Huge gap in the standard of fielding and batting between foreign and local players in the PSL

[moghul]

Particularly standard of fielding of local players is the worst I have seen in any league. We have Iftikhar Chacha who could not take few steps in front to attempt Dunk's cath. We have keeper Kamran Chacha who let pass the ball through his two gloved hands while catching a dolly, all around fielding standard is shameful.

Comparing that , look at out Indian counterparts, since the inception of IPL, Indian players fitness and fielding is matching that of Australia, NZL and England.

Our local batsmen, less we say is better. While we see foreigners, Ronchi, Munro, Ingram, Hales, Walton, Vince, Russouw, Cutting, Livingston, and others playing match winning or entertaining innings, hardly any local player, baring a good inning from Babar, has done anything of worth mentioning in batting.

Really a matter of big concern. I don't have too many expectations from our team in T20 WC, we lag behind by miles in batting and fielding. Ranking we achieved is by beating some weaker teams on our kind of pitches.

 

[jiduguravindra]

Most of the match winning performances are being played by foreigners.

 

[shah_1]

PSL has exposed Pakistan lack of talent

Horrible fielding
Horrible batting talent, only Haider has shown promise
Horrible wrist spinners
Horrible WK batsmen

Fast bowling is alright

Pakistan cricket is in the worst possible shape

 

[shah_1]

We will be spanked in the T20 world cup

 

[Hawkeye]

Horrible batting. Yes.

We don't have any quality hitters.

It's a well known fact and nothing got exposed.

 

[globalcitizen]

The bowling from local players seems to be holding up still average through could do better

But it’s very concerning that batsmen and fielders cannot match the discarded international players. Fielding does not even need a comparison it’s horrible

Samit Patel among runs and wickets
Alex hales consistently scoring faster and more than Babar as an opener
Ben dunk winning matches on his own
Ben cutting winning few matches and Walton smashing them

The tournament should be about emergence of local players and their development. May be teams should put them in situations rather than just relying on internationals to win games

 

[pakistanisgreat]

Honestly speaking thus far, i have not seen new talent in all three departments. Mainly i was hoping for a new spinner and wicket keeper.

 

[PakPremi]

Our spinners in Zafar, Umar, Hafeez and Shadab are not bad at all.
Our fast bowlers in Wahab, Hasan Ali, Mohd Amir. Shaheen, Haris, Naseem, Husnain, Rumain, And even Musa are good .
Batsmen we are lacking due to Fakhar form nose diving big time, Sharjeel fitness and lack of match practise, but we still have Babar, Haider, Hafeez. It is true we have no big hitters.

 

[moghul]

No new talent in any department, Haider is only one worth mentioning, he too has not played any spectacular inning, just some glimpses of his talent.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I don’t understand people who actually watch the psl to support a franchise. The whole point for me is to see which local players are good. So far from the locals, the batting especially has been God awful. The foreign batsmen are carrying hard

 

[moghul]

Its shocking that Multan Sultan keep playing this useless Zeeshan and keeping Rohail Nazir out .

 

[Shafi]

PSL never promote local young batsman. Failures like Shehzad, Butt, Asif...keep getting selected again and again. It’s a league of connection.

 

[Savak]

The quality of coaching at the grass roots in Pakistan has been abysmal. It is showing up in the quality of players been churned up by our system

 

[Markhor]

Said it for two years. PSL exposes all the frailties of Pakistani cricket. Doesn't help that these senior leeches are still hanging on for one last payday.

 

[moghul]

PSL never promote local young batsman. Failures like Shehzad, Butt, Asif...keep getting selected again and again. It’s a league of connection.

Zeeshan, Hafeez ( baring one inning ) Fakhar Zaman, Azam Khan, Imam, to add to that list.

 

[shaz619]

Horrible fielding
Horrible batting talent, only Haider has shown promise
Horrible wrist spinners
Horrible WK batsmen

Fast bowling is alright

Pakistan cricket is in the worst possible shape

Oh god! my greatest fear has been confirmed

 

[InziRules]

PSL has the same issue that Pakistan cricket has. Senior players and coaches (Like the Mohali man Misbah) who shouldn't be in the team are playing

 

[moghul]

PSL, more than half way through and we have not found any

Keeper
Batsman
Out standing fielder like Shadab or Ahmed Shehzad
Spinner
New Fast bowler ( area of less worry though )

But PSL 5 is a " great success", big crowd, lower expenses compared to holding in UAE, so PCB and owners are happy, who cares about Pakistan cricket.

 

[InziRules]

PSL, more than half way through and we have not found any

Keeper
Batsman
Out standing fielder like Shadab or Ahmed Shehzad
Spinner
New Fast bowler ( area of less worry though )

But PSL 5 is a " great success", big crowd, lower expenses compared to holding in UAE, so PCB and owners are happy, who cares about Pakistan cricket.

You're not supposed to find talent in PSL, main thing is money that can be used to create talent. So it's a success. That said, there really is zero talent in our cricket right now, other than Babar.

 

[Pakpak]

PSL never promote local young batsman. Failures like Shehzad, Butt, Asif...keep getting selected again and again. It’s a league of connection.

It really is. From Butt to Shehzad to Malik to Hafeez to Afridi to Imam its all connections. I mean we even had Azhar and Asad Shafiq playing this for a few seasons. If anyone has connections they can sneak in a franchise and enjoy a very good payday.

 

[Hasan123]

The standard of local batting is atrocious. Ahmed Shehzad is a regular for QG and he is a rubbish T20 player. Kamran at 40 is playing an important part in PZ success .

 

[Saj]

Harsh reality and a glaring problem.

Too many Pakistani batsmen are being shown up in this tournament.

 

[Mamoon]

PSL continues to show why Pakistan is a now a borderline minnow nation with a genuine talent crisis.

 

[Mamoon]

I don’t understand people who actually watch the psl to support a franchise. The whole point for me is to see which local players are good. So far from the locals, the batting especially has been God awful. The foreign batsmen are carrying hard

It is natural. You are bound to support your city.

To be honest, I think I love Zalmi more than the Pakistan team.

 

[Saj]

Ask yourself 2 questions:

Which Pakistani batsman at the PSL is capable of scoring a 100?
Which Pakistani batsman at the PSL is capable of taking his team to victory on his own?

The answer to above will be very few names.

 

[Ertugrul_Bey]

Way too many TTFs and parcheez, not only in PSL but also in domestic circuit hence the poor pool to choose from for franchises.

 

[hitthestump]

Pakistan have consistently produced world class batsmen in their past and it is a criminally underrated part of our cricketing history. So why is the cupboard suddenly bare now? Are we a nation that is so obsessed with pace that we don't care to nurture our technically correct batsmen?

 

[hitthestump]

It's probably high time to call a batting crisis and overhaul how we nuture our young upcoming batsmen. PCB probably should bite the bullet and get Younis Khan to work with our youngsters.

 

[moghul]

Ask yourself 2 questions:

Which Pakistani batsman at the PSL is capable of scoring a 100?
Which Pakistani batsman at the PSL is capable of taking his team to victory on his own?

The answer to above will be very few names.

If we're talking about at international level, the short answer in no one .

Babar can play a good inning of 70-80, but not 100 at international level, he is not a "brutal" power hitter like, Dunk, Hales and Rossouw are. Not now, but in future Haider Ali could become one.

 

[Saj]

If we're talking about at international level, the short answer in no one .

Babar can play a good inning of 70-80, but not 100 at international level, he is not a "brutal" power hitter like, Dunk, Hales and Rossouw are. Not now, but in future Haider Ali could become one.

I am talking about even at PSL level.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

It is natural. You are bound to support your city.

To be honest, I think I love Zalmi more than the Pakistan team.

That makes sense. I love Karachi. However these teams just have the names of these cities they don’t really represent them. It’s like pitting two random animals to fight each other and naming one Karachi and the other Lahore. The foreigners are the ones mainly doing stuff in the league anyway. Plus the fact that players switch teams every year so it’s impossible for me to be loyal towards a single team even if I am a fan of a specific player

 

[moghul]

That makes sense. I love Karachi. However these teams just have the names of these cities they don’t really represent them. It’s like pitting two random animals to fight each other and naming one Karachi and the other Lahore. The foreigners are the ones mainly doing stuff in the league anyway. Plus the fact that players switch teams every year so it’s impossible for me to be loyal towards a single team even if I am a fan of a specific player

And I converted back to Qalander. My hometown team with hardly any player from Lahore, except , guess who, Salman Butt

 

[marlonbrowndo]

It's probably high time to call a batting crisis and overhaul how we nuture our young upcoming batsmen. PCB probably should bite the bullet and get Younis Khan to work with our youngsters.

Younis Khan is the worst batsman in ODI history to have played more than 150 games. Hell even 100 maybe. Our limited overs batting has been generally trash for the past 20 years

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Bowling is also below par , only 2,3 bowlers who are doing their job

 

[shah_1]

We need world class batting and fielding coaches at U16 and U19 level. We need to find out what is wrong with development of batsmen by PCB. It is so sad to see this.

6 teams is not the only solution but improvement at U19 level should be the top most priority then the quality in 6 teams would come in. The system has collapsed. Wasim Khan or someone else needs to be the saviour and should do something about it

 

[Savak]

Ramiz Raja suggested that the PCB appoint power hitting coaches at the domestic level and the academies. England did the same and now look how their limited over fortunes have changed for the better. Why does the PCB insist on being so backward and behind the times?

 

[InziRules]

One of the major issues is lack of young players. Young players field better and are more energetic with the bat. I made a thread on how we can give an incentive to teams for playing younger players, which I think would improve standards enormously long term

 

[yasir]

Pakistan have consistently produced world class batsmen in their past and it is a criminally underrated part of our cricketing history. So why is the cupboard suddenly bare now? Are we a nation that is so obsessed with pace that we don't care to nurture our technically correct batsmen?

This is so not true. I have been watching Pakistan cricket for 35 years. I am talking about test and ODI. Pakistan always lack world class Batsman. None of the Pakistani batsmen were number 1/2/3 of their time. Most of our legends had really poor technique. Look at Javed, Inzi, Younis etc, they were not that classy players, their technique were not of good quality.

Where as MoYo, Zaheer, Sayeed, Babar were pleasing to eyes and had good technique...

But non of the Pakistani batsmen were in top 3 for long period of time. Some of them might be top in Asia, but we never produce somebody like Viv, Lara, Tendulkar, Ponting, Kallas etc who were best player for long period of time all over the world.

Babar is one guy who gives some hope, that if he continue to grow, he could be in top 3 world batsmen for long period of time. He is also the most talented and well rounded Batsman I have seen in green color. Plus he is also pretty good athlete, people forget half of our legends were terrible athletes, Inzi, MoYo, Sayed Anwar, had achieved half of what they should because of not taking cricket seriously as an athlete

 

[ahsan17]

The problem I have been seeing with PSL since the first edition is that a lot of Pakistani players are those who have no future in the Pakistani team and/or will soon retire. What are the likes of Malik, Hafeez, Afridi, Salman Butt, Sohail Tanvir, Kamran Akmal etc doing in this league? These people have no future in the Pakistan team. It should be a league to groom the future players, and yet half of it is filled with retirees or soon to be retirees, some of which had to be retired unwillingly (e.g. Akmal). Maybe Afridi can be an exception because he is a brand of his own and people will come to watch him, but the other players are not that. PCB needs to make a rule around this so that the future drafts don't include such players and instead contain younger players.

 

[Shafi]

We need world class batting and fielding coaches at U16 and U19 level. We need to find out what is wrong with development of batsmen by PCB. It is so sad to see this.

6 teams is not the only solution but improvement at U19 level should be the top most priority then the quality in 6 teams would come in. The system has collapsed. Wasim Khan or someone else needs to be the saviour and should do something about it

He is there to save money for PCB and some quick cheap solution. Don't have high hope about him unfortunately.He is good at motivation types of speech.

 

[Shafi]

The problem I have been seeing with PSL since the first edition is that a lot of Pakistani players are those who have no future in the Pakistani team and/or will soon retire. What are the likes of Malik, Hafeez, Afridi, Salman Butt, Sohail Tanvir, Kamran Akmal etc doing in this league? These people have no future in the Pakistan team. It should be a league to groom the future players, and yet half of it is filled with retirees or soon to be retirees, some of which had to be retired unwillingly (e.g. Akmal). Maybe Afridi can be an exception because he is a brand of his own and people will come to watch him, but the other players are not that. PCB needs to make a rule around this so that the future drafts don't include such players and instead contain younger players.

Exactly!!! But you will see some Misbah fans will strongly deny that.

 

[Bigboii]

If we're talking about at international level, the short answer in no one .

Babar can play a good inning of 70-80, but not 100 at international level, he is not a "brutal" power hitter like, Dunk, Hales and Rossouw are. Not now, but in future Haider Ali could become one.

I hope not, all of the GOAT batsman are not power hitters they are accumulators I wa.t Haider to go to Babar route of batting

 

[Shafi]

It's probably high time to call a batting crisis and overhaul how we nuture our young upcoming batsmen. PCB probably should bite the bullet and get Younis Khan to work with our youngsters.

PCB seriously doesn't care much about that.

 

[shah_1]

Our concept of power hitting

Clear you leg, and play ugly slogs. Khusdil Stokes and Asif Butler

 

[tyron_woodley]

that's what happens when you eat too much mutton masala chicken curry etc.

 

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