How will the delay in visit visas to India effect Pakistan's ICC World Cup 2023 preparations?

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All well and good but...

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Pakistan's World Cup 2023 preparations hit a roadblock as they have been reportedly forced to cancel their plans of holding a two-day camp in Dubai before flying to India for the world event due to visa issues. Pakistan is the only team among the nine who are yet to get their visas for the World Cup in India.

The report further added that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had originally planned to fly out to Dubai on Monday, stay there for a couple of days and then board the Hyderabad-bound flight from there late on Wednesday. Pakistan are slated to play two warm-up matches - vs New Zealand on September 29 and vs Australia on October 3 - at the Rajiv Gandhi Stadium in Hyderabad before the main rounds begin two days later.

The visa delays, however, have prompted them to cancel their stay in Dubai. They will now fly from Lahore to Dubai on Wednesday and then will fly to Hyderabad from there provided they get their visas on time. The PCB officials are hopeful that the Pakistan cricketers and support staff will get the required visa approvals from India before their departure for Hyderabad.

 
All well and good but...

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Pakistan's World Cup 2023 preparations hit a roadblock as they have been reportedly forced to cancel their plans of holding a two-day camp in Dubai before flying to India for the world event due to visa issues. Pakistan is the only team among the nine who are yet to get their visas for the World Cup in India.

The report further added that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had originally planned to fly out to Dubai on Monday, stay there for a couple of days and then board the Hyderabad-bound flight from there late on Wednesday. Pakistan are slated to play two warm-up matches - vs New Zealand on September 29 and vs Australia on October 3 - at the Rajiv Gandhi Stadium in Hyderabad before the main rounds begin two days later.

The visa delays, however, have prompted them to cancel their stay in Dubai. They will now fly from Lahore to Dubai on Wednesday and then will fly to Hyderabad from there provided they get their visas on time. The PCB officials are hopeful that the Pakistan cricketers and support staff will get the required visa approvals from India before their departure for Hyderabad.


This is utterly nonsense and doesn’t make any sense. Visas should have been granted the same day as applied and it’s the duty to ICC to ensure this. I feel this pretty disrespectful.

one of the reasons Pak should not have opted take part in this WC.
 
The world cup squad was announced yesterday. The visa issuance process, documentation takes couple of days. Why should pak boycott the world cup letting go their chance to win a world cup title? The % money out of ICC will go to PCB which can be used to improve infrastructure and promote Cricket in Pakistan.
 
Visas should not have been an issue as India has already confirmed that no problems will come in the visa process. I don't know what is this delay for. It is 23 Sep. today and still have no visa.
 
All well and good but...

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Pakistan's World Cup 2023 preparations hit a roadblock as they have been reportedly forced to cancel their plans of holding a two-day camp in Dubai before flying to India for the world event due to visa issues. Pakistan is the only team among the nine who are yet to get their visas for the World Cup in India.

The report further added that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had originally planned to fly out to Dubai on Monday, stay there for a couple of days and then board the Hyderabad-bound flight from there late on Wednesday. Pakistan are slated to play two warm-up matches - vs New Zealand on September 29 and vs Australia on October 3 - at the Rajiv Gandhi Stadium in Hyderabad before the main rounds begin two days later.

The visa delays, however, have prompted them to cancel their stay in Dubai. They will now fly from Lahore to Dubai on Wednesday and then will fly to Hyderabad from there provided they get their visas on time. The PCB officials are hopeful that the Pakistan cricketers and support staff will get the required visa approvals from India before their departure for Hyderabad.

They deserve this treatment. Should’ve boycotted World Cup for payback for Asia Cup. PCB has no shame and honor. Najam Sethi and Zaka Ashraf are a joke.
 
The world cup squad was announced yesterday. The visa issuance process, documentation takes couple of days. Why should pak boycott the world cup letting go their chance to win a world cup title? The % money out of ICC will go to PCB which can be used to improve infrastructure and promote Cricket in Pakistan.
Because the visas were not applied yesterday. In case you don’t know visas ect are also applied way before for all the potential players and reserves. Even if they don’t make the squad.

One of the Dutch guy couldn’t go to the early spin camp in India because his parents were from Pak. They didn’t approved his visa and they had to involve icc in this.
 
The world cup squad was announced yesterday. The visa issuance process, documentation takes couple of days. Why should pak boycott the world cup letting go their chance to win a world cup title? The % money out of ICC will go to PCB which can be used to improve infrastructure and promote Cricket in Pakistan.

They applied for visas over a week ago
 
Very unlikely.

This is not the local kabaddi tournament.

The world is watching

Visas would be a cinch.
 
As per a media report, a PCB official has said that:

"The passports were submitted as soon as the team returned home from the Asia Cup held in Sri Lanka. We have yet not received the visas. The ICC has been apprised of the issue as this has made the PCB to change its plan of having a two-day team bonding camp in Dubai,"
 
Ehsan Mani, the former chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board and the International Cricket Council said that if Pakistan’s visas were not granted swiftly, the ICC could claim damages from the Board of Control for Cricket in India.

“BCCI under its hosting agreement with ICC is obliged to provide visas in a timely manner for the team and officials, Pakistani journalists and fans,” Mani told Telegraph Sport.

“Between 2019-2021 I regularly raised this at the ICC Board meetings and ensured they were duly minuted.

“Assurance were unconditionally given by the then BCCI President Sourav Ganguly that BCCI would unconditionally fulfil its obligation.

“Should BCCI fail to deliver on its commitments it is up to the ICC to ensure BCCI meets its obligations. Failure to do so should mean cancellation of the World Cup and claiming damages from BCCI.”
 
Seems India Govt playing some game here to inconvenience Pakistan.
Yep,I think it's intentional🙂, they will obviously provide the visas, but simply dragging the issue to unsettle an already unsettled Pak team. This is some light level dirty politics, unfortunately PCB or Pak govt can do nothing here except complaining to ICC or directly communicating with the top brass of Indian govt.
 
Yep,I think it's intentional🙂, they will obviously provide the visas, but simply dragging the issue to unsettle an already unsettled Pak team. This is some light level dirty politics, unfortunately PCB or Pak govt can do nothing here except complaining to ICC or directly communicating with the top brass of Indian govt.

This isn't about cricket alone.
 
They will get Visa on Wednesday and India - Pakistan match is on 14 October .
 
they may miss warm up game and it will not give them opportunity to read wicket conditions as these Pakistani players has never played in India before
 
Game playing from the Indians.

A few people pocketed some paisa from the Asia Cup but we lost huge respect for the nation by having so many games in Sri Lanka.

The consequences of the Asia Cup will follow us to the CT2025.
 
“Pakistan are the only one - of nine sides traveling to India for the World Cup - still awaiting visas.”

Who would have thought!?
 
Like I said we might not get visas or if we do it'll be so we don't get practice matches.
 
“Pakistan are the only one - of nine sides traveling to India for the World Cup - still awaiting visas.”

Who would have thought!?

Doesn't this happen all the time to Pakistani citizens?

ICC/BCCI should intervene if Pakistani team doesn't get visa before their expected travel date.
 
Doesn't this happen all the time to Pakistani citizens?

ICC/BCCI should intervene if Pakistani team doesn't get visa before their expected travel date.

If you want to host a World Cup, make some provisions for your guests. Basic tenets of hospitality.
 
It's just host government trying to disgrace Pakistan as much as possible, playing bully as they have the financial might and the cup is held in their country so they feel they can do what ever they like. Visa will be sorted just before travel day. They already made Pakistan miss the Dubia stay.
 
the indians will defend this as usual... there is no point of even discussing this with them..
 
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No excuse to this kinda rubbish. I can understand that fans/press might need more vetting, but to delay visas to players is not acceptable.
 
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It's called facilitating VIPs

Happens in India and around the world.

The same reason you give an armed escort to teams etc

I am still not getting what's the exact expectation here?

Visa on same day, visa within 3 days, visa within 7 days, visa being processed much faster than it is done for Pakistani citizens as they are VIPs?

Many reports say that team will most likely recieve visa tomorrow.
 
I am still not getting what's the exact expectation here?

Visa on same day, visa within 3 days, visa within 7 days, visa being processed much faster than it is done for Pakistani citizens as they are VIPs?

Many reports say that team will most likely recieve visa tomorrow.

Doubt you will.
 
Why did the team cancel the dubai camp? Thats so bizarre! It has nothing to do with Indian visa. Don't need Indian visa to go to dubai.

And India Visa should arrive a day or two before date of departure to India. I still don't understand the need to cancel dubai camp..
 
Why did the team cancel the dubai camp? Thats so bizarre! It has nothing to do with Indian visa. Don't need Indian visa to go to dubai.

And India Visa should arrive a day or two before date of departure to India. I still don't understand the need to cancel dubai camp..

What we should do is cancel the warm up games to attend the Dubai camp - probably citing workload management or something like that..
 
Just a question - now Pakistan cancel their plans of holding a two-day camp in Dubai .still they fly from Lahore to Dubai then Dubai to Hyderabad . But why not they just come from Lahore to Atari - wagah Border in India? Is they not allowed from there or anything else? It's a honest question so don't take me wrong
 
Just a question - now Pakistan cancel their plans of holding a two-day camp in Dubai .still they fly to from Lahore to Dubai then Dubai to Hyderabad . But why not they just come to from Lahore to Atari - wagah Border in India? Is they not allowed from there or anything else? It's a honest question so don't take me wrong

Yes, I have another idea.

Why don't they come on donkey carts and on bicycles?

OR

Why can they not like all other teams coming to an ICC World Cup take a flight as early as they like and come over?

I will tell you why, because the New Dehli Cricket Board wants to ensure that Pakistan are as inconvenienced as possible to serve their masters in New Delhi?

Could it be that?
 
Yes, I have another idea.

Why don't they come on donkey carts and on bicycles?

OR

Why can they not like all other teams coming to an ICC World Cup take a flight as early as they like and come over?

I will tell you why, because the New Dehli Cricket Board wants to ensure that Pakistan are as inconvenienced as possible to serve their masters in New Delhi?

Could it be that?
How many teams reached in India so far?? There is reason why Pakistani origin people's simply can't get Visa due to known facts .even during Australia,- India series Usman khwaja granted visa after taking 2-3 more days than Australian player's . Pakistani player's get the visa before Wednesday according to BCCI. BCCI can't dictated in government matters .
 
How many teams reached in India so far?? There is reason why Pakistani origin people's simply can't get Visa due to known facts .even during Australia,- India series Usman khwaja granted visa after taking 2-3 more days than Australian player's . Pakistani player's get the visa before Wednesday according to BCCI. BCCI can't dictated in government matters .

Are you unable to understand?

This is a World Cup, not a trip to see Taj Mahal!

VIPs can have their visa apps fast forwarded.

Babar Azam is not a terrorist, nor is Saud Shakeel etc - they don't need a vetting process.
 
Are you unable to understand?

This is a World Cup, not a trip to see Taj Mahal!

VIPs can have their visa apps fast forwarded.

Babar Azam is not a terrorist, nor is Saud Shakeel etc - they don't need a vetting process.
World Cup or no world cup . Government have some policy and they follow their rules .even BCCI unable to solved tax issues with government. They are very strict about their rule .They follow the rules for any comman People's or VIP or VVIP.
 
World Cup or no world cup . Government have some policy and they follow their rules .even BCCI unable to solved tax issues with government. They are very strict about their rule .They follow the rules for any comman People's or VIP or VVIP.

Thank You for the clarification.

Your Govt's idea of following rules is well known so I can see where you are coming from.
 
World Cup or no world cup . Government have some policy and they follow their rules .even BCCI unable to solved tax issues with government. They are very strict about their rule .They follow the rules for any comman People's or VIP or VVIP.
So why it didn't happen to other teams which are going to participate in World Cup?

they molded their rules for them?
 
Why did the team cancel the dubai camp? Thats so bizarre! It has nothing to do with Indian visa. Don't need Indian visa to go to dubai.

And India Visa should arrive a day or two before date of departure to India. I still don't understand the need to cancel dubai camp..
I think they might have already submitted their passports for the Indian visa stamping, hence they can’t fly to Dubai anymore
 
So why it didn't happen to other teams which are going to participate in World Cup?

they molded their rules for them?
There is extra checking ( of documents) for Pakistani origin people's in india hence they take more time than others countries .it's a simple facts . BCCI/ ICC or PCB know this so they should have applied the visa maybe some more day ago .
 
There is extra checking ( of documents) for Pakistani origin people's in india hence they take more time than others countries .it's a simple facts . BCCI/ ICC or PCB know this so they should have applied the visa maybe some more day ago .

The simple fact is that BCCI to please their masters have done what they can to inconvenience Pakistan.

With your blind support for that, you have shown yourself to be no better than them.

Really have nothing more to say to the likes of you.

Continue posting in other threads.
 
The simple fact is that BCCI to please their masters have done what they can to inconvenience Pakistan.

With your blind support for that, you have shown yourself to be no better than them.

Really have nothing more to say to the likes of you.

Continue posting in other threads.
Is my support Change the visa process sir? I just explained you what was you asking me.
 
Hopefuly it will serve as fuel to motivate the team to go further in this WC. When you are a professional team, you should not let things like this weigh on your mind
 
Are you unable to understand?

This is a World Cup, not a trip to see Taj Mahal!

VIPs can have their visa apps fast forwarded.

Babar Azam is not a terrorist, nor is Saud Shakeel etc - they don't need a vetting process.
I think this is the part you don’t understand. These brainwashed bharatis are told all Pakistanis are terrorists. Their own countrymen who are Muslims are terrorists. Those who burn Muslims in droves are merely defending themselves.

So from that angle, to them it’s perfectly normal there is a vetting process for an international sports team.
 
Are you unable to understand?

This is a World Cup, not a trip to see Taj Mahal!

VIPs can have their visa apps fast forwarded.

Babar Azam is not a terrorist, nor is Saud Shakeel etc - they don't need a vetting process.

Their visa apps is fast forwarded that's why they will be getting it before their scheduled travel to India.

Otherwise it may take a month for normal people.

And players doesn't need vetting process - since when did that start happening? Is that a norm?
 
This is quite poor and juvenile. BCCI are the hosts and they should be ensuring that everything is done within their means to make this a seem less visit for their guests. If the objective is to isolate Pakistan, be consistent and apply that to ICC events too. It makes no sense

Also, this is the Pakistan Cricket team, none of them have been arrested for violence, terrorism of had any accusations level against them.


There is extra checking ( of documents) for Pakistani origin people's in india hence they take more time than others countries .it's a simple facts . BCCI/ ICC or PCB know this so they should have applied the visa maybe some more day ago .
 
Babar Azam is not a terrorist, nor is Saud Shakeel etc

Regarding etc - How many people know who are these gentlemen:

Rehan-ul-Haq
Aftab Khan
Abdul Rehman
Dr Sohail Saleem
Ahsan Iftikhan Nagi
Usman Anwari
Maqbool Ahmad Babri
Talha Ejaz
Malang Ali
 
This is quite poor and juvenile. BCCI are the hosts and they should be ensuring that everything is done within their means to make this a seem less visit for their guests. If the objective is to isolate Pakistan, be consistent and apply that to ICC events too. It makes no sense

Also, this is the Pakistan Cricket team, none of them have been arrested for violence, terrorism of had any accusations level against them.
BCCI is already told to ICC and PCB that they are trying so Visa process solved as soon as and they will granted the visa Wednesday or before if possible , still no team landed in india apart for Australia who already playing in india. people's are just overreacting . They think BCCI is openly discriminate against them but it's not the case .BCCI is nothing infornt of Indian government as they can't even solved te taxes issue .
 
Government source - Another source privy to the matter added: "the visas will come through after due vetting process. When it comes to issuing an Indian visa to a Pakistan passport holder, clearances need to come from three ministries - home, external affairs and sports. That process takes time but it will happen. Hope people's now understand the reason
 
Because of the terrorism incidents in the past, GOB takes extreme caution in allowing Pakistani citizens into Bharat. This is their duty and they’re doing a great job. If Pakistan was a responsible neighbor, these processes would have been a lot more convenient for all involved.

I do feel bad for the cricketers and the media and the fans who are suffering as a result. They have our utmost sympathy. But they should create pressure on their government to be responsible.
 
Because of the terrorism incidents in the past, GOB takes extreme caution in allowing Pakistani citizens into Bharat. This is their duty and they’re doing a great job. If Pakistan was a responsible neighbor, these processes would have been a lot more convenient for all involved.

I do feel bad for the cricketers and the media and the fans who are suffering as a result. They have our utmost sympathy. But they should create pressure on their government to be responsible.
So what Indians are not responsible for terrorism in Pakistan? The MQM operatives got training how to conduct murders in Karachi and the Indian officer caught recruiting operatives for terrorism in balochistan?

Was all that India being a responsible neighbor?
 
Why did the team cancel the dubai camp? Thats so bizarre! It has nothing to do with Indian visa. Don't need Indian visa to go to dubai.

And India Visa should arrive a day or two before date of departure to India. I still don't understand the need to cancel dubai camp..
Could be because the player passports would have been submitted for Indian visa issuance and thus they are unable to retrieve them to travel to Dubai.
 
Why did the team cancel the dubai camp? Thats so bizarre! It has nothing to do with Indian visa. Don't need Indian visa to go to dubai.

And India Visa should arrive a day or two before date of departure to India. I still don't understand the need to cancel dubai camp..
Brother we can't trust India. What if the PCB sends the team to Dubai and they delay issuing visas for another week or more? Would the team be stranded in Dubai and the PCB would be responsible for covering all the expenses?
 
Obvious
Because of the terrorism incidents in the past, GOB takes extreme caution in allowing Pakistani citizens into Bharat. This is their duty and they’re doing a great job. If Pakistan was a responsible neighbor, these processes would have been a lot more convenient for all involved.

I do feel bad for the cricketers and the media and the fans who are suffering as a result. They have our utmost sympathy. But they should create pressure on their government to be responsible.
Hasn't Pakistan been open to playing against India despite India being involved in continuous terrorism in Pakistan? If India was visiting Pakistan, we all know well despite India sponsoring, planning terrorism in Pakistan which has cost Pakistan thousands of innocent lives, we wouldn't let that play into Sports and do cheap things like cause unnecessary delays under the name of security. Not everything has to be looked through the blind nationalism of Indians. It's merely childish to behave like that against a national team.

PCB does deserve all this based on their shameless approach in Asia Cup, and not that this will teach them any lesson.
 
It's just host government trying to disgrace Pakistan as much as possible, playing bully as they have the financial might and the cup is held in their country so they feel they can do what ever they like. Visa will be sorted just before travel day. They already made Pakistan miss the Dubia stay.
Pakistan players didn’t deserve the Dubai trip given their farcical Asia Cup performance. Can do team bonding by going to Clifton Beach.
 
Obvious

Hasn't Pakistan been open to playing against India despite India being involved in continuous terrorism in Pakistan? If India was visiting Pakistan, we all know well despite India sponsoring, planning terrorism in Pakistan which has cost Pakistan thousands of innocent lives, we wouldn't let that play into Sports and do cheap things like cause unnecessary delays under the name of security. Not everything has to be looked through the blind nationalism of Indians. It's merely childish to behave like that against a national team.

PCB does deserve all this based on their shameless approach in Asia Cup, and not that this will teach them any lesson.
But that’s not terrorism because it’s some holy Hindu war conducted by Bharat so we will just give it a pass
 
So what Indians are not responsible for terrorism in Pakistan? The MQM operatives got training how to conduct murders in Karachi and the Indian officer caught recruiting operatives for terrorism in balochistan?

Was all that India being a responsible neighbor?

Indians should also be properly vetted before visa is issued to them when team visits Pakistan.
 
Lets see.

Pakistan finished its match in SL on the 14th. So they got back to pakistan on the 15th.

They probably submitted passports on the 16th for most players.

Babar and rizwan went to Dubai and returned around 19th or 20th. So when did they submit passport for visa?

They want visa in 24 hours?

how exactly is PCB claiming they submited passports 1 week ago?

 
Obvious

Hasn't Pakistan been open to playing against India despite India being involved in continuous terrorism in Pakistan? If India was visiting Pakistan, we all know well despite India sponsoring, planning terrorism in Pakistan which has cost Pakistan thousands of innocent lives, we wouldn't let that play into Sports and do cheap things like cause unnecessary delays under the name of security. Not everything has to be looked through the blind nationalism of Indians. It's merely childish to behave like that against a national team.

PCB does deserve all this based on their shameless approach in Asia Cup, and not that this will teach them any lesson.
So what Indians are not responsible for terrorism in Pakistan? The MQM operatives got training how to conduct murders in Karachi and the Indian officer caught recruiting operatives for terrorism in balochistan?

Was all that India being a responsible neighbor?

You can vent your frustrations at me but you can read my post 10 times and will realise what i wrote is 100% what it is.

This is the unfortunate situation between the two nations and civilians must play a positive role in making this better in future.

This is why I always say Bharat Pakistan cricket should be permanently scrapped. To avoid such issues. It wasted our time and energy.
 
Let’s just be honest, Indian government is being petty. We all remember how Khawaja had his visa delayed compared to his teammates earlier this year.

It won’t affect our winning or losing, but it is just childish.
 
Indians should also be properly vetted before visa is issued to them when team visits Pakistan.
Dude what sort of crisp is India smoking these days?

These are international representative players for their countries. They don’t need to be vetted. They will be under 24/7 high security environment with eyes on them at all times. How much sense does any so-called delay here make?
None.. zero!

International sportsmen, diplomats, etc are not held to the same criteria as your average joe.
 
Dude what sort of crisp is India smoking these days?

These are international representative players for their countries. They don’t need to be vetted. They will be under 24/7 high security environment with eyes on them at all times. How much sense does any so-called delay here make?
None.. zero!

International sportsmen, diplomats, etc are not held to the same criteria as your average joe.

Team doesn't consist of players only.

Read #52

Without searching online, tell us who are these folks

Rehan-ul-Haq
Aftab Khan
Abdul Rehman
Dr Sohail Saleem
Ahsan Iftikhan Nagi
Usman Anwari
Maqbool Ahmad Babri
Talha Ejaz
Malang Ali
 
Dude what sort of crisp is India smoking these days?

These are international representative players for their countries. They don’t need to be vetted. They will be under 24/7 high security environment with eyes on them at all times. How much sense does any so-called delay here make?
None.. zero!

International sportsmen, diplomats, etc are not held to the same criteria as your average joe.
It’s about them flexing power and trying to embarrass us. No one thinks that Babar Azam is going to India to spy on them.
 
Team doesn't consist of players only.

Read #52

Without searching online, tell us who are these folks

Rehan-ul-Haq
Aftab Khan
Abdul Rehman
Dr Sohail Saleem
Ahsan Iftikhan Nagi
Usman Anwari
Maqbool Ahmad Babri
Talha Ejaz
Malang Ali
All have travelled to multiple ICC Events and were next to your players in Asia Cup as well.

Stop making silly excuses and embarrassing yourself.

You do not work for the GOI so you have no idea why they are taking time on these visas.
 
Pakistan is flying to India on 27th/28th. Visa will only arrive a day or two before travel. I actually don't see any problem with that. It would be a problem if Visa arrives after date of travel has passed, then thats bad! As long as it is before travel date, who cares when it arrives.
 
Pakistan is flying to India on 27th/28th. Visa will only arrive a day or two before travel. I actually don't see any problem with that. It would be a problem if Visa arrives after date of travel has passed, then thats bad! As long as it is before travel date, who cares when it arrives.
This is why PCB’s image has suffered and relations soured. Every time they create these dramas. It’s better if they don’t send a team rather.
 
Pakistan is flying to India on 27th/28th. Visa will only arrive a day or two before travel. I actually don't see any problem with that. It would be a problem if Visa arrives after date of travel has passed, then thats bad! As long as it is before travel date, who cares when it arrives.
Exactly! The visa needs to be granted before their scheduled date of departure to India.
 
The truth is that the Indian government is probably creating nuisance for the sake of it.

The current government has everything to gain by inflicting as much pain for Pakistan as possible.

I just optimistically hope that they see the difference between Pakistan as government and the people living in Pakistan.

On principle, politicians should never be allowed to use sports as tool for power games.
 
All have travelled to multiple ICC Events and were next to your players in Asia Cup as well.

Stop making silly excuses and embarrassing yourself.

You do not work for the GOI so you have no idea why they are taking time on these visas.

Didn't know that all have travelled to India also.

It's not Indian govt fault that PCB applied visa for squad so late.
 
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