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"I feel the improvements and am definitely a better batsman than before" : Asif Ali

Great.

Another comedic and foolish response.

Tell me Mamoon, how come 80-90% of commentators including Ian Bishop and Scott Styris etc consider Asif Ali an important asset in T20s?

Besides Pandiya and Pollard, who else can hit 90+ meter sixes without effort?

That in itself is a rare talent and Pakistan had searched for this type of player for a very long time.

What are your credentials besides being a glorified keyboard warrior to continuously harass our players especially when its unwarranted?


Look at the way he bats. Need stats to back ur theory, he is been given enough games which shouldn’t have happened

Even in domestics his stats are pretty bad. Batting is beyond hitting 1-2 sixes a match.
 
Case in point - Haris Rauf - he was a tape ball bowler, and then a net bowler, then BBL, then now. I would say he is as skilled as any in T20s.

he has markedly improved his fielding also.

That needs to happen - especuially players like Khushdil and Haider Ali.

They just need to play more cricket in challenging situations along with Asif Ali.

infact Asif Ali should continue to play 4-day cricket and first class cricket so he can develop temperament and skills to bat long and learn some defense. This will make him a better T20 cricketer overall.



Correct players who improve and come up the ladder should be backed, no doubt.

Haris rightly so, but Khusdil, Asif equally given enough chances but not improving. Atleast Asif is nowhere near any scale of improvement, gets out the same shot same way umpteenth times
 
Its about opportunity. Look at where Fakhar bats vs where Asif bats.

Look at the presusure situations they have to face. Asif Ali ALWAYS comes under pressure.

Hassan Ali is the greatest 12th man I have seen. He really needs to stay out of the team.

When Shaheen returns, he will take Hasnani's spot and we will have a pace attack of Rauf, Naseem and Shaheen with Dahani as back up.

Thats the merit based and appropriate bowling attack.

Unless and until you can find a replacement for Asif Ali, dont mess with him.


Secondly, people who keep saying "there is no talent in Pakistan" are foolish. What is talent? Talent is nothing. Hard work and skill development is the main thing.

That is why SL and Australia and NZ despite having a much smaller pool of players are able to create effective cricketers.

For instance, Rajapaksa's mother did not give him birth with a bat and said here you go son - youre talented. He is a product and most importantly, he has taken responsibility to work on his game.

Thats what needs to happen.

I am a firm believer of all Pakistan players going to BBL to play - thats the only league I would send our players simply so they can learn on bouncy pitches and get used to big grounds.

This is all about management of players. The talent is there.

It would be incorrect to say "we lack talent".

The issue is far more nuanced.

Need to earn to bat higher up the order, do it in domestics first

Management doesn’t have any confidence in him to even send him above Nawaz, Khusdil and Ifthikar

There are number of replacements available, just dump Asif to gully cricket forever..
 
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Its about opportunity. Look at where Fakhar bats vs where Asif bats.

Look at the presusure situations they have to face. Asif Ali ALWAYS comes under pressure.

Hassan Ali is the greatest 12th man I have seen. He really needs to stay out of the team.

When Shaheen returns, he will take Hasnani's spot and we will have a pace attack of Rauf, Naseem and Shaheen with Dahani as back up.

Thats the merit based and appropriate bowling attack.

Unless and until you can find a replacement for Asif Ali, dont mess with him.


Secondly, people who keep saying "there is no talent in Pakistan" are foolish. What is talent? Talent is nothing. Hard work and skill development is the main thing.

That is why SL and Australia and NZ despite having a much smaller pool of players are able to create effective cricketers.

For instance, Rajapaksa's mother did not give him birth with a bat and said here you go son - youre talented. He is a product and most importantly, he has taken responsibility to work on his game.

Thats what needs to happen.

I am a firm believer of all Pakistan players going to BBL to play - thats the only league I would send our players simply so they can learn on bouncy pitches and get used to big grounds.

This is all about management of players. The talent is there.

It would be incorrect to say "we lack talent".

The issue is far more nuanced.

Atleast Ifthikar can be categorised as a batsman , Asif ali and Khusdil are not batters first of all in terms of international cricket.

They are just a product of street cricket played with tape ball and without any gears.
 
5 off 4 he was not out.

0 vs Aus, came in the 18th over. Pakistan had Malik, Hafeez, Shadab and Imad still to come in. If he was a selfish player, he would’ve scored 12 off 11 balls, instead he tried to go big to help Pakistan get a decent total. It wouldn’t have mattered if he got out because we had wickets in hand.

Apart from the 21 off 7, he had a poor series against WI.

Here’s where I stand on Asif Ali. He’s not going to win you every game, nor should he. I can’t remember the last time one of the top 3 took Pakistan over the finishing line since the WT20, since 2 of them are meant to play as “anchors”.

Asif Ali could very easily do what Rizwan, Babar and Ifthikar do, going at a run a ball whilst everyone else around him take risks.

He’s a game changer, he’s not going to be consistent, he’s going to win you 2 out 5 games, but what Babar and Rizwan expect from him is just unrealistic. They both play their wee selfish little innings, get to their 50’s, throw their wicket away and leave the team in a big hole. Just because he won you a game from a previous game from a difficult position it doesn’t mean he’ll do it every single game. That’s what Babar and Rizwan expect. They expert him to come in the 16th over and chase 40+ off the last 3-4 overs every single game. They’re putting too much faith into their lower order, it’s time they step up and take risks.

Well except that 2 matches in last WC he didn’t win anything else to showcase

True no body can win every game but his sample size is too low lol. 2 out of 20 games.

It looks like you are happy that Pak wins 2 out of 20 games.
 
No one in domestic averages 170+ strike rate.

In domestics even Khurram Mansoor looks like a flamboyant opener, but in international cricket ppl will laugh at his batting skills. Not any TDH should be playing for national side with poor track record and keep in failing to score runs for the team.

Chuck these hitters and play proper batsman with SR 130+
 
He has no shame if he gets out for a golden duck if he knows he has to go from ball 1. Selfless player who has improved drastically in the field as well.

Love this guy! His hits seem effortless

He does need to improve his batting against spin though. One of the players PSL has helped developed.
 
No one’s asked him to put on Bradman-esque numbers. But it isn’t too much of an ask for him to demonstrate *some* game awareness. He has a habit of trying to hit out straight away. Against SL, he could have taken a couple of balls before he started going big. How many times have we seen him get caught in the first three balls he faces? This is an experienced international at this point.

I fully expect him to go the Aus because the cupboard is bare. But post WC, we’re better off taking a young prospect and giving him a long run in the role, because that way that lad can atleast develop in the role.

You're out of your mind if you think a "a young prospect" or really anybody can do any better than Asif Ali in that role.

Maybe you started watching cricket yesterday but expecting a "young prospect" to walk into a high-pressure World Cup situation and just do well is one of the most utterly ludicrous opinions anyone has ever had on this forum.

Facts are facts, no one has won us more games in the finisher position than Asif Ali in the last year. Despite all his flaws, he is a genuine match-winner who can win you matches and has won you matches in what is one of the most difficult positions to bat in T20 cricket.

Expecting him to have even a decent average is nonsensical. He will always fail far more than he will succeed. That's just the nature of that position. Which is what makes batting there so difficult as well, and something very few people can do with even a low probability of success.
 
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You mean he goes back to the hut from ball one? His walk to the middle then back again is longer than his stay at the batting crease.

We have to accept that he is not a guy who is going to stay on the crease for more than 30 deliveries (by stretch). Do we have any other batter who can come in to bat around the 15th over and score a 20-25 at a SR or 170+. The only other person who has that ability is Hasan Ali. That's why he should only be sent in after the 15 overs. It's also the role India have highlighted for Dinesh Karthik. We have enough allrounders to afford a slogger in the lineup at no.7. It's only for t20is.
 
Look at the way he bats. Need stats to back ur theory, he is been given enough games which shouldn’t have happened

Even in domestics his stats are pretty bad. Batting is beyond hitting 1-2 sixes a match.
Stats cannot be applied to impact players.

You cannot compare Babar azam to asif ali. One plays 50 balls other plays 5-15

In order to have comparable stats, the metrics of comparison need to be same, which we cannot

Yes you can compare him to other #6 or #7 finishers in t20. List all all arounders like pandya pollard etc. however we don’t have an all rounder with that hitting ability so we are playing a specialist hitter. We have two spinning allrounders

Our team composition is different
 
Correct players who improve and come up the ladder should be backed, no doubt.

Haris rightly so, but Khusdil, Asif equally given enough chances but not improving. Atleast Asif is nowhere near any scale of improvement, gets out the same shot same way umpteenth times
Asif single handedly won two games in wc t20 last year and then definitely the game against india this year

Look, not all games are equal

All three of these were high pressure games!!

The guy can handle pressure more than most. Yes he’s not perfect but you can’t expect him to win you every match and cover for poor batting done by top order
 
You're out of your mind if you think a "a young prospect" or really anybody can do any better than Asif Ali in that role.

Maybe you started watching cricket yesterday but expecting a "young prospect" to walk into a high-pressure World Cup situation and just do well is one of the most utterly ludicrous opinions anyone has ever had on this forum.

Facts are facts, no one has won us more games in the finisher position than Asif Ali in the last year. Despite all his flaws, he is a genuine match-winner who can win you matches and has won you matches in what is one of the most difficult positions to bat in T20 cricket.

Expecting him to have even a decent average is nonsensical. He will always fail far more than he will succeed. That's just the nature of that position. Which is what makes batting there so difficult as well, and something very few people can do with even a low probability of success.

Wow, you seem quite gotten to over a cricket opinion. Had you read my post with greater attention to detail, I’ve intimated that he will go to the World Cup, but must be improved upon in the long term.

I mentioned how he could get more of a feel before he starts going big. There’s a reason why the think tank send the likes of Nawaz and at times Shadab before him. It’s because he can’t be trusted when to go big because he invariably gets out too soon. It’s about assessing the situation and hitting in a variety of areas.

The object is to continually improve the team, and rather than eternally persisting with an Asif Ali who’ll perform as expected, better (in the future) to invest in a youngster who can developed.
 
Wow, you seem quite gotten to over a cricket opinion. Had you read my post with greater attention to detail, I’ve intimated that he will go to the World Cup, but must be improved upon in the long term.

I mentioned how he could get more of a feel before he starts going big. There’s a reason why the think tank send the likes of Nawaz and at times Shadab before him. It’s because he can’t be trusted when to go big because he invariably gets out too soon. It’s about assessing the situation and hitting in a variety of areas.

The object is to continually improve the team, and rather than eternally persisting with an Asif Ali who’ll perform as expected, better (in the future) to invest in a youngster who can developed.

I read what you said loud and clear. You are talking in truisms and stating the obvious for which I care very little about. Yeah, I too want world peace and the end of human suffering, Doesn't mean it is a realistic thing that'll happen anytime soon, if ever.

The position that Asif Ali plays in, he CANNOT get more of a feel. This is a guy who is coming in with 3 overs to spare. There is only one way to bat in a situation like this.

Also, there is a reason why he is batting there. And it has less to do with the team not trusting him than it has to do with his strengths and what he brings to the table. One stat that I have mentioned far too many times here is that Asif Ali has a SR of 189 in the death-overs (second highest in the world). He also strikes at 150+ against bowling over 140 kph. These two stats tell you that there is no other position for him to bat but 6/7.

Asif Ali is a bits and pieces player who will probably never even be successful at ODI cricket. But that's okay because T20 cricket is a format that is made for bits and pieces players.

It's all about how smart YOU ARE in maximizing those bits and pieces.
 
I find it frustrating and ridiculous that the likes of Khusdil and Asif Ali are going to be scapegoated for the selfish batting of Babar, Rizwan, Iftikhar, Fakhar.

UAE conditions are not the type where you can strike from ball one. Too many players in the team are playing for themselves at the expense of the team.
 
I read what you said loud and clear. You are talking in truisms and stating the obvious for which I care very little about. Yeah, I too want world peace and the end of human suffering, Doesn't mean it is a realistic thing that'll happen anytime soon, if ever.

The position that Asif Ali plays in, he CANNOT get more of a feel. This is a guy who is coming in with 3 overs to spare. There is only one way to bat in a situation like this.

Also, there is a reason why he is batting there. And it has less to do with the team not trusting him than it has to do with his strengths and what he brings to the table. One stat that I have mentioned far too many times here is that Asif Ali has a SR of 189 in the death-overs (second highest in the world). He also strikes at 150+ against bowling over 140 kph. These two stats tell you that there is no other position for him to bat but 6/7.

Asif Ali is a bits and pieces player who will probably never even be successful at ODI cricket. But that's okay because T20 cricket is a format that is made for bits and pieces players.

It's all about how smart YOU ARE in maximizing those bits and pieces.

Absolute top post.
I'd go further and suggest that every batter, just like Asif, is given 3 overs to go helter-skelter.
No anchoring.
Just go and blast it for 12 to 18 balls each.
Hell, its only 20 overs and at least 7/8 players who can bat, so why not?
 
You can bet your house that if Khushdil comes in with 6 balls remaining in an innings, he will take 3 balls to get a feel of the wicket
 
You can bet your house that if Khushdil comes in with 6 balls remaining in an innings, he will take 3 balls to get a feel of the wicket

If players gets a feel for 3 balls and then hits the next three for 4, it’s still 12 of 6, I.e. a 200 s/r. Khushdil unfortunately hasn’t done the 2nd part against top opposition, but the approach itself can work. You just need a rounded batsmen who backs himself. And can play a wide variety of shots. I thought Hafeez was a great example of someone who greatly improved his power hitting by widening his base.

With Asif Ali, it invariably tends to be straight and six or straight and out. I haven’t seen tangible improvement in his ability to hook/pull either but I’m happy to be corrected. Hafeez, for all his detractors, could play square behind the wicket, straight and over cover as well. That’s the type of power hitting batsmen we need at 6, someone who has power but also range.
 
I find it frustrating and ridiculous that the likes of Khusdil and Asif Ali are going to be scapegoated for the selfish batting of Babar, Rizwan, Iftikhar, Fakhar.

UAE conditions are not the type where you can strike from ball one. Too many players in the team are playing for themselves at the expense of the team.

I think you make a reasonable point, as the s/r burden needs to be shared. The question is, does Asif Ali have the range, game awareness to hang about a bit more? Turn those 0s and 12s to quick 24s, 30s? I hope so, because it’s clear he’s going to be our no.6 in Australia.
 
I read what you said loud and clear. You are talking in truisms and stating the obvious for which I care very little about. Yeah, I too want world peace and the end of human suffering, Doesn't mean it is a realistic thing that'll happen anytime soon, if ever.

The position that Asif Ali plays in, he CANNOT get more of a feel. This is a guy who is coming in with 3 overs to spare. There is only one way to bat in a situation like this.

Also, there is a reason why he is batting there. And it has less to do with the team not trusting him than it has to do with his strengths and what he brings to the table. One stat that I have mentioned far too many times here is that Asif Ali has a SR of 189 in the death-overs (second highest in the world). He also strikes at 150+ against bowling over 140 kph. These two stats tell you that there is no other position for him to bat but 6/7.

Asif Ali is a bits and pieces player who will probably never even be successful at ODI cricket. But that's okay because T20 cricket is a format that is made for bits and pieces players.

It's all about how smart YOU ARE in maximizing those bits and pieces.

It’s not unreasonable to expect players to show some improvement whilst playing at the highest level. We’ve seen this with Nawaz, in his bowling and (to a degree) in his batting. We saw Hafeez improve his power hitting late in his career. We’ve seen Rizwan better his offside game (albeit he still needs to up his s/r a lot more). With Asif, we’re yet to see any variety in his hitting areas. At the very least it’ll turn his 0s and 6s to 20s and 24s. Asking a t20 international to demonstrate this I.e. maximise his own impact is not unreasonable.
 
Absolute top post.
I'd go further and suggest that every batter, just like Asif, is given 3 overs to go helter-skelter.
No anchoring.
Just go and blast it for 12 to 18 balls each.
Hell, its only 20 overs and at least 7/8 players who can bat, so why not?

Anchoring definitely has a role to play in T20 cricket. Because you need to build a strong foundation to have the freedom to go berserk in the backend. That said, there's a difference between anchoring and what Pakistan have been doing recently, which is not anchoring and deeply counter-productive to getting big totals in this format.
 
In domestics even Khurram Mansoor looks like a flamboyant opener, but in international cricket ppl will laugh at his batting skills. Not any TDH should be playing for national side with poor track record and keep in failing to score runs for the team.

Chuck these hitters and play proper batsman with SR 130+

We have proper batesman now Rizwan,Babar and Shan lets see how they do.
 
Should he have been sent in earlier today? What's the point of having him?
 
Should he have been sent in earlier today? What's the point of having him?

Amazing shots

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Based on todays match , i think no one can hit out of the ground better than Asif Ali...Shan Masood is ODI/Test material at best...In my opinion, Asif can play the role of Fakhar Zaman by being promoted up the order and keeping run rate also in check...

Better take the risk earlier rather than leave it too late..
 
I've been saying he needs to open. Give him free reign to do his thing, play in the air above the packed infield with only two outfielders. He never wastes deliveries, either he goes big or gets out early, and if the latter happens then Babar Azam walks in and he can do his usual thing with Rizwan
 
his last two sixes were again the difference today, given pakistan won by 4 runs... yet we have haters on his case

he plays between 8-15 balls if he is lucky. he will fail many times, but when he scores those crucial 15-35 runs, they are the difference because it comes under immense pressure and with significant strike rate.
 
Very underrated and underutilised. Won us more T20s than Babar and Rizwan combined.

Win v NZ
Win v AFG
Win v India
Win v Afg
Win v ENG

5 crucial knocks in 5 big games! 11 match winning sixes! I’ll take all of this instead of Babar and Rizwan’s statpadding records
 
I read what you said loud and clear. You are talking in truisms and stating the obvious for which I care very little about. Yeah, I too want world peace and the end of human suffering, Doesn't mean it is a realistic thing that'll happen anytime soon, if ever.

The position that Asif Ali plays in, he CANNOT get more of a feel. This is a guy who is coming in with 3 overs to spare. There is only one way to bat in a situation like this.

Also, there is a reason why he is batting there. And it has less to do with the team not trusting him than it has to do with his strengths and what he brings to the table. One stat that I have mentioned far too many times here is that Asif Ali has a SR of 189 in the death-overs (second highest in the world). He also strikes at 150+ against bowling over 140 kph. These two stats tell you that there is no other position for him to bat but 6/7.

Asif Ali is a bits and pieces player who will probably never even be successful at ODI cricket. But that's okay because T20 cricket is a format that is made for bits and pieces players.

It's all about how smart YOU ARE in maximizing those bits and pieces.

How many times has Asif Ali opened or played 1 or 2 down in T20 cricket?
The answer is 0.
Striking 150+ on 140 kph seems to indicate he should be opening the innings lol
 
He had a free run last night. Probably used to 5 balls and not so many overs.
 
Asif vs Shahid Afridi.

Both six hitters from the first ball. Impact players. Momentum changers. Match winners.

Only two differences:
- Afridi's batting ability was far superior to Asif's. We saw it in test matches and in ODIs.
- Afridi's captains tried to exploit his abilities to the fullest - even if they all had different ideas how to. That's why he got to bat in different positions including opening very successfully too.

The fact that he was also a champion bowler and a gun fielder, now we know how valuable he was. So many MoM awards are a testament to his abilities.

Coming to Asif, he doesn't have the same batting prowess as Afridi does. Not the same eye or the ability to hit against swing the same way.

But he does have six hitting ability. And his impact is already very high in Pakistan's wins - the likes of which Shan Masood and Khushdil Shah can never reach.

What to do with him:
- Show faith in him first of all.
- Continue to allow him more balls to play. Don't send him in only with 7 balls to go. Allow him to fail many times. He has to score a fifty or two to build faith in himself.
- I personally don't think he can be an opener. Technique too suspect against swinging ball to even do mishits. But I'd definitely try him at first drop or 2 drop - not floater. But fixed.
- Build his batting ability. He shows lack of confidence against genuine case, backs up and swings for the fences. That fear has to be taken out of him. One way is to send him to more and more franchise tournaments where the best bowlers may be.

All in all, someone to persist with for a sustained period.
 
Basically the only 6 hitter in the team, who can come out and hit.

Not the most consistent but really there is no other option.

He does bring something the team is missing.
 
This year Asif averages 8.85 in 8 innings.

Imagine averaging that and being responsible for 5 crucial wins for your side

Whilst others averaging 70+ yet cannot do anything of note to get their side over the line.

Some players will just not be ‘that guy’. And some players will
 
Imagine averaging that and being responsible for 5 crucial wins for your side

Whilst others averaging 70+ yet cannot do anything of note to get their side over the line.

Some players will just not be ‘that guy’. And some players will

You know that Cricket is teamwork right? If others didnt average 70, then Asif wouldnt get the chance to hit the last couple of runs. Once again his highest matchwinning score is 21 not out, sorry but that does not mean he single handedly won the match.

I am starting to feel you have never played cricket or you just don’t get it.
 
Normally support him but yesterday had perfect opportunity to bat long rather he played pathetic innings
 
His caliber as a batsman can be judged from the notion that he’s at his best when only 2 overs are left to bat. So every time we collapse he should be sent at no. 11 after Haris Rauf. That way he’ll play as less balls as possible
 
31 years old today

Born: October 1, 1991 (age 31 years), Faisalabad, Pakistan

Best wishes to Asif Ali
 
Asif Ali is simply not good enough. His batting can be compared to Nasim Shah at best. Lofts ,in the air ,either a six or out. Sorry to say, I can feel the quality of domestic batters in Pakistan when batsmen like Asif, Khushdil, Haider ,Ifti plays in the same playing eleven!!!! Oh my lord!!!

I never ever imagined that I shall see this in Pakistan cricket.
 
Its time this experiment ended

Asif ali unfortunately is a one dimentional player low IQ player who can hit the odd six but invariably will hit the ball straight down long on or long off throat

In a day and age where most players try and aspire to be 360 degrees players we have asif ali who plays only one or two shots

A batter who only lasts 6-9 balls a game shouldnt be in the team
 
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I was never a fan of Shahid Afridi's batting. But seeing these 4 I can say now that I love Afridi the batsman.
 
31 years old today

Born: October 1, 1991 (age 31 years), Faisalabad, Pakistan

Best wishes to Asif Ali

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Its time this experiment ended

Asif ali unfortunately is a one dimentional player low IQ player who can hit the odd six but invariably will hit the ball straight down long on or long off throat

In a day and age where most players try and aspire to be 360 degrees players we have asif ali who plays only one or two shots n

And it's a horrific situation that there are other 3 one dimensional batsman in same playing eleven. For example Haider Ali is a strict on side batsman. Rarely he hits on offside. Either square leg ,mid on or long on. You can watch his all innings highlights played for Pakistan.
 
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Wasted spot We have lower order batters coming out infront of him

If he cant play more than 6-8 balls He doesnt deseeve to be in the team
 
Wasted spot We have lower order batters coming out infront of him

If he cant play more than 6-8 balls He doesnt deseeve to be in the team

Actually you are right. I was of the view previously to only send him to bat when a handful of balls are left, but I guess even Dahani or Rauf can a hit a 6 in that situation.

Drop the useless Asif Ali and bring in someone like M Haris / Azam Khan.
 
Actually you are right. I was of the view previously to only send him to bat when a handful of balls are left, but I guess even Dahani or Rauf can a hit a 6 in that situation.

Drop the useless Asif Ali and bring in someone like M Haris / Azam Khan.

Dahani and Rauf can hit a six under pressure from ball one? You are grossly overestimating how difficult this is.

Asif Ali is exactly the sort of player you need to compliment Babar and Rizwan's skills. If the replacements cannot replicate what he does, this would be a bad move.
 
Dahani and Rauf can hit a six under pressure from ball one? You are grossly overestimating how difficult this is.

Asif Ali is exactly the sort of player you need to compliment Babar and Rizwan's skills. If the replacements cannot replicate what he does, this would be a bad move.

Anybody can swing a boundary off one ball Yes the tail can do it

Shadab and Nawaz did it today Its not difficult What is difficult and what mLes a difference to the team is to consistently do it in an innings

Asif ali has been useless in that respect for His 6-8 ball cameos are just not enough for a so called big hitting batter
 
Anybody can swing a boundary off one ball Yes the tail can do it

Shadab and Nawaz did it today Its not difficult What is difficult and what mLes a difference to the team is to consistently do it in an innings

Asif ali has been useless in that respect for His 6-8 ball cameos are just not enough for a so called big hitting batter

Yes Rauf would have hit 24 in that over against Jannat under that kind of pressure too
 
Yes Rauf would have hit 24 in that over against Jannat under that kind of pressure too

How long are we gonna hold onto to that innings? Its been a yr since How many actually matches has he made a difference in this yr?

He avges 9 since then in 16 innings hes batted

9 !

Is that what hes in the team for Once in a blue moon innings
 
How long are we gonna hold onto to that innings? Its been a yr since How many actually matches has he made a difference in this yr?

He avges 9 since then in 16 innings hes batted

9 !

Is that what hes in the team for Once in a blue moon innings

For however long it takes

Losing to Afghanistan is waaaay more painful and embarrassing in comparison to losing to India right now.

Asif Ali saved us from the embarrassment two games in a row against them.

The man is so under appreciated it’s unreal.
 
Asif is a must in the side.

He generally wont have to face more than a few balls because of the way the top order is stacked.

His job is to try to quickly change the momentum of the matches.

Not every batsman needs to be successful all the time.

If Asif is successful 1/10 matches its ok.

There is less of a price on a wicket at the time/position he comes in.

Remember that in the world Cup he spared our blushes twice.
 
Is that what hes in the team for Once in a blue moon innings

Yep exactly that. He in for a once in a blue moon innings....and thats ok given the way we play T20s.

If he's successful then he changes the momentum.

If he's not then he gets out in a few balls and someone else can have a go.
 
Yep exactly that. He in for a once in a blue moon innings....and thats ok given the way we play T20s.

If he's successful then he changes the momentum.

If he's not then he gets out in a few balls and someone else can have a go.

But he isnt successful Thats the point Some might be happy with a once in a blue innings but hes playing for the national team not local mohalla where this level of output is acceptable

Its a waste of spot He doesnt add anything to the team His cameos arent substancial enough His 9 doesnt make a difference to the team He Cant bowl either

He avges 9 this year I mean thats 9-10 jack level stuff

Total waste
 
Yes Rauf would have hit 24 in that over against Jannat under that kind of pressure too
Yes he could have, did you forget naseem' s camio against bangladesh. Such kind of 4-5 balls innings can come from any batter once in a blue moon and just for doing that asif is just carried as a burden with team for so long. Either he should be given more opportunities to spend more time on the pitch even if he fails or simply he should be dropped.
 
Got to give it to Pak team, weird and unique strategy that they just hide him away and only bring him out as a last resort.
 
Got to give it to Pak team, weird and unique strategy that they just hide him away and only bring him out as a last resort.

Exactly, how a batsman will have any sort of confidence in himself if he has to bat for ony last 1-2 overs and apart from it he don't have to play any other role for his team. Even if he fails, he should be given consistent opportunities to bat more overs. If he fails then also, then simply he is not fit to play international cricket purely as a batsman.
 
Exactly, how a batsman will have any sort of confidence in himself if he has to bat for ony last 1-2 overs and apart from it he don't have to play any other role for his team. Even if he fails, he should be given consistent opportunities to bat more overs. If he fails then also, then simply he is not fit to play international cricket purely as a batsman.

Who would you have then?

Let’s hear it
 
But he isnt successful Thats the point Some might be happy with a once in a blue innings but hes playing for the national team not local mohalla where this level of output is acceptable

Its a waste of spot He doesnt add anything to the team His cameos arent substancial enough His 9 doesnt make a difference to the team He Cant bowl either

He avges 9 this year I mean thats 9-10 jack level stuff

Total waste

I've watched T20 cricket since the start ( as I assume you will have too) and I have never seen a player utilised like the way Asif has been.

At his position and for the number of balls he gets to bat the average while disappointing is quite irrelevant.

If he scores 20 in one game and then scores 0 in the next 5 then he has still won us one match.

The way our top order is structured requires a nuclear option like Asif.
 
I've watched T20 cricket since the start ( as I assume you will have too) and I have never seen a player utilised like the way Asif has been.

At his position and for the number of balls he gets to bat the average while disappointing is quite irrelevant.

If he scores 20 in one game and then scores 0 in the next 5 then he has still won us one match.

The way our top order is structured requires a nuclear option like Asif.

Yeah that’s because our top order is a Test XI and it gets to the point where someone has to detonate to save it?!?

Says the 5 letter p word that ends with k who likes to personally attack people for their cricketing views!
 
Who would you have then?

Let’s hear it
Thats what i am trying to convey bro, if there is no other option available, then he should be nurtured into a decent batsman. Not just a tullaybaaz for 1-2 overs.
 
Yeah that’s because our top order is a Test XI and it gets to the point where someone has to detonate to save it?!?

Says the 5 letter p word that ends with k who likes to personally attack people for their cricketing views!

Again you have misunderstood.

I respect your cricketing views despite disagreeing with some of it.

My point of contention in the other thread is not with you directly as a poster. Just some particular word choice.
 
Thats what i am trying to convey bro, if there is no other option available, then he should be nurtured into a decent batsman. Not just a tullaybaaz for 1-2 overs.

I’m actually not interested in what you have to say right now tbh. I’ll get back to you in a bit
[MENTION=51465]DeadlyVenom[/MENTION] explain your nuclear comment??! Is that what you need after backing a paint dry top 3???
 
Again you have misunderstood.

I respect your cricketing views despite disagreeing with some of it.

My point of contention in the other thread is not with you directly as a poster. Just some particular word choice.

You really think it’s ok to just abuse people for no reason?
 
The only improvement I see is his fielding. His batting can’t improve since he’s nothing more then a slogger and hopefully after this t20 World Cup it’s the end for him.
 
[MENTION=51465]DeadlyVenom[/MENTION] you really think it’s ok to just throw in personal insults knowing it will be deleted in a but and everyone will just forget and move on??!!

I didn’t once personally attack you for your cricketing view. Not once! What gives you the right to cross the line????
 
I’m actually not interested in what you have to say right now tbh. I’ll get back to you in a bit

[MENTION=51465]DeadlyVenom[/MENTION] explain your nuclear comment??! Is that what you need after backing a paint dry top 3???

It is a strategy that we have adopted and Asif is the only player in Pak cricket that fits into that strategy.

I am not 100% convinced by the strategy, nor by some of the names that can come in from the sidelines and it is too late to abort.


So we need a terminator like Asif for now
 
It is a strategy that we have adopted and Asif is the only player in Pak cricket that fits into that strategy.

I am not 100% convinced by the strategy, nor by some of the names that can come in from the sidelines and it is too late to abort.


So we need a terminator like Asif for now

Ah I see acting all civil and defensive now that I called you out for your personal attack

If I hadn’t, would you personally attack me again? Why be a coward now??
 
I’m actually not interested in what you have to say right now tbh. I’ll get back to you in a bit

[MENTION=51465]DeadlyVenom[/MENTION] explain your nuclear comment??! Is that what you need after backing a paint dry top 3???

I have nothing to do and bothered about what you are interested in. You can ignore my comments if you don't like. Everyone in this forum knows what is your agenda in each and every comment of yours.
 
Ah I see acting all civil and defensive now that I called you out for your personal attack

If I hadn’t, would you personally attack me again? Why be a coward now??
Why would I personally attack you in the first place its a forum fgs :))

Secondly why would I personally attack you on a point where we share the same opinion :))
 
I have nothing to do and bothered about what you are interested in. You can ignore my comments if you don't like. Everyone in this forum knows what is your agenda in each and every comment of yours.

Cricket agenda. Which I truly believe in. Doesn’t give you the right to personally abuse me. It’s ok

You will be the one ignoring now.
 
Cricket agenda. Which I truly believe in. Doesn’t give you the right to personally abuse me. It’s ok

You will be the one ignoring now.
Sorry this was a response to [MENTION=51465]DeadlyVenom[/MENTION]

As you can see, I’m fuming
 
Cricket agenda. Which I truly believe in. Doesn’t give you the right to personally abuse me. It’s ok

You will be the one ignoring now.
I am not abusing, infact i feel pity on your agenda. You replied on my post, so did i. Nothing like abusing or insulting you.
 
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