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How difficult is the National Stadium Karachi wicket during the first Test v South Africa?

Rayyman

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Definitely the standout from watching the match today is the behavior of the Karachi surface.
 
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its not that bad tbh, imran got one that rose unexpectedly, everything else has stayed low, babar missed a straight one and theres nothing u cd say abt shaheen.

its a challenging wicket, but as per usual, pak go in there shell and wait for wickets to fall, no one taking the initiative if babar fails.
 
its not that bad tbh, imran got one that rose unexpectedly, everything else has stayed low, babar missed a straight one and theres nothing u cd say abt shaheen.

its a challenging wicket, but as per usual, pak go in there shell and wait for wickets to fall, no one taking the initiative if babar fails.

Fawad put away the first remotely loose delivery he got from Nortje and that released some pressure. Everyone else was just hell bent on defending everything even some deliveries which one could have attacked. The sooner Misbah is let go the better it is, his entire presence encourages defensive attritional UAE style batting
 
its not that bad tbh, imran got one that rose unexpectedly, everything else has stayed low, babar missed a straight one and theres nothing u cd say abt shaheen.

its a challenging wicket, but as per usual, pak go in there shell and wait for wickets to fall, no one taking the initiative if babar fails.

How is it compared to UAE wickets? Do pacers have something in it? Is it turning wicket or slow wicket?
 
Fawad put away the first remotely loose delivery he got from Nortje and that released some pressure. Everyone else was just hell bent on defending everything even some deliveries which one could have attacked. The sooner Misbah is let go the better it is, his entire presence encourages defensive attritional UAE style batting

You cant bat like the way they r and expect to win

Its negative and invites pressure n men around the bat

What good did the blockathon do? They lost 4 wickets anyway It would ve been better to play and finish on 60-4 then this

This mindset is horrible And needs to be put in the bin once and for all
 
You cant bat like the way they r and expect to win

Its negative and invites pressure n men around the bat

What good did the blockathon do? They lost 4 wickets anyway It would ve been better to play and finish on 60-4 then this

This mindset is horrible And needs to be put in the bin once and for all

Misbah never ever understood or diagnosed this as a problem in his entire career as a player and coach. It's like a drug addiction he has with his one dimensional defensive cricketing approach
 
Its not a traditional Karachi pitch but not as bad as the inept batsmen from both sides have made it look.

Overall quality of cricket has gone down during the last decade. A batting line consisting of Smith, Amla, Kallis, De villiers or Taufeeq, Younis, Yousaf, Inzi would have been 310-4 on this wicket.
 
not a bad pitch at all and its perfect for us. Spin is from footholes nothing much right handers to worry..babz was just an awful shot. We are just not good enough thats the truth.
 
Second inning usually decides the result of the match in National Stadium Karachi. If we bundle out for anything less than 170, we are done. The pitch tends to become flatter with time and big 3rd inning scores are pretty common.
 
How is it compared to UAE wickets? Do pacers have something in it? Is it turning wicket or slow wicket?

uae wickets bounce was a lot more consistent, the odd ball misbehaves if u put in effort on this pitch, also uae pitches didnt degrade, this pitch gives the feeling batting last on it will be very difficult.
 
Poor wicket this in karachi. Uneven bounce and pace. And on such wickets bowlers with extra pace like africans become very dangerous. I doubt Pak will score more than 150
 
“Pakistan missed out on padding their w:l record because they couldn’t play at home”

Missing UAE graveyard right about now :sree
 
How are we going to be able to chase anything above 10 on this pitch :ssmith
 
How is the ball staying so low. This will be a true test of Fahim Ashraf the allrounder..he needs atleast 50..did we need the A/R? Fahim only bowled 5 overs
 
Un even bounce on day 1 is not a good side Pakistan need to get close to south africa score.fawad must prove his worth
 
It's not the best track, but certainly didn't warrant 14 wickets in one day.

Look at some of the dismissals - they resembled club cricket shots.
 
The stroke players like Babar, Abid shoul play their natural games and let the blockers; Azhar and Fawad play their game. Just look at India Pujara plays the blocking role while guys like Kohli and Pant play their natural game. This defensive mindset adds on the pressure.
It's all about Rizwan tomorrow now
 
Second inning usually decides the result of the match in National Stadium Karachi. If we bundle out for anything less than 170, we are done. The pitch tends to become flatter with time and big 3rd inning scores are pretty common.

The last session is perhaps the most difficult due to the wind and it giving assistance to the pacers. Day 2 from what i saw in QeA is an ideal day to pile on the runs, now tomorrow is about seeing out those first 10 overs from Nortje and Rabada. You couldn't have asked for a more ideal pair at the crease right now in Fawad an Azhar who understand these conditions. I would keep patient and wouldn't say anything until Pakistan is bundled out.

My dua is with these guys and for the 2 guys at the crease right now to give us a counterpunch. The pace shouldn't be worrying tomorrow as they won't get much (i think) in the first 2 sessions, it's when you get the breeze in the 3rd session.
 
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Uneven bounce on Day 1 isn't good and Pakistan may get censured by ICC after this.

That being said, the batting from both teams was abysmal today.
 
I don't think Pakistans batting was that bad. If you look at the time the Saffers were batting, there was quite a bit of seam and swing particularly for Shaheen and he got Markram with one that jagged away sharply. But the batsmen could trust the bounce for the most part . It was either good bowling or Saffers throwing it away by low percentage shots or poor running between the wickets.

Wicket became quite unpredictable in the 3rd session. Lungi banged in a short ball and it literally went inches above the ground and it hit the toe end of Azhars bat.
Look at the 2 wickets that Rabada took. Rabada pitched the ball to Abid and it clearly kept low. The one to Imran was almost a metre fuller and it reared menacingly.

This is a bad pitch. Toss was crucial here and SA were lucky to win it.
 
Uneven bounce on Day 1 isn't good and Pakistan may get censured by ICC after this.

That being said, the batting from both teams was abysmal today.

A terrible look for us for a major game back from exile. But expected from PCB jokers.
 
not that difficult. i actually think the pitch has played nicely and it's been good viewing. some carry there too
pak are just rubbish
 
There should not be uneven bounce on Day 1, so it's a poor wicket. That said, several of the 14 wickets to fall today were because of poor batting rather than the surface.
 
Uneven bounce on Day 1 isn't good and Pakistan may get censured by ICC after this.

That being said, the batting from both teams was abysmal today.

Did they even prepare anything in the first place....Just dished out whatever they could by the looks of it.

Bare patches around, doesn't look as good viewing.
 
Did they even prepare anything in the first place....Just dished out whatever they could by the looks of it.

Bare patches around, doesn't look as good viewing.
It’s not that bad a pitch. It should flatten out on days 2 and 3 before vicious turn on day 4.
 
Pakistan missed the trick. They should have let them bat till 30 min of tomorrow morning. Then day 2 3 would be best batting conditions and scored 400. Now they may end with around 200.
 
Not a good pitch by any standard , uneven bounce.

Feel bad for Abid Ali, was out on delivery which kept very low.
 
Uneven bounce on day 1. Awful wicket though i am fine as long as misbah gets lost.
 
Not a good pitch by any standard , uneven bounce.

Feel bad for Abid Ali, was out on delivery which kept very low.

It didnt keep very low at all abid ali is rubbish thats all. Imran aas unlucky.
 
Can someone tell me what exactly trundler Faheem Ashraf doing in the 11. He is not expected to do much as a bowler, Saud should have been selected in his place.
 
Definitely a poor pitch.
Misbah and co were trying to get a win through pitch doctoring. Too bad it backfired on them.
 
Can someone tell me what exactly trundler Faheem Ashraf doing in the 11. He is not expected to do much as a bowler, Saud should have been selected in his place.

So go with 2 pacers and 2 spinners?
 
So go with 2 pacers and 2 spinners?

Yes, they will be doing much of the bowling anyway. Saud in place of this so called all rounder would have been better , other option would be the other bits and pieces player in the team, Nawaz for Faheem.
 
Day 1 was not difficult. Just slightly uneven.

Wasn’t a traditional KHI pitch in terms of bounce. May or may not evolve like a KHI pitch over the next few days, who knows.

Possibly our best pair for ‘ugly’ grafting in such conditions. The scrape well against spin so let’s see.
 
Yes, they will be doing much of the bowling anyway. Saud in place of this so called all rounder would have been better , other option would be the other bits and pieces player in the team, Nawaz for Faheem.

It would be a tough slog with only 4 bowlers, I’d rather have seen Abid dropped and open with Azhar and slot it Saud.
 
Can someone tell me what exactly trundler Faheem Ashraf doing in the 11. He is not expected to do much as a bowler, Saud should have been selected in his place.

Hes playing as a all rounder hes done decently well with the bat recently and gives you decent overs with the ball
 
There should not be uneven bounce on Day 1, so it's a poor wicket. That said, several of the 14 wickets to fall today were because of poor batting rather than the surface.

Thier was couple of deliveries that had uneven bounce but thats about it.
 
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