"I don't think we should go gaga about him (Mohammad Amir)" : Rohit Sharma

[Teshi98]

Carry on cry babies. This champions trophy loss and Amir's 3 wickets in finale are going to hurt you for two more year if u continue to feel soreness of it.Better would be for you to accept the superiority of Pakistani team and amir over their counter parts for the time being ��
P.s An average bowler bowled out Indian best batsman in two successive deliveries . So if the bowler is mediocre , then batsman would have been even worse.

It really shows how great your cricketing knowledge is. Getting out once against a bowler makes the batsmen poor ? Then there would probably have veen no atg till now. Also we have beaten you enough in icc events earlier and are not really bothered too much with this defeat. And i am sure it will only hurt us two years (if it does) as we will thrash you the way we have been doing from 6 previous wcs. Without doubt pak were superior team in previous era but one victory agaibst us does not change the fact that your team is not a match for the indian team whatsoever. Even with some nonperfoming oldies in our team we are much better than your team. So keep living in this delusion of how strong your team is or how great amir is till the time we meet again where you will be beaten as usual and then go on holiday from such threads.

 

[Coconut]

So just one single match where he went for 7 runs an over, proves that he was thrashed? I am assuming you are trolling or maybe you have really high standards because your team has legends like Mustafizur and Taskin.

He asked for one example, I gave him one. But that doesn't necessarily mean that's the only one match where he got thrashed mercilessly. There r other matches where he got somewhat similar treatment.

Just to make it clear to everyone, I'm not saying that he's poor or something like that. What I'm saying is he's nowhere near as good as he's made out to be here. He's just another decent bowler who usually struggles if the condition doesn't favor him, just like Rohit.

**** He still doesn't have a single five wicket haul in any form of cricket.,

 

[Uzi]

**** He still doesn't have a single five wicket haul in any form of cricket.,

Talking about Amir? Are you sure about that?

You may want to check your facts before spouting rubbish.

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

"After champions trophy final, i think we should definitely go gaha about Mohd Amir," Rohit Sharma.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

I won't reply to the first part since it has nothing meaningful about it however let's try to test that theory of yours shall, the one that says that Indian batsmen succumbed to the pressure of the chase rather than some (I won't use the word exception), lets just say 'Good Bowling'.

According to cricinfo commentary, which is predominantly run by Indians, this is their take on how the action unfolded......

Rohit's Wicket
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Makes one go past Sharma with the angle, if you look at the highlights, it's a scrambled seamed delivery with his wrists towards the slip region which means the delivery was intended to go away from him - This was the setup delivery while the next one is the catch.


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Working Virat Kohli Over
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Now comes the fourth stump setup while making sure Virat is late on the ball and is not able to cover the line, first he draws him forward so that virat gets to make contact with the ball.



Since now he got him moving and playing on Off stump all he had to was to fire a ball across and make him chase it a bit (only a bit).



Every thing worked except, of course, the drop catch. He had beaten him on his vulnerability, which is that fourth stump like so naturally being the best batsman in the World Kohli would try and minimize it by improvising and getting into a position that would enable him to country this. As a bowler Amir knew that the batsman would now get proactive so the only way he would induce a false shot would be to drag his length and try to disrupt the timing of the next shot - He did exactly that !




Dhawan - The Man in Form
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Before Dhawan got that brute of a cross seamer which bounced and beat him for length and pace, Amir made him play four consecutive deliveries on the Off stump so that he would start to feel bat on ball, while defending. Here is the setup





The change up now.......



He got him playing four times so that he would get used to a specific length of a delivery and then fire in an off stump ball that would be of the same length but bounce a bit more uneven due to the cross seam.




Yuvraj Singh - Got outfoxed by an 18 year old
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Yuvraj was outmaneuvered by an 18 year old, with the oldest trick in the book. A 1-2 standard sequence for a leg spinner and Yuvraj was trapped as plump as it can get.



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These are the first four wickets of the Indian innings and I'll leave it at that however, I understand that it's massively difficult for the average Indian to come to terms with the fact that Pakistan hammered you guys (in all facets of the game) by putting on the biggest margin of victory in tournament finals in history of the game.

Amir might be averaging 32 in test cricket but make no mistake, 99% of you lot will swap him in a heartbeat for the entire Indian bowling squad without blinking twice. Two tournament finals, two spells to take out the best of the tournament / format.

One can say Rohit is a hack/FTB, and Kohli's 4th stump vulnerability is well exploited but the way he played with Dhawan was amazing to see. Out of all three scalps, Dhawan's wicket is my favorite. He schooled him.

He could have easily bagged a 5fer, but Junaid/Shadab/Hasan pwned Indians and there was no need for him to bowl again.

 

[Usman Chadda]

He asked for one example, I gave him one. But that doesn't necessarily mean that's the only one match where he got thrashed mercilessly. There r other matches where he got somewhat similar treatment.

Just to make it clear to everyone, I'm not saying that he's poor or something like that. What I'm saying is he's nowhere near as good as he's made out to be here. He's just another decent bowler who usually struggles if the condition doesn't favor him, just like Rohit.

**** He still doesn't have a single five wicket haul in any form of cricket.,

If Amir is only decent, then every India pacer right now is dowright rubbish. Indians commenting on pace bowlers is really funny to be honest. Produce a half-decent pace bowler once in your history and then talk.

 

[Pakpak]

He asked for one example, I gave him one. But that doesn't necessarily mean that's the only one match where he got thrashed mercilessly. There r other matches where he got somewhat similar treatment.

Just to make it clear to everyone, I'm not saying that he's poor or something like that. What I'm saying is he's nowhere near as good as he's made out to be here. He's just another decent bowler who usually struggles if the condition doesn't favor him, just like Rohit.

**** He still doesn't have a single five wicket haul in any form of cricket.,

Infact I checked again, he has FOUR five wicket and 3 four wicket hauls in Tests.

 

[Coconut]

If Amir is only decent, then every India pacer right now is dowright rubbish. Indians commenting on pace bowlers is really funny to be honest. Produce a half-decent pace bowler once in your history and then talk.

Shami and bhuvi both of them r superior to Amir in Test Cricket. Actually if we consider both test and Lois then right now bhuvi is easily the best pacer from Asia followed by fizz.

Amir at best will be at 5th position. Remember this is only for the Asian teams. If we consider all the other teams then there's a strong possibility that he might not be even in top ten. He gets way too much hype on this board. He's a decent bowler who becomes effective on lively pitches.


BTW, there were few misinformation in my previous post. Amir doesn't have have a single five wicket haul in odis or t20s but he has a few in tests.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Indians lecturing us on Fast Bowling is like Afghani fans telling other test playing nations on how to play cricket

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Shami and bhuvi both of them r superior to Amir in Test Cricket. Actually if we consider both test and Lois then right now bhuvi is easily the best pacer from Asia followed by fizz.

Amir at best will be at 5th position. Remember this is only for the Asian teams. If we consider all the other teams then there's a strong possibility that he might not be even in top ten. He gets way too much hype on this board. He's a decent bowler who becomes effective on lively pitches.


BTW, there were few misinformation in my previous post. Amir doesn't have have a single five wicket haul in odis or t20s but he has a few in tests.

Are you [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ?

Lolz. Wahab Riaz, as much as I hate him is light years ahead of any pacers India ever produced.

 

[Stewie]

This thread takes me back to those days when amir was still banned and almost all Indian supporters here used to vehemently insist that amir was always just a medium pacer who maxed out at low 130s and that Pakistan was not missing anything during his absence.

They were pretty sure in their determination that he won't make any impact on his comeback. Ivan probably dig up several threads from 2011-2015 where Indians used to flood PP with such discussions.

I see the trend continues even now, though it seems this is more out of jealousy and wishful thinking.

It's still early days for Aamir after his comeback and he is making a slow climb in tests but his performance in just the final should shut people up. He is not s medium pacer, he is quick and he is a class player. His time away did not change his class. By the time he retires he will tower over Indian so called pace bowlers. It's just inevitable.

 

[Monsee]

Shami and bhuvi both of them r superior to Amir in Test Cricket. Actually if we consider both test and Lois then right now bhuvi is easily the best pacer from Asia followed by fizz.

Amir at best will be at 5th position. Remember this is only for the Asian teams. If we consider all the other teams then there's a strong possibility that he might not be even in top ten. He gets way too much hype on this board. He's a decent bowler who becomes effective on lively pitches.


BTW, there were few misinformation in my previous post. Amir doesn't have have a single five wicket haul in odis or t20s but he has a few in tests.

Everyone, Coconut just revealed why India lost i.e. an average, hyped up bowler came across a 'Lively' picth in the CT17 final and only that is why he destroyed Indian 'Great Rockstars'...heard here first on PP LOL

 

[Stewie]

Everyone, Coconut just revealed why India lost i.e. an average, hyped up bowler came across a 'Lively' picth in the CT17 final and only that is why he destroyed Indian 'Great Rockstars'...heard here first on PP LOL

By the same token the celebrated Indian batting is only good as long as they play on flat tracks so they are what we fondly call FTBs? Lol

The hypocrisy is so palpable

 

[zn426]

It really shows how great your cricketing knowledge is. Getting out once against a bowler makes the batsmen poor ? Then there would probably have veen no atg till now. Also we have beaten you enough in icc events earlier and are not really bothered too much with this defeat. And i am sure it will only hurt us two years (if it does) as we will thrash you the way we have been doing from 6 previous wcs. Without doubt pak were superior team in previous era but one victory agaibst us does not change the fact that your team is not a match for the indian team whatsoever. Even with some nonperfoming oldies in our team we are much better than your team. So keep living in this delusion of how strong your team is or how great amir is till the time we meet again where you will be beaten as usual and then go on holiday from such threads.

Hey, hey, we have non-performing oldies too. Their names are Shoaib Malik and Mohammad Hafeez. It just happened that one of the oldies managed to get some gold on the day.

 

[Teshi98]

This thread takes me back to those days when amir was still banned and almost all Indian supporters here used to vehemently insist that amir was always just a medium pacer who maxed out at low 130s and that Pakistan was not missing anything during his absence.

They were pretty sure in their determination that he won't make any impact on his comeback. Ivan probably dig up several threads from 2011-2015 where Indians used to flood PP with such discussions.

I see the trend continues even now, though it seems this is more out of jealousy and wishful thinking.

It's still early days for Aamir after his comeback and he is making a slow climb in tests but his performance in just the final should shut people up. He is not s medium pacer, he is quick and he is a class player. His time away did not change his class. By the time he retires he will tower over Indian so called pace bowlers. It's just inevitable.

One perfomance and people should shut up. Wow so that means you perform once and expect people not to bring up your previous medicore or poor perfomances.
Amir before ban was a different bowler and i do not know of others but always thought him to be one with all goods to be another list in pak' s great bowling history. Although even before ban his best performances came in bowler friendly conditions he still was very good in others.
After his comeback he has hardly given match winning perfomances barring one or two occasions which is not something you expect from your best bowler or one whom you consider will go down as atg.
Yes he did perform in the big match but actually the pressure was not on him and it helped him in getting all those wickets.
One thing you quote correctly is that he is not a medium pacer but pace alone does not bring success. He has the ability to swing in helpful conditions but often ends up putting up just okayish performances on neutral or batting wickets. We will see if he goes past any of current indian bowlers but even if he does he will surely be the second or third best with one or two indian bowlers always ahead him.
And if indian bowlers ate so called fast bowlers your team bowlers must be trundlers since average speed of indian bowlers has been greater than pak.

 

[Teshi98]

Shami and bhuvi both of them r superior to Amir in Test Cricket. Actually if we consider both test and Lois then right now bhuvi is easily the best pacer from Asia followed by fizz.

Amir at best will be at 5th position. Remember this is only for the Asian teams. If we consider all the other teams then there's a strong possibility that he might not be even in top ten. He gets way too much hype on this board. He's a decent bowler who becomes effective on lively pitches.


BTW, there were few misinformation in my previous post. Amir doesn't have have a single five wicket haul in odis or t20s but he has a few in tests.

Very well said.
Actually once the superpower of asian fast bowling some pak fans can not accept that they no longer are the best. So to proove that their bowlers are best they tell others are jealous hype yheir bowlers to unbelievable extent till they finally agree to their opinion.

 

[Teshi98]

Hey, hey, we have non-performing oldies too. Their names are Shoaib Malik and Mohammad Hafeez. It just happened that one of the oldies managed to get some gold on the day.

Yaa you are correct but it still does not change the fact that indian team is better than pak team in any format at this moment.
Also shoaib malik has a pretty decent record since his comeback so he may be a oldie but not in list of nonperfoming oldies like hafeez

 

[Coconut]

Everyone, Coconut just revealed why India lost i.e. an average, hyped up bowler came across a 'Lively' picth in the CT17 final and only that is why he destroyed Indian 'Great Rockstars'...heard here first on PP LOL

I've said that Amir is a decent bowler, nothing special. I've also said that he relies heavily on conditions and pitches to take wickets. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he has never bowled a single good spell in his entire career on pitches which didn't have much assistance for him.

Off course he did. But those spells were few and far between. Just take jadeja for an example. He relies heavily on pitches to take take wickets. If pitch doesn't provide enough turn he usually struggles to take wickets.


But does this mean he has never run through the opposition batting lineup on batting friendly pitches? Of course not. But exception can't be an example.


I don't even know why r we even discussing so much about a player who averages over 40 outside England in Tests against top 8. His bowling figures indicates that he's quite average.

 

[zn426]

Yaa you are correct but it still does not change the fact that indian team is better than pak team in any format at this moment.
Also shoaib malik has a pretty decent record since his comeback so he may be a oldie but not in list of nonperfoming oldies like hafeez

Guy, if you were better, then you should have beat us in the CT final. Of course, because your government won't give permission for a full bilateral series, how will the score ever be settled? All we have to go on then is latest results, and until the next Pakistan-India match, Pakistan is better than India.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Shami and bhuvi both of them r superior to Amir in Test Cricket. Actually if we consider both test and Lois then right now bhuvi is easily the best pacer from Asia followed by fizz.

Amir at best will be at 5th position. Remember this is only for the Asian teams. If we consider all the other teams then there's a strong possibility that he might not be even in top ten. He gets way too much hype on this board. He's a decent bowler who becomes effective on lively pitches.


BTW, there were few misinformation in my previous post. Amir doesn't have have a single five wicket haul in odis or t20s but he has a few in tests.

Come back and talk to me when mediocre bowlers like Shami, Kumar and Mustafizur win their team a final (not to mention a major trophy) against all odds. Wasn't Shami recently ruthlessly smashed around by the same Ewin Lewis that was kept quiet by the pacer you are dissing in this thread?

Indians should really not talk about fast bowling. You have always had a mediocre set of pace bowlers that fall apart as soon as one of Ashwin and Jadeja go missing. As long as these two spinners are bowling well, the pace bowling chips in here and there and is hailed as the next best thing thanks to the absolutely nonsense standards that were set by their predecessors. Once they dont, you get demolished like you did recently against Pakistan and West Indies. Any opinion from the likes of you should be disregarded immediately.

 

[OmaIR1]

Shami and bhuvi both of them r superior to Amir in Test Cricket. Actually if we consider both test and Lois then right now bhuvi is easily the best pacer from Asia followed by fizz.

Amir at best will be at 5th position. Remember this is only for the Asian teams. If we consider all the other teams then there's a strong possibility that he might not be even in top ten. He gets way too much hype on this board. He's a decent bowler who becomes effective on lively pitches.


BTW, there were few misinformation in my previous post. Amir doesn't have have a single five wicket haul in odis or t20s but he has a few in tests.

If you ask a neutral cricket fan/commentator/sports personality, they will all choose Amir over Shami and Kumar.

There is a reason for this.

 

[Proactive_]

Yes. We should go gaga about Rohit Sharma's stupendous test career thus far instead.

 

[Bilal7]

You always keep hyping your players as if all of them are legends. Amir has hardly given some match winning perfomances since his comeback. When you have to give example of bowler doing great in match where he had 340 to defend along with the huge pressure of ct final on his side you know that he is not world class. Rohit sharma may well be a ftb but he is and will always be better than your medicore batsmen and hyped bowlers.
Hasan ali is the only world class bowler in pak squad with shadab having the ability to become so. Amir has been pretty medicore and just because of one or two perfomances trolls like you keep hyping him up.

Amir deserves the hype he gets because he is clearly one of the best bowlers in the world. Your ignorant obsession with averages is amusing because you are expecting a teenager to have numbers like Wasim and Imran whilst also expecting a bowler who went on hiatus for five years to not experience a transitory period where he gets back into his groove.

That average will come down, in both tests and ODIs, Amir is only 23-24, not 30 years old like Rohit, who will be nothing more than a hack when he hangs up his boots in a couple of years. A failure in test cricket and a FTB in ODIs. Comparing him to someone with as bright a future as Amir is ridiculous.

 

[Teshi98]

Amir deserves the hype he gets because he is clearly one of the best bowlers in the world. Your ignorant obsession with averages is amusing because you are expecting a teenager to have numbers like Wasim and Imran whilst also expecting a bowler who went on hiatus for five years to not experience a transitory period where he gets back into his groove.

That average will come down, in both tests and ODIs, Amir is only 23-24, not 30 years old like Rohit, who will be nothing more than a hack when he hangs up his boots in a couple of years. A failure in test cricket and a FTB in ODIs. Comparing him to someone with as bright a future as Amir is ridiculous.

He has a bright future but only according to you or could you give me a proof for this.
Rohit sharma has established himself as one of the best openers irrespective of whatever you think of him. He may well never be a great test batsmen but is prettty good odi batsmen and will end as an excellent odi opener provided he continues the way he is going.
As for amir he has been back for more than 1.5 years and should now be good enough to give such spells as in the match vs indiaconsistently. I have not mentioned about averages but they clearly indicate that he is not even the best in his country.
He will keep continuing his defensive bowling to prevent from being hit and occasionally bowl a good spell which makes people like you to believe that he is world class.
As of now amir is a nothing bowler in test cricket just as good as rohit sharma and a lower player than him in odis. We will see what happens in future but clearly rohit is the better player than him now

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

He has a bright future but only according to you or could you give me a proof for this.
Rohit sharma has established himself as one of the best openers irrespective of whatever you think of him. He may well never be a great test batsmen but is prettty good odi batsmen and will end as an excellent odi opener provided he continues the way he is going.
As for amir he has been back for more than 1.5 years and should now be good enough to give such spells as in the match vs indiaconsistently. I have not mentioned about averages but they clearly indicate that he is not even the best in his country.
He will keep continuing his defensive bowling to prevent from being hit and occasionally bowl a good spell which makes people like you to believe that he is world class.
As of now amir is a nothing bowler in test cricket just as good as rohit sharma and a lower player than him in odis. We will see what happens in future but clearly rohit is the better player than him now

Rohit is a premier HTB and FTB. Amir delivers on overseas pitches. There is nothing to compare here, Rohit is Amirs bunny.

Get off that hype train that Indian media love to choo choo along, make medicore players into word class superstars.

 

[Syed1]

It's nice to see some of the Indian chest thumpers finally emerging a month after the most epic phainti in modern history. Took them a month to work up the courage to show up again.

 

[Pakpak]

It's nice to see some of the Indian chest thumpers finally emerging a month after the most epic phainti in modern history. Took them a month to work up the courage to show up again.

Reminds me of Indiafan, who's still not shown his face since. Even on the day he said, and I quote, ''match winner he's not''. Everytime he bashed Amir, I remember during a PSL game too, Amir won KK the game.

Same for geraltoftrivia or whatever his name was. Who was guffawing at the fact that WE are deluded thinking Amir or Junaid can run through Indian line up. When both have now, multiple times

 

[Syed1]

Reminds me of Indiafan, who's still not shown his face since. Even on the day he said, and I quote, ''match winner he's not''. Everytime he bashed Amir, I remember during a PSL game too, Amir won KK the game.

Same for geraltoftrivia or whatever his name was. Who was guffawing at the fact that WE are deluded thinking Amir or Junaid can run through Indian line up. When both have now, multiple times

Indians ke saath saath humaray dost Mamoon bhi faraar hogaye hain

 

[Arsalan Pro]

I've said that Amir is a decent bowler, nothing special. I've also said that he relies heavily on conditions and pitches to take wickets. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he has never bowled a single good spell in his entire career on pitches which didn't have much assistance for him.

Off course he did. But those spells were few and far between. Just take jadeja for an example. He relies heavily on pitches to take take wickets. If pitch doesn't provide enough turn he usually struggles to take wickets.


But does this mean he has never run through the opposition batting lineup on batting friendly pitches? Of course not. But exception can't be an example.


I don't even know why r we even discussing so much about a player who averages over 40 outside England in Tests against top 8. His bowling figures indicates that he's quite average.

Where do you get these false stats from?RohitSharma.com.

Stop posting invalid stats to prove your absurd logic. His average isn't over 40 outside England.

BTW, Anderson is a World class bowler and he averages 34 in Tests outside England, which is close to Amir's. So is he average according to u?

Also, Ashwin who is hailed as an Indian great, averages 34 in Tests outside India. What is he?

 

[Stewie]

One perfomance and people should shut up. Wow so that means you perform once and expect people not to bring up your previous medicore or poor perfomances.
Amir before ban was a different bowler and i do not know of others but always thought him to be one with all goods to be another list in pak' s great bowling history. Although even before ban his best performances came in bowler friendly conditions he still was very good in others.
After his comeback he has hardly given match winning perfomances barring one or two occasions which is not something you expect from your best bowler or one whom you consider will go down as atg.
Yes he did perform in the big match but actually the pressure was not on him and it helped him in getting all those wickets.
One thing you quote correctly is that he is not a medium pacer but pace alone does not bring success. He has the ability to swing in helpful conditions but often ends up putting up just okayish performances on neutral or batting wickets. We will see if he goes past any of current indian bowlers but even if he does he will surely be the second or third best with one or two indian bowlers always ahead him.
And if indian bowlers ate so called fast bowlers your team bowlers must be trundlers since average speed of indian bowlers has been greater than pak.

That performance should shut up the doubters is what I meant, but I would also like to know on the basis of what facts and figures do you claim Indians Bowles will always be ahead of Aamer? I have yet to see any evidence of that high and mighty claim, their stats in tests and ODIs look very similar but Aamer is making a come back after a long break, I can only see his graph going up, with India, they usually don't even play fast bowlers, relying on spinners in tests and ODIs. How many games did shami and yadav play in the CT?
Bhumrah doesn't even play tests. Your best bet is Bhubaneswar and his and Aamer's stats are not much far apart neither are they too far apart in ICC rankings.

This is nothing we have not heard before from Indians. Aamer is slow, he wsaid not be able to bowl quick. Well he bowled quick enough consistently around 87-90.
Aamir won't be the same bowler, well he showed you guys that as well.

Now the latest criticism is he only performs in helpful conditions, lol. He run through the Indian batting in the same conditions where Pakistan scored 330 plus, at the effing OVAL of all places, can't get much bat friendly than that.


So all your idiotic theories end up with egg on your face? What s next?

He can't bowl right handed? He can't bowl with one arm tied behind his back? He can't bowl leg spin?


LMAO

 

[mak36]

That performance should shut up the doubters is what I meant, but I would also like to know on the basis of what facts and figures do you claim Indians Bowles will always be ahead of Aamer? I have yet to see any evidence of that high and mighty claim, their stats in tests and ODIs look very similar but Aamer is making a come back after a long break, I can only see his graph going up, with India, they usually don't even play fast bowlers, relying on spinners in tests and ODIs. How many games did shami and yadav play in the CT?
Bhumrah doesn't even play tests. Your best bet is Bhubaneswar and his and Aamer's stats are not much far apart neither are they too far apart in ICC rankings.

This is nothing we have not heard before from Indians. Aamer is slow, he wsaid not be able to bowl quick. Well he bowled quick enough consistently around 87-90.
Aamir won't be the same bowler, well he showed you guys that as well.

Now the latest criticism is he only performs in helpful conditions, lol. He run through the Indian batting in the same conditions where Pakistan scored 330 plus, at the effing OVAL of all places, can't get much bat friendly than that.


So all your idiotic theories end up with egg on your face? What s next?

He can't bowl right handed? He can't bowl with one arm tied behind his back? He can't bowl leg spin?


LMAO

Don't forget the fact that he can't bowl off spin either...

 

[Coconut]

Where do you get these false stats from?RohitSharma.com.

Stop posting invalid stats to prove your absurd logic. His average isn't over 40 outside England.

BTW, Anderson is a World class bowler and he averages 34 in Tests outside England, which is close to Amir's. So is he average according to u?

Also, Ashwin who is hailed as an Indian great, averages 34 in Tests outside India. What is he?

Yes, truth hurts, I know, I know. But that doesn't change the fact that Amir averages almost 42 with the ball in Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and UAE.

His average improves slightly if we include minnow westindies as the host nation. But West India is a nobody in Test Cricket. I think even Stuart binny will take fifers for fun against this minnow side.

Remember, we r talking about whether Overhyped Amir is a world class bowler or not? And, these stats have proven that he's an ordinary, average bowler when he doesn't get substantial assistance from the pitch.

 

[czar]

That performance should shut up the doubters is what I meant, but I would also like to know on the basis of what facts and figures do you claim Indians Bowles will always be ahead of Aamer? I have yet to see any evidence of that high and mighty claim, their stats in tests and ODIs look very similar but Aamer is making a come back after a long break, I can only see his graph going up, with India, they usually don't even play fast bowlers, relying on spinners in tests and ODIs. How many games did shami and yadav play in the CT?
Bhumrah doesn't even play tests. Your best bet is Bhubaneswar and his and Aamer's stats are not much far apart neither are they too far apart in ICC rankings.

This is nothing we have not heard before from Indians. Aamer is slow, he wsaid not be able to bowl quick. Well he bowled quick enough consistently around 87-90.
Aamir won't be the same bowler, well he showed you guys that as well.

Now the latest criticism is he only performs in helpful conditions, lol. He run through the Indian batting in the same conditions where Pakistan scored 330 plus, at the effing OVAL of all places, can't get much bat friendly than that.


So all your idiotic theories end up with egg on your face? What s next?

He can't bowl right handed? He can't bowl with one arm tied behind his back? He can't bowl leg spin?


LMAO

Average of 32 in Test Cricket, that's pathetic whichever way you try to twist it.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Yes, truth hurts, I know, I know. But that doesn't change the fact that Amir averages almost 42 with the ball in Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and UAE.

His average improves slightly if we include minnow westindies as the host nation. But West India is a nobody in Test Cricket. I think even Stuart binny will take fifers for fun against this minnow side.

Remember, we r talking about whether Overhyped Amir is a world class bowler or not? And, these stats have proven that he's an ordinary, average bowler when he doesn't get substantial assistance from the pitch.

What "helpful" conditions were present in the Champions Trophy Final 2017? Also the World T20 Final? Your making assumptions, in the end the guy is still finding his feet his test cricket. ODI and T20 cricket he is improving greatly. Give him time.

The guy just last year came back after nearly a 6 year ban and was still almost our best bowler. Stop nit picking stats and look at the bigger picture. No bowler is an overnight prodigy.

 

[Stewie]

Average of 32 in Test Cricket, that's pathetic whichever way you try to twist it.

The best fast bowler India ever produced has a bowling average of nearly 30, that too when he bowled in the era of uncovered pitches. Which Indian fast bowler do you compare him with and think has a better test average? Anil Kumble perhaps? Oh no wait.. another one close to 30 average in tests. Lmao

 

[Rayyman]

Average of 32 in Test Cricket, that's pathetic whichever way you try to twist it.

Lmao Tim Southee averages 32. Is he pathetic?

It's funny how you Indians insult our bowlers.

Fun fact: The best bowling figures in IPL history are by a Pakistani.

 

[Stewie]

Kapil dev... bowling test average 29. Something .. same for Kumble.

Yadav. Nearly 36
Bhubi kumar.. 29.88
Shami 32.60
Srinath over 30..
Indian specialist test fast bowler ishat Sharma: nearly 40

Let us see who else is left? All time Indian greats pacers and current Indian pacers have averages slight better or worse than Aamir.. and yet the claim Indian bowlers will always be better than him.. I do t get where these delusions of grandeur come from!!

 

[Stewie]

Varun aaron.. test bowling average of 52. Something. Wow that's worse than Sami..


Let's see Indian spinners are the best bowlers.. so maybe they have better averages. Kumble is only three runs better. Ashwin and Jadeja are the only two who are in low to mid twenties but all others even their historic bedi, chandrasekhar, prasanna are in high 20s and 30s.

And the funniest thing is Indians
Themselves claim ashwin is a nothing bowler on tracks that don't turn.


And yet PPers here claim Aamer only performs well under helpful conditions.

Well I don't mind that either as long his average keeps improving.

 

[NoBallZombie]

Lets assume for a moment that Amir performs ONLY on swinging wickets, and by that reason alone he is mediocre, with the same logic the famed Indian batting lineup also performs mostly on flat tracks and the Indian bowling is even worse. Is that correct? That makes the whole Indian team pretty mediocre.

Someone pointed out Bhuvi is miles ahead and fizz is second place, i really think they need to come out of their bubble. Ask an Aussie if they would like those two in their team or Amir. We all know the answer to that.

Anyways it is good to see Indians (with the odd Bengali trolls) come out of their shell and back to their delusional selves again. Two stats to remember for the next two years for you guys : 1. 180 , 2. 73-52 ..... that is all that matters. Few years from now no one would even remember the current indian bowlers but would still be seeing Amir getting accolades.

 

[Teshi98]

That performance should shut up the doubters is what I meant, but I would also like to know on the basis of what facts and figures do you claim Indians Bowles will always be ahead of Aamer? I have yet to see any evidence of that high and mighty claim, their stats in tests and ODIs look very similar but Aamer is making a come back after a long break, I can only see his graph going up, with India, they usually don't even play fast bowlers, relying on spinners in tests and ODIs. How many games did shami and yadav play in the CT?
Bhumrah doesn't even play tests. Your best bet is Bhubaneswar and his and Aamer's stats are not much far apart neither are they too far apart in ICC rankings.

This is nothing we have not heard before from Indians. Aamer is slow, he wsaid not be able to bowl quick. Well he bowled quick enough consistently around 87-90.
Aamir won't be the same bowler, well he showed you guys that as well.

Now the latest criticism is he only performs in helpful conditions, lol. He run through the Indian batting in the same conditions where Pakistan scored 330 plus, at the effing OVAL of all places, can't get much bat friendly than that.


So all your idiotic theories end up with egg on your face? What s next?

He can't bowl right handed? He can't bowl with one arm tied behind his back? He can't bowl leg spin?


LMAO

Well i make my claim that indians will be better bowlers than him using the same theory you use to say amir is or will be world class. Again why should one good performance be enough for doubters to stop doubting him when he has failed more often than not. You may choose to ignore it but you also know that more than anything else it was scoreboard pressure in the match along with pressure due to it being a icc tournament final.
Also amir has hardly shown signs of improvement except for some innings and thus his average will rather increase than decrease. As i have already said he had everything to be a great bowler before his ban but now he can not be the same bowler anymore.

 

[NoBallZombie]

He has a bright future but only according to you or could you give me a proof for this.
Rohit sharma has established himself as one of the best openers irrespective of whatever you think of him. He may well never be a great test batsmen but is prettty good odi batsmen and will end as an excellent odi opener provided he continues the way he is going.
As for amir he has been back for more than 1.5 years and should now be good enough to give such spells as in the match vs indiaconsistently. I have not mentioned about averages but they clearly indicate that he is not even the best in his country.
He will keep continuing his defensive bowling to prevent from being hit and occasionally bowl a good spell which makes people like you to believe that he is world class.
As of now amir is a nothing bowler in test cricket just as good as rohit sharma and a lower player than him in odis. We will see what happens in future but clearly rohit is the better player than him now

One of the best openers where? In his neighbourhood? He is not even one of the best in India.

As far as being a nothing bowler, i think you should watch our matches instead of relying on your media outlets. He has bowled well ever since his comeback and has been unlucky on a lot of occasions. Long after sharma, amir would be remembered. Sharma is only in the team because kohli favors him for some reason.

 

[NoBallZombie]

Well i make my claim that indians will be better bowlers than him using the same theory you use to say amir is or will be world class. Again why should one good performance be enough for doubters to stop doubting him when he has failed more often than not. You may choose to ignore it but you also know that more than anything else it was scoreboard pressure in the match along with pressure due to it being a icc tournament final.
Also amir has hardly shown signs of improvement except for some innings and thus his average will rather increase than decrease. As i have already said he had everything to be a great bowler before his ban but now he can not be the same bowler anymore.

Just like the awesome indian attack uses scoreboard pressure most of the time?

 

[Teshi98]

Lets assume for a moment that Amir performs ONLY on swinging wickets, and by that reason alone he is mediocre, with the same logic the famed Indian batting lineup also performs mostly on flat tracks and the Indian bowling is even worse. Is that correct? That makes the whole Indian team pretty mediocre.

Someone pointed out Bhuvi is miles ahead and fizz is second place, i really think they need to come out of their bubble. Ask an Aussie if they would like those two in their team or Amir. We all know the answer to that.

Anyways it is good to see Indians (with the odd Bengali trolls) come out of their shell and back to their delusional selves again. Two stats to remember for the next two years for you guys : 1. 180 , 2. 73-52 ..... that is all that matters. Few years from now no one would even remember the current indian bowlers but would still be seeing Amir getting accolades.

Indian bowling is pretty much at same level as that of pak currently. You will find out this pretty soon when you play next. The pak bowlers just had some good form and all of them bowled well together in ct which led you to victory.
Apart from hasan and maybe shadab you do not have any great bowling prospect coming up.
Obviously for you only 73-52 will matter but when someone hails indians for excellent performances in bilaterals i wonder why do they suddenly become useless.
180 should also matter a lot since it is one of few victories you have against us in icc events.
Well if you can consider indian batting line up medicore then no batting line up in world is good enough.
We will see what happens in few years whether amir will get accolades or PPers will be making threada on how he was the greatedt bowling talent of all times who could not beecome great due to team politics dropped catches and other excuses you often come up with

 

[Teshi98]

One of the best openers where? In his neighbourhood? He is not even one of the best in India.

As far as being a nothing bowler, i think you should watch our matches instead of relying on your media outlets. He has bowled well ever since his comeback and has been unlucky on a lot of occasions. Long after sharma, amir would be remembered. Sharma is only in the team because kohli favors him for some reason.

I have even watched him bowl in west indies and as far media is concerned they have much more to report than talking about amir.
You always see him bowling good for first three overs after which he becomes pretty easy to handle. Also he is not a great exponent of reverse swing. You can say a bowler can be unlucky in match or series but when he is forever unlucky there must be something wrong.
Yah he is surely best in neighbourhood where all other asian openers are no match to him.
Kohli can be reason behind his test inclusion but is one of first names in odi team and can walk in as an opener in any side.

 

[NoBallZombie]

Indian bowling is pretty much at same level as that of pak currently. You will find out this pretty soon when you play next. The pak bowlers just had some good form and all of them bowled well together in ct which led you to victory.
Apart from hasan and maybe shadab you do not have any great bowling prospect coming up.
Obviously for you only 73-52 will matter but when someone hails indians for excellent performances in bilaterals i wonder why do they suddenly become useless.
180 should also matter a lot since it is one of few victories you have against us in icc events.
Well if you can consider indian batting line up medicore then no batting line up in world is good enough.
We will see what happens in few years whether amir will get accolades or PPers will be making threada on how he was the greatedt bowling talent of all times who could not beecome great due to team politics dropped catches and other excuses you often come up with

Do you even remember the last bilateral series?
Do you remember where it was held?
Do you remember the result?

To claim Indian bowling is at the same level as Paks is pure delusion, just like it would be us claiming our batting is close to yours. Yes we will find out when you next play us in a bilateral.

 

[Stewie]

If Indian fast bowlers were worth their salt, Indians won't have such an abysmal away test record. They can win tests st home on custom made wickets for their spinners but completely crap their pants when they have to bowl away to take 20 wickets in a test, on wickets that don't suit their spinners.

hiw many times have Indian fast bowlers won man of the match awards in tests in recent history?

 

[troodon]

If Indian fast bowlers were worth their salt, Indians won't have such an abysmal away test record. They can win tests st home on custom made wickets for their spinners but completely crap their pants when they have to bowl away to take 20 wickets in a test, on wickets that don't suit their spinners.

hiw many times have Indian fast bowlers won man of the match awards in tests in recent history?

Shami + BK + Yadav are excellent Test bowlers.

BK and Yadav won us the series against WI just an year ago. Of course, India have not toured big countires in a while. So we have to wait and see how this improved Yadav + BK + Shami perform.

 

[Teshi98]

If Indian fast bowlers were worth their salt, Indians won't have such an abysmal away test record. They can win tests st home on custom made wickets for their spinners but completely crap their pants when they have to bowl away to take 20 wickets in a test, on wickets that don't suit their spinners.

hiw many times have Indian fast bowlers won man of the match awards in tests in recent history?

If you are talking about present you must remember your fast bowlers have been worse than indians in tests. The two test matches you won in england came due to more of yasir shah's efforts than your hyped and non performing fast bowlers. Even in west indies your fast bowlers could not show great performances.
It is so funny that before raising questions on our fast bowlers you forget that your pacers have themselves not given any such performances

 

[Stewie]

You should really look at the scorecards of those games and see how many wickets did aamir and abbas take. Yasir is just a magnificent bowler, best leggie in the world at the moment and its natural on West Indian wickets he took wickets.. when was the last time Indian pacers wickets tally exceeded the spinners?

You guys win test matches on turners with Jadeja and ashwin. Your pacers are like salad dressing, that's all.

Go on compare wickets tally then we can talk. Or I'll do it for you when I have time.

 

[Sachin136]

You should really look at the scorecards of those games and see how many wickets did aamir and abbas take. Yasir is just a magnificent bowler, best leggie in the world at the moment and its natural on West Indian wickets he took wickets.. when was the last time Indian pacers wickets tally exceeded the spinners?

You guys win test matches on turners with Jadeja and ashwin. Your pacers are like salad dressing, that's all.

Go on compare wickets tally then we can talk. Or I'll do it for you when I have time.

A small clarification, there were around 2 "turners" in India's last 20 home matches.

There is nothing wrong with two of the world's best spinners outbowling the pacers. That doesn't mean the fast bowlers are weak. But many times the pacers have given crucial breakthroughs at the top, allowing Ashwin and Jadeja to finish it off.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Indians have finally found the courage to come out that hole they were pushed into after the CT. Stage one of five stages of grief in full flow now. Have some shame for God's sake lol. You got tonked around by West Indies of all teams where they emphatically chased down close to 200 I believe in a T20. You got smacked by Pakistan for the highest total in a CT final. How do you people have the gall to question any bowler in ODI cricket right now, let the alone the one that won Pakistan a final against you recently?

 

[Stewie]

A small clarification, there were around 2 "turners" in India's last 20 home matches.

There is nothing wrong with two of the world's best spinners outbowling the pacers. That doesn't mean the fast bowlers are weak. But many times the pacers have given crucial breakthroughs at the top, allowing Ashwin and Jadeja to finish it off.

Right! And you must be the chief technical officer of International Association for Assessing Turning Quotient of Cricket Pitches?

What happened? Parshotam been watering the pitches in India a bit too much in the last few years? What a load of rubbish? Pitches in India turn from day 1 in tests and I remember Dhoni would still whine after the days play that pitche was not assisting spinners

 

[Stewie]

There is nothing in cricket that can be confidently called a tailor-made pitch

CAPTAIN Cool is not so cool, after all. These days, you can see volcanic fumes shoot out of his ears as Mahendra Singh Dhoni does a fair imitation of an old broken record.

“I want the pitch to turn from the first ball on the first day. I want the pitch to turn square from day one.’’

Dhoni’s mantra for an Indian revival is so tiresomely repetitive that many cricket lovers may have simply chosen to ignore it — as a well-meaning parent would in face of repeated requests for chocolates from the little one.

It does appear that Dhoni does not want a turner as the icing on the cake but as the whole cake itself!A trained psychologist will see Dhoni’s tantrum for what it is. Members of our species have an innate tendency to mistake repetition for truth. In psychological parlance, it is called the “illusion of truth effect.”

Dhoni surely believes that by picking ideas to fit his preconceptions and then repeating them tirelessly while cleverly manipulating the media and using them as he pleases, he can get what he wants.

Then again, seemingly reasonable demands are quite often based on unreasonable foundations and Dhoni’s prescription to cure the ills of the Indian side at home would certainly belong to this category.

A man who has been celebrated for his grace under pressure and toasted as a natural while donning the leadership hat, has suddenly offered us a peek into his other side, a facet of his personality that was well hidden from public view as long as his luck held and India climbed to the No.1 ranking in Test cricket.

Unforgiving business

But professional sport is an unforgiving business in the long run and even the most resourceful and fortunate of men find themselves stripped bare in its harsh glare. In the event, in Dhoni’s case, there have been quite a few character-revealing moments in the last few weeks even as his team’s form has dipped precipitously.

To be sure, leading the Indian cricket team is among the most challenging tasks in the world of sport today. It is a lot like walking a tightrope without a net below. As a great philosopher said of life itself, in a strictly intellectual context, “a buffoon may be fatal to it.”

Yet it does have its perks as no doubt Dhoni realised — as long as the honeymoon lasted. Then, one after the other, some of the giants of Indian cricket — among them Rahul Dravid and V.V.S. Laxman — left the stage and, sooner than you might have expected, Captain Cool found himself in a not-so-cool business.

Even before their departure, eight successive overseas defeats — four against Australia and four against England — might have done a bit of damage to Dhoni’s much-celebrated self-confidence. But that cannot be the only reason why he should find himself in such a pitiable situation today.

Curator targeted

Eden Gardens’ veteran curator, Prabir Mukherjee, a self-respecting senior who has taught many younger curators quite a few valuable lessons in the art of pitch preparation, found himself being targeted by Dhoni.

The Indian captain is such a hugely influential figure in the corridors of power that the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) found itself swallowing its pride and dashing off an email to the Cricket Association of Bengal in an attempt to please Dhoni.

Mukherjee, not one to take such insults lying down, promptly threatened to apply for a month’s medical leave from his job just to make sure that all of us know that he was not bowing to pressure from above, although he did decide to stick to his post later.

Come Friday, Dhoni might have his way. But who can guarantee that a vicious snake-pit would help his side go ahead in the four-Test series? After all, Panesar and Swann did exactly what was expected of Ashwin, Ojha and Harbhajan as England brought up a famous victory in Mumbai to level the series.

Bitter truth

The bitter truth is this. Whatever you may think your team’s strengths are, there is nothing in cricket that can be confidently called a tailor-made pitch. An under-prepared surface can blow up in your face as often as it can turn hostile when the visiting batsmen are at the crease.

The better team may not always be successful, but it will win more often than not, whatever the conditions. Clive Lloyd’s West Indians, in this columnist’s view the greatest team ever to play Test cricket — even better than Don Bradman’s Invincibles — did their job with four fast bowlers wherever they played. They did not need a typical Perth wicket to prove themselves superior.

Dhoni may not have the resources that Lloyd commanded. But that is no reason to become a cry-baby and petulantly demand that a Test match — expected to be decided over five exciting and nerve-wracking days — should, instead, be played on a nightmarish strip that is likely to fast-track a match to its conclusion in the span of three days.

Little wonder then, Mukherjee chose to slam this tactic as “immoral,” in an interview with CNN-IBN. He believes that such a move would leave the spectators short-changed; and he is right.

Fair cricket. To those familiar with the great game and its much-cherished culture, this might sound like an oxymoron. But that is what is in demand in India today.

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/nirmal_shekar/pitching-for-fair-cricket/article4154396.ece

 

[Surf]

Amir took all the wickets of 3 of the best batsmen and highest scorers of this Champions Trophy and the last edition. Rohit, Kohli, and Dhawan were the best batsmen and highest scorers for this edition and the last and the same ones who won India the trophy last time around including Dhawan wining the Man of The Series and Best Batsmen awards respectively.

 

[troodon]

Indians have finally found the courage to come out that hole they were pushed into after the CT. Stage one of five stages of grief in full flow now. Have some shame for God's sake lol. You got tonked around by West Indies of all teams where they emphatically chased down close to 200 I believe in a T20. You got smacked by Pakistan for the highest total in a CT final. How do you people have the gall to question any bowler in ODI cricket right now, let the alone the one that won Pakistan a final against you recently?

Chadda Saab is getting too excited.

We battered WI in ODI's. Lewis seems to own in T20's.

It is obvious for us fans that Ashwin should stick to Test cricket. Kuldeep is the way to go. But our selectors cannot see that. Ashwin is still playing LOI.

Coming to Pak, my my. What can one victory do to bring out the hatred. Just about a week before finals India beat Pakistan the exact same way. No one bumped this thread then. It's funny how such threads get bumped after one win over India.

 

[Stewie]

Chadda Saab is getting too excited.

We battered WI in ODI's. Lewis seems to own in T20's.

It is obvious for us fans that Ashwin should stick to Test cricket. Kuldeep is the way to go. But our selectors cannot see that. Ashwin is still playing LOI.

Coming to Pak, my my. What can one victory do to bring out the hatred. Just about a week before finals India beat Pakistan the exact same way. No one bumped this thread then. It's funny how such threads get bumped after one win over India.

I dunno about hatred, this was more about the loud slap or egg in the face of rigor sharma after his claim and show of disrespect that prompted this thread. He got pwned, that's all..

 

[Teshi98]

I dunno about hatred, this was more about the loud slap or egg in the face of rigor sharma after his claim and show of disrespect that prompted this thread. He got pwned, that's all.. ��

There was no disrespect whatsoever. He just said that he does not think that people should talk about amir so much as he does not see him as a great bowler especially just after one performance as it was said after asia cup match.
His words have been true as he has hardly given any other great performance except in this match for which you might keep chest thumping for long time till he again gives a decent enough performance to be talked about

 

[Pakistanian]

lol he got owned so bad.

 

[Usman Chadda]

There was no disrespect whatsoever. He just said that he does not think that people should talk about amir so much as he does not see him as a great bowler especially just after one performance as it was said after asia cup match.
His words have been true as he has hardly given any other great performance except in this match for which you might keep chest thumping for long time till he again gives a decent enough performance to be talked about

Amir ripped India's heart out and stomped on it in a big final in the second most important tourney in ODI cricket. Think that's fair enough ammo for chest-beating yeah?

Food for thought, few bowlers have delivered such match defining performances. Zero Indians in history so far.

 

[Sadevdesai]

He could have said it in a slightly civilized way, but I think, he just wanted to throw some fat in the fire !!!!

 

[Sherlock]

I've learnt to ignore trolls on this board, especially those that spout absolute BS to cater for their own obsession and views. There's a reason why we have "block user" button in profiles.

Also the couple of trolls we have here will be banned sooner or later because they don't add much to the conversation, barring false facts and idiotic theories.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

So far 3-1 to Amir

Amir: Asia cup 2016, WT20 2016, CT 2017 Final

Rohit: CT Group stage

Round 4 at the Asia cup 2018

 

[babajee]

Mohammad Amir and Hasan Ali are the best limited overs bowlers in the world.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Mohammad Amir and Hasan Ali are the best limited overs bowlers in the world.

Starc, Hazlewood, cummins are better.

 

[InziRules]

Starc, Hazlewood, cummins are better.

Come back when Cummins plays a series without being injured

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That was an embarrassing statement by Rohit because Amir was the one who took his wicket in the end and had the last laugh.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Wrong choice of words Mr. Sharma

 

[Minnowbasher]

Starc, Hazlewood, cummins are better.

Starc and Hazelwood are overrated in lois. I can't remember a match winning performance from them in atleast a year.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Starc and Hazelwood are overrated in lois. I can't remember a match winning performance from them in atleast a year.

Starc is the best odi bowler he isn't overrated.
Yes he hasn't played much odis in 2018 but it doesn't mean he is trash.
He won his team a world cup.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Come back when Cummins plays a series without being injured

So basically u are saying that amir, hassan are better if we ignore these aussies.
They will be back by the tine of wc.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Wrong choice of words Mr. Sharma

He must have been baited with a trick question.

Anyways, Amir vs Indian top order is a fascinating contest.

Such a pity that thuggish BCCI do not want this series to happen. Heck, India would most probably win it. But I'd still pay money for it....

 

[Sam99]

I think during that time there were alot hype and comparisions of him with wasim so ofcourse even i would think this way but i won't tell this in public.

 

[UN talkz]

Starc is the best odi bowler he isn't overrated.
Yes he hasn't played much odis in 2018 but it doesn't mean he is trash.
He won his team a world cup.

Trent Boult is much better bowler than him, he has taken wickets everywhere and most importantly he doesn't get injured after one match.

 

[UN talkz]

Mohammad Amir and Hasan Ali are the best limited overs bowlers in the world.

Usman is better than Amir

 

[babajee]

Starc, Hazlewood, cummins are better.

Cummins has done nothing.

 

[babajee]

Usman is better than Amir

Only at taking wickets

 

[Abdul]

Only a useless bowler like Amir would go wicketless against Zimbabwe.

 

[Mamoon]

Rohit might be Amir’s bunny, but he is a greater cricketer than Amir ever will be, and doesn’t have the stain of selling his country either.

No one would want to be Amir over Rohit, probably not even Amir himself.

 

[Plumb]

The moment Amir don't take wickets all the haters come out of their holes.... Ironic

Amir over anyone any day. He is big match player who won Pakistan tournaments

 

[Khan12]

Rohit might be Amir’s bunny, but he is a greater cricketer than Amir ever will be, and doesn’t have the stain of selling his country either.

No one would want to be Amir over Rohit, probably not even Amir himself.

For indian fans definitely but for pakistani fans we would take amir over him any day.