting tour of NZ when all three tests were ruined by rain.
 
When does it not rain in England? It's notorious for its bad weather.
We do have alot of rain in the uk, but this week has been very bad and is not typical for the time of year!
I have heard NZ has quite a bit of rain too, or is that incorrect?
 
We do have alot of rain in the uk, but this week has been very bad and is not typical for the time of year!
I have heard NZ has quite a bit of rain too, or is that incorrect?
Not really, summer is usually good for cricket.
 
That's not the point? The point is that people were making it out to be obvious that June would have a lot of rain and that it's the ICC's fault for not having the fixtures in July-August, even though last year June was extremely dry and August usually has a lot of rain.

Basically, these arm-chair experts would've said the same nonsense about hosting in the wrong months no matter when the games were played in the summer, so long as matches were being abandoned. They don't understand that the UK has a unpredictable climate and usually June is a good bet to have the games, it's solely down to bad luck that we've had so many games having issues with rain disruption.

Exactly, so many people on here are absolutely clueless and suggesting irrational things. Suggesting reserve days is fine, but you've got to be absolutely crazy to honestly think that England isn't a good place to host tournaments.
 
Exactly, so many people on here are absolutely clueless and suggesting irrational things. Suggesting reserve days is fine, but you've got to be absolutely crazy to honestly think that England isn't a good place to host tournaments.

Yep, it's the home of Cricket, whether people like it or not.
 
Dude rain cost us a chance at qualifying in the CT 2017. We had Aus beat and then the match was called off.

NZ was beaten by BD. you guys had fate firmly in your hand. instead of blaming something which is not in your control may be you should concentrate on what you can control.
 
That 5 match series was awful for you guys, our players have learnt from the experience and have identified weaknesses. India really should have sent a B team instead of letting their WC opposition get a good look right before the WC.

If we had faced Chalal and Yadav during the WC without that series, they would have rolled us for nothing and it would have been an easy win.

still hurting hmmm :). India will most likely beat you with or without NZ learning tricks of Indian bowlers.. Indian bowlers also learned how to bowl outside SC which is crucial as the WC is in England.
 
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We've doubled the record already. We're not even halfway through the tournament yet.
 
Tomorrows weather looks good for West Indies vs England. Rain will stop for game time but rain before that. Maybe a delayed start.
 
Ind/Pak to be washed out as well

Why are you copying and pasting this again and again??
It is NOT going to be washed out.
I'm not allowed to discuss bookies on here so I'll just say this according to "unbiased people" there's only a 20% chance that the match will not be completed (so minimum 20 overs per side have to be played for a match to be completed). So don't worry about the weather too much. Unless it changes drastically, we should get a game.
 
Why are you copying and pasting this again and again??
It is NOT going to be washed out.
I'm not allowed to discuss bookies on here so I'll just say this according to "unbiased people" there's only a 20% chance that the match will not be completed (so minimum 20 overs per side have to be played for a match to be completed). So don't worry about the weather too much. Unless it changes drastically, we should get a game.

It is a wash out mate.
 
Why are you copying and pasting this again and again??
It is NOT going to be washed out.
I'm not allowed to discuss bookies on here so I'll just say this according to "unbiased people" there's only a 20% chance that the match will not be completed (so minimum 20 overs per side have to be played for a match to be completed). So don't worry about the weather too much. Unless it changes drastically, we should get a game.

Met office predicting light showers . Forecast could be different on the day but we should get a game in.
 
Not true!
If ecb scheduled ashes first then wc, we would be playing wc games including the final in september(autumn) which historically is much wetter than june/july!
Not true. September has actually turned out to be rather dry in recent years. Weather trends in england has massively changed. It is now even considered normal to see snow in March
 
The English weather is playing the villain as quite a few matches at the ICC Cricket World Cup have been affected due to rain. The latest victim of wet weather is the ongoing big-ticket clash between India and New Zealand at Trent Bridge, Nottingham on Thursday.

Continuous spells of drizzle have delayed the start in Nottingham and chances of play are looking bleak. The umpires had two inspections during the rare stoppage of drizzle and weren't happy with the wet patches at the Trent Bridge.

Fans have been left frustrated as rain delays and washouts are slowly starting to dominate the narrative around the World Cup.

Even as live visuals came from Nottingham, a section of India fans posted images of Eden Gardens which was completely covered during a rain threat in Kolkata in the past and wondered why Trent Bridge didn't have similar protection when it was raining on Thursday.

Notably, only the main pitch, with a hover cover, and the square was covered during the drizzle and the outfield was left without protection.

'Could they have used more covers?'

Wondering why the England and Wales Cricket Board weren't ready with more covers even with wet weather predictions in the United Kingdom, former India captain Anil Kumble, speaking to the official broadcasters, said: "It's the water that's runoff from the covers. My question is there's been plenty of rain, there was a prediction for a lot of rain this week. Could they have reinforced more covers in Nottingham and covered most of the area of the ground?

"The advantage in one sense in England is that you have a large cover. But the disadvantage is when it rains like this. The areas around the bowling run-up are wet," Kumble added.

India vs New Zealand, World Cup 2019: Rain delayed play in Nottingham on Thursday (Reuters Photo)
Batting great and former West Indies captain Brian Lara concurred.

"It's a huge tournament. A lot of money is invested. We knew from a long time ago that this [rain threat] was a great possibility. They should have ideally thought 'hey, let's have some extra covers, extra labour so that we have a bit of cricket," Lara said.

Meanwhile, former Australia batsman Dean Jones suggested that the Nottinghamshire county could have borrowed some labour from nearby counties for the repair work during rain delays in important World Cup matches.

"Edgbaston used to have covers all over the ground. I think it took about 12 minutes to get the entire ground covered. Look if it's a continuing drizzle... I am with you... such an important tournament and the Nottingham county curators are working here. Why can't they get some people from Derbyshire and get the work done? They might be thinking of that right now, the ICC... to double up the labour," Jones said.

Two matches -- Pakistan vs Sri Lanka and Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka -- have been abandoned due to rain so far and the one between West Indies and South Africa saw a No Result after rain played spoilsport.

Even as several former cricketers and support staff have been questioning the absence of reserve days for all matches, the International Cricket Council has said it's impossible to have rain days, considering the logistical difficulties. The semi-finals and the final have rain days at the World Cup.

"Factoring in a reserve day for every match at the World Cup would significantly increase the length of the tournament and practically would be extremely complex to deliver," ICC's outgoing Chief Executive Dave Richardson had said in a statement.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...s-kumble-lara-reaction-icc-1548213-2019-06-13
 
Edgbaston used to have covers all over the ground. I think it took about 12 minutes to get the entire ground covered.

I believe the ECB banned them because they deemed that they did more harm than good to the pitch.
 
Seen these pics on internet

Eden Gardens:

19ab-eden4.jpg



Is this how pitches should be covered in England?
 
Former India captain Sourav Ganguly has come up with a solution to stop any further washouts in the ICC World Cup 2019 because of rain. Two weeks into the tournament, as many as four matches have been washed out – the India vs New Zealand match at Trent Bridge, Nottingham being the latest – which is the most in any ICC tournament. With forecasts of more rain next week and no reserve day for group matches, ICC find themselves in a difficult situation.

Ganguly, speaking during the coverage of India vs New Zealand match at Nottingham, said the situation can be solved by changing the covers.

“The covers that are used in India, at the Eden Gardens are from England and using them here (in England) would have meant spending half the cost and it is also tax-free, so they should have used those here anyway. In India, we use these covers for all matches, so that when the rain stops the match can resume within 10 minutes. They are very light covers, it’s not difficult to lift it, You don’t need too much manpower. The blue covers that were used earlier in India used to take more than 10 times the time and people in comparison to now,” Ganguly told the official broadcasters.

Notably, the policy to cover the entire ground and not only the pitch and thirty-yard circle was initiated by Ganguly after he took charge as the president of Cricket Association of Bengal.

Ganguly also went on to explain that the covers used in Eden Gardens are the same at Lord’s, which allow sunlight to pass. “The covers that are in Eden Gardens and in Lord’s are translucent covers, so light goes past it. This way the grass won’t dry up nor will the colour change from green to brown, if you use them to cover the outfield. For such important matches, and in a tournament like the World Cup — especially in a country like England where the rains are so frequent, having these covers are very important, especially on the outfield as well,” Ganguly explained.

Ganguly, however, admitted that it might not have been possible to get a game in the India-New Zealand encounter on Thursday as it had been raining for the past three days.

“Today’s case is different, the match was called off not only because of the rain today — but it has been raining continuously for the past three days. The two reasons for the delay were firstly, the wet pitch and secondly, something that the viewers on screen can’t see is how dark the ground is, the match can’t begin in such a dark setting,” Ganguly added.

New Zealand, India, Pakistan, West Indies, Bangladesh and South Africa have all been affected with the rain but none more than Sri Lanka, who have been a part of two rain washouts.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...in-washouts/story-dKTV0pHuqSY0iCuzETA6IM.html
 
If India vs Pakistan is washed out expect ICC to make retractable roofs and reserve days mandatory from next World Cup :))
 
Until now, this world cup has been a damp squib. So many matched getting washed out, the round robin stage set over 40 days, which means on average a team plays a game almost every 5 days. The excitement is just not building up. They could have at least have had 2 games on most days.
 
Ganguly has made some relevant comments about the types of cover that should be used. ICC/ECB should listen and explore what Ganguly is suggesting.
 
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ormer India captain and batting great Sunil Gavaskar questioned the apparent lack of rain preparedness of England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) for ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 after quite a few matches

Sunil Gavaskar, speaking to India from Old Trafford in Manchester, said the inability of the ECB to have the cricket ground fully covered was "totally unacceptable". It was pouring down in Manchester even as Gavaskar was expressing his frustration at the puddles that were being formed on the uncovered areas of the outfield.

India take on Pakistan in what is arguably the biggest match of ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 on Sunday in Manchester. However, rain threat looms large over the big-ticket encounter. With the Old Trafford ground taking a lot of water due to the rain in the lead up to Sunday, the wet patches are going to be a cause for concern if the wet weather persists.

Notably, India's World Cup 2019 match against New Zealand on Thursday was abandoned without a ball being bowled in Nottingham. There was constant drizzle throughout the duration of the match and on-field umpires had echoed their concerns over the wet patches at Trent Bridge which wasn't covered entirely as well.

"I am kind of hoping this rain goes away and the sun shines bright because the whole world is waiting for this match [India vs Pakistan]," Gavaskar told India Today on Saturday.

Gavaskar added: "Terrible (Ground not covered on Saturday). Unacceptable. This is a big tournament. You know the conditions in England and not to have that (extra covers) is absolutely unacceptable in my view. In a country like the West Indies, or in some parts of India where it hardly rains, you can understand grounds not being fully covered. However, Kolkata has got it done. Sri Lanka has it, has covers all over the ground.

"Why can't England? England often tells other countries what they should be doing in cricket. England should be the one that should have it because it rains and rains regularly. You can't have a situation where thousands of people come from different parts of the world and sit here and the game does not start."

Harbhajan Singh, who joined Sunil Gavaskar on the show, said he wasn't fully satisfied with the Old Trafford's drainage and the mud-based outfield at the iconic venue.

"There should be a game, provided how long this rain will last. If it continues to be like this, the drainage system in this ground is not that great. I was on the ground and the outfield is quite wet. A few patches are really, really bad. I hope this stops at some point today so that we can get a match tomorrow," Harbhajan Singh said.

"This is not a sand-based ground, this is proper mud-based soil (in Manchester). Once it gets wet, it will stay wet until the sun comes out. As Sunny Bhai said, they should have covered the whole ground. It happened the other day in Nottingham and in a few other matches as well."

Gavaskar wants ICC to punish ECB if India-Pakistan is washed out

Stressing that the International Cricket Council should withhold the money that ECB gets from hosting the India-Pakistan match if it gets washed out, Gavaskar said ICC should take punitive action against the host board.

Thousands of fans have reportedly travelled to Manchester from across the globe for the India-Pakistan match. Tickets for the match was sold out within minutes of ticket window opening and fans are even reportedly willing to resell their tickets.

"Well, ECB (is responsible). ECB is the one that runs the game here. The Lancashire county cricket club comes under its jurisdiction. So it's the ECB's responsibility," Gavaskar added.

"I also believe the ICC needs to tell the ECB now 'the game hasn't taken place because of negligence from your part. So you will not get that guaranteed $750,000. ECB gets $750,000 irrespective of whether a ball is bowled or not. That should not be the case. If the game doesn't start tomorrow because of this, I don't think the ICC should be giving ECB money.

"I hope people who have been trying to talk things about India and not giving India their share of the money, now look at this and put their foot down and show by example that what is good for one, should be good for everybody."

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...nchester-india-vs-pakistan-1549649-2019-06-15
 
I'll repeat what I said in the other thread. Covering the entire outfield is generally not advantageous in England. All you end up with is a load of water sat ontop of the covers that can't access the drainage system that is designed for that exact purpose and it isn't warm/dry enough for it to evaporate quickly off them. You also get moisture getting pulled up from the ground creating a damp layer underneath the covers as well.


"This is not a sand-based ground, this is proper mud-based soil (in Manchester). Once it gets wet, it will stay wet until the sun comes out. As Sunny Bhai said, they should have covered the whole ground. It happened the other day in Nottingham and in a few other matches as well."

That's not true. It's a sand-based compost mix with gravel underneath specifically designed to enhance the drainage.
 
I'll repeat what I said in the other thread. Covering the entire outfield is generally not advantageous in England. All you end up with is a load of water sat ontop of the covers that can't access the drainage system that is designed for that exact purpose and it isn't warm/dry enough for it to evaporate quickly off them. You also get moisture getting pulled up from the ground creating a damp layer underneath the covers as well.




That's not true. It's a sand-based compost mix with gravel underneath specifically designed to enhance the drainage.

Should have thought of an alternative if they couldn't cover the whole ground.

Disgusting.
 
Should have thought of an alternative if they couldn't cover the whole ground.

Disgusting.

I'm not sure why you're quoting my post when you haven't read it? They could have covered it, it just wouldn't be much use. The alternative is a recently developed modern drainage system.
 
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I'm not sure why you're quoting my post when you haven't read it? They could have covered it, it just wouldn't be much use. The alternative is a recently developed modern drainage system.

If they could cover it but couldn't because of the drainage then that means they couldn't cover it.

is the drainage good enough to offset not covering the whole ground?
 
If they could cover it but couldn't because of the drainage then that means they couldn't cover it.

is the drainage good enough to offset not covering the whole ground?

Like I said, covering the ground fully in sheets just means you're going to have massive amounts of water sat ontop of the covers and a layer of water under the covers that's been drawn to the surface due to the sweating effect of the plastic sheeting. The belief over here where rain tends to be more prolonged, there's less sunlight and temperatures are notably lower is that the rainwater is easier to get rid of through the drainage system (which are quite effective once the rain stops, they've even been attributed to English pitches becoming slightly drier and less bowler-friendly over the last decade or 2) rather than off the covers. For that reason you'll notice that there isn't a single ground in England that covers the entire playing surface despite the cost of the covers not being a massive outlay considering the number of times rain affects games over here.
 
LONDON, June 19 (Reuters) - Lost revenues from a record number of rain-hit cricket World Cup games in England and Wales may result in insurance claims of a few million pounds for each abandoned fixture, insurance sources say.

Broadcasters, organisers, venues, advertising sponsors and catering establishments are among firms to have missed out after four matches were called off in an exceptionally rainy June.

Due to the hectic nature of the tournament, which features 48 one-day matches between May and July, finishing on July 14, there is no opportunity to reschedule, except for the semi-finals and final.

Companies typically buy contingency, or cancellation, insurance for sporting events, which covers everything from rain stopping play to terror attacks.

Lloyd’s of London insurer Beazley estimated, for example, that the football World Cup in Russia in 2018 was insured for more than $10 billion, including cover for property damage and cyber breaches, as well as cancellation.

Insurers say cover for the less-popular cricket equivalent will be much lower.

Star India has the global media rights for the cricket tournament but has licensed further rights to sports broadcasters in other countries.

However, it is likely to have lost at least 1 million pounds ($1.26 million) for each abandoned match, insurance specialists estimate, as it gains huge advertising revenue in India for a popular sport in a nation of more than one billion people.

Star India did not respond to requests for comment.

There are 123 advertising spots for broadcasters in a World Cup match, after each of the 100 overs and 20 wickets and during refreshment breaks, said Jonathan Ticehurst, a director at Lloyd’s of London insurance broker Bishopsgate, who has arranged insurance for previous cricket World Cups.

Broadcasters buy contingency insurance, as “in the event of no play, they are not able to charge” the advertisers, he said.

TICKET SALES

The fixtures, several of which were sold out, also attracted ticket sales of at least a few hundred thousand pounds each, with larger games likely attracting sales of more than a million pounds, based on Reuters estimates.

Spectators get all their money back if no ball is bowled, or if the game is abandoned after a small amount of play.

The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB), which gets the revenue from the ticket sales, said it had an insurance policy against matches being called off, but declined to comment further.

Star India likely took out contingency insurance from Indian insurers, but reinsurance may have been provided by the specialist Lloyd’s of London market, insurers said.


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Surely, big question marks on England management. They didn't have full ground covers , and still don't have it. And the groundsman are undermanned, or really not passionate about the game itself. I don't see the aggression, commitment to resume to the game as seen in Asian countries and their grounds people who are plenty in numbers, and well-prepared.
 
Surely, big question marks on England management. They didn't have full ground covers , and still don't have it. And the groundsman are undermanned, or really not passionate about the game itself. I don't see the aggression, commitment to resume to the game as seen in Asian countries and their grounds people who are plenty in numbers, and well-prepared.

The lack of full ground covers is deliberate because they'd generally be ineffective and possibly even damaging (they're actually banned by the ECB). Don't know about you but I've not seen any failures on the ground-staffs part that has affected the resumption of a game as you suggest there has been.
 
Should open reserve days be held in the gap between the group stage and semi finals?

We have had 4 matches washed out due to rain in this world cup which have really dented qualification chances for some teams.

There is normally a few days gap between the last group stage match and the knockout stage. Should these days be used as open reserve days to replay any matches that were washed out due to rain?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No such thing here as rain stopped play <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/sqqxiOURSd">pic.twitter.com/sqqxiOURSd</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1150301287784861697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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