How many Pakistanis/desi Muslims abroad eat halal and non-halal?

[FreakCricket]

I was wondering how many pakistanis or even indians or just muslims in general eat halal or non-halal(chadka or whtever its called in desi lingo).

99% i go for halal, this one time i went for skiing and was really hungry only option was to eat chicken so i went for it no biggie.

 

[Syed1]

At home all the meat that is cooked or consumed is halal, but we might eat non-halal outside because we have to live here for the rest of the lives and cannot just go on eating desi/Arab food.

 

[zabalestmsm]

Some months ago when i visited USA, i ate chicken there most of the times.... went to some local restaurants as well... Then in Canada, ate a steak in Quebec... And after that was at my aunt's house, so ate at home mostly and once went to an Afghani restaurant... Only once ate kosher meat (my aunt said its halal)...

 

[FreakCricket]

At home all the meat that is cooked or consumed is halal, but we might eat non-halal outside because we have to live here for the rest of the lives and cannot just go on eating desi/Arab food.

Well i live in ny plenty of choices out here, i only go for halal. Keeps me healthy too, this way i avoid fast food like popeye chicken and etc. I usually go for chipotle, subway and turkish/Mediterranean food.

 

[srh]

all halal all the time

If halal is not available then go veggie

 

[GenericBrand]

I eat non-halal when I go out

 

[StreetSmart]

need a poll, urgh why dont users have this power very archaic of PP.

I was wondering how many pakistanis or even indians or just muslims in general eat halal or non-halal(chadka or whtever its called in desi lingo).

99% i go for halal, this one time i went for skiing and was really hungry only option was to eat chicken so i went for it no biggie.

100% i go for Halal , Thank fully alot of Muslims are moving to Madison,Wi side and i am sure desi`s are starting to open more and more halal stores here

 

[StreetSmart]

I have seen few people buying non-halal KFC chicken recite Bismillah and eat it by saying now it is halal and I was like wow how can any one make a fool of him self that easily :-D

 

[Syed1]

I have seen few people buying non-halal KFC chicken recite Bismillah and eat it by saying now it is halal and I was like wow how can any one make a fool of him self that easily :-D

There is a thing called to each his own.. That is the person's choice whether he wants to eat halal or not. One should worry about oneself only..

 

[dandapinda]

There is a thing called to each his own.. That is the person's choice whether he wants to eat halal or not. One should worry about oneself only..

I guess he is talking about how saying bismillah converts non halal to halal.

 

[Syed1]

I guess he is talking about how saying bismillah converts non halal to halal.

I'll be honest with you, I eat meat without worrying whether it is halal or not. The only thing I make sure is that it is not pork.

Now sometimes we get people/friends who come up to us and say "oh the meat you are consuming is not halal" and our standard response is "we have said bismillah".. We are not dumb, saying bismillah does not automatically make it halal, it is just a polite way of telling people to mind their own damn business.

 

[ahmedzee]

I eat Halal always.

Btw, there is no such thing as NON-HALAL. It is HARAAM. Simple as that.

People living in cities like London, Toronto (GTA), NYC, Houston etc should have no excuse to eat Haraam. There is a halal joint in every corner. I have seen just for the sake of cuisine change people go for Haraam chicken/Beef.

In case there is no option at all (like the Skii resort example given) in the OP, that's the only way eating Haraam chicken is justified.

 

[StreetSmart]

I'll be honest with you, I eat meat without worrying whether it is halal or not. The only thing I make sure is that it is not pork.

Now sometimes we get people/friends who come up to us and say "oh the meat you are consuming is not halal" and our standard response is "we have said bismillah".. We are not dumb, saying bismillah does not automatically make it halal, it is just a polite way of telling people to mind their own damn business.

Well you are absolutely right we need to mind our own business but as a Muslim if we are knowledgeable enough we should tell the other person this:

"He only prohibits for you the eating of animals that die of themselves (without human interference), blood, the meat of pigs, and animals dedicated to other than God. If one is forced (to eat these), without being malicious or deliberate, he incurs no sin. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful." 2:173

Still I am saying it is none of my business but stopping someone to make commit a sin is not bad

The word halal and haram was used for some reason

 

[sshakir411]

never met other Muslims except desis who go in to fine details with halal/non-halal, zabihah/non-zabihah. It's a joke. Somehow to most desis this determines how good of a Muslim you are.

 

[Slog]

Spent 6 years in US. Prolly kept halal for 6 days

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

Who cares? Religion is no set thing. Everyone has their own views of what is religion and what is not, and everyone judges everyone else on being incorrect in their practices which is in and of itself a sin.

One person says they believe Islam is this, another says it is that, and they both try to boost their ego, self esteem, and try to be pretentious of their beliefs being true religion.

People care more of telling others that they are wrong and that their own opinion is right than actually living by a set of morals and ethics that makes them feel proud of who they are.

It's unfortunate we have so many self conscious people with such low self esteem who bolster their self worth by belittling others and their beliefs.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I have seen few people buying non-halal KFC chicken recite Bismillah and eat it by saying now it is halal and I was like wow how can any one make a fool of him self that easily :-D

I like to drink wine and eat pork too. My secret is i say bismillah before consuming them

 

[StreetSmart]

I like to drink wine and eat pork too. My secret is i say bismillah before consuming them

and this is wrong Islam is a delicate religion please research before making any decision which you think is not in favour

 

[marlonbrowndo]

and this is wrong Islam is a delicate religion please research before making any decision which you think is not in favour

I was joking....

 

[Adil_94]

The majority of halal meat in the UK at least is stunned before slaughter. So technically that makes it haram. Only difference is after "halal" meat is stunned the azaan is said while their throats are slit and the blood is drained out. I am not religious at all but dont eat pork smell puts me off. Eat other meats though e.g a taco bell opened in my city and i was desperate to go i was in line and some hijabi cut in front to ask the cashier if it was halal while i was ordering, she said no. The Beef tacos were very nice though.

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[shah_1]

I never even ate a Fish Burger in NON HALAL place because the fish is cooked in same oil that's used to cook the pig meat so NEVER.

 

[PetroDollars]

I went to USA for 2 weeks and though, how do people keep halal here with places in n out, shake shack, taco bell, five guys, it was food heaven.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Halal always.

 

[StreetSmart]

I was joking....

ohh you gave me a mini Heart attack

 

[ExplicitAI]

Since I'm in the UK I only go to places that serve halal food if they have the word "halal" on their windows. This may sound silly but is there a valid proof that Halal Subways are purely halal? Even KFC, McDonalds, Burger King and other places? I just want to know out of curiosity.

 

[Syed1]

The majority of halal meat in the UK at least is stunned before slaughter. So technically that makes it haram. Only difference is after "halal" meat is stunned the azaan is said while their throats are slit and the blood is drained out. I am not religious at all but dont eat pork smell puts me off. Eat other meats though e.g a taco bell opened in my city and i was desperate to go i was in line and some hijabi cut in front to ask the cashier if it was halal while i was ordering, she said no. The Beef tacos were very nice though.

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You guys have line ups at Taco Bell?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Adil_94]

Since I'm in the UK I only go to places that serve halal food if they have the word "halal" on their windows. This may sound silly but is there a valid proof that Halal Subways are purely halal? Even KFC, McDonalds, Burger King and other places? I just want to know out of curiosity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8059218.stm. this will answer about kfc also other places that use HFA. And Burger King and McDonald have never done halal food.

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[Adil_94]

You guys have line ups at Taco Bell?!?!?!?!?!

A new shopping centre opened in my city and Taco Bell opened a counter in the food court. So there wasnt much room anyway to stand but to form a queue. The reason there was a line was because it was the first week of its opening. and also we have like only 5 Taco Bells in the whole of the UK. Mexican Food is rare here outside the larger cities.

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[Hamza78]

I always eat halal no Matter what happens

 

[sjahmed23]

I went to USA for 2 weeks and though, how do people keep halal here with places in n out, shake shack, taco bell, five guys, it was food heaven.

None of that even comes close to The Halal Guys

Mostly halal, occasionally I will eat chicken from outside, but nothing more than chicken or tuna.

 

[ExplicitAI]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8059218.stm. this will answer about kfc also other places that use HFA. And Burger King and McDonald have never done halal food.

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Thanks for sending me this. I tend to go McDonalds to get a fish burger and nothing else )

 

[Saeed]

Never eaten anything Haram in my life. There was this Pakistani kid in my High school that used to eat haram chicken. On top of it he used to eat with open mouth and it was disgusting. Seems like some parents don't feed their children and they turn to Haram things.

 

[Bewal Express]

Never knowingly I have eaten non halal. Just the thought makes me sick.

 

[IAJ]

The majority of halal meat in the UK at least is stunned before slaughter. So technically that makes it haram. Only difference is after "halal" meat is stunned the azaan is said while their throats are slit and the blood is drained out. I am not religious at all but dont eat pork smell puts me off. Eat other meats though e.g a taco bell opened in my city and i was desperate to go i was in line and some hijabi cut in front to ask the cashier if it was halal while i was ordering, she said no. The Beef tacos were very nice though.

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As long as the animal doesn't die of the stunning you can slaughter it in halal way. The problem occurs if the chicken dies before the slaughter.
I only eat IRN certified meat in Norway, IRN is like HMC in UK.

 

[Suleiman]

Yeah wanted to know this too since I'm torn.

See my parents believe that the meat has to be halal or at least kosher to be edible for Muslims. And obviously I was brought up with this belief too.

However my grandfather doesn't believe in it that strongly even though he religious. He used to be a businessman so traveled across the world quite a lot, someone said it ad a joke here, but he used to just say Bismillah and eat the meat or chicken whether it was halal or non halal.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

im not very religious but Me personally never ate haram or drank. I think its a mental barrier...

 

[Suleiman]

But I have to say whenever I go out to eat with my non-muslim friends, it is very tempting to order a meat dish like a steak or a hamburger seeing them eat it, instead I have to opt for fish, and if there's no fish, have to go for a veggie dish which is not my style but not like I have a choice.

Now I know how my Hindu friend in Qatar must've felt when he came to eat with our Pakistani and Arab friends and saw us gorging on kebabs and shish tawook while he had to eat hummus or baba ghanoosh.

 

[shaz619]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8059218.stm. this will answer about kfc also other places that use HFA. And Burger King and McDonald have never done halal food.

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Over the years have covered the HFA halal, non-halal debate in great depth on PP over the years but now I just say to myself what was the point? and why did I go through hell to ensure what I ate was halal beyond my home city where halal don't come easy. Am not saying I eat haram now because I never have but I don't be so fussed like the way I use to be but HFA are the worst governing body; all the speculation surrounding their legitimacy was confirmed by the horse meat fiasco, there ought to be a divide anyway between people who prefer stunned and those who don't but going by family and friends who have worked in the fast food takeaway and restaurant business HFA tend to contaminate their version of halal and haram. The biggest culprits are Bengali places, they have no respect for Halal or basic health/safety; 9 times out of 10 what they give you is haram if they have't been closed down after multiple inspection warnings. HMC is a lot better and most suppliers have begun to use them given their methods which have improved over the years but from those who have worked with them they have said the slaughter houses are never in the best condition although am not sure if that has changed.

 

[The_KING]

Halal always. In South London where I live, there are halal food shops everywhere so no Muslim there has any excuse of eating non halal food imo.

 

[The_KING]

Thanks for sending me this. I tend to go McDonalds to get a fish burger and nothing else )

Lol same here

 

[dayvancowboy]

I don't really care as long as it's not pork and its cooked well. I work an hour away from home and many of the halal places are pretty limited where my office is so I'm not going to drive 25-30 minutes away to the nearest halal burger joint for it.

Although when I was living overseas on my own in Aus all the meat I cooked at my place was strictly halal so I still had my limits.

 

[dashing_man]

I never had a problem really finding Halal food. When I was in Quebec, I befriended a farmer and he allowed me to sacrifice my animals in his farm

on another note: many of my Canadian friends found the meat I ate more delicious

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

I never had a problem really finding Halal food. When I was in Quebec, I befriended a farmer and he allowed me to sacrifice my animals in his farm

on another note: many of my Canadian friends found the meat I ate more delicious

You beast. You cut the animals you eat with your own bare-hands. Damn.

and lol at the more delicious point; how cutting in a different way changes the taste?

 

[dashing_man]

You beast. You cut the animals you eat with your own bare-hands. Damn.

and lol at the more delicious point; how cutting in a different way changes the taste?

there is a difference. I've never tasted slaughtered meat so I can't tell but my friends said that it has more blood in it whereas in sacrificed meat, almost all the blood is drained out

 

[hamzie]

Been in australia for about 9 years now
and ive ate halal for about.... 9 years

 

[CricFan2012]

Really surprised that some people call themselves Muslims even after eating non halal.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Really surprised that some people call themselves Muslims even after eating non halal.

They may be good or not so good muslims, but are muslims nevertheless.

BTW Congrats on 786 posts.

 

[CricFan2012]

They may be good or not so good muslims, but are muslims nevertheless.

BTW Congrats on 786 posts.

But I thought Muslims weren't allowed to drink alcohol, eat pork, eat haram? Can somebody pull out a page or something

 

[Slog]

But I thought Muslims weren't allowed to drink alcohol, eat pork, eat haram? Can somebody pull out a page or something

Only requirement of being called a Muslim is believing in the oneness of Allah and that Prophet Muhammad pbuh was the the seal of the Prophets

 

[CricFan2012]

Only requirement of being called a Muslim is believing in the oneness of Allah and that Prophet Muhammad pbuh was the the seal of the Prophets

Now isn't that the same as being called a Protestant in the Christian faith? I thought Muslims were supposed to be overtly religious

 

[Pace90]

At home all the meat that is cooked or consumed is halal, but we might eat non-halal outside because we have to live here for the rest of the lives and cannot just go on eating desi/Arab food.

I do exactly the same. I don't want my kids not to enjoy Gods blessings "Mcdonald" . I don't drink, don't smoke but eating non-halal meat outside, don't consider a big deal.

 

[IAJ]

But I thought Muslims weren't allowed to drink alcohol, eat pork, eat haram? Can somebody pull out a page or something

You are right Muslims are not allowed to eat pork and drink alcohol, but you should be careful by calling them non-muslims.
If a person hasn't commited kufr he is still a muslim, but a bad one. That is how I have understood it, and ask Allah for forgivness if I haven't understood it properly.

 

[CricFan2012]

I do exactly the same. I don't want my kids not to enjoy Gods blessings "Mcdonald" . I don't drink, don't smoke but eating non-halal meat outside, don't consider a big deal.

Lol Gods blessing McDonalds... Do you have any idea what you're feeding them? McDonalds is the worst food you can treat your kids with

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

In the UK halal food is well catered for so there's no need to eat anything else. I had an English friend who used to buy his meat from a halal meat shop because he liked that it had been drained of blood properly.

One thing I am not too fussed about is if it is certified or not. If it is being sold as halal then it is halal and it's good enough for me.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

By the way, I do feel for the Muslims who live in the US, I can't imagine there are that many options for you guys, although I would imagine a lot of you just eat whatever you like.

I was planning on holidaying in California or Florida but then I think would I really want to go somewhere where most of the food will be catered to non-Muslims. There are of course seafood and veggie options, but let's face it, it's the grills and steakhouses which the US is famous for.

 

[dashing_man]

By the way, I do feel for the Muslims who live in the US, I can't imagine there are that many options for you guys, although I would imagine a lot of you just eat whatever you like.

I was planning on holidaying in California or Florida but then I think would I really want to go somewhere where most of the food will be catered to non-Muslims. There are of course seafood and veggie options, but let's face it, it's the grills and steakhouses which the US is famous for.

the best part of living in the US of A is that you can make your own choices regarding everything. You are allowed to sacrifice animals your own way. Its just people are lazy and kanjoos that don't want to spend extra $$ for their tummy satisfaction

 

[kabbirann]

never met other Muslims except desis who go in to fine details with halal/non-halal, zabihah/non-zabihah. It's a joke. Somehow to most desis this determines how good of a Muslim you are.

Not a Muslim,but that's my experience as well.
Had a Egyptian work mate who ate non-halal after saying a prayer while the desi Muslims were v.pedantic about it.
Interestingly ,he was rather condescending with them and would mock their pronunciation of arabic words in their prayer .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

the best part of living in the US of A is that you can make your own choices regarding everything. You are allowed to sacrifice animals your own way. Its just people are lazy and kanjoos that don't want to spend extra $$ for their tummy satisfaction

Or maybe they just want to go to a restaurant and order whatever they like rather than buy a goat and sacrifice it in their back yard.

 

[dashing_man]

Or maybe they just want to go to a restaurant and order whatever they like rather than buy a goat and sacrifice it in their back yard.

yup as I said too lazy or maybe insecure about other people thinking about them

 

[Evi1]

yup as I said too lazy or maybe insecure about other people thinking about them

Or maybe it requires a certain skill to slaughter an animal and prepare the meat.

My uncle slaughter his own animal, but then again he is a passionate foodie and quality snob.

 

[Evi1]

Besides, if you slaughter a goat in your backyard, isn't storing the meat bit of a challenge if you don't have a wall size fridge or a large family?

Fair enough on Eid, you distribute 2/3 of the meat, but for normal routine, it is bit of a challenge.

 

[dashing_man]

Or maybe it requires a certain skill to slaughter an animal and prepare the meat.

My uncle slaughter his own animal, but then again he is a passionate foodie and quality snob.

dude a deep freezer can store a whole carcass and why not have one solely for meat

and animal sacrificing and how to prepare meat can be seen on youtube as professional teach you how to do it

 

[Evi1]

dude a deep freezer can store a whole carcass and why not have one solely for meat

and animal sacrificing and how to prepare meat can be seen on youtube as professional teach you how to do it

Again it is not as simple as you are making out to be. Desi deep freezers are usually filled whole bunch of other stuff.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

yup as I said too lazy or maybe insecure about other people thinking about them

Eating in restaurants doesn't necessarily have anything to do with laziness or insecurity. It's a social occasion which you will find in most countries including religious countries like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. No idea why you are going down this road but it's a strange argument.

 

[Slog]

Fretting about halal haram chicken or beef is one of the more mundane things in our religion imo. Never understood why it's there. What's the reason?

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

I think praying, being honest, being a good human and not indulging in adultery are much bigger things than eating hilal or haram but our people as usual have got their priorities wrong.

 

[Adil_94]

Not a Muslim,but that's my experience as well.
Had a Egyptian work mate who ate non-halal after saying a prayer while the desi Muslims were v.pedantic about it.
Interestingly ,he was rather condescending with them and would mock their pronunciation of arabic words in their prayer .

Yeah a friend of mine is quite religious he is desi and never eats haram. and his friend from uni is a Qatari and he bought meat from the local supermarket which was haram. Even though the city has a large muslim minority and halal meat is readily available. Non Halal meat is a lot cheaper, the Qatari was like i just said bismillah and that this is a Christian country they are People of The Book so its ok.

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[Adil_94]

Fretting about halal haram chicken or beef is one of the more mundane things in our religion imo. Never understood why it's there. What's the reason?

At that time Halal was the quickest and most painless way of slaughter i think. And the tribal practices were more cruel. So Muslims adopted the same slaughter method as Kosher just less strict.

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[dashing_man]

Eating in restaurants doesn't necessarily have anything to do with laziness or insecurity. It's a social occasion which you will find in most countries including religious countries like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. No idea why you are going down this road but it's a strange argument.

Because I've met such excuses

 

[speed]

Yeah a friend of mine is quite religious he is desi and never eats haram. and his friend from uni is a Qatari and he bought meat from the local supermarket which was haram. Even though the city has a large muslim minority and halal meat is readily available. Non Halal meat is a lot cheaper, the Qatari was like i just said bismillah and that this is a Christian country they are People of The Book so its ok.

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Salafi sheikhs like bin baz has oked eating meat prepared by Christians and Jews, I was surprised at first when I read about this.

 

[dayvancowboy]

When many butchers in Iraq were mostly Assyrian Christians, they better be alright with buying and consuming meat prepared by them.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

At the end of the day, everyone has got freewill, no one can judge anyone....

 

[Garuda]

Almost all my Muslim friends opt for halal food ( though all of them drink alcohol). Except this one guy who was okay with all kinds of meat except pork. However, he became very particular about halal meat and no-alcohol since last 2 years or so .


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[Professor]

Always had Halal(may have had non-halal unintentionally once or twice ) , Anyways never even thought of tying non-halal meat especially because so many halal options exist in Toronto,

 

[Laal]

Family eats Halal only. I eat non-Halal when I go out.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Family eats Halal only. I eat non-Halal when I go out.

That's interesting. I would hate to have that sort of disconnect from my family. But in some parts of the world it's not an option.

 

[Firebreaker]

I am not a Desi or Pakistani and I have never eaten non Halal food in every country I went which are: Italy,US,Canada,Sri Lanka,India,England,Scotland,Singapore,Thailand,Germany,Norway,Sweden,Austria,Switzerland,Denmark,South Africa.Not including Muslim countries like KSA,Turkey,Pakistan,Malaysia

 

[Suleiman]

But I thought Muslims weren't allowed to drink alcohol, eat pork, eat haram? Can somebody pull out a page or something

fun fact: When Islam was still a very new religion, Muslims used to drink alcohol, but the next batch of verses from the Quran sent down outlawed it, and from then on we were forbidden to drink it.

However there are hadiths out there (basically incidents the Prophet PBUH mentioned) where there were Muslims under the influence of alcohol or just simply heavy drinkers or maybe even just immoral in general, yet when they committed something positive, like feeding a starving dog, or saving someone's life, their sins were forgiven.

Basically like [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] said, the main thing in being a Muslim is accepting that there is no God but Allah and Mohammad PBUH is his prophet. If you believe that truly in your heart then you are a Muslim.

 

[Alizai]

In UK halal outlets r everywhere so no excuse for Muslim to eat haram


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[Haroon786]

Maybe in the rare occurrence, perhaps once or twice but that would be it - have always tried my best to eat Halal and I am fortunate to have plenty of Halal meat shops in my local area, so distance like it may be in the US is not an issue for us.