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How many of you miss Bob Woolmer? This tour of England had me thinking about him lately

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With the test at the Oval coming up and what went down in the past and how Bob defended the team had me reminiscing his run as Coach for our team. Bob was arguably the most knowledgeable coach in history and this is also vindicated by the cricketing bible "Art and Science of Cricket". Pakistan enjoyed a decent run under Woolmer and he always will have a special relationship with the team and fans.


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Bob Woolmer also coached my team the Birmingham Bears (Warwickshire County Cricket Club) and in 1994 achieved the unprecedented feat of winning three trophies in an English domestic season. The treble included titles in the County Championship, Sunday League and Benson/Hedges Cup while the grand slam was narrowly missed as they lost to Worcestershire in the final of the Natwest Trophy. It was the most remarkable season by any side in the history of county cricket [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] who may disagree being a deluded Lancashire fan.
 
I hope Bob Woolmer gets inducted into the Hall of Fame for his services to cricket [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION]
 
Under Bob Woolmer the Birmingham Bears won the County Championship by 42 points from second placed Leicestershire, the largest winning margin since 1979. During the 17 match season the Birmingham Bears won eleven and lost just once, with the remainder draws. In one-day competitions they won 21 of their 26 matches.

The signing of Brian Lara as overseas player played a key role in the success, arriving days after the record Test knock of 375 he began the season with six centuries in seven innings which culminated against Durham County Cricket Club when he scored a first-class record 501 not out. He finished the season with nine centuries and a total of 2,066 runs at an average of 89.82, topping both run scoring and average lists for the season.
 
When Bob Woolmer was appointed coach by Pakistan we were ranked 6th in Test cricket but he lifted that to no.3 in a short space of time we saw a big improvement, am not 100% but we may have been ranked no.2 for a short while to under him? however jumping 3 positions was a big acheivement
 
For me Woolmer is the greatest Cricket coach of all time.

He was the one behind the most stable middle order for Pakistan (Inzy, Yousuf, and Younis), made useful all-rounders from bits and pieces cricketers (Akmal, Malik, and Afridi) and brought back Asif.
 
For me Woolmer is the greatest Cricket coach of all time.

He was the one behind the most stable middle order for Pakistan (Inzy, Yousuf, and Younis), made useful all-rounders from bits and pieces cricketers (Akmal, Malik, and Afridi) and brought back Asif.

Woolmer is the GOAT coach - If you can curb Pakistani Drama Queens and make them perform on field then probably you're one of the greatest man managers out there !!
 
Bob Woolmer also coached my team the Birmingham Bears (Warwickshire County Cricket Club) and in 1994 achieved the unprecedented feat of winning three trophies in an English domestic season. The treble included titles in the County Championship, Sunday League and Benson/Hedges Cup while the grand slam was narrowly missed as they lost to Worcestershire in the final of the Natwest Trophy. It was the most remarkable season by any side in the history of county cricket [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] who may disagree being a deluded Lancashire fan.

As I recall, the Bears won all four in 1994 and three out of four in 1995.
 
Woolmer was one of the best if not the best coach ever to grace the game. Gary Kristen and Woolmer are two i rate as the best.
 
Yeah rare good coach who can be good at every level of the game.

But sorry to say, he wouldn't have made us win because our "unpredictable" Pakistani genes kicked in at Edgbaston when we lost with a lead of 103, nothing can stop that :afridi
 
Great thread, Shazzy.

Woolmmer was a class act. Every time I see his pics I get goosebumps.

Brilliant coach. May his soul RIP.
 
As I recall, the Bears won all four in 1994 and three out of four in 1995.

We failed to win the OD Natwest Trophy in 94 Robert, more known as the friends provident trophy today. Narrowly missed out on the grand slam :( And in 95 we won 2 out of 4, missed out on the Benson/Hedges Cup and the Sunday League (CB40).
 
Woolmer told a story about batting with Colin Cowdrey for Kent, against Garry Sobers, who was bowling his left-arm swingers.

Woolmer was barely hanging on in a strokeless state as the great Bajan beat him again and again on both sides of the bat. Cowdrey said - see if you can get one run this over. Just nudge a single somewhere. Woolmer managed it. Next over Cowdrey said - this time, try to nudge a single to off. Again Woolmer managed it. Slowly the mental shackles came off and Woolmer was able to tick over alongside his illustrious partner, who was scoring freely.

Much later, Woolmer realised that Cowdrey had given him a lesson on how to play a very dangerous swing bowler. Woolmer never forgot the lesson.
 
Thanks for everything Bob. Genuinely could not believe the news when I heard he died. Was a good coach and bonded well with the player.
 
Greatest Pakistani coach and possibly the greatest coach ever.

Woolmer had a relationship with the players and fans that no other coach would probably have. He understood the psyche of Pakistan cricket better than most people, and he shaped it beautifully.

2004-2006 was a very good period for Pakistan cricket with some memorable performances. It is a shame that it had to end on such a terrible note.

Woolmer may have spent 3 years only, but he is a Pakistan cricket legend.

I really do miss his white laptop.
 
I can't forget how shocked and depressed I was that day. WC exit after losing to freaking Ireland and then Woolmer's demise.

Felt like life really had no purpose.
 
With the test at the Oval coming up and what went down in the past and how Bob defended the team had me reminiscing his run as Coach for our team. Bob was arguably the most knowledgeable coach in history and this is also vindicated by the cricketing bible "Art and Science of Cricket". Pakistan enjoyed a decent run under Woolmer and he always will have a special relationship with the team and fans.


Woolmer_laptop_shoaib.jpg


1422800311539

We were pretty crap in that series.. No disrespect to the Great man. May he rest in peace
 
I can't forget how shocked and depressed I was that day. WC exit after losing to freaking Ireland and then Woolmer's demise.

Felt like life really had no purpose.

Same here, have a tear in my eye just thinking about it and reading all these posts just goes to show what Bob meant to everyone. On that day I was in the park playing cricket in the best form of my life as a batsman, smashing the local villagers all over the park with my drives despite coming in late down the order as the guys older then me would be quick to say they want their batting to come before everyone elses :hafeez but they'd be quick to take the walk to the bench of shame, then I'd battle it out after the collapse and end my innings unbeaten on 23* but with no one to hang around with me :misbah

The opposing team were also one player short and we had assigned a very talented fast bowler called Mo to get us some food for the interval period and also find a player for the opposing team, Mo was quiet lazy he didn't really make much of an effort to find someone but while he was at Hajees Kebab House Papa Jabar had just finished his shift and Mo asked him would you be interested in having a bat today? he said sure why not! Mo would bring 2 bags of Southern Fried Chicken and Chips but he'd also bring news of Pakistan's pathetic Batting Collapse "The score is 66-5 lads" we were surprised but also very hungry so just casually ate and wrestled each other before the 2nd innings resumed. Papa Jabar would come in at no.5 and smash the bear for 18 runs of his over enroute to helping his team win the game that day and I returned home to find that Pakistan had lost the game.

It wasn't until the evening that I had quiet a few family members come to my house and bring news that Bob Woolmer was no more, cried for a few hours and didn't go to sleep. Then I was so angry I promised myself that I'd never watch or play cricket again, but few years later I was in the library and came across a book "art and science of cricket" it was by Bob Woolmer, I picked it up and was in there hours reading it and admiring how passionate and knowledgeable Bob Woolmer was and I also ripped out the entire chapter on spin bowling and put in my pants before escaping the Library as if I had a $1 million dollars hidden in my chadeez:))) which btw helped me get selected in the first XI of a club which played in the prestigious Birmingham Premier League.

It's so sad, what I hate more then anything is when good people suffer.

As Lil Wayne once said and I also find myself asking the same question:

" And I'm grindin' until I'm tired
And you ain't grindin' until you tired
So I'm grinding with my eyes wide
Looking to find,
A way through the day
The life of the night
Dear lord you've take so many of my people
I'm just wondering why you haven't taken my life
Like what the hell am I doing right? "

RIP Bob Woolmer, we will always cherish you.
 
We were pretty crap in that series.. No disrespect to the Great man. May he rest in peace

The OP makes no mention of how Pakistan did in that Test Series, it is a tribute to Bob Woolmer
 
Same here, have a tear in my eye just thinking about it and reading all these posts just goes to show what Bob meant to everyone. On that day I was in the park playing cricket in the best form of my life as a batsman, smashing the local villagers all over the park with my drives despite coming in late down the order as the guys older then me would be quick to say they want their batting to come before everyone elses :hafeez but they'd be quick to take the walk to the bench of shame, then I'd battle it out after the collapse and end my innings unbeaten on 23* but with no one to hang around with me :misbah

The opposing team were also one player short and we had assigned a very talented fast bowler called Mo to get us some food for the interval period and also find a player for the opposing team, Mo was quiet lazy he didn't really make much of an effort to find someone but while he was at Hajees Kebab House Papa Jabar had just finished his shift and Mo asked him would you be interested in having a bat today? he said sure why not! Mo would bring 2 bags of Southern Fried Chicken and Chips but he'd also bring news of Pakistan's pathetic Batting Collapse "The score is 66-5 lads" we were surprised but also very hungry so just casually ate and wrestled each other before the 2nd innings resumed. Papa Jabar would come in at no.5 and smash the bear for 18 runs of his over enroute to helping his team win the game that day and I returned home to find that Pakistan had lost the game.

It wasn't until the evening that I had quiet a few family members come to my house and bring news that Bob Woolmer was no more, cried for a few hours and didn't go to sleep. Then I was so angry I promised myself that I'd never watch or play cricket again, but few years later I was in the library and came across a book "art and science of cricket" it was by Bob Woolmer, I picked it up and was in there hours reading it and admiring how passionate and knowledgeable Bob Woolmer was and I also ripped out the entire chapter on spin bowling and put in my pants before escaping the Library as if I had a $1 million dollars hidden in my chadeez:))) which btw helped me get selected in the first XI of a club which played in the prestigious Birmingham Premier League.

It's so sad, what I hate more then anything is when good people suffer.

As Lil Wayne once said and I also find myself asking the same question:

" And I'm grindin' until I'm tired
And you ain't grindin' until you tired
So I'm grinding with my eyes wide
Looking to find,
A way through the day
The life of the night
Dear lord you've take so many of my people
I'm just wondering why you haven't taken my life
Like what the hell am I doing right? "

RIP Bob Woolmer, we will always cherish you.

:)))

Serious thread, but post cracked me up as usual.
 
Greatest Pakistani coach and possibly the greatest coach ever.

Woolmer had a relationship with the players and fans that no other coach would probably have. He understood the psyche of Pakistan cricket better than most people, and he shaped it beautifully.

2004-2006 was a very good period for Pakistan cricket with some memorable performances. It is a shame that it had to end on such a terrible note.

Woolmer may have spent 3 years only, but he is a Pakistan cricket legend.

I really do miss his white laptop.

Great Post Mamoon and when one thinks of Woolmer, you can't forget that Laptop!

We had a decent run under him and it was also remarkable how he managed to bring out the best from the utility cricketers. I hope he is inducted into the ICC Hall of Fame
 
Woolmer told a story about batting with Colin Cowdrey for Kent, against Garry Sobers, who was bowling his left-arm swingers.

Woolmer was barely hanging on in a strokeless state as the great Bajan beat him again and again on both sides of the bat. Cowdrey said - see if you can get one run this over. Just nudge a single somewhere. Woolmer managed it. Next over Cowdrey said - this time, try to nudge a single to off. Again Woolmer managed it. Slowly the mental shackles came off and Woolmer was able to tick over alongside his illustrious partner, who was scoring freely.

Much later, Woolmer realised that Cowdrey had given him a lesson on how to play a very dangerous swing bowler. Woolmer never forgot the lesson.

Very insightful post, it's great to read stories about Bob Woolmer as a batsman. What did you make of him as a player Robert? and did you ever watch him Bat in your time?
 
Yes Miss Him. He had great Eye and his Coaching Skills were great.


He was unlike many here for whom Score Sheets are the Merit only.


15 Fast Bowlers had taken more wickets than Asif in Qea trophy 2004 when Bob picked him ahead of all of them and He toured Australia and made Test Debut. Do the Scoresheet Brigade have the Audacity to say that Bob Woolmer was Unfair and killed Merit ? ?



Bob contributed alot to Younis & Yousuf's batting.


[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] don't worry Mickey will cause Usama Mir's Selection despite Score Sheet brigade crying :)
 
Yes Miss Him. He had great Eye and his Coaching Skills were great.


He was unlike many here for whom Score Sheets are the Merit only.


15 Fast Bowlers had taken more wickets than Asif in Qea trophy 2004 when Bob picked him ahead of all of them and He toured Australia and made Test Debut. Do the Scoresheet Brigade have the Audacity to say that Bob Woolmer was Unfair and killed Merit ? ?



Bob contributed alot to Younis & Yousuf's batting.



[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] don't worry Mickey will cause Usama Mir's Selection despite Score Sheet brigade crying :)

Great point, someone with an eye for talent and an understanding of the game wouldn't entirely go by the numbers; they will watch the player in action and judge their skill set for themselves to get a better picture of what they bring to the team. Most people on here think they are students of the game and more knowledgeable then bob was! I doubt they've ever picked up a ball or a bat or played a decent enough level to have a better insight into the sport not that it's essential because what we speak of is just common sense.

If it was up to the Score Sheet Brigade Sami Aslam would never have been picked for this Test series in England, they had thrown the knives at him the moment his name was announced in the squad.
 
Will always love Bob, he was not just a family member for the pak players but the people's champion and the man of the fans; greatest coach in the history of sport not just cricket. No one comes close, don't care whatever old fossil you come up with from 1000 B.C [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
 
I agree with [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION], even what he says about Warwickshire!

And I miss Bob on a personal level too. He was an absolutely treasured pen-pal, who never had a bad word to say about his players and indeed treated them all - even Shoaib Akhtar - as if they were his family.
 
I agree with [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION], even what he says about Warwickshire!

And I miss Bob on a personal level too. He was an absolutely treasured pen-pal, who never had a bad word to say about his players and indeed treated them all - even Shoaib Akhtar - as if they were his family.

11th death anniversary today [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION]

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What a loss. Was so stoked when he joined us; could say that he was without doubt the best coach in the world at that point.
 
Yes Miss Him. He had great Eye and his Coaching Skills were great.


He was unlike many here for whom Score Sheets are the Merit only.


15 Fast Bowlers had taken more wickets than Asif in Qea trophy 2004 when Bob picked him ahead of all of them and He toured Australia and made Test Debut. Do the Scoresheet Brigade have the Audacity to say that Bob Woolmer was Unfair and killed Merit ? ?



Bob contributed alot to Younis & Yousuf's batting.



[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] don't worry Mickey will cause Usama Mir's Selection despite Score Sheet brigade crying :)

Bob was exceptional coach , wish PCB had utilized him better and earlier. maybe if he was brought before in 2001 - 2002 , Pakistan would have been much better side in 2003 WC
 
He was a good coach for a team with unfocused match winners.
Served as father figure in a transition era for Pakistan cricket when Inzi was the only one left from the previous generation.
I should add that inzi probably started as a reluctant captain: Woolmer did his part to coax him towards being a better captain.
In terms of howlers, his faith in imran Farhat was diabolical: the series before the 2004 one in Australia Pakistan had been badly beaten in South Africa. Only Taufeeq Umar stood tall in that debut test series: scoring a century and two half centuries. He comfortably outscored Inzi, Youhana, Yk. It was a dumb thing for him to do to drop Taufeeq in favor of Farhat for the subsequent tour of Australia.
 
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