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How India have used mental disintegration techniques against England!

I wonder how much the IPL incident with Kohli's wife contributed to this but Gavaskar seems to be much more forthright in his criticism of Kohli in the recent past, and that's horrible news for Kohli.

With most other sources of criticism, the BCCI backed Kohli PR agency and legions of fanatics can drown out the criticism on the back of Kohli's brand power and other irrelevant nonsense. But Gavaskar isn't just another former cricketer - he's the greatest batsman India has ever produced and a name that is unanimously respected. Whatever Gavaskar says carries a ton of weight and the way he almost buried Kohli's batting technique in the commentary yesterday should make some heads roll. It's turning out to be Ganguly 2005 all over again, except that there isn't a Greg Chappell to bring the delusional captain back to earth.
 
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I didn't see the video but there was a buzz on social media that there was an awkward conversation between Hussain and Gavaskar when the latter was grilling Nasser for insinuating his (Gavaskar's) generation of cricketers were 'weak' in comparison to Kohli.

It's clear that Gavaskar doesn't like Kohli (&Shastri) and you can see it if one reads through the lines of his interviews in the last few weeks. Gavaskar thinks Rahane or Rohit should be the captain and Kohli has been escaping criticism that Pujara and Rahane get after every failure due to his brand. He has also said Ashwin only gets dropped because of his outspoken nature and the team management doesn't like people with strong opinions. Gavaskar may be saying these things due to his strong bias for Mumbai but he may not be entirely wrong.

He may not be entirely wrong, but I am surprised at the animosity between Shastri and Gavaskar given how the former was his protege for the majority of his international career. There was always a suspicion (perhaps unfair) during the 80s that Shastri's spot in the team was being protected by Gavaskar, and the two also seemed inseparable while working on television for two decades.

The schism between the two only seemed to appear once Shastri won in Australia in 2018/19 and proclaimed the win as the biggest in Indian history and took potshots at his own generation including Gavaskar.

Suspect the camaraderie between the two hid a lot of envy and resentment, Shastri for Gavaskar's ability and career, and Gavaskar in turn for Shastri stepping out of the comfort zone of the commentary box and proving himself as a successful coach.
 
Think India took England a bit too lightly after the second test. They might have thought they'd given them the knockout punch. But England went back, shut their mouths and played like they were molded in the Alastair Cook generation. Before that, there were guys like KP, Trott, Swann, Prior and younger Anderson and Broad who enjoyed verbal confrontations.
But under Cook, there was some change in their behavior especially after their 2015 series against NZ.

Anderson and Broad have become older now and would definitely not be getting the rushes of blood to their heads they did 10 years ago. Only Stokes is someone who likes verbal battles but he isnt in the team right now.

The best chance England have in this series is by preparing green tops.
 
He may not be entirely wrong, but I am surprised at the animosity between Shastri and Gavaskar given how the former was his protege for the majority of his international career. There was always a suspicion (perhaps unfair) during the 80s that Shastri's spot in the team was being protected by Gavaskar, and the two also seemed inseparable while working on television for two decades.

The schism between the two only seemed to appear once Shastri won in Australia in 2018/19 and proclaimed the win as the biggest in Indian history and took potshots at his own generation including Gavaskar.

Suspect the camaraderie between the two hid a lot of envy and resentment, Shastri for Gavaskar's ability and career, and Gavaskar in turn for Shastri stepping out of the comfort zone of the commentary box and proving himself as a successful coach.

It seems like a culmination of a lot of events. Certainly Shastri pumping his own tyres by pointing out the win in 2018/19 as the biggest win in Indian history riled up a lot of past Indian cricketers and rightly so. I do think the win in 2020/21 was our best ever test series victory and up there with the drawn series against the peak Saffer side in 2010, but there was no need to rub it in. The current generation is a culmination of the efforts of the past cricketers and it's arguable that the past Indian teams didn't have the luxury of a good fast bowling attack that this team has, and that has been the result of BCCI's investment in domestic cricket due to it's increasing stature in world cricket, which was not the case a few decades ago.

Besides, I had totally forgotten the Anushka-Gavaskar fiasco that had happened an year or so back which [MENTION=145164]Proactive_[/MENTION] rightly points out. Gavaskar, like Bedi is a very proud and opinionated man, and has a huge stature in Indian cricket. Unlike Kapil who doesn't get into the limelight often, Gavaskar due to the nature of his work in the media, is often in the limelight for his strong opinions and Anushka doing a public takedown of Gavaskar on social media must have irked him to no end. He also has a natural bias for Mumbai cricketers - in Gavaskar and Sachin, the best Indian batsman in two generations was a Mumbai cricketer and with Kohli becoming the best batsman in India, Mumbai didn't have the same recognition as it had in the past. It is arguable that Gavaskar is right in saying that Rohit should be the Indian captain, particularly in LOIs, but Kohli has carefully sculpted a brand for himself over the years and recruited all his yes men to the team management, so no one really had the guts to criticise brand Kohli. Kumble was promptly jettisoned and Shastri got recruited for the same reason. So only someone of the stature of Gavaskar could do it and even Gavaskar has been doing it in a veiled manner rather than an outright attack.
 
I wonder how much the IPL incident with Kohli's wife contributed to this but Gavaskar seems to be much more forthright in his criticism of Kohli in the recent past, and that's horrible news for Kohli.

With most other sources of criticism, the BCCI backed Kohli PR agency and legions of fanatics can drown out the criticism on the back of Kohli's brand power and other irrelevant nonsense. But Gavaskar isn't just another former cricketer - he's the greatest batsman India has ever produced and a name that is unanimously respected. Whatever Gavaskar says carries a ton of weight and the way he almost buried Kohli's batting technique in the commentary yesterday should make some heads roll. It's turning out to be Ganguly 2005 all over again, except that there isn't a Greg Chappell to bring the delusional captain back to earth.

Ooh..I was watching Sky feed. What did Gavaskar say about Kohli's technique? That must have been spicy:yk
 
Ooh..I was watching Sky feed. What did Gavaskar say about Kohli's technique? That must have been spicy:yk

It was mostly technical stuff about Kohli's feet not moving as they should and the glaring gap between bat and pad but he sounded condescending to me on how Kohli seems to be making the same mistake again and again. He ended the segment advising Kohli to call Tendulkar for help (by basically gulping his pride to do so).

Not to mention his veiled attack on Kohli on the pre show regarding aggression when he was taking Hussain to task regarding his article.
 
People love a good story but the bottom-line is that India is a much better side than England even in these English conditions.

Other than Root and Anderson, no England player gets into the Indian XI.

India would have been 2-0 up here if it wasn’t for rain in the first Test, and if they bring their A game in the remaining Tests, they can take this series 4-0.

People love a good story don’t they?
 
Think India took England a bit too lightly after the second test. They might have thought they'd given them the knockout punch. But England went back, shut their mouths and played like they were molded in the Alastair Cook generation. Before that, there were guys like KP, Trott, Swann, Prior and younger Anderson and Broad who enjoyed verbal confrontations.
But under Cook, there was some change in their behavior especially after their 2015 series against NZ.

Anderson and Broad have become older now and would definitely not be getting the rushes of blood to their heads they did 10 years ago. Only Stokes is someone who likes verbal battles but he isnt in the team right now.

The best chance England have in this series is by preparing green tops.

I don’t think there will be greentops at the Oval and OT in September. Maybe some autumn dew early and late in the day will help swing it.

I would expect harder and spin-friendly decks. Not raging Bunsens, but with some grip later in the matches. Ashwin will profit. If England go level in Leeds, I would expect 1-3 India overall.
 
Welcoming back Nasser Hussain in the commentary panel ahead of the 3rd Test between Joe Root's men and Virat Kohli-led Team India on Wednesday, legendary cricketer Sunil Gavaskar engaged in a heated debate with the former England skipper and full-time cricket pundit. One of the most celebrated voices in the gentlemen's game, former England skipper Hussain had opined that the current Team India side led by talisman Kohli will not be bullied like the previous generations of the Asian giants.

Recalling Hussain's recent remarks about the Indian cricket team, Gavaskar slammed the former England cricketer and said that he would be "very upset" if his generation of players were labelled as the ones who were "bullied" by the opposition. Kickstarting the on-air debate ahead of the 3rd Test match at Headingley, Gavasakar rebuked Hussain over a column that the Englishman penned for a British newspaper.

Gavaskar highlighted India's remarkable performances on English soil before the emergence of Kohli. One of the famous faces of the game, Gavaskar mentioned that India outclassed England 1-0 in the 1971 tour of the European nation. In his defense, Hussain opined that he likes the captaincy style of the Indian skipper and that's exactly what he mentioned in his column.

Gavaskar: You said this India will not be bullied as perhaps the previous generations would be. (Me) Belonging to previous generation, could you perhaps enlighten which generation? And what is the exact meaning of bully?”

Hussain: I just think, the Indian side under the aggression of the past, would have said ‘no no no’. But what Kohli has done is to make them go doubly hard. I saw a little bit of that in Sourav Ganguly’s side and he started that, Virat is continuing with it. Even when Virat was not there, Ajinkya really went hard at the Australians. I just don’t think you want to wake this Indian side up.

Gavaskar: But when you say previous generations were bullied, I don’t think so. I’d be very upset if my generation was being talked about as being bullied. If you have a look at the record, in 1971 we won, that was my first tour in England. 1974, we had internal problems so we lost 3-0. 1979, we lost 1-0, it could have been 1-1 if we chased down 438 at the Oval. 1982 we again lost 1-0. In 1986 we won 2-0, we could have won it 3-0. So, I don’t think my generation we were bullied. I don’t think aggression means you have always got to be at the face of the opposition. You can show passion, you can show your commitment towards your team without yelling after each fall of wicket.

Hussain: I for one, quite like the way Kohli leads this side. That’s what I wanted to say. That team talk in which he said ‘let’s unleash fire on this English side’ and you could see the fire that they unleashed.

Gavaskar: There is no argument in that. The question is saying that the previous generations were bullied. I don’t think this is right.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-indian-generations-got-bullied-remark/803770

This is the Nasser/Sunny conversation
 
What happened to all the loud mouth "aggression yaar"

As I said, this thread may come back to bite you.

What wins matches is skill and tactics. India had both in the second test. Currently they have little batting skill against the seaming/swinging ball and Kohli has drawn a blank on what to do here. You know what could have provided another option? A full time spinner....but aggression yaar!
 
This is the Nasser/Sunny conversation

Sunny offended about the bullying remark...he's being a bit of a snowflake here. Older Indian sides were indeed bullied, that's not to say this current side hasn't been bullied either. We succumbed easily in SA, succumbed in England this entire decade and succumbed meekly twice against NZ in ICC tournament semi-finals while we're a team with a 100x their population size and finances.

Winning one test where Kohli's "aggression yaar" won is not indicative of the whole but then again Nasser is a Kohli lacky.
 
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People love a good story but the bottom-line is that India is a much better side than England even in these English conditions.

Other than Root and Anderson, no England player gets into the Indian XI.

India would have been 2-0 up here if it wasn’t for rain in the first Test, and if they bring their A game in the remaining Tests, they can take this series 4-0.

Really? Broady is still the second best seam/swing bowler on the planet, Stokes is the best all format all rounder on the planet, Buttler is the best hitter around and a very reliable keeper/bat in tests. They'd al get in to an world XI, not just India.
 
Really? Broady is still the second best seam/swing bowler on the planet, Stokes is the best all format all rounder on the planet, Buttler is the best hitter around and a very reliable keeper/bat in tests. They'd al get in to an world XI, not just India.

As stated above, I am talking about the players playing for England in this series. Obviously, Stokes walks into any team in the world and so does a fit Archer. However, I am not convinced that Broad would improve this Indian attack.
 
Robinson and Hameed would get in too. Plus Stokes, were he available.

Rohit and Rahul are much better than Hameed. Not sure Robinson would improve Indian bowling.

Stokes certainly, but I was talking about the players playing for England in this series.
 
I didn't see the video but there was a buzz on social media that there was an awkward conversation between Hussain and Gavaskar when the latter was grilling Nasser for insinuating his (Gavaskar's) generation of cricketers were 'weak' in comparison to Kohli.

It's clear that Gavaskar doesn't like Kohli (&Shastri) and you can see it if one reads through the lines of his interviews in the last few weeks. Gavaskar thinks Rahane or Rohit should be the captain and Kohli has been escaping criticism that Pujara and Rahane get after every failure due to his brand. He has also said Ashwin only gets dropped because of his outspoken nature and the team management doesn't like people with strong opinions. Gavaskar may be saying these things due to his strong bias for Mumbai but he may not be entirely wrong.

I don't know about bias because Gavaskar has always come across as a sound bloke to be honest, he is one of the toughest Indian cricketers in history so am not surprised by his opinions and disagreement with Hussain. Having said, he is probably telling the truth here and it comes down to Kohli's stature and influence, but I think India are in a good position because while each captain has their own style and strengths / weaknesses; India have options which is always a positive, if Kohli can't lead then you have a ready made replacement and bench which is incredibly strong, Ashwin is out of the side for various reasons but it's not that big a deal when you have Jadeja there, either could technically play and on wickets in England they may just prefer the superior Batting of Jadeja
 
This is the Nasser/Sunny conversation

'I'm offering peace on Hussain's behalf': Atherton tells Gavaskar. India legend replies


Former England captain Mike Atherton, who is one of Hussain’s very good friends, came on the pre-match show on Sony Sports Network on Thursday and offered ‘peace on Hussain’s behalf' to Gavaskar.

The Sunil Gavaskar and Nasser Hussain banter saw a new chapter before the start of play on Day 2 in the third India-England third Test at Headingley in Leeds without the latter even being present. Former England captain Mike Atherton, who is one of Hussain’s very good friends, came on the pre-match show on Sony Sports Network on Thursday and offered ‘peace on Hussain’s behalf' to Gavaskar.

“I have come to offer peace from Nasser Hussain's behalf after what happened yesterday,” Atherton said towards the end of his discussion with a smile.

Gavaskar, who was present along with Ajit Agarkar and presenter Harsha Bhogle, laughed and then went on to add that he still stands by what he had said to Hussain hours before this Test began.

“I never took a backward step so I’m not gonna do that even now. This should be pretty much known to those who know me by now,” Gavaskar said.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/im-offering-peace-on-hussain-s-behalf-atherton-tells-gavaskar-on-bullied-debate-india-legend-replies-101629975457119.html
 
As stated above, I am talking about the players playing for England in this series. Obviously, Stokes walks into any team in the world and so does a fit Archer. However, I am not convinced that Broad would improve this Indian attack.

So I guess Buttler is not good enough, nor is Bairstow :facepalm
 
So I guess Buttler is not good enough, nor is Bairstow :facepalm

Bairstow is not a better Test batsman than Pujara and Rahane.

Buttler could have scored 10k runs, but it is too late for that. In his current shape and form, he is not a better WK batsman than Pant, who is the most talented WK batsman since Gilchrist.
 
Pant is an ATG already didn’t you get the memo. And India’s middle order is water tight , they don’t need a fighter like bairstow:))

Even English fans don't rate Bairstow in Test cricket.

Sometimes I wonder if people even watch test cricket.
 
im watching this series and i can assure you i would rather have bairstow then any of indias middle order based on current form.

All these 3 even in their terrible form would probably score some soft runs at home. Bairstow wouldn't make a run away from his home in tough conditions. In fact he couldn't score runs even in his home which is why he was dropped from the team in the first place. Pujara seems like a finished cricketer, but Bairstow is a flawed cricketer. Having Bairstow instead of Pujara or Rahane isn't really an upgrade.
 
Bairstow is not a better Test batsman than Pujara and Rahane.

Buttler could have scored 10k runs, but it is too late for that. In his current shape and form, he is not a better WK batsman than Pant, who is the most talented WK batsman since Gilchrist.

" Pant, who is the most talented WK batsman since Gilchrist."

:tahir2:wy:maqsood:qdkcheeky
 
All these 3 even in their terrible form would probably score some soft runs at home. Bairstow wouldn't make a run away from his home in tough conditions. In fact he couldn't score runs even in his home which is why he was dropped from the team in the first place. Pujara seems like a finished cricketer, but Bairstow is a flawed cricketer. Having Bairstow instead of Pujara or Rahane isn't really an upgrade.

In a hypothetical situation here and now, which was the question, i would chose Bairstow over Pujara and Rahane they are walking wickets. home and away and details as such you can argue till the cows come home, thats a conversation for another day.
 
Seems like Root using mental disintergration techniques against Indias bowlers now, treating the short balls with the respect they deserve
 
Siraj? I always took him as a bowler who will shine once in a while but won't trust him though.

He was a star in the making even before making a debut.

He was doing great in A tours in Eng in 2018 itself.

Its just that our management has been garbage in planning so players like him are not known.

He made his debut atleast 2 years late.
 
In a hypothetical situation here and now, which was the question, i would chose Bairstow over Pujara and Rahane they are walking wickets. home and away and details as such you can argue till the cows come home, thats a conversation for another day.

Agreed.

Those 2 are done.
 
“ only Root and Anderson can get into this Indian side”

Yeah I guess Broad isn’t better than Siraj and Ishant

In England, Broad is obviously better. Outside England, I would take both Ishant and Siraj anyday over Broad.
 
“ only Root and Anderson can get into this Indian side”

Yeah I guess Broad isn’t better than Siraj and Ishant

Oh you didn't see? Mamoon sir back tracked and said it was only "those who played in this test".

But Mamoon sahib also believes Pant is one of the all time greats.
 
I don’t think there will be greentops at the Oval and OT in September. Maybe some autumn dew early and late in the day will help swing it.

I would expect harder and spin-friendly decks. Not raging Bunsens, but with some grip later in the matches. Ashwin will profit. If England go level in Leeds, I would expect 1-3 India overall.

I think England will turn around the corner now. 2-2 looks quite probable now. Or 3-1 to England.
Indian management make leftfield selections regularly, so expecting Ashwin to not feature in the next 2 tests is quite possible.
 
Oh you didn't see? Mamoon sir back tracked and said it was only "those who played in this test".

But Mamoon sahib also believes Pant is one of the all time greats.

Backtracking? Please go to the first page and read post number 27 from August 18.

It always helps to look around and read other posts before passing comments.

And yes, Pant is an ATG in the making and the heir to Gilchrist. What he did in Australia earlier this year was not the work of an ordinary player.

He is already one of the most feared cricketers in the world and his presence has a psychological impact on the opposition.

He is already a very prized wicket and the Australians were scared of him even though they were playing at home with their full-strength bowling attack.
 
Rohit and Rahul are much better than Hameed. Not sure Robinson would improve Indian bowling.

Stokes certainly, but I was talking about the players playing for England in this series.

Robinson is better than Ishant in England this year.

Here’s my combination team for the series so far:

Rahul
Sharma
Hameed
Root (c)
Malan
Pant (W)
Jadeja
Robinson
Anderson
Bumrah
Siraj

Rough on Shami but Anderson is the best bowler of the series. Everyone else is doing a marginal job. Pant and Jadeja are not certain selections over Butler and Moeen. Jadeja gets in for his fielding.
 
I think England will turn around the corner now. 2-2 looks quite probable now. Or 3-1 to England.
Indian management make leftfield selections regularly, so expecting Ashwin to not feature in the next 2 tests is quite possible.

England batting is improving while India batting is not. But I back Kohli to get a century late in the series and maybe Pant too. I think the fourth and fifth test tracks will be more hospitable for India.
 
Robinson is better than Ishant in England this year.

Here’s my combination team for the series so far:

Rahul
Sharma
Hameed
Root (c)
Malan
Pant (W)
Jadeja
Robinson
Anderson
Bumrah
Siraj

Rough on Shami but Anderson is the best bowler of the series. Everyone else is doing a marginal job. Pant and Jadeja are not certain selections over Butler and Moeen. Jadeja gets in for his fielding.

India- England combined XI when everyone is available:-

Rohit
Rahul
Root
Kohli
Stokes
Pant(wkt)
Jadeja
Woakes
Ashwin
Anderson
Bumrah

This is for all conditions. Batting till 9 and in bowling, you have four seamers and two spinners available.
 
England batting is improving while India batting is not. But I back Kohli to get a century late in the series and maybe Pant too. I think the fourth and fifth test tracks will be more hospitable for India.

They might well be. I feel like it's the best time for England to stamp their authority.
 
For so long has Virat Kohli been the man who could do no wrong that when things wobble for India there seems to be a cosmic disturbance, a rearrangement of the order of things.

He last made a Test century in November 2019. He has not scored a hundred for India in any format for 51 innings.

After a remarkable win over England at Lord's, India were thumped by an innings inside four days at Emerald Headingley.

A thrilling series - poised at 1-1 with two Tests to play - resumes at the Kia Oval on Thursday and Kohli holds the key to whether India can bounce back.

What has gone wrong with Kohli's batting?

Against swing bowlers, he seems to be suffering from 'off-stumpitis' - uncertainty where his off stump is.

He is playing at deliveries he should leave alone. Bowlers have played on his ego, challenging him to play the ball - and Kohli has obliged, prodding hesitantly to edge behind.

Batsmen on either side of him in the order, Cheteshwar Pujara and Ajinkya Rahane - both with greater patience and no great urgency to establish who is boss - have got out in similar fashion in England, causing a middle-order crisis.

Since the 2018 tour of England when he did not get out to James Anderson once while making two centuries and a 97, Kohli has been conscious of playing close to his body and meeting the ball under his eye.

On this tour he has been leaving the outswingers well but has got himself into a tangle over the ball that threatens to leave him but holds it line.

Kohli has the equipment - mental and physical - to sort it out. But with back-to-back Tests to come, the pressure is on to get his batting right, his team selection right and his tactics right.

Certain captains, such as England's Mike Brearley and India's Tiger Pataudi (late in his career), rose above personal batting failures to lead their sides to victories.

For Kohli to be spoken of in the same breath - India are chasing a first series win in England since 2007 - he must show himself to be as inspirational in defeat as in victory; when things are going wrong as well as when his team are on top.

Kohli enjoys captaincy. He enjoys stamping his personality on the team. He enjoys setting challenges as much for his team-mates as his opponents.

His record as a leader is impressive. His batting average as captain is comfortably higher than before he took the job, and he is India's most successful Test skipper with 37 wins.

Kohli and his team's celebrations - full-throated, full-blooded and unabashedly self-congratulatory, with the occasional verbal swipe at the opposition - have sometimes distracted from the performance.

What Kohli lacks in tactical nous, he makes up for by ensuring his team are aligned to the same vision, and play with aggression and enormous self-belief.

That cliche 'team spirit' has been more palpable under Kohli than most India captains. He has infused the team with his own mantra: exceptional fitness, high fielding standards and the importance of Test cricket.

I remember a meal with Kohli at a team hotel where other players would walk past our table, glance at what he was eating and then order the same dish themselves. Like good leaders, Kohli inspires his men beyond their profession.

If the halo over Kohli's head has slipped just a little, it is as much because of his poor form as his over-the-top leadership in England.

It is a style which appears justified when it works, but looks silly and childish when it doesn't.

Does India's aggression cross the line?
Kohli at 32 suddenly finds himself having to answer questions about both his batting and his captaincy. He got the second aspect right at Lord's, leaving England 60 overs to save the Test, a task beyond their capabilities.

But at Headingley he might have been fooled by the brownish look of the wicket, choosing to bat first and having the double ignominy of being bowled out for 78 and watching England pile on more than five times that total.

In a break during the game, television in India showed the 2002 Test at Headingley when India captain Sourav Ganguly won the toss and chose to bat on seamer-friendly track. But he had Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid in his team. All three made centuries and India won by an innings.

When Jasprit Bumrah, the mildest of fast bowlers, was asked to target number 11 Anderson with a series of bouncers, the Kohli philosophy became clear. Hostility and retaliating before being provoked is key. Confrontations are encouraged, in the belief it pumps up bowlers.

There is, too, the notion sometimes that victory is not enough; it has to be accompanied by humiliation, a word that has no place in sport. At Lord's, stump mics picked up much derisive laughter as the England wickets fell or batsmen struggled.

I wrote in my newspaper column at the time: 'Do we want our cricket team to be seen as aggressive bullies who act as if the 22 yards and everything else belongs to them, or is there another way of winning that does not reach down into the lesser devils (as opposed to the better angels) of our nature?'

The reaction was immediate. A huge number of fans thought I was wrong to berate Kohli, but there were a significant number who believed Kohli had crossed a line.

Do you want a soft Kohli who loses Tests or an aggressive one who wins? That was the gist of the responses, minus the obscenities. Triumphalism brooks no criticism.

Yet captaincy cannot be about attacking all the time. Kohli has shown his team cannot be messed with. Playing well is the best revenge.

In sport, victory is the ultimate justification and, if India win the series, the frustrations will be forgotten. If Kohli's batting plays a role, then he would have personally pushed the halo back.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/58392309
 
Need a bit of the tough stuff if India are to harbour any thoughts of winning this match and the series.
 
Indian pacer Jasprit Bumrah recently opened up on his intense duel with James Anderson during the second Test between India and England at the Lord's Cricket Ground. Bumrah had targeted Anderson with a barrage of bouncers and short balls after he came out to bat during England's second innings in the Test match.

Bumrah shared his side of the story during an interview with Dinesh Karthik for Sky Sports and said the plan to bowl bouncers and short balls at Anderson was not to hurt him but to get him out quickly by unsettling him. However, the Indian pacer revealed the words said by Anderson post the duel was what 'riled him up'. Bumrah said the words exchanged by Anderson were not really pleasant and the team was not happy about it.

"I don't want to go into the details. But when we play the sport, it's never our intention to really hurt the batsman or try to aim to hit the batsman. It was a tactic to get the lower order out because when we go to Australia or South Africa, this is what happens. That's what was to it," Bumrah told Karthik during his interview on Sky Sports.

"But as soon as the day got over, some words were exchanged which were not really pleasant so we were not happy about it. I did not hear at that time because I was really tired (chuckles) but all my teammates heard and usually I am a person who doesn't go looking for a fight or get riled up when needled. But when I heard what was said, I got really riled up," he added.

Bumrah said he was ready to give it back to England and not back down no matter what came up later in the Test match. Bumrah did perform exceptionally well with the bat and went on to score an unbeaten 34. He combined with Mohammed Shami to post an unbeaten stand of 89 runs for the ninth wicket and guide India to a match-winning total of 298 runs.

In reply, England were bundled out for 120 runs in their second innings and lost the Test match by a huge margin of 151 runs.

"Then it was like, if something comes up [ahead in the game] I won't really back down and give it back ten times. Everyone was really charged up and ready for a fight, to go really hard but [also keeping in mind] to not lose shape and remember that we are here to do a job, not just talk and make an impact. We wanted to use the fire to our advantage and make a result out of it that eventually happened," said Bumrah.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-up-on-fierce-duel-with-james-anderson/807773
 
Kohli will do his utmost to channel the same aggression they showed at Lord's into the fourth innings here.

His batsmen still need to deliver a competitive lead.
 
Jasprit Bumrah, one of the chief architects of India’s comprehensive win in the fourth Test, on Monday said his team’s success lies in the fact that it is a “happy bunch" that lives in ‘present’ and doesn’t focus on negatives.

Bumrah’s response came when he was asked if the news of head coach Ravi Shastri and other support staff members testing positive in the middle of the Test match affected them in any way.

“We focus on the good things. We want to focus on controllable things and we as a team are bunch of individuals who are very happy and fun-loving people, not always trying to find needles in all the things," Bumrah said during the virtual press conference.

It was Bumrah, who tilted the match in India’s favour in the post-lunch session on the final day of the fourth Test, with his two-wicket burst.

Bumrah said the team completely shut the outside noise and was not overtly worried when they were down at 127 for 7 in the first innings.

“Yes, the wicket was fresh and we didn’t score much in the first innings. But we didn’t lose shape as a team and didn’t think about lot of things that are said and lot of things that are written.

“We wanted to fight till the end and that’s the character we wanted to show and things that are going outside is something that we wanted to address later."

His final figures were 2/27 in 22 overs on a flat deck and the key was building the pressure, said the senior speedster.

“In Test cricket, nothing is easy. Even though it was a very good wicket, you have to bowl in right areas and that’s the message you want to communicate. We had decided, even if wicket is on flatter side, we have to create pressure for the longest time.

“We created a lot of pressure in the first hour and we realised that it was a flat wicket and but our job was to not let the game slip away and we are happy to do that."

The IPL and the World T20 are also approaching but Bumrah doesn’t want to lose focus on immediate goals.

“When you play a Test match, you don’t realise what has been done before or how many overs you have been able to bowl because right now the focus was on doing the job for the team," Bumrah, who has taken 18 wickets in 151 overs so far in this series, said.

“I want to play longest time for my country so I work hard on gym, on my diet and everything I try to control. I train really well and I have got ammunition inside me and when I want to push, I can push hard.

“I am not thinking too far ahead about the IPL or World Cup because then mentally you can be tired. My focus is on the present, concentrating ball by ball and get results in our favour," he said

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...how-india-shut-the-outside-noise-4173293.html
 
The England vs India Test series saw a premature end, with the 5th Test cancelled, but the first four matches between the two teams produced a great spectacle. However, there were a few tense moments between the two teams too, especially in the Lord's Test between Jasprit Bumrah and James Anderson.

India went on to win the Lord's Test to go 1-0 up in the series but not before a drama-filled incident between Bumrah and Anderson. While the details of the exact conversation between the two marquee players isn't known, Shardul Thakur has shed some light on the depth of the incident.

"We were trying to attack Anderson. Something had happened during the Lord’s Test and it was carried to The Oval. I was later told that Anderson said something to Bumrah which he shouldn’t have, I was told they (England team) abused Bumrah. Those words cannot be said in public, so everyone got charged up after this," Shardul said in a conversation with Indian Express.

Anderson was specifically upset with the barrage of bouncers that Bumrah bowled at him in the Lord's Test. When it was Bumrah's turn to bat, England pacers targeted with him short-pitched deliveries too but the Indian handled the situation well alongside Mohammed Shami.

Shardul argued that Indian tailenders are often targeted with such deliveries and hence, it's fair for them to target the opponent teams' lower-order batters with the same tactic too.

"When we go overseas, our tailenders also face bouncers. In Australia, Natrajan was bowled bouncers by Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins despite them knowing that this guy hasn’t batted much even in First Class cricket. So now when our opponents’ tailender come to bat then why can’t we bowl bouncers at him? Why shouldn’t we bowl bodyline? We are not playing to please anyone. We are playing there to win," said the seamer.

After the Lord's Test, India suffered a defeat at Headingley before making a comeback at the Oval to take a 2-1 lead in the 5-match series. With the 5th Test of the assignment cancelled, it is unclear as to what the final result of the bilateral series will be.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ardul-thakur-on-james-anderson-episode/812703
 
Well seems that this time around - these techniques did not work

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Jimmy Anderson speaking in a podcast:

"Jonny was about 80 not out at the break in the first innings and Virat had been going at him and sledging him a lot. This was early in his innings as well I don't know if you saw the strike-rate difference? His strike-rate was about 20 before Virat started sledging him and about 150 after he sledged him"

"His first words back in the dressing room at lunch were: 'When will they learn to shut it?' As Jimmy Neesham put it in his tweet, if there's somebody you don't want to rub up the wrong way and get them proper in the zone, into the game mode, it is Jonny Bairstow,"

https://sports.ndtv.com/england-vs-...feisty-exchange-during-edgbaston-test-3142083
 
You need to pick and choose the players you target.

Target the wrong player and it will backfire, as we saw with Jonny Bairstow.
 
Well seems that this time around - these techniques did not work

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Jimmy Anderson speaking in a podcast:

"Jonny was about 80 not out at the break in the first innings and Virat had been going at him and sledging him a lot. This was early in his innings as well I don't know if you saw the strike-rate difference? His strike-rate was about 20 before Virat started sledging him and about 150 after he sledged him"

"His first words back in the dressing room at lunch were: 'When will they learn to shut it?' As Jimmy Neesham put it in his tweet, if there's somebody you don't want to rub up the wrong way and get them proper in the zone, into the game mode, it is Jonny Bairstow,"

https://sports.ndtv.com/england-vs-...feisty-exchange-during-edgbaston-test-3142083

Not the man to sledge, clearly. He just gets The Johnny Eyes and goes deep in The Zone.
 
Well if you only sledge when you are on top or against weak players - where is the fun in that ? That is just being a bully.

Kohli likes to have a word or two and it is not new. It's how he's been since his debut. Sometimes its bound to look stupid with opponent getting the better off you.

Last year this same intensity is what got us dismissing England inside 60 overs to win a test at Lord's, so for the opportunistic bumpers, have your day in sun. Because next time it works, it will be time to go back in the hiding.
 
Well if you only sledge when you are on top or against weak players - where is the fun in that ? That is just being a bully.

Kohli likes to have a word or two and it is not new. It's how he's been since his debut. Sometimes its bound to look stupid with opponent getting the better off you.

Last year this same intensity is what got us dismissing England inside 60 overs to win a test at Lord's, so for the opportunistic bumpers, have your day in sun. Because next time it works, it will be time to go back in the hiding.

Yeah. Kohli in his pomp, think it was during the tour of Aus when he'd smashed Johnson in a test was asked about this. He said something similar - you can't be having words only if you feel you'll win that battle. Also said, can't be worried about failing after sledging.

In that regard, he has been consistent. As you mentioned, we only came back into the test series mostly due to his madness during the Lord's test.
 
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