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How do you feel England will fare in India?

Bilal7 said:
Then India will most likely lose since even they aren't fully equipped to play on their own pitches.
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That's your own perception.. Take 2nd test in India vs SA series for example. SA batted 1st and there were no demons in the pitch but they still would have got thrashed if not for rain.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-south-africa-2015-16/engine/match/903605.html

So statements like "Then India will most likely lose" has no credibility whatsoever.

It's all Tusker type reasoning which makes no sense to anyone but yourself
 
Chrish said:
That's your own perception.. Take 2nd test in India vs SA series for example. SA batted 1st and there were no demons in the pitch but they still would have got thrashed if not for rain.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-south-africa-2015-16/engine/match/903605.html

So statements like "Then India will most likely lose" has no credibility whatsoever.

It's all Tusker type reasoning which makes no sense to anyone but yourself
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Lmao don't bother..

Apparently the overhead clouds on the first day were masking the effects of the rank turner pitch at Bangalore. You just can't win with the guy..:narine
 
Kohli wins the toss...really? I thought home captains don't do the calling..
 
Chrish said:
That's your own perception.. Take 2nd test in India vs SA series for example. SA batted 1st and there were no demons in the pitch but they still would have got thrashed if not for rain.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-south-africa-2015-16/engine/match/903605.html

So statements like "Then India will most likely lose" has no credibility whatsoever.

It's all Tusker type reasoning which makes no sense to anyone but yourself
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What are you even trying to prove with that match? That India can beat the top teams in pace-friendly conditions?

It's common sense that if India had to bat second in at least half of the matches that they've recently played, they would have lost at least a few, given the nature of the pitches.

This makes sense to everyone but you and your cheerleader, [MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION].
 
Bilal7 said:
What are you even trying to prove with that match? That India can beat the top teams in pace-friendly conditions?

It's common sense that if India had to bat second in at least half of the matches that they've recently played, they would have lost at least a few, given the nature of the pitches.

This makes sense to everyone but you and your cheerleader, [MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION].
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Let me try to break it down for you.. When team spends certain amount of money/ resources, I am sure they are more aware of their strengths/ weaknesses than armchair experts like yourself. So, I am sure Indian selectors are aware of the risks they are taking by preparing the kind of wickets seen recently. They know that their own batsmen would struggle but they would still outscore their opposition given the strength of their bowling attacks.

After investing in all the resources, they don't need to be told how "equipped" they are "to play on their own pitches" by someone who watches cricket on cricinfo and they certainly wouldn't let their fate hang on the toss.

So, get over your insecurity by using common sense for once.
 
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Justcrazy said:
But winning Toss was advantage for Aussies.
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Australia don't have the players to take advantage of the toss. Can't play or bowl spin at all.

Chrish said:
Let me try to break it down for you.. When team spends certain amount of money/ resources, I am sure they are more aware of their strengths/ weaknesses than armchair experts like yourself. So, I am sure Indian selectors are aware of the risks they are taking by preparing the kind of wickets seen recently. They know that their own batsmen would struggle but they would still outscore their opposition given the strength of their bowling attacks.

After investing in all the resources, they don't need to be told how "equipped" they are "to play on their own pitches" by someone who watches cricket on cricinfo and they certainly wouldn't let their fate hang on the toss.

So, get over your insecurity by using common sense for once.
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Yes, because a team's plans and management of resources have never ever turned out awry before. :facepalm:

It's clear to anyone who has watched even a little of India's test performances at home that they are susceptible against spin and would struggle big time if Kohli hadn't won all six of his tosses, in the time that he's been captain.

You speak like a professional cricketer yourself, with the way you point fingers. I'm sure the likes of Dhawan and Awais Zia don't need to be told that they are hacks by someone like you, because they've played international cricket and you've probably never been on your school team. Let's also shut down this site because of course, fans are all "arm-chair experts" who can't make observations and analysis about the game. Noice!
 
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Bilal7 said:
It's clear to anyone who has watched even a little of India's test performances at home that they are susceptible against spin and would struggle big time if Kohli hadn't won all six of his tosses, in the time that he's been captain.
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Well you certainly have got a premise there but the matches that as you supposedly feel India would have lost had they had to bat 2nd is not entirely true either.

Coz you forget that we have the better bowlers for these conditions which can't be discounted as our bowlers would have still gotten the job done. Case in point: watch Ind vs SA Bangalore test that got rained off. We had SA on the ropes in their 1st innings on a flattish pitch for 200 and then we we're 80/0 I think when it got rained off.
 
Bilal7 said:
Australia don't have the players to take advantage of the toss. Can't play or bowl spin at all.



Yes, because a team's plans and management of resources have never ever turned out awry before. :facepalm:

It's clear to anyone who has watched even a little of India's test performances at home that they are susceptible against spin and would struggle big time if Kohli hadn't won all six of his tosses, in the time that he's been captain.

You speak like a professional cricketer yourself, with the way you point fingers. I'm sure the likes of Dhawan and Awais Zia don't need to be told that they are hacks by someone like you, because they've played international cricket and you've probably never been on your school team. Let's also shut down this site because of course, fans are all "arm-chair experts" who can't make observations and analysis about the game. Noice!
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I already mentioned that they aren't the best players of spin but they still outscore opposition more often than not due to their strength of spin-stock.

That match against SA was an example where they would have thrashed the opposition despite not batting 1st but of course as expected it got conveniently ignored.

It's like saying Amla wouldn't have scored double hundred against England if his 5 catches weren't dropped. And Pakistan would have been thrashed in England (in the same manner as previous tour) if they had traditional English wickets instead of roads that were still intact all the way till day 5.

All true but should we go by what actually happened or what could/ would/ should have happened?
 
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The last time England toured, India prepared rank turners for them. England lost the first test but brought Monty Panesar to back up Graeme Swann in the second test, and went on to win the series 3-1.

So Monty and Swann played a huge role in the victory.

Assuming that rank turners are prepared this time to aid the likes of Ashwin, England's chances depend on how Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali deal with the Indian batting lineup.

How I wish Panesar had not messed himself up! He would have been a valuable asset for England on this tour.
 
gani999 said:
The last time England toured, India prepared rank turners for them. England lost the first test but brought Monty Panesar to back up Graeme Swann in the second test, and went on to win the series 3-1.

So Monty and Swann played a huge role in the victory.

Assuming that rank turners are prepared this time to aid the likes of Ashwin, England's chances depend on how Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali deal with the Indian batting lineup.

How I wish Panesar had not messed himself up! He would have been a valuable asset for England on this tour.
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2-1 not 3-1
 
Well going by these performances it is clear that England will clearly provide stiff opposition on flat decks and maybe even beat us bit on turning tracks the jury is still out.
 
English bowling has been rather unimpressive in Bangladesh. Hard to see them going through the lineup of Rahul/Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Rohit, Ashwin, Saha and Jadeja twice.

I hope India prepares pitches that suit Ashwin and Jadeja. It is pretty standard for countries to give home advantage to its bowlers. Turning wickets should also help Ali and Rashid, but I think our spinners are significantly better than theirs.
 
Chrish said:
I already mentioned that they aren't the best players of spin but they still outscore opposition more often than not due to their strength of spin-stock.

That match against SA was an example where they would have thrashed the opposition despite not batting 1st but of course as expected it got conveniently ignored.

It's like saying Amla wouldn't have scored double hundred against England if his 5 catches weren't dropped. And Pakistan would have been thrashed in England (in the same manner as previous tour) if they had traditional English wickets instead of roads that were still intact all the way till day 5.

All true but should we go by what actually happened or what could/ would/ should have happened?
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The point of this thread is to predict how England will do in India. My point is that given a little luck and if they put in a great performance, they can draw or even win the series.

This is why I was speculating what would happen if Kohli loses a couple of tosses. Understood?
 
I hope India makes a moderately turning track and cook wins the toss. India will still win the match, just want to see what will be the next excuse. because no way India is getting praised for its good performance.
 
Bilal7 said:
The point of this thread is to predict how England will do in India. <b>My point is that given a little luck and if they put in a great performance, they can draw or even win the series.</b>

This is why I was speculating what would happen if Kohli loses a couple of tosses. Understood?
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Let us revisit this on December 20, when the Test series ends.
 
Spidy201 said:
I hope India makes a moderately turning track and cook wins the toss. India will still win the match, just want to see what will be the next excuse. because no way India is getting praised for its good performance.
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We should hope for what is good for us. :D

Those who wanna give excuses can keep giving them.
 
Napa said:
Let us revisit this on December 20, when the Test series ends.
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Let's.

Spidy201 said:
I hope India makes a moderately turning track and cook wins the toss. India will still win the match, just want to see what will be the next excuse. because no way India is getting praised for its good performance.
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If they do, I'll be the first one to praise them. Should be a rank-turner though.
 
Spidy201 said:
I hope India makes a moderately turning track and cook wins the toss. India will still win the match, just want to see what will be the next excuse. because no way India is getting praised for its good performance.
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They will lose the game. Be careful what you wish for.

And stop seeking validation. India are a good team (at home, at least).
 
The way India are going at home, England will be smashed 5-0. Anderson will be very rusty and probably won't last the entire series. England could maybe win 1 test, but I'd be surprised if India won any less than 4.
 
I think if India prepare spin friendly wickets (and they are perfectly entitled to do so) : 3-0 to India.
On the other hand, had England played India in England this summer (as opposed to Pakistan) :3-0 to England.

If India have a brain malfunction and prepare green pitches in Inda v England : 3-0 to England.
Bottom Line : England have a far superior pace attack. India have a far superior spin attack. England have the better batting side overall.
 
It will be fun series.

On rank Turner's, Ashwin will become Warne and Moen will also become Warne.So the spin advantage India has might well be reduced out.

On standard Indian pitches, Ash will remain Ash and Moen will remain Moen. India's chances will become higher because they won't throw their wickets this time to likes of Moen and Rashid and will pile lots of runs.

As for English batsmen, there are chances that Root( quite like AB and Kane) would get starts, get to 60s and 70s and then throws it away all through the series. India need to take care of the fact that Root might lose his patience at times and hence not allow him easy runs.

The whole world has changed around Cook since he toured India last time. He had a long slump of two full years where he declined a lot and although he has got success of late but still he hasn't been the one you would feel fear of taking the game away single handedly. Also, given the love Ashwin has towards lefties, he may take care of Cook this time.

Others are just not good enough. Bairstow and Stokes won't do much in India in their first tour.

Anderson's care should be taken though by Indian batsmen even though it's not England where they will face him this time.

A 3-1 will be a good result for India. If England sneaks 2 win, they( Eng) should be happy too.
 
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India and England have roughly the same batting depth. But think the quality of their spin attack is going to cost them this time around unless their seamers manage to create trouble in the Indian line up.

Both Swann and Monty were quality last time around but don't think none of Moeen, Rashid, Batty, Zafar or Samit match their quality.
 
India vs England series will be fun to watch. The English players are good hitters, if the track is flat, I'll give the edge to English players. If the pitch is a rank turner, England has Moen and Rashid. Moen is smater but Rashid is better. Ashwin and (any other spinner) <Rashid and Ali. I will be looking forward to this series.
 
I hope India thrash England 5-0, inflict a couple of innings defeat and Rahane, Pujara and Kohli have 500+ run series.

That would go a long way in easing the pain of pounding we've been getting in England and the disastrous home series in 2012.
 
England is much better than NZ and Australia, so logically they should give India the biggest fight. There will be no repeat of 2012, but I don't expect them to go down without a challenge like NZ and Australia.

Could be similar to their performances in the UAE. They have lost 5/6 matches in the UAE but have competed quite well for the majority of those games.
 
The question is not necessary how will England compete, but what will India do should the English compete?
India will revert to rank tuners should they lose the first Test or if the series is on the line with a match to go. (Of course the apologist will remark that the conditions are the same for all, neglecting the fact that England don't have Ashwin & Jadeja caliber players)
They have done so on numerous occasions, even when they had a great side for those home conditions. Lose the first Test, you get a rank turner in the second.

The BCCI wants to create a mini Australia i.e. go on the sequence of runs that Australia rack up. Australia went 15 years without losing a Test series at home. What i admire about the Aussies is that they'll play everyone instead of avoiding certain sides. I think India have only lost 3 home series in the last 16 years.
On paper that's good, but when we take a greater inspection, one will notice its the likes of Aus, NZ, ENG, SA who have dominated their home fixtures. They are simply not Australia, and should trying to imitate them. Did the same thing against SA after they were humiliated in the T20's and ODI's, dished up minefields.
They are prepared to lose ODI's but not Tests in their conditions.
 
soso_killer said:
The question is not necessary how will England compete, but what will India do should the English compete?
India will revert to rank tuners should they lose the first Test or if the series is on the line with a match to go. (Of course the apologist will remark that the conditions are the same for all, neglecting the fact that England don't have Ashwin & Jadeja caliber players)
They have done so on numerous occasions, even when they had a great side for those home conditions. Lose the first Test, you get a rank turner in the second.

The BCCI wants to create a mini Australia i.e. go on the sequence of runs that Australia rack up. Australia went 15 years without losing a Test series at home. What i admire about the Aussies is that they'll play everyone instead of avoiding certain sides. I think India have only lost 3 home series in the last 16 years.
On paper that's good, but when we take a greater inspection, one will notice its the likes of Aus, NZ, ENG, SA who have dominated their home fixtures. They are simply not Australia, and should trying to imitate them. Did the same thing against SA after they were humiliated in the T20's and ODI's, dished up minefields.
They are prepared to lose ODI's but not Tests in their conditions.
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Still believing India should play Sri Lanka more at home eh?:narine
 
soso_killer said:
The question is not necessary how will England compete, but what will India do should the English compete?
India will revert to rank tuners should they lose the first Test or if the series is on the line with a match to go. (Of course the apologist will remark that the conditions are the same for all, neglecting the fact that England don't have Ashwin & Jadeja caliber players)
They have done so on numerous occasions, even when they had a great side for those home conditions. Lose the first Test, you get a rank turner in the second.

The BCCI wants to create a mini Australia i.e. go on the sequence of runs that Australia rack up. Australia went 15 years without losing a Test series at home. What i admire about the Aussies is that they'll play everyone instead of avoiding certain sides. I think India have only lost 3 home series in the last 16 years.
On paper that's good, but when we take a greater inspection, one will notice its the likes of Aus, NZ, ENG, SA who have dominated their home fixtures. They are simply not Australia, and should trying to imitate them. Did the same thing against SA after they were humiliated in the T20's and ODI's, dished up minefields.
They are prepared to lose ODI's but not Tests in their conditions.
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Whose fault is that?

We should now prepare pitches according to caliber of visiting bowlers?
 
Saurav said:
Whose fault is that?

We should now prepare pitches according to caliber of visiting bowlers?
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I'm sure teams like England, South Africa and New Zealand prepared greentops in the past keeping in mind whether the opposition team had swing bowlers in their ranks or not. There will be a proper intimation given to the opposition team and board before preparing green tops.:srini
 
England won't come anywhere near winning the series or even drawing it. Indians will be better prepared for Moeen Ali this time. And Ashwin & Jadeja are unplayable in Indian conditions

Expect a easy 3-1 win for India. England might win a test match somewhere, but overall the series will be dominated by Indian spinners
 
soso_killer said:
The question is not necessary how will England compete, but what will India do should the English compete?
India will revert to rank tuners should they lose the first Test or if the series is on the line with a match to go. (Of course the apologist will remark that the conditions are the same for all, neglecting the fact that England don't have Ashwin & Jadeja caliber players)
They have done so on numerous occasions, even when they had a great side for those home conditions. Lose the first Test, you get a rank turner in the second.

The BCCI wants to create a mini Australia i.e. go on the sequence of runs that Australia rack up. Australia went 15 years without losing a Test series at home. What i admire about the Aussies is that they'll play everyone instead of avoiding certain sides. I think India have only lost 3 home series in the last 16 years.
On paper that's good, but when we take a greater inspection, one will notice its the likes of Aus, NZ, ENG, SA who have dominated their home fixtures. They are simply not Australia, and should trying to imitate them. Did the same thing against SA after they were humiliated in the T20's and ODI's, dished up minefields.
They are prepared to lose ODI's but not Tests in their conditions.
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Explain this please?

Are you referring to India avoiding Pakistan at home?
 
Still 3 weeks away, can't wait for this series to begin. I want India to win at least by a 4-0 margin and tighten its grip on the #1 position. This, rather than the Australia tour is the biggest test. Having said that, the Australians are not people who take defeat lightly and I am sure they are planning and working on beating India in India.
 
Well England do have a long batting lineup so India will have to do quote well to beat these guys. They are pretty good at playing attritional cricket so we people will need to be a tad bit patient. Also they will be prepared going by the pitches they are encountering in Bangladesh. Also we as Indian fans will finally get to see d use of drs after a loooooong time in our tests. Quite stoked. Hope they use it wisely!!


Hoping for a cracker of a contest.
 
Fresh reports emerging from daily mail that James Anderson could now miss the first 3 tests as opposed to the first test against India. This could really be bad for the English as he is a top class bowler.

Also the Indians would be really wanting to take advantage of this and string a couple of victories.
 
England will do decently imo. Moeen's quicker pace and slightly flatter trajectory favours Indian conditions and I expect him to do well. India have also shown that they aren't the best at cleaning up the tail, and can let the game drift away, so England's insane batting depth will be a huge bonus.

India will still win but England will put up a much better fight than others have recently.
 
People still peddling rubbish about rank turners helping India. You're complete morons if you still think rank turners give India a huge advantage. As has been explained numerous times, dustbowls bring other teams' inferior spinners onto the same level as Ashwin and will cause India problems. If the pitches are typical SC pitches with good turn, India will win easily. If they are minefields like in 2012 England series ( especially Mumbai), then I expect England to cause lots of problems to India, just like they did 4 years ago. Square turners usually backfire on India and it's a shame, although not surprising that simpletons choose to ignore this.
 
When they can't even defeat Bangladesh the chances of them winning in India are next to nothing. India will win all tests within four days. England will have a decent chance in the one dayers and t 20 matches.
 
Need India to beat England by a margin in the ODIs to get closer to that #1 ODI ranking.
 
Bilal7 said:
Australia don't have the players to take advantage of the toss. Can't play or bowl spin at all.



Yes, because a team's plans and management of resources have never ever turned out awry before. :facepalm:

It's clear to anyone who has watched even a little of India's test performances at home that they are susceptible against spin and would struggle big time if Kohli hadn't won all six of his tosses, in the time that he's been captain.

You speak like a professional cricketer yourself, with the way you point fingers. I'm sure the likes of Dhawan and Awais Zia don't need to be told that they are hacks by someone like you, because they've played international cricket and you've probably never been on your school team. Let's also shut down this site because of course, fans are all "arm-chair experts" who can't make observations and analysis about the game. Noice!
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Your state of denial is exemplary. I understand you cant digest anything good regarding Indian performance but seriously, your last line of defense is TOSS? BTW Shikhar Dhawan might be a hack but certainly way ahead of Awais Zia, Shikhar HACK Dhawan has 40+ Avg in Test and ODI. He is hack by Indian standard, not by Pakistan:srini standard.
 
Crafty_Indian said:
Fresh reports emerging from daily mail that James Anderson could now miss the first 3 tests as opposed to the first test against India. This could really be bad for the English as he is a top class bowler.

Also the Indians would be really wanting to take advantage of this and string a couple of victories.
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What have you done? Now no matter India win in 3 days, white wash England in the most humiliated way, Since Anderson is not playing, Indian performance will be considered a fluke!!
 
Moeen Ali must be licking his chops.
 
2-1 or 3-1 to India. If England still had Swann and Monty I think they could win or draw the series, but the dearth of spin in England makes this mission impossible.
 
Should be easy victory if we play our best team

But that excludes Rohit and Ishant,both of whom are set to play :kohli
 
Warming up nicely for the long winter tour. Only thing that will worry them is the fitness of their pacers. With a slightly weak spin combination, they will rely heavily on the pacers. Can the pacers last a gruelling tour though is something England will have to ponder.

As of now, we have the edge and a 2-1 or 3-1 will be a good result. But Eng are very well capable of beating us if Cook and Root find form.
 
Robert said:
2-1 or 3-1 to India. If England still had Swann and Monty I think they could win or draw the series, but the dearth of spin in England makes this mission impossible.
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Moeen destroyed us in English pitches.Will do better in India

Not sure about Rashid and Batty though.
 
Saurav said:
Moeen destroyed us in English pitches.Will do better in India
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I think India's batsmen just got arrogant against Moeen that time, or were unmotivated. He does a bit more with the ball than some expect but he's no Swann, as his bowling average of 40+ shows.
 
Saurav said:
Should be easy victory if we play our best team

But that <b>excludes Rohit</b> and Ishant,both of whom are set to play :kohli
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Rohit had an average of 67.5 for the NZ tour, not too bad.
 
Xoib said:
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Vaughan said the same this morning. England keep getting reduced to 30-3, and their spin attack is mediocre at best. England might as well throw the young lad Hameed in to open, put Duckett at #4, drop Ballance and play four seamers according to their strength.
 
Worried about Stokes,Cook,Rashid to be honest but hopefully by the time they finish Bangladesh tour they are home-sick and find it hard to manage 5 tests here.
 
Series depends on what damage the england spinners can do to the Indian batting. I can see england being competative with the bat but the lack of decent spinners will see them lose the series, they wont get whitewashed though.
 
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Vaughan said the same this morning. England keep getting reduced to 30-3, and their spin attack is mediocre at best. England might as well throw the young lad Hameed in to open, put Duckett at #4, drop Ballance and play four seamers according to their strength.
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No of left handed batsmen would also play important part against Ashwin
 
India should win but England will have the underdog mentality going into this. If they can get the openers early and keep kohli quiet they have a chance.
 
Napa said:
Rohit had an average of 67.5 for the NZ tour, not too bad.
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Misleading numbers.Came in at comfortable positions everytime.

Anyway its more about playing 5 bowlers.England bat deep so will need an extra bowler.Can't depend too much on Ash and Jaddu
 
Enough of Gary Ballance ! Was lucky to earn a recall to begin with and with his technique, the way he's camped in his crease, is asking for trouble.

As [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] mentioned - Cook and Hameed can be the two stodgy openers, with Duckett at 4 and Bairstow who's one of the better players should swap with Moeen.
 
Saurav said:
Misleading numbers. <b>Came in at comfortable positions everytime.</b>

Anyway its more about playing 5 bowlers. England bat deep so will need an extra bowler. Can't depend too much on Ash and Jaddu
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That is not true. In the second test second innings, India were struggling till Rohit's 82 and Saha's 58* bailed them out.
 
One thing is for sure there will undoubtedly be some ugly scenes between the players. Umpires and referee will be busy.
 
Saj said:
One thing is for sure there will undoubtedly be some ugly scenes between the players. Umpires and referee will be busy.
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Shame that Anderson wouldn't be here to start physical altercation. Jadeja will be a relieved man.
 
Looking at the way England is doing in Bangladesh. Stokes and Ali will be their main performers.

Cook and Root will also perform as their slow start is being taken care of in BD. So India better prepare accordingly if they are to comprehensively beat the English. It won't be a walk in the park certainly as some here suggest.
 
All signs point towards a drubbing. Need to sort out the batting order; basically dropping Ballance, opening with Hameed, and playing either Buttler or Duckett in the middle order. Even that might not save them as it's certain Indians will easily plunder the likes of Ali, Rashid and Ansari for a pile of runs. Depends how well Broad, Woakes and Stokes are able to bowl dry and keep the run-rate under control.
 
Think we have the final answer on this.

Former Pakistan batting stalwart and coach Mohsin Khan believes Virat Kohli's Test team can inflict their second whitewash of the season on England against whom the hosts will play a five-Test series which kicks off in Rajkot on November 9. New Zealand suffered a 3-0 loss earlier this month in the Test series.

Mohsin, who was Pakistan's coach when Misbah-ul-Haq's team beat England 3-0 in the Gulf in 2012, reacted amusingly to the news of Saqlain Mushtaq being appointed as England's spin consultant for the India series.

"No one can teach a cricketer skills in a short space of time. I don't know what England have got in mind. They have off-spinner Moeen Ali, who is playing international cricket for the last three years. I can't understand what Saqlain will teach Moeen. Maybe, a little tips here and there may help," Mohsin remarked over the phone from Karachi.

He couldn't see England even drawing a single Test leave alone winning one on their winter tour of India. "Saqlain may advise the England spinners where to bowl, but the Indian batsmen are very good against spin. Hiring somebody for a few weeks doesn't make sense to me. At the most, Saqlain would come up with a few tips and provide some moral support," he added.

It can be recalled that England won a rare series in India when they were here in 2012-13 thanks to their spinners Graeme Swann and Monty Panesar. "They don't have quality spinners like Swann and Panesar," stressed Mohsin. "Also, India are playing very good cricket at the moment. England will have a very tough time and will have to play some fantastic cricket to beat India."

Mohsin (61), who was Pakistan's chief selector in 2010, guided the team as coach to Test series victories over Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and England in 2011 and 2012.

http://www.mid-day.com/articles/moh...-series-whitewashed-0-5-cricket-news/17719159
 
Crafty_Indian said:
Looking at the way England is doing in Bangladesh. Stokes and Ali will be their main performers.

Cook and Root will also perform as their slow start is being taken care of in BD. So India better prepare accordingly if they are to comprehensively beat the English. It won't be a walk in the park certainly as some here suggest.
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Don't write off Bairstow. Man is on purplest of patches.

It won't be a walk in the park certainly as some here suggest.
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It won't be but still India are absolute favorites.

England will have to play extraordinary cricket to draw. Winning is out of equation here :kapil
 
I want Amit Mishra in the team. Let's see how the English deal with his googlies.
 
Napa said:
I want Amit Mishra in the team. Let's see how the English deal with his googlies.
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Only if India play with 3 spinners which I don't see it happening unless India rolls out pitches like the ones for SA series.
 
King Kong said:
Only if India play with 3 spinners which I don't see it happening unless India rolls out pitches like the ones for SA series.
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5 bowlers in the team is possible. Depends upon how attacking India wants to be. I would even think about going with 3 spinners and Shami.
 
Actually coming to Bairstow's performance. He has been phenomenal this year but feel that he needs to capitalize more(as ridiculous as that sounds).

Reason being the ball goes soft around the 40th over mark which is generally around the time he is batting(England's customary 50/3) and it reverses also pretty late going by the BD games. So effectively he is batting at an easier time and hence must put up bigger scores. Although he seems to done decently against spin but there also I have some reservations and I want to see how he fares against a side that is relentless with spin(India) unlike BD who are inexperienced on that front taking nothing away from the BD spinners.
 
Napa said:
5 bowlers in the team is possible. Depends upon how attacking India wants to be. I would even think about going with 3 spinners and Shami.
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With Ash at 6, Saha at 7, Jaddu at 8, Mishy at 9 and Bhuvi at 10, its a pretty decent lower order. We could surely play with 2 pacers (Shami being the one left) and 3 spinners even on normal pitches.

The only fear is Kohli's love for Sharma ji.
 
Sidilicious said:
With Ash at 6, Saha at 7, Jaddu at 8, Mishy at 9 and Bhuvi at 10, its a pretty decent lower order. We could surely play with 2 pacers (Shami being the one left) and 3 spinners even on normal pitches.

The only fear is Kohli's love for Sharma ji.
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Spot on. In fact it is more necessary to go for 3 spinners + 2 pacers on slowish batting tracks. Also this being a 5 match series with hardly any gap between any two tests it becomes imperative to minimize the workload on our front line bowlers.

Because if any of our spinners ESP Ash breaks down then we will be seriously up against it.
 
This will be interesting now as to how prepared the English come for the India series.
Will they be mentally softened or more toughened up?
 
Crafty_Indian said:
This will be interesting now as to how prepared the English come for the India series.
Will they be mentally softened or more toughened up?
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I thought that the English side was quite poor when they couldn't beat Pak at home, and their latest loss to Bang only reinforces that opinion.

England would likely have been 0-2 in the series if the umpire had not made a mistake and given Ali not out when he was on 1 in the first Test.
 
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