How much more damage can Pakistan sustain from the Shehbaz Sharif/PPP regime?

[MenInG]

Economy crippled
Mockery of Law and order
Mockery of the legal system

Sitting in London whilst his country burns.

What must happen before he will be removed?

Will a complete destruction of the country be the pre-requisite before PMLN supporters and their cronies realize what he is doing?

 

[MenInG]

This thing has not made one statement to allay fears for his countryfolk

What is this person like?

 

[Extra_Cover]

PM of the country is out of Pakistan as we speak
Army chief is not in Pakistan
Former army chief is not in Pakistan
DG ISI reportedly not in Pakistan
Punjab caretaker CM not in Pakistan

When your ship is sinking and captain is not on board they have no right to be called captain again.

 

[MenInG]

LONDON/KARACHI, May 10 (Reuters) - The political crisis engulfing Pakistan is eroding hopes that the South Asian country can get its much needed programme with the International Monetary Fund back on track soon and escape a full-blown debt crunch, analysts said.

Violent clashes between supporters of Imran Khan and police broke out across the country after Pakistan's anti-corruption agency arrested the former prime minister on Tuesday.

The latest rupture in Pakistan's febrile politics comes as the 230-million-population nation prepares to hold tightly fought elections in the autumn while facing its worst economic crisis in decades, with dwindling reserves and a stalled $6.5 billion IMF programme that is expiring in June and scarce other financing sources in sight.

"With protesters on the streets, the IMF will be even more wary about restarting the loan deal," said Gareth Leather, senior economist for Emerging Asia at Capital Economics.

The turmoil since Khan was ousted just over a year ago has scarred the country's economy and markets.

Pakistan's rupee has lost nearly 50% over the past 12 months. The main stock index (.KSE) has suffered a double-digit decline over the same period.

On Wednesday, the rupee tumbled to a fresh record low of 289.5 to the dollar. The country's international bonds, already in deeply distressed territory of as little as 32 cents, dropped more than 1 cent in the dollar on the day.

JPMorgan analyst Milo Gunasinghe said little relief from political uncertainty was in sight while the IMF programme remained stalled.

"The latest developments likely dampen any prospect of a political breakthrough across both sides," Milo said.

The bank recently lowered its 2023 growth forecast for the country from 1.3% to 0.1% and warned of "stagflation shock" due to delays in the IMF talks, while the central bank hiked its key interest rate to a record 21% to fight double-digit inflation.

The nuclear-armed nation faces the risk of a default unless it receives massive support. The gross public debt-to-GDP ratio stands at 73.5%, according to government data as of December. Foreign exchange reserves at $4.457 billion cover barely a month's worth of imports.

"The IMF has the capacity and the flexibility to help member counties in a variety of political circumstances," said Reza Baqir, former central bank governor of Pakistan and global head of sovereign advisory services at Alvarez and Marsal.

"It is usually up to the country to present a credible plan of policies and financing that, in the face of political uncertainty, will credibly address the members’ balance of payment problems."

The armed forces remain Pakistan's most powerful institution, having ruled directly for close to half the country's 75-year history through three coups.

Hasnain Malik, head of equity research at London-based Tellimer, added that unless martial law was imposed, there was no reason for the IMF to suspend discussions.

"However, instances of violence likely justify a postponement in the election and make credibly committing to painful fiscal cuts even harder," he said.

 

[Major]

Its not the pakistani legal system that caught the money trail it was UK.

The case is legit, timing arrest was not right, and the fact that Malik Riaz is going scott free is a problem. No one wants to discuss Malik Riaz.

However the protestors are doing the right damage. The damage needs to be done on the army. Pakistan never had a revolution so the damage needs to be sustained. Its now or never.

Never in 50 years will we see the country try to rise agaisnt the army. Even now PTI leadership dont want this to happen, but finally the supporters are doing the right protest.

 

[the Great Khan]

Its not the pakistani legal system that caught the money trail it was UK.

The case is legit, timing arrest was not right, and the fact that Malik Riaz is going scott free is a problem. No one wants to discuss Malik Riaz.

However the protestors are doing the right damage. The damage needs to be done on the army. Pakistan never had a revolution so the damage needs to be sustained. Its now or never.

Never in 50 years will we see the country try to rise agaisnt the army. Even now PTI leadership dont want this to happen, but finally the supporters are doing the right protest.

So youre a lawyer now and you know this case is legit lol..Please.. before Khan would go straight in the media and present his case and why it is being probed. But now they have him in shackles and we can only speculate. Bus kissi tura is ko corrupt declare kurna hay for level playing field...oh bhai kahani haat say nikalnay wali hay..if the shariefs think they are gonna get a fairy tale they are mistaken. Same with your caliph Bilawal.

 

[MenInG]

Where is he?

What manner of cowards are this man and his brother.

 

[JaDed]

While posters might say its not an issue but in South Asian countries dual nationalities don’t work like people think it does.

A leader should be afraid of his votebase and work harder, this is a joke, I wonder how many relatives of the PDM Establishment hold dual nationalities.

 

[Major]

So youre a lawyer now and you know this case is legit lol..Please.. before Khan would go straight in the media and present his case and why it is being probed. But now they have him in shackles and we can only speculate. Bus kissi tura is ko corrupt declare kurna hay for level playing field...oh bhai kahani haat say nikalnay wali hay..if the shariefs think they are gonna get a fairy tale they are mistaken. Same with your caliph Bilawal.

For you Imran must be a caliph, but for me politicians are not caliph.

Its your UK's own investigation. ANd than Dawn did their investigative journalism. But you have blind love for him so wont say anything and dicussion wont go anywhere as usual.

 

[MenInG]

For you Imran must be a caliph, but for me politicians are not caliph.

Its your UK's own investigation. ANd than Dawn did their investigative journalism. But you have blind love for him so wont say anything and dicussion wont go anywhere as usual.

Bro

You seem infatuated with the UK.

Leave that for this thread.

This thread is about the incompetence and the treachery of the Sharifs and their cronies.

 

[MenInG]

The Pakistani rupee on Thursday recorded all time low against the US dollar with the local unit losing Rs 11.16 in interbank trade, ARY News reported.

According to the details, the US dollar continues to rise on the fourth day of the business week and remains at the highest level.

In interbank trading, the dollar became more expensive, reaching Rs296 at the highest level, meanwhile, selling for over Rs300 in the open market.

 

[Sher Khan]

Where is he?

What manner of cowards are this man and his brother.

Brother, please don't use bad language. Nawaz Sharif is 1000 times braver than your Messiah Imran Khan.

Your Messiah has spread such anarchy and propaganda throughout the country, that Nawaz Sharif's life is in danger the moment he sets foot in the country.

 

[MenInG]

Brother, please don't use bad language. Nawaz Sharif is 1000 times braver than your Messiah Imran Khan.

Your Messiah has spread such anarchy and propaganda throughout the country, that Nawaz Sharif's life is in danger the moment he sets foot in the country.

Apologies if calling someone a coward is bad language.

However, do you think calling Imran my messiah is good language? Do you understand what sort of biddah that is for a Muslim?

I expect an apology too.

Back to the topic

The damage done to Pakistan by the Sharifs is being felt on a daily basis by the millions

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KARACHI, Pakistan (Reuters) - Point-of-sale transactions routed through Pakistan's main digital payments system fell by nearly 50% the day after former Prime Minister Imran Khan's arrest ignited countrywide protests and prompted authorities to shut down mobile internet services, data showed on Thursday.

The reason for the slump was primarily the mobile broadband suspension, in addition to lower footfall at the limited number of stores opened due to the political turmoil, payments system operator 1LINK told Reuters.

The violent protests that followed Khan's arrest on Tuesday by the country's anti-graft agency have hit commercial activity in Pakistan hard.

Mobile data services have remained shut since Tuesday night on the orders of the interior ministry - the longest such continuous shutdown in a country that often suspends communications as a tool to quell unrest.

Many major roads and businesses have also remained shut, mainly in the eastern city of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city.

Data shared with Reuters by 1LINK on its point-of-sale (POS) machines showed international payment card transactions were down on Wednesday by 45% in volume, from a daily average of 127,000 during the week of May 1 to 7 to approximately 68,000 on May 10.

The daily value of transactions using international payment cards was down 46%, from 606 million rupees ($2.14 million) to 330 million rupees ($1.16 million) on May 10.

1LINK is Pakistan's major facilitator of POS digital payment transactions for international platforms such as Visa and Mastercard.

Transactions on Pakistan's only domestic payment scheme, PayPak, were down 52% in volume to 18,000 transactions on Wednesday, and 56% down in value to roughly 62 million rupees ($218,775).

The State Bank of Pakistan did not immediately respond to questions sent by Reuters.

Cash transactions still dominate Pakistan's commercial dealings, with much of the market undocumented, but digital payments have been growing fast in the country of 220 million. Many retailers and industrialists across Pakistan have also said their activities had ground to a halt since the protests started on Tuesday.

More than 1,600 people have been arrested while five have been killed and hundreds injured in riots, including more than 160 policemen.

On Tuesday, the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) suspended mobile broadband services across the country.

Social media platforms such as Facebook, Youtube and Twitter were also down, resulting in demand for virtual private networks to surged by 1,329% on Wednesday compared with the average, according to Simon Migliano, Head of Research at Top10VPN.

Migliano calculates that the suspension of mobile broadband and social media platforms has cost nearly $100 million so far. ($1 = 283.4000 Pakistani rupees)

 

[the Great Khan]

For you Imran must be a caliph, but for me politicians are not caliph.

Its your UK's own investigation. ANd than Dawn did their investigative journalism. But you have blind love for him so wont say anything and dicussion wont go anywhere as usual.

Here we go again. We go round and round. You make statements without any real substance. Show me the links then coz you said it is a uk investigation. I'm open to discussing it but as usual facts aren't in your dictionary.

I believe he is fallible. I have no problem with that but by now we know his character and patterns. It's not rocket science. Unlike youre leader who is a liar theif and traitor.

By the way why haven't been out demonstrating against the vurdi walay?

 

[Varun]

While posters might say its not an issue but in South Asian countries dual nationalities don’t work like people think it does.

A leader should be afraid of his votebase and work harder, this is a joke, I wonder how many relatives of the PDM Establishment hold dual nationalities.

Forgot the PDM - they are just disposable politicians. Have you seen reports of how many in their military hold dual nationalities and their seniorities? Mind boggling.

 

[Major]

Here we go again. We go round and round. You make statements without any real substance. Show me the links then coz you said it is a uk investigation. I'm open to discussing it but as usual facts aren't in your dictionary.

I believe he is fallible. I have no problem with that but by now we know his character and patterns. It's not rocket science. Unlike youre leader who is a liar theif and traitor.

By the way why haven't been out demonstrating against the vurdi walay?

i have shared the linkk 100 times, you selecetely ignore, dont have time to waste on you. There is even a thread on it on the first page.

I would never protest for politicians who are scums.

 

[in_cutter]

Brother, please don't use bad language. Nawaz Sharif is 1000 times braver than your Messiah Imran Khan.

Your Messiah has spread such anarchy and propaganda throughout the country, that Nawaz Sharif's life is in danger the moment he sets foot in the country.

‘Nawaz 1000 times braver’

That’s the funniest thing I have read all year LOL

 

[in_cutter]

Brother, please don't use bad language. Nawaz Sharif is 1000 times braver than your Messiah Imran Khan.

Your Messiah has spread such anarchy and propaganda throughout the country, that Nawaz Sharif's life is in danger the moment he sets foot in the country.

Nawaz is the biggest criminal and coward

 

[FreakCricket]

When things were running fine, businesses were doing okay this piece of shiet decided to take over govt. Can't even open LC's, thousands of businesses are ruined because of this chump. Only corrupt dogs support him

 

[Sher Khan]

Apologies if calling someone a coward is bad language.

However, do you think calling Imran my messiah is good language? Do you understand what sort of biddah that is for a Muslim?

I expect an apology too.

Back to the topic

The damage done to Pakistan by the Sharifs is being felt on a daily basis by the millions

==


KARACHI, Pakistan (Reuters) - Point-of-sale transactions routed through Pakistan's main digital payments system fell by nearly 50% the day after former Prime Minister Imran Khan's arrest ignited countrywide protests and prompted authorities to shut down mobile internet services, data showed on Thursday.

The reason for the slump was primarily the mobile broadband suspension, in addition to lower footfall at the limited number of stores opened due to the political turmoil, payments system operator 1LINK told Reuters.

The violent protests that followed Khan's arrest on Tuesday by the country's anti-graft agency have hit commercial activity in Pakistan hard.

Mobile data services have remained shut since Tuesday night on the orders of the interior ministry - the longest such continuous shutdown in a country that often suspends communications as a tool to quell unrest.

Many major roads and businesses have also remained shut, mainly in the eastern city of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city.

Data shared with Reuters by 1LINK on its point-of-sale (POS) machines showed international payment card transactions were down on Wednesday by 45% in volume, from a daily average of 127,000 during the week of May 1 to 7 to approximately 68,000 on May 10.

The daily value of transactions using international payment cards was down 46%, from 606 million rupees ($2.14 million) to 330 million rupees ($1.16 million) on May 10.

1LINK is Pakistan's major facilitator of POS digital payment transactions for international platforms such as Visa and Mastercard.

Transactions on Pakistan's only domestic payment scheme, PayPak, were down 52% in volume to 18,000 transactions on Wednesday, and 56% down in value to roughly 62 million rupees ($218,775).

The State Bank of Pakistan did not immediately respond to questions sent by Reuters.

Cash transactions still dominate Pakistan's commercial dealings, with much of the market undocumented, but digital payments have been growing fast in the country of 220 million. Many retailers and industrialists across Pakistan have also said their activities had ground to a halt since the protests started on Tuesday.

More than 1,600 people have been arrested while five have been killed and hundreds injured in riots, including more than 160 policemen.

On Tuesday, the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) suspended mobile broadband services across the country.

Social media platforms such as Facebook, Youtube and Twitter were also down, resulting in demand for virtual private networks to surged by 1,329% on Wednesday compared with the average, according to Simon Migliano, Head of Research at Top10VPN.

Migliano calculates that the suspension of mobile broadband and social media platforms has cost nearly $100 million so far. ($1 = 283.4000 Pakistani rupees)

Okay, my apologies as well. Although, I meant Messiah in the sense of saviour of a nation and not in a religious context.

I've seen first hand, the sacrifices the Sharif family and some of their close party loyalists have given for the nation. We can't blame the condition of the country on them.

It's clear as day right now, why we haven't developed as a nation throughout our history.

 

[Bewal Express]

Brother, please don't use bad language. Nawaz Sharif is 1000 times braver than your Messiah Imran Khan.

Your Messiah has spread such anarchy and propaganda throughout the country, that Nawaz Sharif's life is in danger the moment he sets foot in the country.

A 1000 times braver whilst hiding in a flat in London. You Nooras haven't lost your comedic touch. In these terrible times of a criminal running PK, these light hearted moments make my day.

 

[Bewal Express]

Okay, my apologies as well. Although, I meant Messiah in the sense of saviour of a nation and not in a religious context.

I've seen first hand, the sacrifices the Sharif family and some of their close party loyalists have given for the nation. We can't blame the condition of the country on them.

It's clear as day right now, why we haven't developed as a nation throughout our history.

My heart bleeds for the family of criminals. Those sacrifices of living at Jati Umra or in Mayfair whilst stealing billions is something we should teach our children and aspire to for ourselves.

 

[Bewal Express]

‘Nawaz 1000 times braver’

That’s the funniest thing I have read all year LOL

He was being sarcastic.

 

[Rana]

Right now the only damage visible is the one by PTI supporters on the streets

 

[MenInG]

Right now the only damage visible is the one by PTI supporters on the streets

Obviously you aren't aware of the economic situation in Pakistan.

 

[FreakCricket]

Obviously you aren't aware of the economic situation in Pakistan.

Any Business folks from pakistan can tell you clearly how things were going in last administration compared to now!

 

[MenInG]

Okay, my apologies as well. Although, I meant Messiah in the sense of saviour of a nation and not in a religious context.

I've seen first hand, the sacrifices the Sharif family and some of their close party loyalists have given for the nation. We can't blame the condition of the country on them.

It's clear as day right now, why we haven't developed as a nation throughout our history.

I have seen first hand what they are capable of as well.

 

[Bewal Express]

Right now the only damage visible is the one by PTI supporters on the streets

And Not by criminals that arrested IK illegally on fake charges, along with another 150 fake charges. PK was growing at 6% and exports grew by a 1/3rd. Can you name achievements of these criminals in a year?

 

[Rana]

And Not by criminals that arrested IK illegally on fake charges, along with another 150 fake charges. PK was growing at 6% and exports grew by a 1/3rd. Can you name achievements of these criminals in a year?

It’s not as blatantly obvious as burning government buildings is it?

 

[the Great Khan]

i have shared the linkk 100 times, you selecetely ignore, dont have time to waste on you. There is even a thread on it on the first page.

I would never protest for politicians who are scums.

Which thread is this..unlike you I don't have the time to spend on pakpassion trawling through anti Imran threads..post the link here so I can read. Hopefully it won't be a blackzero thread from 2008.

 

[Bewal Express]

It’s not as blatantly obvious as burning government buildings is it?

People are emotional because they are seeing their country run by criminals like SS, NS and Munir. But who has caused the bigger damage? Who has murdered innocent journalists and investigators like Arshad Sharif, Dr Rizwan and workers like Zille Shah? Who has smashed the SC and attacked journalists like Sabir Shah.
When you have an answer for these then criticise the reaction, otherwise stick to making Asif Ali Captain

 

[Bewal Express]

Lol..you can wait a million years for a sensible post from rana

Making Asif Ali Captain was one of his more sensible suggestions

 

[Rana]

People are emotional because they are seeing their country run by criminals like SS, NS and Munir. But who has caused the bigger damage? Who has murdered innocent journalists and investigators like Arshad Sharif, Dr Rizwan and workers like Zille Shah? Who has smashed the SC and attacked journalists like Sabir Shah.
When you have an answer for these then criticise the reaction, otherwise stick to making Asif Ali Captain

Oh chal £300 mama! There is no justification for damaging public property

 

[Bewal Express]

Oh chal £300 mama! There is no justification for damaging public property

My 300 was my earnt cash, maybe you should try doing some halal work. No one that supports NS has ever done a single day's halal work.

 

[Rana]

My 300 was my earnt cash, maybe you should try doing some halal work. No one that supports NS has ever done a single day's halal work.

Maybe use your next savings to pay up for the costs of damage. I’m sure you can contribute by replacing a lamp post

 

[Bewal Express]

Oh chal £300 mama! There is no justification for damaging public property

Now that the pretense of i dont know much about Politics has been dropped, lets debate the criminality of the people you support.
You can't utter a word on all the damage done by criminals? Only last week SHA exposed 20bn stolen from the subsidised atta and this is when 30 people have died because the chaos of distribution by these criminals. Maybe you should explain why you corrupt thugs are running from elections.

 

[Rana]

Now that the pretense of i dont know much about Politics has been dropped, lets debate the criminality of the people you support.
You can't utter a word on all the damage done by criminals? Only last week SHA exposed 20bn stolen from the subsidised atta and this is when 30 people have died because the chaos of distribution by these criminals. Maybe you should explain why you corrupt thugs are running from elections.

What do you want me to say? Pay up for the damages incurred by the violent protests first or I’m sure Pak Government will have no issues recovering them by selling up Bani Gala

 

[Bewal Express]

Maybe use your next savings to pay up for the costs of damage. I’m sure you can contribute by replacing a lamp post

Tell me if this would have happened if the Punjab and Kp elections had been held. Tell me why they claimed they had no army for the elections but suddenly they have taken control of Pumjab and KP, Tell me why they said PK is so bankrupt that they didn't have 20bn for an election. Your lies want last long against me. So go back to claiming you don't know much about PK politics as a way to run from these questions. Lets a hear reply rather you running like friend

 

[Bewal Express]

What do you want me to say? Pay up for the damages incurred by the violent protests first or I’m sure Pak Government will have no issues recovering them by selling up Bani Gala

I want to you to explain why PK is under Martial Law? Why a man is arrested by the ISI in civilian case? Who has threatened the SC and why the elections have been delayed. Lets hear it Don, and don't run like you

 

[Bewal Express]

What do you want me to say? Pay up for the damages incurred by the violent protests first or I’m sure Pak Government will have no issues recovering them by selling up Bani Gala

When should have the elections for Punjab and KP taken place ..who compensates the PK people of no reps because Munir is taking orders from a criminal in London. You wanted a debate , lets have it.

 

[Rana]

When should have the elections for Punjab and KP taken place ..who compensates the PK people of no reps because Munir is taking orders from a criminal in London. You wanted a debate , lets have it.

First let’s see PTI set up a ‘damage to public property repair fund’. Then you all should contribute towards it because of your cheerleading towards the damage. Once you have contributed

We will have a debate

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Brother, please don't use bad language. Nawaz Sharif is 1000 times braver than your Messiah Imran Khan.

Your Messiah has spread such anarchy and propaganda throughout the country, that Nawaz Sharif's life is in danger the moment he sets foot in the country.

Let me guess, you probs carry a stuffed tiger toy wherever you go?

Your convicted leader is hiding in my country, where’s the bravery? Why is Nawaz afraid to face his own people? Aren’t you fed up of waiting for your ganja messiah to come back?

 

[Bewal Express]

First let’s see PTI set up a ‘damage to public property repair fund’. Then you all should contribute towards it because of your cheerleading towards the damage. Once you have contributed

We will have a debate

No,let's actually go back to 1st principles where you and your friends can do time for killing innocent people, taking part in a millitary coup, trying to kill IK, killing Arshad Sharif, Zille Shah, Dr Rizwan, Maqsood Ch. Then you can explain why an election that should have taken place on April 14th has been stopped and why and subverted the constitution? Once you have done that compensate PKs for not having reps for the last month in Punjab and KP,then come back to me. Otherwise, you will have to pretend not to know anything about Pk politics again to avoid getting humiliated

 

[Rana]

No,let's actually go back to 1st principles where you and your friends can do time for killing innocent people, taking part in a millitary coup, trying to kill IK, killing Arshad Sharif, Zille Shah, Dr Rizwan, Maqsood Ch. Then you can explain why an election that should have taken place on April 14th has been stopped and why and subverted the constitution? Once you have done that compensate PKs for not having reps for the last month in Punjab and KP,then come back to me. Otherwise, you will have to pretend not to know anything about Pk politics again to avoid getting humiliated

Stop Ai tai Shai bai’ing the problem at hand. Pay up for the damages caused by your supporters to public property! Until you guys don’t settle this, don’t cry about ‘damages sustained by the Shareef’s in Pakistan’

 

[MenInG]

Stop Ai tai Shai bai’ing the problem at hand. Pay up for the damages caused by your supporters to public property! Until you guys don’t settle this, don’t cry about ‘damages sustained by the Shareef’s in Pakistan’

Clearly you have no idea about what is happening in Pakistan.

Sharifs have made Pakistan bankrupt.

A few buildings burnt etc is nothing.

Maybe you being a kind person at heart should pray for the souls of the people who have been killed by the police?

 

[Bewal Express]

Stop Ai tai Shai bai’ing the problem at hand. Pay up for the damages caused by your supporters to public property! Until you guys don’t settle this, don’t cry about ‘damages sustained by the Shareef’s in Pakistan’

So what you are saying is that any criminality from your friends which includes murder, attempted murder, stopping the election and subverting the constitution should be ignored. As I said stick to making Asif Ali captain because your posts are embarrassing.

 

[Bewal Express]

Clearly you have no idea about what is happening in Pakistan.

Sharifs have made Pakistan bankrupt.

A few buildings burnt etc is nothing.

Maybe you being a kind person at heart should pray for the souls of the people who have been killed by the police?

Rana Sahib has ignored all my questions. He has to go back to pretending that he doesn't know again

 

[Rana]

Rana Sahib has ignored all my questions. He has to go back to pretending that he doesn't know again

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] has worked out I actually have no clue about Pakistani politics yet you for some deranged reason are adamant that maybe I am Rana Sanaullah

 

[MenInG]

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] has worked out I actually have no clue about Pakistani politics yet you for some deranged reason are adamant that maybe I am Rana Sanaullah

Haha!!!!

Think for fun change your Avatar

 

[Rana]

Haha!!!!

Think for fun change your Avatar

Tbf Negan is Rana Sanaullah for Imran Khan who is Rick

 

[Bewal Express]

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] has worked out I actually have no clue about Pakistani politics yet you for some deranged reason are adamant that maybe I am Rana Sanaullah

But you insist on posting on a serious forum made up of intelligent people. Answer the questions I have posed to you. There are many people that are reading these posts around the world, so you dont want to run and embarrass yourself do you

 

[Rana]

But you insist on posting on a serious forum made up of intelligent people. Answer the questions I have posed to you. There are many people that are reading these posts around the world, so you dont want to run and embarrass yourself do you

Sarr na kha mera praa

Don’t pay for the damages incurred if you don’t want to. We will recover them in our way, as you know very well we can

 

[Bewal Express]

Sarr na kha mera praa

Don’t pay for the damages incurred if you don’t want to. We will recover them in our way, as you know very well we can

In a democracy election are the corner stone and not only have people been killed, their reps have been jailed, and elections denied. In those circumstances what should the people do? Should they do nothing? It pains me to see any damage to PK but when a mafia is destroying PK for personal gain,people have no either avenue for their anger. If fair elections are held and then people take the law into their own hands, then hang them. So can you explain who and why has stopped the elections?

 

[Rana]

In a democracy election are the corner stone and not only have people been killed, their reps have been jailed, and elections denied. In those circumstances what should the people do? Should they do nothing? It pains me to see any damage to PK but when a mafia is destroying PK for personal gain,people have no either avenue for their anger. If fair elections are held and then people take the law into their own hands, then hang them. So can you explain who and why has stopped the elections?

People should go and put their necks on the line too if that’s the case. Not act brave sitting in their living rooms abroad

 

[Bewal Express]

People should go and put their necks on the line too if that’s the case. Not act brave sitting in their living rooms abroad

They did. We are part of the PTI family. Unlike your bhagora, our people have given their lives for PK. IK has led from the front, not hidden away in a flat

 

[Rana]

They did. We are part of the PTI family. Unlike your bhagora, our people have given their lives for PK. IK has led from the front, not hidden away in a flat

Is that so? Apparently he was hiding in his bedroom the first time Rana came knocking?

 

[Bewal Express]

Is that so? Apparently he was hiding in his bedroom the first time Rana came knocking?

Was he really? He didn't flinch at the sight of commandos attacking him but Rana scared him.

So once again you are avoiding the question. Who stopped the elections? What should the people do when their rights are taken away? Or you going to keep avoiding the question and keep embarrassing yourself

 

[Technics 1210]

So what you are saying is that any criminality from your friends which includes murder, attempted murder, stopping the election and subverting the constitution should be ignored. As I said stick to making Asif Ali captain because your posts are embarrassing.

Bingo.

The haters do not care about how Shareef and Zaradi families have burned Pakistan to the ground, rinsed Pakistan of every last penny, murdered people etc, but a few buildings on fire in response to an illegal arrest of the biggest threat to Pakistan corruption dynasties, and the haters roll up their sleeves cos the news is on their PTI feed.

 

[Sher Khan]

Clearly you have no idea about what is happening in Pakistan.

Sharifs have made Pakistan bankrupt.

A few buildings burnt etc is nothing.

Maybe you being a kind person at heart should pray for the souls of the people who have been killed by the police?

Shehbaz Sharif's tenure as PM has been a joke so far. I agree that he has not delivered and has proven incompetent for the big job.

But how was Imran any different? His government kept borrowing and borrowing. They borrowed 52 billion US dollars in 3 years, ofcourse Pakistan is becoming bankrupt.

Think about this with a clear mind, are we only accusing the Sharif's of this situation because our hearts and minds want to believe that they are corrupt and have stolen all the taxpayer money?

 

[Major]

Which thread is this..unlike you I don't have the time to spend on pakpassion trawling through anti Imran threads..post the link here so I can read. Hopefully it won't be a blackzero thread from 2008.

yeh i dont have time to spoon feed you here, go google imran khan malik riaz dawn and you will find the article

 

[MenInG]

How much more damage will they do to Pakistan?

What is this fear of Imran?

 

[Sher Khan]

Their is only one solution and I hope the government takes it. Free and fair elections right now!!!

 

[MenInG]

How much more damage will they do to Pakistan?

What is this fear of Imran?

And this simpleton works for Shehbaz Sharif - guess makes sense.


Internet ban to continue until vandals are caught: Rana Sanaullah

Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah says the internet ban will continue until all the instigators and perpetrators who burnt down houses have been arrested.

Speaking to Geo News, the PML-N leader said he would have to seek the prime minister’s guidance over the issue if the matters involving Imran Khan extended beyond May 17.

“There are many people who used these services legally and they are the ones losing out so we have to keep that under surveillance,” Sanaullah added.

“The situation is that the people who have come out, their entire work is done on the internet, all their abuse, their planning, all of it is done on social media.”

 

[MenInG]

And this simpleton works for Shehbaz Sharif - guess makes sense.


Internet ban to continue until vandals are caught: Rana Sanaullah

Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah says the internet ban will continue until all the instigators and perpetrators who burnt down houses have been arrested.

Speaking to Geo News, the PML-N leader said he would have to seek the prime minister’s guidance over the issue if the matters involving Imran Khan extended beyond May 17.

“There are many people who used these services legally and they are the ones losing out so we have to keep that under surveillance,” Sanaullah added.

“The situation is that the people who have come out, their entire work is done on the internet, all their abuse, their planning, all of it is done on social media.”

Starting to feel sad for this mental imbecile - this is beyond his mental capabilities

==

A state-imposed social media blackout to quell massive protests around the arrest of Pakistan's former prime minister Imran Khan has instead fuelled momentum for him, analysts say.

Moments after Khan was detained by a swarm of paramilitary Rangers on Tuesday, the interior ministry restricted nationwide access to Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.

Mobile data coverage -- used by political activists to organise protests on messenger apps such as WhatsApp, but with far larger effects on the wider populace -- was also cut.

But Khan's supporters quickly found workarounds, leaving social media awash with calls for protest and shaky handheld clips of thousands of demonstrators clashing with police.

The move was a "crass miscalculation" by authorities, according to Shahzad Ahmad, director of digital rights organisation Bytes for All. "It's only going to work against them."

Leading his Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party in opposition, Khan remains staggeringly popular and has crafted a campaign accusing the parties and army of colluding to keep him out of power, lock him up and even assassinate him.

Blocking social media only fuels the PTI's argument, said digital rights activist Usama Khilji.

"It's adding to their popularity because it's being seen as a move to curtail basic rights of citizens."

On Thursday, the Supreme Court declared Khan's arrest invalid, but the political turmoil has continued, and the internet restrictions remain in place.

- Digital 'dinosaurs' -

Ahmad said the authorities who ordered the ban are "dinosaurs" who "do not have an idea how rapidly things are changing".

"They think in the mindset of absolute power," he said.

But internet and social media use has exploded in Pakistan in recent years, fuelled by the widespread availability of cheap smartphones.

Mobile broadband subscribers jumped from 56 million in 2018 to 116 million in 2022 -- around half of the country -- according to the telecom regulator.

Internet censorship has been common in recent decades, even under Khan's government.

But a young, tech-savvy citizenry has adapted quickly, using Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) to disguise their locations and skirt restrictions, Ahmad said.

Despite the ban, Twitter "was still very active in the country because people had their VPNs ready," he added.

The mobile data outage, however, cannot be circumvented in that way.

In Peshawar, PTI supporter Ikram Khan told AFP that party activists were expecting "a complete (internet) shutdown", so they hurriedly transferred mobile phone clips to computers equipped with wired internet connections and VPNs.

There was a delay in uploading the videos to Instagram and Twitter, and streaming service Facebook Live could not be used, but "we still did our job well", the 31-year-old told AFP.

"We know how to handle the situation."

The internet shutdown has triggered international condemnation.

Amnesty International Pakistan campaigner Rimmel Mohydin told AFP it was "a clear human rights violation".

It can "facilitate further violations of human rights, including impeding the documentation of unlawful use of force," she said.

'In their favour'
Such remarks give credence to PTI claims they are being silenced, according to analyst Hasan Askari.

"The international concern definitely goes in their favour," he said.

Khan came to power in 2018 marketing himself as a political outsider, riding a pioneering wave of social media enthusiasm to challenge the country's two main dynastic parties, who between them have ruled Pakistan for decades.

Last April, after having lost the key support of Pakistan's powerful military -- which has itself ruled the country directly for more than three decades -- he was ousted in a no-confidence vote.

The ensuing political chaos has exacerbated an economic downturn that has seen decades-high inflation, the rupee tumbling to a record low Thursday, and deadlocked bailout negotiations with the International Monetary Fund.

The latest internet outage has added to those woes, costing Pakistan as much as $53 million a day according to global internet monitor NetBlocks, with mobile data coverage powering economic transactions, including credit and debit card point-of-sale terminals.

A shaky coalition government now faces the prospect of an electorate galvanised by simultaneous political and economic crises ahead of elections due no later than October.

The blackout "is quite disproportionate" said Khilji. "It does show a panic where the state is sort of caught off guard and it seems like they didn't really plan this well.

"The biggest issue is that people are already frustrated with the economic situation and this just adds on top of that," he said.

"It's giving more of a reason for citizens to be unhappy with the current government."

AFP

 

[Kianig89]

SS who even a Janitor in a govt office has more worth as he knows his job unlike the baffoon SS

 

[the Great Khan]

yeh i dont have time to spoon feed you here, go google imran khan malik riaz dawn and you will find the article

Wah..that article is your only source alone? lol..critical thinking is clearly not a fortay.

 

[MenInG]

Thank God for CJ - someone is stepping up to help Pakistan.

==

The Pakistani rupee dramatically recovered 5%, or Rs15, to the pre-political crisis rate of Rs284 against the US dollar in the interbank market on Friday.

Yesterday, the currency had nosedived to an all-time low at Rs299 against the greenback. The rupee had slumped by around 4%, or Rs14 in the past two days in the wake of political turmoil following the arrest of former prime minister Imran Khan.

Talking to The Express Tribune, Taurus Securities Director Research Mustafa Mustansir said the improvement in the political situation in the country improved business sentiment in the interbank market.

The turnaround in the situation extended support to the rupee against the greenback.

 

[MenInG]

PTI Chairman and former premier Imran Khan on Saturday demanded an independent investigation into the vandalism and violence that broke out during the protests in the aftermath of his arrest by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) in the Al-Qadir Trust case on May 9, under the supervision of the Supreme Court.

The PTI chief also urged his supporters to come out of their homes and gather at a spot in their neighbourhood from 5:30 pm to 6:30 pm on Sunday (today) with placards inscribed with “Save Constitution, Save Country” and once again announced to kick off a series of public rallies from Muridke, Punjab from May 17 (Wednesday).

In in his first address to the nation from Lahore after his release from NAB’s custody, the former premier called for an investigation into the protests and vandalism that occurred following his arrest on May 9, asking Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial to lead the investigation and "personally" chair the panel.

“I want an independent and complete investigation into the burning of state buildings and firing at unarmed youth protesters. I want CJP Umar Ata Bandial to constitute a panel under him for this purpose.”

DAWN

 

[MenInG]

After the government moved to suspend internet services and block social media applications across Pakistan, the country not only lost Rs2.49 billion but also saw a plethora of anger from citizens who deemed it to be an attack on freedom of expression itself.

The shutdown, which came on the instructions of the interior ministry in the wake of violent protests sparked by the arrest of PTI Chairman Imran Khan, arrest, dealt a heavy blow to the country's economy and reputation, with rights bodies warning of long-term consequences.

The blackout, which lasted for several days, caused widespread disruption to businesses, e-commerce, and online education. The tech industry has also called for urgent action, citing the impact on growth and innovation.

This was not the first-time government had shut down the internet and mobile services in Pakistan. In the past, authorities have resorted to internet blockades as a tool to curb spread of mis-information or information they may deem to be against the state. However, more than a tactical response to instability, this has been considered to be an attack at the freedom of expression and a violation of human rights in a democratic state.

International bodies expressed concerns over the information lockdown in Pakistan, calling for restoration of internet services in the country and for the government to respect fundamental freedoms.

The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Turk said “freedom of expression, peaceful assembly and rule of law are key to resolving political conflicts”.

Amnesty international called the services shutdown a “human rights violation”. “The ban on the social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube also creates a permissive environment for other human rights violations under the darkness of the internet shutdown. The restrictions must be lifted immediately.” Rimmel Mohydin, regional campaigner at Amnesty International stated.

The shutdown made a significant dent in the cash-strapped economy of Pakistan with the business sector taking a major hit. The move has drawn widespread criticism from businesses, entrepreneurs, and tech industry experts, who have raised concerns over the economic fallout.

As business activities have been affected, the Federal Board of Revenue also lost about Rs2 billion in terms of revenue, but the Pakistan Software Export Association (PSEA) said that a day's business of the information technology sector is $12 million. Therefore, in three days, the PSEA said, the IT sector suffered a loss of Rs10 billion.

According to an official of a telecom company, the mobile broadband services constitute around 60% of their total revenues. Therefore, on a daily-basis, they earn approximately Rs820 million. Additionally, the government receives around 35% of the revenue.

This calculation is based on the fact that the telecommunication companies earned roughly Rs500 billion from cellular services in the previous year. However, this is just an estimate from one industry. The overall economic loss to the country is likely to be massive.

In addition, millions of daily wagers who earn through online modes of income including delivery riders, ride hailers and freelancers were deprived of livelihood due to the internet blackout.

Pakistan's reputation has also taken a hit, with the country being viewed as an unreliable place for investment and business operations. The government has faced criticism for its handling of the situation, with many arguing that it has damaged the country's standing in the global community.

The consequences of the internet shutdown are likely to be felt for some time to come, as Pakistan struggles to restore its image and rebuild its economy. The challenge for the government will be to strike a balance between security concerns and the need for free and open access to the internet.

 

[the Great Khan]

Yes but maashiyat theek kuro.

Hafiz is an idiot and a duffer. I mean anybody who is beholden to a dumb duffer criminal in London must have no courage. No wonder he doesn't want to take kashmir..

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan’s friends are increasingly concerned over the growing political instability in the country and have been conveying discreet messages seeking resolution of the political crisis through dialogue.

Diplomatic sources familiar with the development told The Express Tribune that China, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates (UAE) in particular are worried over the deteriorating political instability in Pakistan.

Chinese Foreign Minister Qin Gang when he undertook a maiden trip to Pakistan recently, he publicly expressed concerns over the current political situation and stressed the need for developing consensus to deal with the crisis.

Qin Gang was in Pakistan on May 5 and 6 on his first visit to Islamabad.

At a news conference with Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, the top Chinese diplomat expressed concern about Pakistan's increasing instability, he told Pakistan to overcome political differences to pave the way for economic progress.

"We sincerely hope the political forces in Pakistan will build consensus, uphold stability and more effectively address domestic and external challenges so it can focus on growing the economy," Qin had said.

 

[MenInG]

Source:

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2417829/unplugged-the-devastating-toll-of-internet-shutdown

 

[MenInG]

In comes the "trustworthy PDM" and this is what happens

 

[the Great Khan]

Hafiz sahib is both a general and an economist. The nation just needs him. That's it.

On a serious note the country will simply move along like this now. No hope no desires. Just obedience to the man in charge. Everyone who can will leave. Those who can't will Try to ensure their children leave. Others will shrug their shoulders and join the boss' org. The rest will suffer in silence. In zulm and oppression with small outlets like cricket or movies to soften the blow. Nothing will progress.. the roads will still look like a river when it rains. Sewage will be open. Plenty of poor to kick around and order about..

Nothing will change. In 20 years time another hero will rise..and they will call him a traitor. And the circle will start again..until one day someone you forgot was your real enemy will put a boot on your neck and say "ab bol ,Teri kya aukaat hay'...then they will cry but it will be too late..

 

[saeedhk]

Hafiz sahib is both a general and an economist. The nation just needs him. That's it.

On a serious note the country will simply move along like this now. No hope no desires. Just obedience to the man in charge. Everyone who can will leave. Those who can't will Try to ensure their children leave. Others will shrug their shoulders and join the boss' org. The rest will suffer in silence. In zulm and oppression with small outlets like cricket or movies to soften the blow. Nothing will progress.. the roads will still look like a river when it rains. Sewage will be open. Plenty of poor to kick around and order about..

Nothing will change. In 20 years time another hero will rise..and they will call him a traitor. And the circle will start again..until one day someone you forgot was your real enemy will put a boot on your neck and say "ab bol ,Teri kya aukaat hay'...then they will cry but it will be too late..

True. Pakistan will remain as how it is for hundreds of years.

 

[SalimBhai]

In comes the "trustworthy PDM" and this is what happens

I believe there are many posters here who were advocating to stop the remittance once PTI lost power. To tell you the truth remittance is a double edged sword. It’s one of the reasons people don’t come out on the streets too often. They get little money coking home from abroad to keep everyone happy

 

[MenInG]

They are destroying the country in the process of taking me out: Imran

PTI chief Imran Khan has said that those trying to knock him out were destroying the country.

In a press conference, he outlined the economic woes of the country. Imran said that people were selling their dollars and the government was spending all the taxpayers money in paying interests.

“Can’t they see that there is no roadmap? That Pakistan is drowning.”

 

[SalimBhai]

Truth be told. Under imran the economic situation was terrible also. He also had mo plan. Also corruption under him went even higher than the previous regime Not a fan of showbazz either

 

[Kianig89]

So $ from 158 to 306, fuel 180 to 270 interest from 12 to 21, just a few indicators to gauge 13 party PDM

 

[MenInG]

In an open letter published on the New York University website, a group of Pakistani scholars and academics from different institutions across the world have called for an immediate end to state violence in Pakistan.

The group, the Pakistan Academics' Collective, identifies itself as a diverse group of scholars affiliated with institutions like Oxford University, Harvard University, London School of Economics, University of Toronto, New York University, Leeds University, New School for Social Research, Franklin and Marshall College, Lahore University of Management Sciences, Institute of Business Administration, Karachi and others.

The open letter, published on Tuesday and calling for others to sign the online petition, condemns various actions by the current Pakistani government, including the use of violence against protesters, curbs on media, restrictions on freedom of assembly and speech, and arbitrary arrests of opposition party leaders.

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The letter highlights the conditions that have deteriorated following the removal of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Prime Minister Imran Khan’s government in April 2022. Since then, the ruling establishment has been accused of exercising a reign of terror in an attempt to maintain power and curb public influence over the nation's future.

The authors argue that the current government, which they claim is operated by the military establishment, refuses to adhere to the Constitutional mandate and Supreme Court orders to hold elections. “The regime enjoys no popular mandate to rule and is depriving people of their right to vote, while seeking to eliminate the largest opposition party from the political arena.”

The letter further states that citizens are facing a severe violation of their civil liberties in Pakistan, including the military's “intention to establish military courts for trying civilians who protest and register their political dissent in the public domain, bypassing due process of law”.

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Furthermore, the government's disregard for judicial orders, coupled with difficult living conditions marked by rising unemployment, a depreciating currency, and escalating inflation, has contributed to a tense social and political climate, states the letter.

The letter culminates in a call to action, demanding the restoration of full civil rights, release of all political prisoners, an end to the usage of military courts for trial of civilians, and accountability for officials involved in violations and abuses. It also urges for respect towards the democratic process, cessation of military interference in politics, and an immediate commencement of elections.

It was unclear how many scholars or academics have so far signed the petition.