How badly will Australia humiliate this Indian side?

[Nikhil_cric]

After the highs of 2021, Indian Test cricket has plunged to new depths in 2022 and this 2nd test vs BD rounds off a horrible year for India in this format.

The only question which seemingly remains is the margin of defeat to Australia in the upcoming BG trophy. Discuss

 

[Hitman]

It would be nothing short of miracle if India wins the series.

 

[cricketjoshila]

With such team management and selectors we deserve to lose.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

With such team management and selectors we deserve to lose.

Who would you drop from this team?

 

[MenInG]

With such team management and selectors we deserve to lose.

I think all this wrist slitting will stop once India win the game today which they should now.

 

[Hitman]

I think all this wrist slitting will stop once India win the game today which they should now.

If we do win this match, it will still be a shameful performance from us.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I think all this wrist slitting will stop once India win the game today which they should now.

Winning in such a pathetic fashion is nothing to be proud of. Australia are a much stronger opposition and will bully this mediocre team.

 

[Sidilicious]

Every 10 years we lose a test series at home that leads to some wholesale changes. I am hoping it’s this one.

Rohit, KL, Rahul out.

 

[JaDed]

Reminds me of 2011-2013 era again

 

[JaDed]

Every 10 years we lose a test series at home that leads to some wholesale changes. I am hoping it’s this one.

Rohit, KL, Rahul out.

Kohli has to go as well he has been ridiculous in this format.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Who would you drop from this team?

He will drop everyone. He looks upset with any team India put up these days.

 

[Sam99]

Australia is getting whitewashed by india or at worse 3-0

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Every 10 years we lose a test series at home that leads to some wholesale changes. I am hoping it’s this one.

Rohit, KL, Rahul out.

That's fine but Rohit wasn't even playing today.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think all this wrist slitting will stop once India win the game today which they should now.

We barely won. Team is full of coterie members. Never before has the Indian team been like this. We are this close to losing our 1st test series at home in 10 years.

 

[Devadwal]

Rahul ,Virat , Pujara , Ashwin and Rahul should play 2-3 Ranji trophy Match instead of useless t20 untill Australia tour

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Rahul ,Virat , Pujara , Ashwin and Rahul should play 2-3 Ranji trophy Match instead of useless t20 untill Australia tour

How many Rahul do we have?

 

[ravisurya]

Dravid is probably the worst Indian coach in a very long time if not ever and the team management he has picked reflects that. Unless the TM is removed the Indian team will continue to slide.

 

[WengerOut]

How many Rahul do we have?

Maybe Dravid

 

[ravisurya]

How many Rahul do we have?

He wants the coach to go back and play Ranji.

 

[ravisurya]

We barely won. Team is full of coterie members. Never before has the Indian team been like this. We are this close to losing our 1st test series at home in 10 years.

Only way to get rid of this by getting in a foreign coach. We are likely to see a series loss to Australia and a first round exit in the world cup.

 

[dravidthewall]

After the highs of 2021, Indian Test cricket has plunged to new depths in 2022 and this 2nd test vs BD rounds off a horrible year for India in this format.

The only question which seemingly remains is the margin of defeat to Australia in the upcoming BG trophy. Discuss

They will humilate india 4-0 if they select unadkat based on his performance in this test and also picking decline kohli, confused pujara, Mental midget Rahul,Flat track bully Gill,Overarted Rohit

 

[Devadwal]

Against Australia what is your three spinners from
Ashwin,Jadeja ,Axar and kuldeep?

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Team is full of coterie members.

Like who?

 

[SamNJ]

I read India will prepare pitches from dung.
It will start breaking from 2nd over.
Axar, Ashwin, Jadeja will not let Head, Smith and Labushagne breathe.
Iyer and Mayank will score a few runs which will be enough for the win.
So all will be well.
Eat healthy and be happy.

 

[WengerOut]

True, Indian team and management are a mess. But Bangladesh are a legitimate opponent at their home. Aussies drew a series last time.

 

[deep82]

Sneaked a win today and with it 2-0 and hopes of WTC final still alive.

But its 2012 again with seniors hogging places like leeches.

Only two of Rohit, Kohli, Rahul, Pujara should be in the XI. But senior culture is too strong in Indian team.

If new selectors are going to be brave they can pick this XI and this team will have the best chance to beat the Aus.

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Rohit
Mayank ( HTB of highest order, arguably best player of spin in India)
Pujara
Gill
Pant
Iyer
Jadeja
Ashwin
Axar/Kuldeep
Umesh
Shami/Siraj

Kohli should carry drinks and Rahul should be dumped.

 

[WengerOut]

Sneaked a win today and with it 2-0 and hopes of WTC final still alive.

But its 2012 again with seniors hogging places like leeches.

Only two of Rohit, Kohli, Rahul, Pujara should be in the XI. But senior culture is too strong in Indian team.

If new selectors are going to be brave they can pick this XI and this team will have the best chance to beat the Aus.

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Rohit
Mayank ( HTB of highest order, arguably best player of spin in India)
Pujara
Gill
Pant
Iyer
Jadeja
Ashwin
Axar/Kuldeep
Umesh
Shami/Siraj

Kohli should carry drinks and Rahul should be dumped.

Gill is an avg test player ATM

 

[Hitman]

Australia is getting whitewashed by india or at worse 3-0

) ) Khayali pulow.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Who would you drop from this team?

Start with KL. Gill needs to play with Rohit.

Axar Patel is a very avg player. He has no place in this team. If a third spinner is needed, its Kuldeep.

For decades, India has dominated teams at home by playing 7 batsman and 4 bowlers.

Shaw/Gill
Rohit
Pujara
Kohli
Iyer
Sarfaraz/Gill
Jadeja
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah

 

[deep82]

Gill is an avg test player ATM

I will try Gill at Kohli position and see how it goes. But before that he need to play two round of Ranji trophy games.

Want Gill to play with positive players like Rohit, Mayank, Pant, Iyer and not defensive losers like Pujara, Rahul & Kohli.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Gill is an avg test player ATM

He has played 13 tests over a period of 2-3 years. He is 23. And needs to be given time to settle in. Same with Shaw. There is enough talent in terms of batting to try and get 6-7 players.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Oz will start as favorites. India needs to drop a a few seniors and replace with some young faces.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Start with KL. Gill needs to play with Rohit.

Axar Patel is a very avg player. He has no place in this team. If a third spinner is needed, its Kuldeep.

For decades, India has dominated teams at home by playing 7 batsman and 4 bowlers.

Shaw/Gill
Rohit
Pujara
Kohli
Iyer
Sarfaraz/Gill
Jadeja
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah

So you have dropped Pant from your test team?

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Start with KL. Gill needs to play with Rohit.

Axar Patel is a very avg player. He has no place in this team. If a third spinner is needed, its Kuldeep.

So team management and selectors are the worst because you disagree with... two selections?

We most likely would've been in this same position even if Rohit was playing.

Also, who is wicketkeeping in your XI?

 

[BreadPakoda]

Why did RD and the management pick Unadkat over Ishant? Do they plan to do it again in India? Ishant has averaged 21 over the last 5 years

 

[atreus]

Australia is getting whitewashed by india or at worse 3-0

watch the 2017 series mate , a much stronger India had pretty much lost to a much weaker australia if not for once in a lifetime spell by a much better Ashwin.

 

[Sam99]

) ) Khayali pulow.

Don't forget it was smith's bradman like form that made it competitive series last time and he is well past his prime now & will be lucky to score century. Marnus won't score big runs. Warner, Head, Carey will be walking wicket on those pitches. Green is untested & Khawaja might do okay. Yes i agree India too has issues but with Jadeja, Bumrah & Shami back and Rohit replacing Rahul at top order will make team quite strong in these conditions. Pant, Jadeja, Ashwin & Axar/Sundar would be great lower middle order to have even if top order fails.

Australia doesn't have spinner other than lyon who himself has been on decline in last few years too. People are just assuming Australia will be back at their best. I might give Australia better chance in place like England against India (Assuming both play wtc final).

 

[Sidilicious]

That's fine but Rohit wasn't even playing today.

He would have been had he not been injured.

 

[Ab Fan]

Rahul and Kohli have been terrible players of spin bowling.

 

[Sidilicious]

Kohli has to go as well he has been ridiculous in this format.

Yeah. KL, Rohit, Kohli, and these nonsensical selections like Axar, Unadkat.

 

[Ab Fan]

Why did RD and the management pick Unadkat over Ishant? Do they plan to do it again in India? Ishant has averaged 21 over the last 5 years

Ishant? Bhai, he is retired.

Or do you mean Ishan Kishan?

 

[sweep_shot]

Australia are favorites. I think current Australia can beat current India 3-1.

 

[atreus]

Don't forget it was smith's bradman like form that made it competitive series last time and he is well past his prime now & will be lucky to score century. Marnus won't score big runs. Warner, Head, Carey will be walking wicket on those pitches. Green is untested & Khawaja might do okay. Yes i agree India too has issues but with Jadeja, Bumrah & Shami back and Rohit replacing Rahul at top order will make team quite strong in these conditions. Pant, Jadeja, Ashwin & Axar/Sundar would be great lower middle order to have even if top order fails.

Australia doesn't have spinner other than lyon who himself has been on decline in last few years too. People are just assuming Australia will be back at their best. I might give Australia better chance in place like England against India (Assuming both play wtc final).

Yes and the only reason the last series was competitive from India's side were the spinners and two batsmen , the two batsmen were KL Rahul and Cheteshwar Pujara , Pujara has been averaging 33 since 2019 , KL around 30 while Smith has been averaging 58 ( his " out of form ).

Ashwin is 36 , Jadeja nearing 35 so Lyon isn't too old and has averaged 29 this year, the indian top order is just finished , and the Australian bowling attack would rip slice through the indian batting like a knife through hot butter.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Typical indian fans. Truly happy and will come crawling out of the wood work when we loose to discuss the negatives and put the boot in - judging by some of the commnts above. nothing pleases the true indian fan more than to diss our team when we are down.
Granted we are not the absolute raging fav, but are not some hillybilly railloo halwa bunch either. Series will be close and i'd wager -exciting as well - but the word humilation etc are misplaced here.

 

[Ab Fan]

Australia will win 4-0.

 

[NishanKonar]

Rahul Dravid is an unmitigated disaster for India

he was the captain during that 2007 ODI WC fiasco. Now as manager he is no different

Sooner we realise its better for India

 

[BreadPakoda]

Ishant? Bhai, he is retired.

Or do you mean Ishan Kishan?

Oh. Didn’t know he retired.

 

[Hitman]

Rahul Dravid is an unmitigated disaster for India

he was the captain during that 2007 ODI WC fiasco. Now as manager he is no different

Sooner we realise its better for India

While I respect his contributions as a player, I hated watching him play as well. Him and Kallis were 2 guys who bored everyone to death. Both of them just were one dimensional players who played at their own pace regardless of what the situation required.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Oh. Didn’t know he retired.

He hasn't retired officially. He was dropped from the team.

 

[BreadPakoda]

He hasn't retired officially. He was dropped from the team.

He hasn’t? Wth [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] spreading misinformation. Any reason Unadkat, who isn’t young by any means, is ahead of Ishant in terms of selection? Also, Yadav isn’t a youngsta beauty either, so why is only Ishant being ignored?

 

[Ashmal]

Indian spinners will roll over the Aussies.....with all games finishing within 3 days

Easy 4-0 victory coming up

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Lol I'm 90% certain India will win every Test. Lyon is easy for India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So team management and selectors are the worst because you disagree with... two selections?

We most likely would've been in this same position even if Rohit was playing.

Also, who is wicketkeeping in your XI?

Pant at 7. I wrote only 10 players

Iyer though an excellent player of spin wont last because of his short ball issues.

Gill/Shaw
Rohit
Pujara
Kohli
Gill
Iyer/Sarfaraz
Pant
Jadeja
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah

Pant can move to 6 and Kuldeep can be added if we need 3 spinners. Gill can move to 3 if Pujara fails.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why did RD and the management pick Unadkat over Ishant? Do they plan to do it again in India? Ishant has averaged 21 over the last 5 years

Ishant wont be selected again. The 3rd pacer will be Umesh and 4th is Thakur and now Unadkat.

 

[Ab Fan]

He hasn’t? Wth [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] spreading misinformation. Any reason Unadkat, who isn’t young by any means, is ahead of Ishant in terms of selection? Also, Yadav isn’t a youngsta beauty either, so why is only Ishant being ignored?

Ishant is no longer in scheme of things..I thought he retired somewhere around this year at the start but it seems not. Yadav is doing well whenever he gets chance.

 

[Jazx]

Even the mighty 2000s Australia never humiliated india in their backyard. They never won convincingly here except one series. May be this time it will be a closer contest with the end result again in favour of india.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

will be an exciting series. 3-1 will be an ok performance, 2-2 will be poor and a series loss would be a humiliation for sure. i am expecting a 3-1 win for india.
rohit, iyer, pant, jadeja can play spin well.

Test AVGs v spin in last 2 years:

gill - 35.6
rahul - 39
rohit - 46
pujara - 43
kohli - 25.6
shreyas iyer - 67.8
pant - 61
jaddu - 98.5
ashwin - 27.7

 

[Varun]

Even the mighty 2000s Australia never humiliated india in their backyard. They never won convincingly here except one series. May be this time it will be a closer contest with the end result again in favour of india.

Because they were playing against mighty India at the time.

Can't say the same of this lot led by Rahul.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

India play to their strengths at home. There is no way they are losing to Australia.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Rahul and Kohli have been terrible players of spin bowling.

Kohli should stop playing on spin tracks.
He used to score double hundreds for fun, now he is playing worse than tailender.

It's embarrassing.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India has been depending on their lower order for 3 years to bail them out time and again. Fast bowling unit saved their blushes. Post Bumrah injury India lost potency in that area as well. Shami is also aging. Ashwin is also on his last legs. Jadeja often goes missing with injury. Now Pant is the only savior. Iyer is still new.

 

[Ayan1105]

Australia will win 4-0.

You are being too kind Sir..Make it 5-0

 

[Ab Fan]

You are being too kind Sir..Make it 5-0

I am very disappointed by India's batting. Top 4 are pretty poor at the moment. Iyer who has done well will finally face his toughest challenge when India plays Australia. They will have some special plans against Pant too.

Only Jadeja and Ashwin are the ray of hope.

 

[charlie007]

Iyer will be fine in India. For all our woes, I expect us to beat Aus 3-1. Delhi and Ahmedabad will be heavily spinning wickets. We'll have to make sure Dharamshala is not a green top and Nagpur doesn't have any grass either. I'm sure BCCI knows this and is working on the wickets as we speak.
Bowling will be Bumrah, Siraj, Ashwin, Jadeja, and Kuldeep. Batters will be Rohit, Rahul (as much as I want him to be dropped, he'll be picked ahead of Gill), Pujara, Kohli, Shreyas, Pant.
It's a decent team at home - remember, this is India, nobody beats us here (or at least VERY rarely does).

 

[Jazx]

Because they were playing against mighty India at the time.

Can't say the same of this lot led by Rahul.

Yes mighty india but it was mighty Australia too. This time both teams are not at the same level and india is always different at home with those doctored pitches. So, don't expect anything special from Australia.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

Yes mighty india but it was mighty Australia too. This time both teams are not at the same level and india is always different at home with those doctored pitches. So, don't expect anything special from Australia.

"At home with those doctored pitches"
Again, this rubbish myth. This is what happens when you watch/remember only a few matches and have no idea about stats too.
In last 5 years or so india has produced the best pitches in the world. They aided pace, spin, batters in balanced proportions.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I mean yeah, this is probably Australia's best chance to win a series in India. But I think Indian posters are underrating their team a little too much. India is by far the best team in the world in home conditions and there's a reason why they have only lost a handful of test matches in the last decade or so.

Plus, if Jadeja and Rohit come back into this side, its strength increases exponentially. I would still put India as favorites to win this series. Not every Asian team is stupid enough or incompetent enough to play the way that Pakistan played earlier this year when they hosted Australia.

 

[ethan hunt]

Ashwin and the indian spinners are unstoppable on indian pitches even Pakistani spinners bowl well in india but goras just dont do as well in india.

They ll be a different beast in India.

 

[Chip32]

India should win comfortably. They’ve scarred Australia by beating them twice at home. Additionally, I think this Australian side is overrated and frauds like Travis Head have been made to look good by mediocre bowling on pitches in Australia.

 

[Bilal7]

As usual, whichever team bats first will win.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

As usual, whichever team bats first will win.

India usually wins at home regardless of the toss . In the last decade, we have only lost 2 test matches. Toss has had the least impact in India of all places

 

[Front Foot Pull]

As usual, whichever team bats first will win.

nope.

last 5 years test teams fielding first in india W - 7, L - 10. amongst them, india when fielding first W - 5, L - 1.

 

[Buffet]

It's kind of hard to beat India in India over a long test series.

India has to play poorly and at the same time opposition has to play out of their skin.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Usually India raises their game to next level when they face Australia than against any other country. But if your side is loaded with out of form players be prepared for the surprise. Khawaja is a good player of spin bowling.
Current Indian line up has a grand total of 2 good players against spin.

 

[Buffet]

Usually India raises their game to next level when they face Australia than against any other country. But if your side is loaded with out of form players be prepared for the surprise. Khawaja is a good player of spin bowling.
Current Indian line up has a grand total of 2 good players against spin.

Yah, but Aus will be facing Indian spinners and India will be facing Aus spinners. As units, they are not same.

 

[Mamoon]

Australia is scared of India after surrendering to them in consecutive home series. They will not be able to return the favor.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Still, we can win this series.

 

[Jazx]

"At home with those doctored pitches"
Again, this rubbish myth. This is what happens when you watch/remember only a few matches and have no idea about stats too.
In last 5 years or so india has produced the best pitches in the world. They aided pace, spin, batters in balanced proportions.

Which myth bro? I am watching cricket since 1991 and 95% of test matches are played on such wickets on indian soil. You are talking about last 5 years, maybe you find them sporting but then also the nature of wickets are spin freindly where every SENA team struggles to adapt and by time they are used to, the series gets over. Ashwin and jadeja would not have those stats on playing on sporting wickets.

 

[Mp812]

Australia is scared of India after surrendering to them in consecutive home series. They will not be able to return the favor.

Not sure of scared ...but historically since 2001 test series, India manages to get their game up a level... against Aus even if personnel available are not best 11.

 

[Sachin136]

Australia has won just 5 of the last 15 test series played against India. With Rohit, Jadeja, and Bumrah coming back soon, I don't see how anything but a series win for India is possible.