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How will Pakistan batsman cope with Jofra Archer?

While Babar's performance against most of the top Bowlers has been great but he has an awful record against Hazelwood.

Back to topic, If Archer plays all 3 tests and is fully fit, then it's going to be challenging for our batsmen, they will find it very hard, not to forget what Duanne Olivier did against Pakistan last time on SA tour. Pak batsmen have a history of struggling against pacers who have good control with short pitch bowling and Archer is one of those. What will certainly be an advantage to Pakistan is that Archer has got some fitness/injury issues and if he plays all Tests against WI, then he might not be that effective as seen in NZ.

For me, Broad & Anderson are still a bigger threat than Archer

Agreed broad and anderson are stil bigger threats
 
Archer has not even played 10 tests till now but his average has dipped to 27 already with nothing of noteworthy away from home. He has a long way to go.

If Pakistan batsmen struggle against raw pace and bouncers like they did against Duanne Olivier in South Africa, then it will be the fault of Pakistan's batsmen for the losses otherwise they should do well against Archer. Jofra Archer is a kind of bowler who will have its moment but most of the time, he will look like an inferior version of Shoaib Akhtar.

He's playing at home. Of course it's going to be thier fault its not going to be my fault is it.difference between Olivier and archer is that archer can move the ball azwell thiers Olivier is more based around bounce
 
Is woakes in the squad

They haven't announced it but he was part of the 40 man practice squad and he has to play because he is a very good bowling all rounder especially in England. I do think Root underuses his bowling sometimes but he should play.
 
He's playing at home. Of course it's going to be thier fault its not going to be my fault is it.difference between Olivier and archer is that archer can move the ball azwell thiers Olivier is more based around bounce

Well, Archer also has more pace than Olivier but he doesn't have the control. He has pace and will look to trouble the batsmen first up with his short balls stuffs. If Pakistan batsmen can negotiate the early spells, they can put pressure on him, he doesn't have control and once put into pressure will end up leaking up a lot of runs.
 
Archer is the best in the world and Pakistani batsmen, apart from Babar, do not have the quality to cope with him.

He will be the single biggest reason why Pakistan will lose the series.
 
I think Pakistan will definitely be impacted by Archer - who will take 4-5 wickets per match - but not devastated by him.

They will not be caught by surprise like Australia were or Pakistan themselves were with Duanne Olivier. Archer will have to develop new things to stay on top of Pakistan apart from short pitch bowling.

My biggest fear is Pakistan's sudden collapses - which can be triggered by anyone.
 
Agreed broad and anderson are stil bigger threats

Depends on the wickets. They are getting a lot of sun, which means they will be dry. No rising moist air means not much swing. Though Anderson reverses the old ball too.

Broad does not swing it and is more of an accurate bowler of cutters and lifters, aiming at the top of off.

Whereas 95 mph will always be effective regardless of conditions.
 
Depends on the wickets. They are getting a lot of sun, which means they will be dry. No rising moist air means not much swing. Though Anderson reverses the old ball too.

Broad does not swing it and is more of an accurate bowler of cutters and lifters, aiming at the top of off.

Whereas 95 mph will always be effective regardless of conditions.

We havent had much summer it's been off and on they experienced they know how to get wickets that's what's good.

Archer will bowl similar pace to naseem and shaheen will be just behind
 
Archer is the best in the world and Pakistani batsmen, apart from Babar, do not have the quality to cope with him.

He will be the single biggest reason why Pakistan will lose the series.

Just to clarify, if he isn't effective or performs poorly, will the 3 Tests against West Indies be used as an excuse due to how FAST he is and how his body takes months to recover?
 
Just to clarify, if he isn't effective or performs poorly, will the 3 Tests against West Indies be used as an excuse due to how FAST he is and how his body takes months to recover?

That's no excuse tbh he shouldn't be over bowled they literally have 5 bowlers
 
I have 3 concerns for the England series, in the following order:

1. Covid19
2. Jofra Archer
3. James Anderson
 
I have 3 concerns for the England series, in the following order:

1. Covid19
2. Jofra Archer
3. James Anderson

James Anderson is never been problem for Pakistan in recent times, main headache will be Archer and woakes
 
Is woakes in the squad I fought he wasnt

He is there. Seems to have fallen behind WaSam ACurran in the pecking order though.

I expect the attack to be Broad, Anderson, Archer/Wood, Curran, Stokes, Leach.
 
In the end, I can tell you this series will be less about playing cricket passionately and giving your 100% but more about maintaining safety and social distancing.

Don't see both the things happening simultaneously. The series is just an incentive to somehow start the game of cricket. Don't be harsh on players if they fail here.
 
For the first test:

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Pope
Stokes (capt)
Moeen
Foakes(w)
Curran
Archer / Wood
Broad
Anderson / Leach if it’s a spin deck
 
For the first test:

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Pope
Stokes (capt)
Moeen
Foakes(w)
Curran
Archer / Wood
Broad
Anderson / Leach if it’s a spin deck

Why is Root not available again? I read a few things but can’t remember the reason.
 
He is there. Seems to have fallen behind WaSam ACurran in the pecking order though.

I expect the attack to be Broad, Anderson, Archer/Wood, Curran, Stokes, Leach.

Tbh I rather play against curran than than woakes is a proper swing bowler
 
For the first test:

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Pope
Stokes (capt)
Moeen
Foakes(w)
Curran
Archer / Wood
Broad
Anderson / Leach if it’s a spin deck

The batting looks really week without root but the bowling is looking strong
 
Archer is the best in the world and Pakistani batsmen, apart from Babar, do not have the quality to cope with him.

He will be the single biggest reason why Pakistan will lose the series.

How is Archer the best in the world?:)) I can name 3 bowlers that will instill more fear into batting lineups than Jofra ever will. Cummins, Bumrah and Rabada.

You're the biggest hypocrite. When people hype up Naseem Shah, you call them out, but here you are saying a bowler who has played 7 tests (and averages 27.4 in those tests, all played in SENA conditions) is the best in the world.
 
The batting looks really week without root but the bowling is looking strong

It’s a good chance for Pope to step up. If Root continues as skipper I think he should be at #5 anyway.
 
How is Archer the best in the world?:)) I can name 3 bowlers that will instill more fear into batting lineups than Jofra ever will. Cummins, Bumrah and Rabada.

You're the biggest hypocrite. When people hype up Naseem Shah, you call them out, but here you are saying a bowler who has played 7 tests (and averages 27.4 in those tests, all played in SENA conditions) is the best in the world.

Lol archer best in the world by ....

Thatd what am saying Pakistani hate thier own team but big up other team players
 
How is Archer the best in the world?:)) I can name 3 bowlers that will instill more fear into batting lineups than Jofra ever will. Cummins, Bumrah and Rabada.

You're the biggest hypocrite. When people hype up Naseem Shah, you call them out, but here you are saying a bowler who has played 7 tests (and averages 27.4 in those tests, all played in SENA conditions) is the best in the world.

My issue with Archer is not just the overhype. Because he has showed brilliant promise and has made his debut during an exciting summer where he performed very well in the World Cup and Ashes. So he rightfully deserves credit.

However players have had far greater introductions to cricket and ended up fizzling out.

And a bigger point is how poorly he performed in New Zealand. That could be put down to inexperience etc but his fans like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] refuse to acknowledge it, say that he is already among the top bowlers in the world and it is completely down to being overbowled - even though the time between the last ashes test and first New Zealand test was more than 2 months! Surely that’s enough rest and cannot be used as an excuse?
 
My issue with Archer is not just the overhype. Because he has showed brilliant promise and has made his debut during an exciting summer where he performed very well in the World Cup and Ashes. So he rightfully deserves credit.

However players have had far greater introductions to cricket and ended up fizzling out.

And a bigger point is how poorly he performed in New Zealand. That could be put down to inexperience etc but his fans like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] refuse to acknowledge it, say that he is already among the top bowlers in the world and it is completely down to being overbowled - even though the time between the last ashes test and first New Zealand test was more than 2 months! Surely that’s enough rest and cannot be used as an excuse?

He has put in some RFM displays as well as RF. Could be a form / timing problem. There are “mood” bowlers, they can breath fire one day and be subdued the next.
 
Nah no chance root will bat at 5 big onus on stokes being the senior

I’d love to see Pope, Root and Stokes at four, five, six.

Root averages 70 at five, though he was coming in behind the big gun Pietersen then.
 
He has put in some RFM displays as well as RF. Could be a form / timing problem. There are “mood” bowlers, they can breath fire one day and be subdued the next.

Which is fair enough.

But based on that, he cannot yet (after 7 Tests) be put in the same category as proven performers like Cummins and Rabada who are well on the way to becoming ATGs despite a young age.

He could end up having a career like Philander who has a great record but is only really effective in certain conditions. Or some like Akhtar who is lethal when on form but fitness and rhythm mean he doesn’t quite play enough to make a significant impact. Or like Mustafizur / Mendis who start with a bang but fade quickly.
 
My issue with Archer is not just the overhype. Because he has showed brilliant promise and has made his debut during an exciting summer where he performed very well in the World Cup and Ashes. So he rightfully deserves credit.

However players have had far greater introductions to cricket and ended up fizzling out.

And a bigger point is how poorly he performed in New Zealand. That could be put down to inexperience etc but his fans like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] refuse to acknowledge it, say that he is already among the top bowlers in the world and it is completely down to being overbowled - even though the time between the last ashes test and first New Zealand test was more than 2 months! Surely that’s enough rest and cannot be used as an excuse?

If he was Pakistani, he would be labelled as an overrated one trick pony who is only useful in helpful conditions.
 
How is Archer the best in the world?:)) I can name 3 bowlers that will instill more fear into batting lineups than Jofra ever will. Cummins, Bumrah and Rabada.

You're the biggest hypocrite. When people hype up Naseem Shah, you call them out, but here you are saying a bowler who has played 7 tests (and averages 27.4 in those tests, all played in SENA conditions) is the best in the world.

Naseem Shah will never by anywhere near Archer.

Archer is better than Bumrah in all formats. Bumrah is excellent but a bit of a gimmick.

Cummins is inferior in ODIs and T20Is.

Rabada has fallen away a bit, but he’s close.
 
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Naseem Shah will never by anywhere near Archer.

Archer is better than Bumrah in all formats. Bumrah is excellent but a bit of a gimmick.

Cummins is inferior in ODIs and T20Is.

Rabada has fallen away a bit, but he’s close.

Just a suggestion never write a teenager off. Naseem at this point is no where close to Archer but Naseem has a lot of time on hand. Only time will tell he will succeed or not. I also would not want to hype Naseem as he is very very young to be judged, ideally you need 2 seasons to start forming a judgement.

On topic, more than Archer I fear Woakes. Woakes would always start the top order collapse whereby we would be 3 down for 20 something.
 
Just a suggestion never write a teenager off. Naseem at this point is no where close to Archer but Naseem has a lot of time on hand. Only time will tell he will succeed or not. I also would not want to hype Naseem as he is very very young to be judged, ideally you need 2 seasons to start forming a judgement.

On topic, more than Archer I fear Woakes. Woakes would always start the top order collapse whereby we would be 3 down for 20 something.

Naseem was 16 in 2016, which means he will be 20 this year if he isn’t already. He is overhyped because PCB have made him look younger than he is.

In truth, he is roughly as old as Shaheen but well below him in terms of development.

Shaheen has a better chance of catching up with Archer. He also has the height.
 
Naseem was 16 in 2016, which means he will be 20 this year if he isn’t already. He is overhyped because PCB have made him look younger than he is.

In truth, he is roughly as old as Shaheen but well below him in terms of development.

Shaheen has a better chance of catching up with Archer. He also has the height.

I suppose Archer was ahead of Naseem at the age of 20?
 
I suppose Archer was ahead of Naseem at the age of 20?

Players do not improve exponentially. If that was the case, there would be no mediocre 30 year old players.

Amir at 17 was three times the bowler Starc was at 17, but Starc at 30 is a vastly superior bowler than Amir at 28.

You should also look at raw ingredients and not age. Naseem is handicapped by his height and he will have to be far quicker and far more accurate than Archer to be equally successful.

Besides, some players reach their peak potential early and give the wrong impression at a young age that they are something special.

It is quite possible that Naseem will not improve from here on and this is the best that he can bowl.
 
Naseem Shah will never by anywhere near Archer.

Archer is better than Bumrah in all formats. Bumrah is excellent but a bit of a gimmick.

Cummins is inferior in ODIs and T20Is.

Rabada has fallen away a bit, but he’s close.

If Archer is so good, you have still not properly addressed his terrible performance in New Zealand. How much rest would have been suitable for that not to be used as an excuse?
 
If Archer is so good, you have still not properly addressed his terrible performance in New Zealand. How much rest would have been suitable for that not to be used as an excuse?

There is nothing to address. No player can perform in every series no matter how good he is.
 
Archer is an over hyped show pony. If it weren't for a mediocre Pakistan top order, this guy would be getting a schooling over the summer.

Up to Babar to provide some harsh lessons though.
 
This is Pakistan Cricket so every chance someone least likely will either score a big hundred or take a bucket load of wickets against us 😁
 
There is nothing to address. No player can perform in every series no matter how good he is.

Then why did you blame it on his workload in another thread? But once it was stated that he had more than 2 months rest you disappeared.

Now you’re saying he can’t perform in every series. It’s not like he’s played for ages and had one bad series. He’s only played 7 Tests and has had a terrible series.

And then in the other series / match against South Africa he took wickets but was expensive and gave no control. England lost the match comfortably despite being a much better team. Once he was out of the team they destroyed South Africa.

So basically we have a bowler who’s had literally a couple of decent matches (at home only) and you’ve already made him to be the best in the world. He’s flopped in New Zealand let alone seeing how he would perform in Australia or Asia.
 
Archer is overrated in tests. His pace declines from spell to spell throughout the series and he was exposed on a couple of flatties in Enzed. But considering that English pitches have offered more seam movement than anywhere else, he would be a considerable threat here.
 
Naseem Shah will never by anywhere near Archer.

Archer is better than Bumrah in all formats. Bumrah is excellent but a bit of a gimmick.

Cummins is inferior in ODIs and T20Is.

Rabada has fallen away a bit, but he’s close.

What about shaheen afridi ?
 
Players do not improve exponentially. If that was the case, there would be no mediocre 30 year old players.

Amir at 17 was three times the bowler Starc was at 17, but Starc at 30 is a vastly superior bowler than Amir at 28.

You should also look at raw ingredients and not age. Naseem is handicapped by his height and he will have to be far quicker and far more accurate than Archer to be equally successful.

Besides, some players reach their peak potential early and give the wrong impression at a young age that they are something special.

It is quite possible that Naseem will not improve from here on and this is the best that he can bowl.

Just answer the q — was Jofra at 19-20 a more potent bowler than Naseem is today?
 
Besides, some players reach their peak potential early and give the wrong impression at a young age that they are something special.

But not Jofra?

It is quite possible that Jofra will not improve from here on and this is the best that he can bowl.

This doesn’t apply?
 
It's going to be tough IMO.

Pak batters are known for struggling against tall pacers with extra steep bounce. Duanne Olivier comes to mind.
 
It's going to be tough IMO.

Pak batters are known for struggling against tall pacers with extra steep bounce. Duanne Olivier comes to mind.

They also struggle with woakes kind of type bowlers to but archer will be easier I think
 
Naseem Shah will never by anywhere near Archer.

Archer is better than Bumrah in all formats. Bumrah is excellent but a bit of a gimmick.

Cummins is inferior in ODIs and T20Is.

Rabada has fallen away a bit, but he’s close.

You completely missed the point of my post. I never said Naseem will be better than Archer, or that Archer will be better than Naseem. Rather, I am pointing out your hypocrisy on the matter. Both are unproven entities with a handful of games under their belt, yet you're willing to completely dismiss one, and call the other the best in the world.

Saying Archer being better than Bumrah in all formats has to be a joke, I don't think you're that deluded.

Yes, in the 14 ODIs he's played, Archer has a better record than Rabada and Cummins. But again, comparing a player who has played 14 ODIs, all at home, to players who have played 65+ ODIs, all over the world, is futile.
 
You completely missed the point of my post. I never said Naseem will be better than Archer, or that Archer will be better than Naseem. Rather, I am pointing out your hypocrisy on the matter. Both are unproven entities with a handful of games under their belt, yet you're willing to completely dismiss one, and call the other the best in the world.

Saying Archer being better than Bumrah in all formats has to be a joke, I don't think you're that deluded.

Yes, in the 14 ODIs he's played, Archer has a better record than Rabada and Cummins. But again, comparing a player who has played 14 ODIs, all at home, to players who have played 65+ ODIs, all over the world, is futile.

I have seen enough of Archer to conclude that he is the best fast bowler in the world across formats.

Along with Bumrah, he is the only pacer at the moment who is in the top 3 in all three formats. I prefer him to Bumrah because of his effortless action.

Bumrah might not be able to sustain this level because of his gimmicky action.

I didn’t miss your point; I just didn’t agree with it.

You can call me a hypocrite if you wish. It is not my problem.
 
Then why did you blame it on his workload in another thread? But once it was stated that he had more than 2 months rest you disappeared.

So what formula did you use? How much rest means that you are not fatigued and do not have much of a workload?

You seem to have it all figured out so can you share your findings?

For example, you can say that if you have rested for 14 days you can be fatigued, but if you have rested for 15 days you are now making excuses.

You seem to have worked out the perfect formula for determining how long it takes for the human body to recover. This could be groundbreaking for so many sports teams around the world.

Now you’re saying he can’t perform in every series. It’s not like he’s played for ages and had one bad series. He’s only played 7 Tests and has had a terrible series.

It appears that you have worked out the perfect formula again. Please do share this with sports teams around the world because it will be most helpful.

So since you are not allowed to have a bad series if you have only played 7 Tests, how many Tests do you have to play before you can have a bad series?

8, 9, 10, 20, 50?

And then in the other series / match against South Africa he took wickets but was expensive and gave no control. England lost the match comfortably despite being a much better team. Once he was out of the team they destroyed South Africa.

So basically we have a bowler who’s had literally a couple of decent matches (at home only) and you’ve already made him to be the best in the world. He’s flopped in New Zealand let alone seeing how he would perform in Australia or Asia.

A couple of decent matches? He took 20 wickets at the World Cup, bowled the World Cup winning defining over, bowled the most dot balls and had the second best economy rate after Bumrah.

He was also England’s best bowler by some distance in the Ashes, and second only to Cummins overall.
 
So what formula did you use? How much rest means that you are not fatigued and do not have much of a workload?

You seem to have it all figured out so can you share your findings?

For example, you can say that if you have rested for 14 days you can be fatigued, but if you have rested for 15 days you are now making excuses.

You seem to have worked out the perfect formula for determining how long it takes for the human body to recover. This could be groundbreaking for so many sports teams around the world.



It appears that you have worked out the perfect formula again. Please do share this with sports teams around the world because it will be most helpful.

So since you are not allowed to have a bad series if you have only played 7 Tests, how many Tests do you have to play before you can have a bad series?

8, 9, 10, 20, 50?



A couple of decent matches? He took 20 wickets at the World Cup, bowled the World Cup winning defining over, bowled the most dot balls and had the second best economy rate after Bumrah.

He was also England’s best bowler by some distance in the Ashes, and second only to Cummins overall.

There isn’t a winning formulae not is there a requirement to go to such extremes.

All it takes is a bit of common sense, which you seem to be lacking on this issue.

Remember, I wasn’t the one who bought up period of rest. When his performance in New Zealand was stated, you and other posters used the excuse that this was due to his extensive workload.

I was willing to accept this as a reason but checked and saw that he had a 9+ week rest after the ashes. Now, if you’re asking me what the magic number is - ofcourse no one knows and ofcourse it varies by player and age etc. However, as mentioned - you can use a common sense approach. In the history of cricket, has there been any player who needed 2+ months rest to reach optimal performance? Ofcourse not, that’s ridiculous. Now whether the magic number is 1.5 months or 1 month is irrelevant. The point is that more than 2 months is so obviously enough time that it is frankly ridiculous to use that as an excuse.


As to point #2 - it’s not that you’re not ‘allowed’ to have a bad series if you’ve only played 7 matches. It’s the logic that if there is a smaller sample size - it is not possible to draw conclusions from it and state something is an anomaly. This is from both a statistical perspective and a common sense one.

If a player has played such few games - how can you say the poor ones were an anomaly but the good ones reflected his true quality? Again I don’t know the magic number where the sample size is enough but any person with an iota of logic will tell you that single digit number of games is not it.


He was undoubtedly brilliant in the World Cup, and likewise in the Ashes. He may well go on to become an ATG.

However one ODI tournament and one test series is just not enough to state he is the best in the world immediately. Especially when he’s followed it up with some pretty poor performances where he looked toothless and lacked control.
 
I have seen enough of Archer to conclude that he is the best fast bowler in the world across formats.

Along with Bumrah, he is the only pacer at the moment who is in the top 3 in all three formats. I prefer him to Bumrah because of his effortless action.

Bumrah might not be able to sustain this level because of his gimmicky action.

I didn’t miss your point; I just didn’t agree with it.

You can call me a hypocrite if you wish. It is not my problem.

Yes, he is in the top 3 T20I bowlers after playing a grand total of 1 game. :))

You are a hypocrite, there's no doubt about it. Every poster that's been here for more than a month can see it.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
Yes, he is in the top 3 T20I bowlers after playing a grand total of 1 game. :))

You are a hypocrite, there's no doubt about it. Every poster that's been here for more than a month can see it.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Did you just point out that Jofra has only played 1 T20 game so cant be the among the top?

According to [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] logic - ‘Oh it appears you have worked out the perfect formula for how many T20s games it takes to be considered the best.

Please do share this information with sports teams around the world. So how many T20 games does it take to be considered the best? 5, 10, 20, 50?’
 
Lol [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and his love for gora team, this archer guy is good but not that good, and even if he has good series vs our Azar Ali's it's no big deal, he is not even top 3 across all formats right now in world let alone no. 1, Cummins, Bumrah, Rabada are all easily ahead of him and all have much better sample size, he is at best at Shaheen afridi level and I think Shaheen has better ceiling than Jofra, anyway we shall see how there career unfolds but for now Mamoon is hyping him way above the mark he deserve. And I think babar if gets going can even give him a proper phainty, only worry is after this long covid delay is yet to be seen whether he still has that insane form, he was having some run.
 
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Did you just point out that Jofra has only played 1 T20 game so cant be the among the top?

According to [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] logic - ‘Oh it appears you have worked out the perfect formula for how many T20s games it takes to be considered the best.

Please do share this information with sports teams around the world. So how many T20 games does it take to be considered the best? 5, 10, 20, 50?’

May be 95 games can be a bench mark .... guy has a stats of 121 wickets 22.47/7.80 after 95 games at domestic/franchise level T20s - not that impressive to be honest.
 
I don't think Archer bowled the super over that well. No doubt,he was the lead bowler for England who went on to win the World Cup but if you potray it as a performance that won England a World Cup, I don't think so. Their standout performer was Ben Stokes.

If you want to highlight a legendary bowling performance that won his country a World Cup then its Mitchell Starc for Australia in 2015.

Jofra was very poor in New Zealand test series and as a LOI bowler, I don't think he is as good as Starc or Bumrah.

I am afraid if he can even overtake Mitchell Starc who gets mocked a lot for his test bowling.
 
I don't think Archer bowled the super over that well. No doubt,he was the lead bowler for England who went on to win the World Cup but if you potray it as a performance that won England a World Cup, I don't think so. Their standout performer was Ben Stokes.

If you want to highlight a legendary bowling performance that won his country a World Cup then its Mitchell Starc for Australia in 2015.

Jofra was very poor in New Zealand test series and as a LOI bowler, I don't think he is as good as Starc or Bumrah.

I am afraid if he can even overtake Mitchell Starc who gets mocked a lot for his test bowling.

Exactly. People talk about him as some death bowling god of thunder. Super over bowling was decent enough and even quite good but not exactly legendary. These same posters would be making fun of that super over if New Zealand had more boundaries during their innings, independent of that over.
 
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Younis says Archer 'a major threat' in England-Pakistan clashes

Pakistan batting coach and former cricketing great Younis Khan singled out fast-rising paceman Jofra Archer as a "major threat" in his team's forthcoming matches against England.

The Pakistan squad left on Sunday for England, where they will play three Tests and as many Twenty20 internationals, starting in the first week of August.

Younis said 25-year-old Archer has made a reputation for himself since qualifying to play for England and going on to play a key role in last year's Ashes and triumphant World Cup campaign.

"He (Archer) is a real match winner and a threat," Younis told AFP before the team's departure.

"Archer has strong nerves which he proved while bowling a crucial super over in the World Cup final," said Younis of England's nail-biting win over New Zealand at Lord's last year.

"He has bite in his bowling and his high arm action is very good and gives him nip in his bowling," he added.

But Younis -- himself playing a key role in Pakistan's 2-2 series draw in England in 2016 with a double hundred in the last Test at The Oval -- said Barbados-born Archer can be countered.

"There is hype around him so that can be an added pressure on him. I have told the batsmen to play close to the body and play on the back foot because his in-swinger can be very dangerous."

Younis remembered playing Archer in Pakistan's practice game against Sussex in 2016.

"I remember playing him in the side game," said Younis of Archer's debut first-class match. "He got five wickets in the match but was not on top of his bowling at the time like he is now."

Pakistan's highest Test run scorer with 10,099, Younis said Pakistan should also be cautious of England's most experienced bowlers -- James Anderson and Stuart Broad.

"Anderson and Broad have a wealth of experience. They are always a great pair. Whenever England have won they have the major share, but in August the weather will be dry and not very overcast so they can be handled properly."

Pakistan need to score 300-350 in the first innings, in order to challenge England in bowling, the coach said.

The squad has a new pace battery with lanky Shaheen Shah Afridi as spearhead supported by 17-year-old Naseem Shah and Mohammad Abbas, who also played a key role on 2018 tour.

"You face challenges in England as your technique as well as nerves are put to test. I am sure our team will be up to that task," said Younis.

https://supersport.com/cricket/engl...her_a_major_threat_in_EnglandPakistan_clashes
 
The Pakistan cricket team have left for their tour of England on Sunday. 20 players and 11 support staff were the ones that left Pakistan with several other players missing out due to positive coronavirus tests. Six out of the 10 coronavirus-infected cricketers returned negative when they were tested the second time and they will be given a chance to play the series if their third test comes negative. The squad will land in Manchester and will be transferred to Worcestershire where they will undergo a 14-day quarantine period and will have to undertake England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) organised testing.

Before the start of the series, Pakistan batting coach and former cricketer Younis Khan has heaped praise on fast-rising pacer Jofra Archer. Younis has called Archer a “major threat” before his team starts their preparations for the forthcoming series against England.

“He (Archer) is a real match-winner and a threat,” Younis told AFP.

“Archer has strong nerves which he proved while bowling a crucial super over in the World Cup final.”

“He has bite in his bowling and his high arm action is very good and gives him nip in his bowling. There is hype around him so that can be an added pressure on him. I have told the batsmen to play close to the body and play on the back foot because his in-swinger can be very dangerous.”

Younis then remembered the time when he faced Archer while playing for Pakistan in a practice game against Sussex in 2016.

“I remember playing him in the side game. He got five wickets in the match but was not on top of his bowling at the time like he is now,” Younis added.

The side will move to Derbyshire on July 13 to prepare for their three-test and three T20 international series against the home side in August-September.

The players that left on Sunday are Azhar Ali (captain), Babar Azam (vice-captain), Abid Ali, Asad Shafiq, Faheem Ashraf, Fawad Alam, Iftikhar Ahmad, Imad Wasim, Imam-ul-Haq, Khushdil Shah, Mohammad Abbas, Musa Khan, Naseem Shah, Rohail Nazir, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shan Masood, Sohail Khan, Usman Shinwari, and Yasir Shah. Zafar Gohar, the left-arm spinner who played an ODI in 2015, will join the side from England and will only be involved in pre-match preparations.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...fast-bowler/story-6PHVTBY1RNC6LgtH1Sk0uN.html
 
Look forward to seeing Hafeez and Malik hop around the crease like 16-year old school boys
 
He apparently received some treatment for sore feet today after bowling a mammoth 12 overs in the day.

ECB need to be careful with the best bowler in the world. It hasn't been that long since he won England the World Cup and then bowled superbly in the Ashes. A bowler of his pace and skill needs considerable rest.
 
Shoaib Akhtar Asks Younis Khan to Stop Giving Weak Statements

Former fast bowler, Shoaib Akhtar, has said that batting coach, Younis Khan, shouldn’t be giving out statements as he did on Jofra Archer. The Rawalpindi Express said that there’s no need to fear the rising England fast bowler, Jofra Archer.

"Younis Khan made a statement that we will have to be wary of Jofra Archer. He [Archer] is very intimidating and hits you [while bowling]. Younis Khan gives statements. He is a good man though. There is no need to fear Jofra Archer. Younis Khan said that they will have to play a bit defensively. I don’t know if he has said this or not. He [Younis] should not be giving these statements."

The 44-year-old said that Younis should instead transfer his own attitude and aggression into the young players. The team will only benefit from the high-profile coaching setup if they learn courage from the greats.

"He should be transferring his own attitude to the youngsters. Those youngsters should have the same attitude, strike rate and averages as him and only then do we benefit from having him in the coaching setup. Younis Khan has to transfer his knowledge and experience to the youngsters. I want this from Younis Khan rather than statements. His courage needs to be transferred to the youngsters. I am sure he will be able to do it."

This is Younis’ first stint as a batting coach and it remains to be seen how the batsmen learn from one of the greatest cricketers to represent Pakistan. The Men in Green will play three Tests and as many T20Is in August-September against England.

https://propakistani.pk/2020/07/01/shoaib-akhtar-asks-younis-khan-to-stop-giving-weak-statements/
 
Archer getting schooled here by his ex-mates. Shame, our expired batsmen barring Babar will make him look like the next coming of Malcolm Marshall again.

Good to see this over hyped show pony being put in his place though by the Windies.
 
Archer has been pretty damn disappointing so far. I sincerely hope I am wrong about him being the threat that he is.
 
Yes he scored a brilliant 70 odd runs in safrica and smacked steyn. But that's his only good innings.

He scored a 100 on a very flat pitch where even yasir shah got a ton.

Everyone is under the impression that babar will thrash Archer. You can say it will be an even contest, but can't say babar will destroy and expose Archer like many posters are saying

His only good innings? He does have 5 centuries you know. And if it was so easy to score a century in Australia then so many of our so called legends would have better records in Australia.

No need to downplay the fact that he's one of the finest batsmen in the world. You're insulting our intelligence. You can make your point without resorting to that.
 
Archer getting schooled here by his ex-mates. Shame, our expired batsmen barring Babar will make him look like the next coming of Malcolm Marshall again.

Good to see this over hyped show pony being put in his place though by the Windies.

He was supposed to be better than holding, ambrose and mcgrath combined
 
My concern is that he'll get better with each Test and will be in full flow by the time Pakistan is the opponent.

Looks a bit rusty at the moment.
 
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My concern is that he'll get better with each Test and will be in full flow by the time Pakistan is the opponent.

Looks a bit rusty at the moment.

Well lucky for us, by the end of the Ashes last year he needed more than 2 months rest and even then he performed poorly in New Zealand because according to some posters - that isn’t enough time to recover. So if he plays every match then he should be burnt out by the Pakistan series.
 
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