How excited are Indian fans (or neutral fans) about the IPL?

[ShoonyaSifar]

Not sure from where did tractors come into this discussion. The thread is created on PakPassion website and OP is asking from both the IPL fans and neutrals here. Once again not sure from where did gate receipts come into this discussion? OP is asking from the members of this forum not the ones who are jumping up and down in front of the stadiums.

I was correct some of you only show enthusiasm in defending IPL but do not have anything to discuss when it comes to Pyjama League matches. You like IPL that is fine. Do not think its your personal property that no one can criticise it.

You IPL haters are really funny. Track every thread related to IPL and keep talking about it, mock those who are having fun during the IPL season and behave as if you are the sole cricket fans who should exist.

You carry on with the hate, we will continue to enjoy this cricket for the next 7 weeks.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You IPL haters are really funny. Track every thread related to IPL and keep talking about it, mock those who are having fun during the IPL season and behave as if you are the sole cricket fans who should exist.

You carry on with the hate, we will continue to enjoy this cricket for the next 7 weeks.

You IPL lovers are pretty funny as well. Want to quote anyone who doesn't like IPL. Take every criticism of IPL to heart yet don't have anything to discuss in the IPL match threads. Just shows how much you are enjoying your 2 months of boring Pyjama League matches.

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

You IPL lovers are pretty funny as well. Want to quote anyone who doesn't like IPL. Take every criticism of IPL to heart yet don't have anything to discuss in the IPL match threads. Just shows how much you are enjoying your 2 months of boring Pyjama League matches.

So no posts on IPL thread means no one is enjoying the matches. Awesome. Keep those gems coming

 

[Drreddymd]

You IPL lovers are pretty funny as well. Want to quote anyone who doesn't like IPL. Take every criticism of IPL to heart yet don't have anything to discuss in the IPL match threads. Just shows how much you are enjoying your 2 months of boring Pyjama League matches.

One thing i can say is that u r hate for ipl is stronger than our love for ipl based on u r logic that the no of posts should be taken as a criteria.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So no posts on IPL thread means no one is enjoying the matches. Awesome. Keep those gems coming

Read the thread title as slowly as you can. You can say it simply that you are not as excited to discuss these IPL matches as you are when you watch international matches.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

One thing i can say is that u r hate for ipl is stronger than our love for ipl based on u r logic that the no of posts should be taken as a criteria.

My dislike for IPL is genuine and your love for IPL is as fake as it can get.

 

[Drreddymd]

My dislike for IPL is genuine and your love for IPL is as fake as it can get.

Everybody knows u r hatred isn't it?

Haha. From now u will decide who is a genuine fan of ipl?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Everybody knows u r hatred isn't it?

Haha. From now u will decide who is a genuine fan of ipl?

Yeah just like you guys have the authority to decide who is a traitor and who is a patriot isn't it?

 

[rhony]

This !!!! I too don't know why but I genuinely enjoy watching BBL.........

Something about that league just gets me glued to the TV and I can literally watch highlights for an entire game without break. Can't even say the same about PSL though

BBL is more fun. The commentators, the stadiums and the overall atmosphere is just awesome

 

[Ph_11]

BBL is more fun. The commentators, the stadiums and the overall atmosphere is just awesome

Haters are gonna hate.

 

[big_gamer007]

Don't understand all the hate, if you don't like it don't watch it.. simple as that.. cribbing and hating it just shows how your life is..

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Read the thread title as slowly as you can. You can say it simply that you are not as excited to discuss these IPL matches as you are when you watch international matches.

Honest truth I am part of a 30+ person fantasy league of friends in the IPL....all actually involved.

On this board maybe the most vocal people are not IPL fans, but to think we are minority is folly.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Honest truth I am part of a 30+ person fantasy league of friends in the IPL....all actually involved.

On this board maybe the most vocal people are not IPL fans, but to think we are minority is folly.

IPL should institute a prize for the top 3 winners of the IPL fantasy league every year .. like say a new model car or whatever ? The viewership would just explode if people got wind of it. The BCCI are really missing a trick here.

 

[Junaids]

I'm looking forward to the IPL.

Obviously it's not popular enough to be broadcast here in Australia, but I'm still keen to follow how AB de Villiers does.

To be honest, I'd have thought it would have started by now. When does it get under way?

 

[shaz619]

I'm looking forward to the IPL.

Obviously it's not popular enough to be broadcast here in Australia, but I'm still keen to follow how AB de Villiers does.

To be honest, I'd have thought it would have started by now. When does it get under way?

What is the IPL Junaids

 

[Junaids]

What is the IPL Junaids

It should be good: usually it clashes with the business end of the European football season.

Is that why the IPL hasn't started yet? Waiting til after the football season?

 

[bleaf27]

It should be good: usually it clashes with the business end of the European football season.

Is that why the IPL hasn't started yet? Waiting til after the football season?

Oh it started last week bud, didn't know you were a fan too. Im sure you know Rashid khan got Signed by sunrisers and tahir joined Pune. Mumbai Indians are doing well so far! Hopefully a good game today Maxwell is in.
Pak commentators are missing though, I believe they are prepping for a Pakistani league to be introduced later this year in some other country I reckon

 

[Ph_11]

What is the IPL Junaids

t is a tournament in which cricket is played and causes extreme envy in certain parts of the world. As a matter of fact people become green with envy (pun intended).

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This thread has more replies than all the IPL match threads combined this year so far. It is surprising because there are dozens of IPL fans here too.

 

[Ph_11]

This thread has more replies than all the IPL match threads combined this year so far. It is surprising because there are dozens of IPL fans here too.

look at what Pakistan coach has to say abt IPL. I guess what does he know since you are the mighty cricket expert, the know all, the majestic one.

Test cricket is so boring that people can write about it in threads. In IPL you step away for a minute and the game changes.

Please keep on arguing, you keep me amused.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

look at what Pakistan coach has to say abt IPL. I guess what does he know since you are the mighty cricket expert, the know all, the majestic one.

Test cricket is so boring that people can write about it in threads. In IPL you step away for a minute and the game changes.

Please keep on arguing, you keep me amused.

You are crying as if I have snatched your toy. No need to get hurt I can criticise IPL.

 

[Ph_11]

You are crying as if I have snatched your toy. No need to get hurt I can criticise IPL.

Spend more energy being positive than negative.

 

[Junaids]

t is a tournament in which cricket is played and causes extreme envy in certain parts of the world. As a matter of fact people become green with envy (pun intended).

Very true!

So it's already under way? That went a bit under the radar in Australia!

Do the Indian players tend to play for the team in their own area? Kolkata Knight Riders, Bombay Baywatch, Ranchi Remington Steel, Delhi Dukes of Hazzard, etc? And are the Cement Super Fixers back yet?

And do people accept the franchise model? We've seen in England that people don't want concocted fake teams - nobody wants Leeds instead of Yorkshire - and in Australia nobody over the age of 6 seriously thinks that the Melbourne Mavericks are somehow more rebellious than the Melbourne Mongolians.

 

[Tusker]

Very true!

So it's already under way? That went a bit under the radar in Australia!

Do the Indian players tend to play for the team in their own area? Kolkata Knight Riders, Bombay Baywatch, Ranchi Remington Steel, Delhi Dukes of Hazzard, etc? And are the Cement Super Fixers back yet?

And do people accept the franchise model? We've seen in England that people don't want concocted fake teams - nobody wants Leeds instead of Yorkshire - and in Australia nobody over the age of 6 seriously thinks that the Melbourne Mavericks are somehow more rebellious than the Melbourne Mongolians.

lol ... never knew you could Troll ... Bombay Baywatch ehhh?? )

 

[Ph_11]

Very true!

So it's already under way? That went a bit under the radar in Australia!

Do the Indian players tend to play for the team in their own area? Kolkata Knight Riders, Bombay Baywatch, Ranchi Remington Steel, Delhi Dukes of Hazzard, etc? And are the Cement Super Fixers back yet?

And do people accept the franchise model? We've seen in England that people don't want concocted fake teams - nobody wants Leeds instead of Yorkshire - and in Australia nobody over the age of 6 seriously thinks that the Melbourne Mavericks are somehow more rebellious than the Melbourne Mongolians.

It is indeed underway and billions of people are enjoying it.

You are indeed down under in information too so dont fault you guys for not knowing it.

It is a unique model where people do associate with cities. I happen to like Delhi.

It will be more successful than lot of other european clubs and the valuations already exceed many european leagues.

Players in India are free to play anywhere. As a matter of fact there are some Aussies playing too.

In few years it will be a 16 team league with six month window.

The players who routinely beat your Pakistan team are also participating.

Please do not hesitate to ask any questions. We are here to help.

Do you get a decent reception in bush?

 

[Chrish]

IPL fans have as much IQ as the guys who came up with the team names..

 

[Junaids]

It is indeed underway and billions of people are enjoying it.

You are indeed down under in information too so dont fault you guys for not knowing it.

It is a unique model where people do associate with cities. I happen to like Delhi.

It will be more successful than lot of other european clubs and the valuations already exceed many european leagues.

Players in India are free to play anywhere. As a matter of fact there are some Aussies playing too.

In few years it will be a 16 team league with six month window.

The players who routinely beat your Pakistan team are also participating.

Please do not hesitate to ask any questions. We are here to help.

Do you get a decent reception in bush?

Players who routinely beat Pakistan? That doesn't narrow it down much then!

I enjoyed the IPL the year they showed it in Australia. I seem to recall Asif opening the bowling with a retired McGrath.

Do they still exhume retired washed-up cricketers like Shane Watson for the IPL? The BBL does that too - a podgy and be-wigged Jacques Kallis. By that stage the old adage that

Sachin Tendulkar + Zaheer Khan = Jacques Kallis

......was starting to look like it was denominated in kilograms!

 

[bleaf27]

IPL fans have as much IQ as the guys who came up with the team names..

Really eh ?
IPL - Superkings , KnightRiders , Daredevils , Lions seem prety legible and easy to comprehend
BBL - Stars, Heat , Renegades Strikers , Hurricanes - Uh I'm gonna go out on a limb and say similar if not harder to comprehend for a lot of subcontinent fans
PSL - Kalandar , Zalmi , Gladiator .....

Uh I'm really not sure what your point is.

 

[Junaids]

Really eh ?
IPL - Superkings , KnightRiders , Daredevils , Lions seem prety legible and easy to comprehend
BBL - Stars, Heat , Renegades Strikers , Hurricanes - Uh I'm gonna go out on a limb and say similar if not harder to comprehend for a lot of subcontinent fans
PSL - Kalandar , Zalmi , Gladiator .....

Uh I'm really not sure what your point is.

They all sound like they were invented by somebody who is a couple of hampers short of a picnic.

Are the games aimed at people too disinterested in cricket to watch Melbourne v Sydney unless the Renegades are playing the Strikers?

 

[bleaf27]

Very true!

So it's already under way? That went a bit under the radar in Australia!

Do the Indian players tend to play for the team in their own area? Kolkata Knight Riders, Bombay Baywatch, Ranchi Remington Steel, Delhi Dukes of Hazzard, etc? And are the Cement Super Fixers back yet?

And do people accept the franchise model? We've seen in England that people don't want concocted fake teams - nobody wants Leeds instead of Yorkshire - and in Australia nobody over the age of 6 seriously thinks that the Melbourne Mavericks are somehow more rebellious than the Melbourne Mongolians.

Uh you aren't much familiar with the English geography then mate . Leeds is in Yorkshire - It's a city - Yorkshire is a county. Bombay Baywatch is catchy but ey they didn't have much of an option when Qalandar , Bandar , Zalmi , Kabootar , Khachhar all the indigenous names were taken by the soon to be launched Pakistani league this year I believe. Copyright issues are big nowdays bruh

 

[Ellipsism]

Really eh ?
IPL - Superkings , KnightRiders , Daredevils , Lions seem prety legible and easy to comprehend
BBL - Stars, Heat , Renegades Strikers , Hurricanes - Uh I'm gonna go out on a limb and say similar if not harder to comprehend for a lot of subcontinent fans
PSL - Kalandar , Zalmi , Gladiator .....

Uh I'm really not sure what your point is.

At least a few of the team names in the PSL have something that alludes to an attribute of the city, e.g. Lahore Qalandars and Peshawar Zalmi.

To what extent does does supergiants have anything to do with Pune or KnightRiders with Kolkata?

 

[bleaf27]

They all sound like they were invented by somebody who is a couple of hampers short of a picnic.

Are the games aimed at people too disinterested in cricket to watch Melbourne v Sydney unless the Renegades are playing the Strikers?

Don't know , I wouldn't think marketing works like that . When you are looking to cater to an audience in millions , couple thousand fans of a league in Australia wouldn't be the criteria. I'm sure NRI and non resident Pakistani's like you also do follow your native tournies quite well

 

[bleaf27]

At least a few of the team names in the PSL something that alludes to an attribute of the city, e.g. Lahore Qalandars and Peshawar Zalmi.

To what extent does does supergiants have anything to do with Pune or KnightRiders with Kolkata?

So if the names allude to some attribution to the city or its people I rather be associated with a team called Knightriders or Supergiants than Kalandar and Zalmi . Neither Kalandar or Zalmi seems like it has any sort of positive connotation to it and is definitely not a name which is aimed at an international audience which IPL does cater too.

 

[Junaids]

Uh you aren't much familiar with the English geography then mate . Leeds is in Yorkshire - It's a city - Yorkshire is a county. Bombay Baywatch is catchy but ey they didn't have much of an option when Qalandar , Bandar , Zalmi , Kabootar , Khachhar all the indigenous names were taken by the soon to be launched Pakistani league this year I believe. Copyright issues are big nowdays bruh

My friend, that's not my point.

The ECB is reportedly astonished that over a million different listeners have tuned into radio coverage of the first round of four Day County Championship matches.

I grew up in Lancashire, where our grudge match is against Yorkshire. It even used to be broadcast on ITV - with Martin Tyler commentating!

It means something for the count of Brian Statham and Clive Lloyd to beat the county of Fred Trueman and Geoff Boycott.

It will mean nothing if Manchester Munchkins beat Leeds Leopards. Especially because people from Liverpool and Sheffield would not support a Manchester or Leeds team, even though Liverpool is a Lancs stronghold and Sheffield is a Yorkshire one.

 

[Junaids]

t is a tournament in which cricket is played and causes extreme envy in certain parts of the world. As a matter of fact people become green with envy (pun intended).

So if the names allude to some attribution to the city or its people I rather be associated with a team called Knightriders or Supergiants than Kalandar and Zalmi . Neither Kalandar or Zalmi seems like it has any sort of positive connotation to it and is definitely not a name which is aimed at an international audience which IPL does cater too.

IPL caters for an international audience? Do they broadcast live by smoke signal? In Australia it's not on TV at all, and in NZ it's half hour highlights at 4 am! In the U.K. After Sky bought the rights the ratings fell too low to be measurable.

I doubt that even 1,000 white cricket fans on earth watch any IPL matches.

 

[bleaf27]

My friend, that's not my point.

The ECB is reportedly astonished that over a million different listeners have tuned into radio coverage of the first round of four Day County Championship matches.

I grew up in Lancashire, where our grudge match is against Yorkshire. It even used to be broadcast on ITV - with Martin Tyler commentating!

It means something for the count of Brian Statham and Clive Lloyd to beat the county of Fred Trueman and Geoff Boycott.

It will mean nothing if Manchester Munchkins beat Leeds Leopards. Especially because people from Liverpool and Sheffield would not support a Manchester or Leeds team, even though Liverpool is a Lancs stronghold and Sheffield is a Yorkshire one.

I'v spend my fair time in Leeds as well lad and Leeds United does have quite a special place and so does Sheffield Wednesday. You cannot compare one sport with another. Yorkshire CCC has over a 100 yr old history and you can't discount that. different leagues and different divisions

 

[Ellipsism]

So if the names allude to some attribution to the city or its people I rather be associated with a team called Knightriders or Supergiants than Kalandar and Zalmi . Neither Kalandar or Zalmi seems like it has any sort of positive connotation to it and is definitely not a name which is aimed at an international audience which IPL does cater too.

Every other tournament has those clichè names like the Thunderbolts, Giants or Kings etc.

Names like Qalandars or Zalmi gives the franchise a sense of identity.

Anyhow, I don't see much of an international audience for most leagues.

 

[bleaf27]

IPL caters for an international audience? Do they broadcast live by smoke signal? In Australia it's not on TV at all, and in NZ it's half hour highlights at 4 am! In the U.K. After Sky bought the rights the ratings fell too low to be measurable.

I doubt that even 1,000 white cricket fans on earth watch any IPL matches.

Either you haven't made an effort to look into it or I'll just have to do a bit more work for you.
In the US / Canada - Willow Primary channel is telecasting it quite well. I stream it quite well everyday even though starts at 10 am for me and I'm usually seeing patients by then
In the UK - Sky sports
NZ - Sky NZ
Other Asian countries - Sony Pictures Network

http://www.iplt20.com/news/88236/vi...global-broadcasters-for-fans-across-the-world

Well considering that the games are being played in IST , the time of live broadcast around the world wouldn't be uniform to say the least. Any subcontinent game for that matter is always in the evening.

In Canada and US only, with the Indian population solely - you're smart enough to guess the number. As for the white cricket fans - no way to deduce that information

 

[Ph_11]

IPL caters for an international audience? Do they broadcast live by smoke signal? In Australia it's not on TV at all, and in NZ it's half hour highlights at 4 am! In the U.K. After Sky bought the rights the ratings fell too low to be measurable.

I doubt that even 1,000 white cricket fans on earth watch any IPL matches.

I think more than 50 years back you got freedom but white cricket fans is the yardstick you use.

Australia and New Zealand markets are not money making places for us.

The good players from Aus and NZ are all in this tournament.

 

[Ph_11]

My friend, that's not my point.

The ECB is reportedly astonished that over a million different listeners have tuned into radio coverage of the first round of four Day County Championship matches.

I grew up in Lancashire, where our grudge match is against Yorkshire. It even used to be broadcast on ITV - with Martin Tyler commentating!

It means something for the count of Brian Statham and Clive Lloyd to beat the county of Fred Trueman and Geoff Boycott.

It will mean nothing if Manchester Munchkins beat Leeds Leopards. Especially because people from Liverpool and Sheffield would not support a Manchester or Leeds team, even though Liverpool is a Lancs stronghold and Sheffield is a Yorkshire one.

It is your kind who keep cricket behind. These counties mean nothing to us. There end product is inferior and we beat them like a step child in their back yards,

 

[Junaids]

t is a tournament in which cricket is played and causes extreme envy in certain parts of the world. As a matter of fact people become green with envy (pun intended).

I think more than 50 years back you got freedom but white cricket fans is the yardstick you use.

Australia and New Zealand markets are not money making places for us.

The good players from Aus and NZ are all in this tournament.

So if the names allude to some attribution to the city or its people I rather be associated with a team called Knightriders or Supergiants than Kalandar and Zalmi . Neither Kalandar or Zalmi seems like it has any sort of positive connotation to it and is definitely not a name which is aimed at an international audience which IPL does cater too.

Now I'm confused!

The argument was that stupid cliched names need to be used for a foreign audience.

But the foreign audience appears to be people of Indian/Pakistani origin!

 

[bleaf27]

Now I'm confused!

The argument was that stupid cliched names need to be used for a foreign audience.

But the foreign audience appears to be people of Indian/Pakistani origin!

you've got it wrong - cliche names are meant for the India Pakistani audience - Qalandar , Zalmi ala desi junta names - heck, I am unable to understand those names let alone the foreign audience.

Names like Supergiants / Knightriders are more for a global audience - I'd take em too . Knightrider was one of the fav shows back then too - Zoom Zoom !

 

[Ellipsism]

So now I dont understand.

IPL has allowed the Indian players to adopt the 'modern' way of batting- but that didn't come overnight, the results where starting to show after 6-7 seasons. However, results like these aren't exclusive to the almighty IPL, for the change in batting to be seen in a national team, players would have to feature in a league of high quality- (IPL, BBL and CPL) for at least five seasons.

Pakistani's being deprived of the chance to feature in high quality leagues have consequently resorted to playing in low quality leagues where pitches/condition are conducive to the 'modern' way of batting and that's reflected in the Pakistani batting style, barely managing to cross 300- which is a measly score in the modern day and age.

 

[Junaids]

lol ... never knew you could Troll ... Bombay Baywatch ehhh?? )

Really? But I do it to you all the time!

Seriously, "Knight Riders" is a name well and truly in comedy territory.

They might as well be called "I'm Free, Mr Humphreys".

Any American or British person born between 1965 and 1975 would think the name is comically moronic.

 

[Tusker]

Really? But I do it to you all the time!

Seriously, "Knight Riders" is a name well and truly in comedy territory.

They might as well be called "I'm Free, Mr Humphreys".

Any American or British person born between 1965 and 1975 would think the name is comically moronic.

Well if you are trolling me .... then I suppose 90% of your posting is all trolling then ?

 

[bleaf27]

Really? But I do it to you all the time!

Seriously, "Knight Riders" is a name well and truly in comedy territory.

They might as well be called "I'm Free, Mr Humphreys".

Any American or British person born between 1965 and 1975 would think the name is comically moronic.

Certainly not, Your sense of humor is quite weird if you find KnightRiders as a name funny ?
Even though I'm quite intrigued by the 1965-1975 age year that you have mentioned however that exactly is the age group who in their teens and early 20s went crazy for "Knightriders" the TV show. My cousins are in that age group and I'v seen a lot of posters of KnightRiders as it was quite popular back then. Hasselhoff created a career out of it and Germany surely wasn't laughing except for his acting skills.
A team in the carribean also shares the same name so I'm really missing your point.

 

[Ellipsism]

Certainly not, Your sense of humor is quite weird if you find KnightRiders as a name funny ?
Even though I'm quite intrigued by the 1965-1975 age year that you have mentioned however that exactly is the age group who in their teens and early 20s went crazy for "Knightriders" the TV show. My cousins are in that age group and I'v seen a lot of posters of KnightRiders as it was quite popular back then. Hasselhoff created a career out of it and Germany surely wasn't laughing except for his acting skills.
A team in the carribean also shares the same name so I'm really missing your point.

The fact that a CPL team has the exact same name proves his point- cliche overused names that allow for no sense of identity for the franchise.

 

[bleaf27]

The fact that a CPL team has the exact same name proves his point- cliche overused names that allow for no sense of identity for the franchise.

Now i may not know who came up with it first and 2 teams having had the same names doesn't make it overused.
Texas Rangers and New York Rangers ( Rooting for them , screw montreal)
New York Giants and San Francisco Giants
Los Angeles Kings and Sacramento Kings
New York Jets and Winnipeg jets

These are some of the teams I follow on top of my head but I'm sure it's quite a big list. You do realize more than one sports team in the world can liken the same name

 

[Junaids]

Certainly not, Your sense of humor is quite weird if you find KnightRiders as a name funny ?
Even though I'm quite intrigued by the 1965-1975 age year that you have mentioned however that exactly is the age group who in their teens and early 20s went crazy for "Knightriders" the TV show. My cousins are in that age group and I'v seen a lot of posters of KnightRiders as it was quite popular back then. Hasselhoff created a career out of it and Germany surely wasn't laughing except for his acting skills.
A team in the carribean also shares the same name so I'm really missing your point.

Knight Rider was a staple of early Saturday evening TV in England, exactly the same as Baywatch, CHiPS, The A Team and the Dukes of Hazzard in the same slot.

All four shows were viewed as mindless entertainment for the intellectually challenged or for young people who were "sharpening up" for a night out by getting semi-drunk before they left home (to save on the cost of drinks). All were on ITV except DOH was on BBC1.

I enjoyed them as much as anyone, but they were objects of ridicule.

You wouldn't name your sports team after them. You wouldn't even name your dog after them!

For people to think that they were cool or respected is just funny. They were a joke shared by drunks and people at the shallow end of the Brain pool.

 

[Ph_11]

Knight Rider was a staple of early Saturday evening TV in England, exactly the same as Baywatch, CHiPS, The A Team and the Dukes of Hazzard in the same slot.

All four shows were viewed as mindless entertainment for the intellectually challenged or for young people who were "sharpening up" for a night out by getting semi-drunk before they left home (to save on the cost of drinks). All were on ITV except DOH was on BBC1.

I enjoyed them as much as anyone, but they were objects of ridicule.

You wouldn't name your sports team after them. You wouldn't even name your dog after them!

For people to think that they were cool or respected is just funny. They were a joke shared by drunks and people at the shallow end of the Brain pool.

It is our team and our sport. What gives you a right to tell us how we name them. You dont like these names it is fine. We enjoy it. As a matter of fact Knight Rider car KITT was amazing. Trans Am was my favorite car. You enjoy your Qallandars and let us njoy ours. You have stoped so low that you find it funny to make fun of names.

 

[Ph_11]

The fact that a CPL team has the exact same name proves his point- cliche overused names that allow for no sense of identity for the franchise.

It takes times to develope identity. These names would be routine and we are happy. There are multiple teams with the name tigers whether tiger is a native animal to the west or not.

 

[bleaf27]

Knight Rider was a staple of early Saturday evening TV in England, exactly the same as Baywatch, CHiPS, The A Team and the Dukes of Hazzard in the same slot.

All four shows were viewed as mindless entertainment for the intellectually challenged or for young people who were "sharpening up" for a night out by getting semi-drunk before they left home (to save on the cost of drinks). All were on ITV except DOH was on BBC1.

I enjoyed them as much as anyone, but they were objects of ridicule.

You wouldn't name your sports team after them. You wouldn't even name your dog after them!

For people to think that they were cool or respected is just funny. They were a joke shared by drunks and people at the shallow end of the Brain pool.

intellectualy challenged ? That's quite demeaning to a big chunk of population who enjoyed a TV show mind you in 1980s it was quite advanced for its time. I'm sorry if you are mistaking that show for "Out of this world" or Small wonder by any chance. Your disdain for these shows might be quite particular to you and not necessarily for a large chunk of population as you claim. You are quite quick to make judgements. I'm not how you speak on behalf of a whole generation ?

They certainly weren't objects of ridicule , far from it. They were a good part of growing up and again for the genre they were , quite an enjoyable experience. You may not name a dog after it but I certainly do find the teams named after it enjoyable and nostalgic. To each its own eh , I prefer the name Knightrider for example than Qalandar. What my thoughts are on those juvenile names is nobodys concern but mine.

 

[Junaids]

I'm not meaning to offend [MENTION=142864]bleaf27[/MENTION] or [MENTION=143230]Ph_11[/MENTION] and I'm sincerely sorry if I have.

I think this has just exposed a cultural gap between people from the subcontinent and the UK/Australia/New Zealand.

It's a bit like when Mohammad Fayad put up a statue of Whacko Jacko at Fulham Football Club. Some things which seem cool in some places are an embarrassment in others.

But there's a serious point here. When you call a sports team the "Knight Riders" you basically make your team a joke in England / Australia / New Zealand / South Africa.

 

[bleaf27]

I'm not meaning to offend [MENTION=142864]bleaf27[/MENTION] or [MENTION=143230]Ph_11[/MENTION] and I'm sincerely sorry if I have.

I think this has just exposed a cultural gap between people from the subcontinent and the UK/Australia/New Zealand.

It's a bit like when Mohammad Fayad put up a statue of Whacko Jacko at Fulham Football Club. Some things which seem cool in some places are an embarrassment in others.

But there's a serious point here. When you call a sports team the "Knight Riders" you basically make your team a joke in England / Australia / New Zealand / South Africa.

Wait now I'm confused so who's here from the subcontinent and who's here from the UK/Aus/NZ ?
And again I'm sorry but neither are you an Aussie or an Englishman or a South African so I am not sure how you speak on behalf of anyone but yourself

 

[Belawal2014]

Very true!

So it's already under way? That went a bit under the radar in Australia!

Do the Indian players tend to play for the team in their own area? Kolkata Knight Riders, Bombay Baywatch, Ranchi Remington Steel, Delhi Dukes of Hazzard, etc? And are the Cement Super Fixers back yet?

And do people accept the franchise model? We've seen in England that people don't want concocted fake teams - nobody wants Leeds instead of Yorkshire - and in Australia nobody over the age of 6 seriously thinks that the Melbourne Mavericks are somehow more rebellious than the Melbourne Mongolians.

lol at Bombay Baywatch and Cement Super Fixers ). Very Cheeky [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

 

[Ph_11]

I'm not meaning to offend [MENTION=142864]bleaf27[/MENTION] or [MENTION=143230]Ph_11[/MENTION] and I'm sincerely sorry if I have.

I think this has just exposed a cultural gap between people from the subcontinent and the UK/Australia/New Zealand.

It's a bit like when Mohammad Fayad put up a statue of Whacko Jacko at Fulham Football Club. Some things which seem cool in some places are an embarrassment in others.

But there's a serious point here. When you call a sports team the "Knight Riders" you basically make your team a joke in England / Australia / New Zealand / South Africa.

You think your comments are cute but I do know the game you are playing. All you have is your trolling motor turbo charged. The hate and dislike in your comments cannot be camoflauged. You keep on demeaning names and you think there is humour to that. Then you take a cheap shot by saying has the IPL started? What does that tell me about a character like you cannot be put in words.

We dont go around making fun of your names. We wish you success but your hate takes over.

Your apologies are fake like your comments.

If I do this to you I would be banned on this forum in nano seconds. I am trying to maintain decorum but tthat sometimes is not possible.

 

[Junaids]

Wait now I'm confused so who's here from the subcontinent and who's here from the UK/Aus/NZ ?
And again I'm sorry but neither are you an Aussie or an Englishman or a South African so I am not sure how you speak on behalf of anyone but yourself

I guess ultimately it's all about business.

Clubs like Manchester United go out of their way to optimise their appeal in China or Japan - to the extent of buying Kagawa.

England is cricket's second biggest market, and if the IPL felt it needed to appeal to Brits of non-Indian origin they would have quickly learned precisely what I've written about having "Knight Riders" as a brand.

Clearly the IPL doesn't feel it needs a British audience, and that's fine. The lack of effort to get it shown in Australia and New Zealand tells a similar story. This is a league squarely targeted at resident and non-resident Indians.

 

[bleaf27]

I guess ultimately it's all about business.

Clubs like Manchester United go out of their way to optimise their appeal in China or Japan - to the extent of buying Kagawa.

England is cricket's second biggest market, and if the IPL felt it needed to appeal to Brits of non-Indian origin they would have quickly learned precisely what I've written about having "Knight Riders" as a brand.

Clearly the IPL doesn't feel it needs a British audience, and that's fine. The lack of effort to get it shown in Australia and New Zealand tells a similar story. This is a league squarely targeted at resident and non-resident Indians.

Not necessarily true NBA hasn't made a sustained effort but Satnam is quite popular there now. There are quite a number of local kids who are following in the steps and even though toronto's got the only NBA team , Sim bhullar has made it in despite the fact that NBA extension in Canada is always overlooked.
Sports is impartial , it touches a nerve to anyone who has a liking to it. Cricket even though quite limited has garnered a good following all over . KnightRiders has no implication to it's appeal to the British - British or SA or whicever nation would identify more with a name like Knightriders or Giants rather than Zalmi or Qalandar which even the locals wouldn't. Again you don't speak for the whole Brit population regardless of their ethnic backgrounds mate. Your opinion could very well be solely, yours only.
On the contrary I actually feel with the way IPL has marketed itself , it's reach is quite good internationally because BBL and Carribean league haven't expanded beyond their shores at this point. Quite possible not the same reach in NZ and Australia at this point though which is fair enough. Like you said it's a buisness - that's for the MBA's to figure out - sports and teams are for anyone who'd like to jump on

 

[Junaids]

Well if you are trolling me .... then I suppose 90% of your posting is all trolling then ?

I think "trolling" is something nasty and a bit vindictive.

Like any northerner in England, I was taught that the best debates feature the use of humour and exaggeration. But not animosity or hostility. I enjoy debating with you about the past! And I'm well aware how often you beat me.

But I'm disappointed that making fun of some silly names on this thread has caused genuine offence. I actually thought that the KKR name was intended to be a joke.

 

[Ph_11]

I think "trolling" is something nasty and a bit vindictive.

Like any northerner in England, I was taught that the best debates feature the use of humour and exaggeration. But not animosity or hostility. I enjoy debating with you about the past! And I'm well aware how often you beat me.

But I'm disappointed that making fun of some silly names on this thread has caused genuine offence. I actually thought that the KKR name was intended to be a joke.

Asking if IPL has started is compassion? You came in negative. Humor is fine demeaning is bad. All I can say is if I make fun of names of PSL teams I would be banned.

You were pushing the envelope way beyond the limits of civility.

 

[bleaf27]

I think "trolling" is something nasty and a bit vindictive.

Like any northerner in England, I was taught that the best debates feature the use of humour and exaggeration. But not animosity or hostility. I enjoy debating with you about the past! And I'm well aware how often you beat me.

But I'm disappointed that making fun of some silly names on this thread has caused genuine offence. I actually thought that the KKR name was intended to be a joke.

Bruv I find it amusing that even some of the Pakistani people I know cringe quite bad at Qalandar and Zalmi name which to be fair even the lowest echelon population wouldn't want to be associated with even in Pak let alone in any other country. Again personal opinions, someone might wanna rock a jersey with Qalandar written on it and some might wanna have one with Knightrider on it. To each it's own.

 

[Junaids]

Bruv I find it amusing that even some of the Pakistani people I know cringe quite bad at Qalandar and Zalmi name which to be fair even the lowest echelon population wouldn't want to be associated with even in Pak let alone in any other country. Again personal opinions, someone might wanna rock a jersey with Qalandar written on it and some might wanna have one with Knightrider on it. To each it's own.

I can assure you, I have no idea whatsoever what Qalander or Zalmi mean!

 

[Tusker]

I think "trolling" is something nasty and a bit vindictive.

Like any northerner in England, I was taught that the best debates feature the use of humour and exaggeration. But not animosity or hostility. I enjoy debating with you about the past! And I'm well aware how often you beat me.

I don't like to look at it that way and keep scores !! ... I genuinely come here to enhance my cricket know-how and indulge in a bit of banter with our "beloved" neighbors.

But I'm disappointed that making fun of some silly names on this thread has caused genuine offence. I actually thought that the KKR name was intended to be a joke.

Humor that most Westerners identify with doesn't come easily to most Asian people born and raised in Asia ... and our sensitivities are vastly different. This is why you have run into this situation. But to be honest I didn't know that the name Knight Riders attracts ridicule ( not that I care )

 

[Junaids]

L

Not necessarily true NBA hasn't made a sustained effort but Satnam is quite popular there now. There are quite a number of local kids who are following in the steps and even though toronto's got the only NBA team , Sim bhullar has made it in despite the fact that NBA extension in Canada is always overlooked.
Sports is impartial , it touches a nerve to anyone who has a liking to it. Cricket even though quite limited has garnered a good following all over . KnightRiders has no implication to it's appeal to the British - British or SA or whicever nation would identify more with a name like Knightriders or Giants rather than Zalmi or Qalandar which even the locals wouldn't. Again you don't speak for the whole Brit population regardless of their ethnic backgrounds mate. Your opinion could very well be solely, yours only.
On the contrary I actually feel with the way IPL has marketed itself , it's reach is quite good internationally because BBL and Carribean league haven't expanded beyond their shores at this point. Quite possible not the same reach in NZ and Australia at this point though which is fair enough. Like you said it's a buisness - that's for the MBA's to figure out - sports and teams are for anyone who'd like to jump on

With respect, people like us are far better qualified than people with MBAs to understand the business future of sport.

I would make the following points:

1. Sports like English football and American football/baseball/basketball will always thrive in the original markets in which boys grow up immersed in them.

2. In general, short high-scoring sports (basketball, American football, baseball, T20 cricket) may be popular in home markets but are forgotten thirty seconds later, so they can't spread to international markets. That's why a person in Brazil or Bulgaria could recognise twenty international footballers but no American team sport players at all.

Point 2 is why nobody who isn't subcontinental follows IPL, and why nobody in England could name a single BBL team's three most famous players.

Point 1 is why cricket and rugby will never
expand to new markets, ever. China will never take it up, and in the USA it will be followed by Indians and West Indians.

IPL has been great at harnessing the love of cricket in Indians at home and overseas - and when I use the word Indians I'm including Bangladeshis and Pakistanis too.

 

[Napa]

IPL names, while sometimes seriously stupid (like KKR) have a certain logic to them. If the name was in Hindi, it would not appeal to Southern Indians given the political struggle that has occurred over language in India. As a very diverse country with 22 major languages, English is a sort of a neutral compromise.

 

[Jabo]

0
Never liked it
Same with the PSL

BBL
CPL

Are better

 

[Ph_11]

0
Never liked it
Same with the PSL

BBL
CPL

Are better

Can you give any supporting evidence that BBL and CPL are better than IPL or PSL.

 

[Napa]

2. In general, short high-scoring sports (basketball, American football, baseball, T20 cricket) may be popular in home markets but are forgotten thirty seconds later, so they can't spread to international markets. That's why a person in Brazil or Bulgaria could recognise twenty international footballers but no American team sport players at all.

Your logic is weak. If there were a dozen Brazilian players with multi-million dollar contracts in the NFL, then Brazilians would indeed know about NFL players. However, there are no such players hence no recognition.

A better comparison would be Puerto Rico. Do Puerto Ricans play in the MLB and do Puerto Ricans recognize MLB players? Yes, and yes.

Similarly Australians, English, NZ and SA fans will be following their top players in the IPL.

 

[Napa]

Can you give any supporting evidence that BBL and CPL are better than IPL or PSL.

As IPL has the most lucrative contracts, it attracts top players who strive to perform at their highest level.

 

[Napa]

You are crying as if I have snatched your toy. No need to get hurt I can criticise IPL.

You like cricket but you don't like seeing Kohli and ABD bat at the same time? You don't like the contest between Krunal Pandya and ABD (21 balls, 17 runs, 3 outs)? Quite prejudiced if I may say so.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

In an argument between a Brit and an Indian, posters have started mudslinging PSL franchises and their names

 

[Ph_11]

In an argument between a Brit and an Indian, posters have started mudslinging PSL franchises and their names

I have never said a single bad thing about PSL ever. I think it is a graet tournament and wish it success.

 

[Ph_11]

L

With respect, people like us are far better qualified than people with MBAs to understand the business future of sport.

I would make the following points:

1. Sports like English football and American football/baseball/basketball will always thrive in the original markets in which boys grow up immersed in them.

2. In general, short high-scoring sports (basketball, American football, baseball, T20 cricket) may be popular in home markets but are forgotten thirty seconds later, so they can't spread to international markets. That's why a person in Brazil or Bulgaria could recognise twenty international footballers but no American team sport players at all.

Point 2 is why nobody who isn't subcontinental follows IPL, and why nobody in England could name a single BBL team's three most famous players.

Point 1 is why cricket and rugby will never
expand to new markets, ever. China will never take it up, and in the USA it will be followed by Indians and West Indians.

IPL has been great at harnessing the love of cricket in Indians at home and overseas - and when I use the word Indians I'm including Bangladeshis and Pakistanis too.

How does anyone make this claim. Do you even know what you are talking about? Have you ever seen a single baseball game. Baseball games gets etched in memory like any other sport.

It may come as a shock to you but any single basaball player on the bases or outfield is a better athlete than any cricket player.

Quality of play in baseball is head and shoulder above that of cricket.

You have no clue what baseball is about. Very ill infomed comment.

 

[Ph_11]

Anyone who feels that Geoff Boycott was an epitome of athletic ability or a sport has no idea what sports are.

 

[bleaf27]

L

With respect, people like us are far better qualified than people with MBAs to understand the business future of sport.

I would make the following points:

1. Sports like English football and American football/baseball/basketball will always thrive in the original markets in which boys grow up immersed in them.

2. In general, short high-scoring sports (basketball, American football, baseball, T20 cricket) may be popular in home markets but are forgotten thirty seconds later, so they can't spread to international markets. That's why a person in Brazil or Bulgaria could recognise twenty international footballers but no American team sport players at all.

Point 2 is why nobody who isn't subcontinental follows IPL, and why nobody in England could name a single BBL team's three most famous players.

Point 1 is why cricket and rugby will never
expand to new markets, ever. China will never take it up, and in the USA it will be followed by Indians and West Indians.

IPL has been great at harnessing the love of cricket in Indians at home and overseas - and when I use the word Indians I'm including Bangladeshis and Pakistanis too.

I agree regarding who can design the future of the sport but to their credit, I'd say you do need some buisnsess acumen and cant' say I'm well qualified for that yet.
1 ) I agree on the first point. Well to be fair any sport which you are immersed in when growing up you will be into it because that's where your heroes come from . Cricket in Subcontinent - Ice Hockey in Canada , American Football in the US and Football in the UK and so on.
2) Traditionally with Radio's and TVs with minimal channels and no internet back in the day sports survived - from the late 1800s to early 1900s the original 6 in the NHL to NYY and BWS these teams had their following. but nowadays sports have a bigger reach . Ofcourse with the history of a sport to a certain area - it's popularity would be unmatched to anywhere else in the world.
Again, I'd disagree on that - Someone in the Carribean, Australia , NZ, England who follows IPL or not - It is hard to say so "nobody" would be quite a long shot. If Kohli was to play in BBL some extent of his fans would start to follow BBL , Similarly with all the international players and management who are a part of IPL - they do bring along a certain following with them.
Now regarding the expansion of the sport - It will make some expansion but don't expect it to overtake the existing sports of that country in terms of popularity. If let's say US has some 3.5 million people following Baseball , Cricket could have 150,000 followers but don't expect it to overtake baseball. Expectations have to be curtailed.

 

[Napa]

Quality of play in baseball is head and shoulder above that of cricket.

Where did that come from??? Cricket bowling (pace, seam, spin, different varieties of spin etc.) has a lot more nuance than pitching, and a cricket batsman with good technique is much more sophisticated than a baseball batter. While baseball players may be stronger at an average, a fast bowler is much more athletic than any baseball player (who tend to be muscular rather than athletic).

 

[Ph_11]

Where did that come from??? Cricket bowling (pace, seam, spin, different varieties of spin etc.) has a lot more nuance than pitching, and a cricket batsman with good technique is much more sophisticated than a baseball batter. While baseball players may be stronger at an average, a fast bowler is much more athletic than any baseball player (who tend to be muscular rather than athletic).

Obviously you are clueless. Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in any sport. Those ball players are unbelievable. They are very athletic.

 

[Napa]

If let's say US has some 3.5 million people following Baseball , Cricket could have 150,000 followers but don't expect it to overtake baseball. Expectations have to be curtailed.

Believe it or not, at one time cricket was as popular as baseball in the US. That time could return again in the distant future:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_States_cricket

 

[Ph_11]

Believe it or not, at one time cricket was as popular as baseball in the US. That time could return again in the distant future:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_States_cricket

Will never happen. You dont know of sporting culture in US.

 

[Chrish]

Only thing comparable in both sports is fielding and baseball is light years ahead of cricket in all three aspects (catching, running and throwing)