"I just hope New Zealand get it done for us" : Mickey Arthur

[MenInG]

Head coach Mickey Arthur is desperate for Pakistan to have their World Cup destiny in their own hands when they play Bangladesh on Friday.

England's victory over India on Sunday made it harder for Pakistan to reach the semi-finals and another win for the host nation against New Zealand on Wednesday would effectively end Pakistan's chances of qualifying from the round-robin stage.

"How they (India) played, again that's the issue which we can't control," said Arthur.

"Obviously, I was following the game intently and was disappointed that India did not get up because that would have opened the door for us.

"Now all we want is to get to Friday with a real opportunity and our destiny in our own hands."

Pakistan hope New Zealand can recover from two straight defeats to beat England at Chester-le-Street, which would open the door for Pakistan to reach the semis by beating Bangladesh at Lord's on Friday.

"I just hope New Zealand get it done for us," said Arthur, whose team have nine points, one behind England and two behind New Zealand, with one match to come for each side.

"If New Zealand don't (win) then we hope England win by a big-enough margin and then we calculate what we have to do with our net run-rate, which I think is probably too much."

Pakistan had a disastrous start to the World Cup when they were shot out for a paltry 105 by the West Indies, who chased down the target in just 13.4 overs.

"I think when we look back in the tournament the thing that really haunts me is the defeat against the West Indies," said Arthur of the seven-wicket loss in Nottingham.

"That was the game, right at the start of the tournament. We should have fired right at the start but we didn't and it hurts now."

Pakistan shocked England in their second game but Arthur said a washout against Sri Lanka in Bristol sapped their momentum.

"We had the momentum straight after the England win and then to have a washed-out game meant we almost had to start all over again and train indoors, so it was disappointing."

Pakistan lost to Australia and arch-rivals India before winning three consecutive games against South Africa, New Zealand and Afghanistan to revive their chances.

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[The_Odd_One]

Pakistan has been the unluckies among England and New Zealand.

None of England's matches were washed out and NZ had a washout against India. Otherwise, both of them would have been on 9 points along with Pakistan with one more match to go.

 

[RickyG]

Pakistan has been the unluckies among England and New Zealand.

None of England's matches were washed out and NZ had a washout against India. Otherwise, both of them would have been on 9 points along with Pakistan with one more match to go.

Both would've been on 10 points. Actually what would've made this tournament even more interesting would've been head to head record being more important than NRR.

That would've meant England vs NZ would've been basically a quarter final (unless Pakistan lost to Bangladesh).

 

[The_Odd_One]

Both would've been on 10 points. Actually what would've made this tournament even more interesting would've been head to head record being more important than NRR.

That would've meant England vs NZ would've been basically a quarter final (unless Pakistan lost to Bangladesh).

All 3 of them would have been on 10 if PAK-SL and NZ-IND matches were not washed out. If England had a washout against weaker teams, they would have been on 9.

 

[Ronaldo7]

At least he's being honest.
If NZ don't win, we have no chance coz the nrr difference is way too much.

 

[Hasan123]

We are all hoping NZ win . That's all we can do.

 

[pillionrider]

A bit odd that he talks of destiny in own hands and yet gently complains about India and fervently wants NZ to beat England

 

[fanofcricket4life]

If you can't qualify on your own, you are just not good enough.

 

[member250]

A bit odd that he talks of destiny in own hands and yet gently complains about India and fervently wants NZ to beat England

He is talking about game against BD if NZ win.

 

[Ronaldo7]

If you can't qualify on your own, you are just not good enough.

Was the rained out match in our hands?
We would have most likely qualified if that match hadn't been washed out.

 

[saeed5646]

Tomorrow will be extremely nervous day for all the Pakistan fans .England are favourites but we should pray they choke like they usually does in pressure game

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

If you can't qualify on your own, you are just not good enough.

yei boht hogia na kuch naya lao.

you indians are always taste like bitter almonds.

 

[narayanjan]

This is a common feeling among the incompetent folks who see an opening

 

[KingKhanWC]

Coaching Pakistan is one of the most difficult sporting jobs in the world. Mickey has done well to keep the team together.

NZ may lose to England but Pakistan should still beat Bangladesh. Losing 3 games out of 9 isnt the worst world cup but of course would have been nice to reach semis.

 

[Plumb]

Coaching Pakistan is one of the most difficult sporting jobs in the world. Mickey has done well to keep the team together.

NZ may lose to England but Pakistan should still beat Bangladesh. Losing 3 games out of 9 isnt the worst world cup but of course would have been nice to reach semis.

I do feel NZ can beat England. NZ already lost 2 games and they have a point to prove also. Pak vs Bang is what worries me...

 

[Jeetlodil]

Sorry Mickey. England is likely to thrash NZ. Learn some maths next time

 

[Mamoon]

If you can’t do it for yourself, don’t expect others to do it for you.

 

[UP]

PCB should let Micky stay for 2 more years at least.

 

[Kianig89]

Jist summed up the whole mentality Mickey principle of coaching

 

[Saj]

That Windies defeat was always going to come back and haunt Pakistan.

It was a shambles.

 

[Misia]

Even if Nz beat Eng, i really don't believe that the Bangladesh game is a given, Pak will need to play out of there skins . The pressure on them will be unbelievable

I'm expecting a real tooth n nail match


The better team on Friday will win

We all praise the all mighty in victory but which side will the almighty on come jummah time

 

[ak619]

Was the rained out match in our hands?
We would have most likely qualified if that match hadn't been washed out.

India and New Zealand also had a rained out match. Don't see either of them complaining. Probably because they were good enough to win enough matches despite that to qualify. Just saying.

 

[narayanjan]

Statistics often reveal the truth (whether it is averages, last 20 match win percentage or weighting it by recent performance by some weighted average). It just takes time and everybody rise to their level of incompetence. Pakistan in the long run are a lower tier team that will need some statistical method to qualify. On their day they can bring down any opposition but in a consistent basis will be found wanting against the better teams.

 

[The Viper]

NZ batting is not good enough so hopefully the pitch is not flat as England will win for sure then.

 

[Abdullah]

If you can't qualify on your own, you are just not good enough.

If their SL game was washed out and our India game was washed out...
That's the uncontrollables- ie luck
If we finish in same points as NZ there is no doubt in my mind we have been better than them

 

[wasiqwaqar]

India and New Zealand also had a rained out match. Don't see either of them complaining. Probably because they were good enough to win enough matches despite that to qualify. Just saying.

New zealand not complaining because they got a free point. Indian wont complain because they are good enough to win enough matches.

 

[Hitman]

New zealand not complaining because they got a free point. Indian wont complain because they are good enough to win enough matches.

New Zealand could have won 2 points, instead they won 1 point.

 

[Mamoon]

After the West Indies disaster, we needed to win 2 out of 3 against England, India and Australia to make up for it, because it would have put us in a very strong position. We only managed 1 out of 3, and hence we are in this pitiful position where our entire faith rests in the hands of New Zealand.

 

[Rana]

Tbh the toss is crucial. India would have beaten England had they batted first. Bangladesh probably would have beaten India had they also batted first.

 

[dildilpak]

The rained out game was out of our hands. Pak had no business though loosing to WI so badly, nor choking against Australia.

 

[bujhee kom]

If Pk go out, they had an ok WC for a middling team. Pk's 'A' game is awesome, but below that intensity they are patchy.

We are similar in strength and disposition.

 

[Dead Ball]

Honestly, as an Indian I hope NZ knocks England out. Hope they have another off day tomorrow.

On a flat pitch, England is virtually invincible and the biggest obstacle to Indian WC hopes.

 

[zulfiqar]

I was in New Zealand earlier this year and brought back some black caps gear... I'll be wearing all of it 100%.

LES GO KIWIS!

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

I hope we sneak in to the semi's somehow but if we don't i will make sure we come home with 5 wins.

 

[taqi]

Pakistan is sure batter team if we tie up with NZ on points.

If it should have been head to head we would have qualified.

But still Pakistan themselves have to be blamed not rain not India not anyone else.

We slipped the chance against Australia and we did not managed run rate well.

If Pakistan could have played 50 overs in WI match they might have a chance on run rate.

 

[Napa]

Pakistan has been the unluckies among England and New Zealand.

None of England's matches were washed out and NZ had a washout against India. Otherwise, both of them would have been on 9 points along with Pakistan with one more match to go.

While they have been unlucky with the rain, they did have a lot of luck with the umpires in the Afg match in which 2 Pakistani batsmen were not given out.

 

[shane]

I am just hoping that NZ are playing to win tomorrow and not playing to preserve their NRR.

 

[DGBOSS]

Team and Coach true to each others. Begging others to win it for them .

 

[shane]

Team and Coach true to each others. Begging others to win it for them .

What exactly do you want him to say? To lie with the "I hope the best team wins" nonsense?

 

[IAJ]

I just can’t get the Windies defeat out of my mind. That rubbish team played their best game first up and we played our worst then.
Russel put in too much effort in that match and his knees never recovered fully after that.

 

[Syed1]

I just can’t get the Windies defeat out of my mind. That rubbish team played their best game first up and we played our worst then.
Russel put in too much effort in that match and his knees never recovered fully after that.

More than Windies loss it is the SL rained off match that is hurting us. Eng never had a rained off match and NZ had a rain off against Ind which they would have lost.

 

[Dead Ball]

If it's a sporting wicket I think NZ are in with a real good chance. Also England will be playing with a lot more pressure on them than NZ.

 

[ak619]

New zealand not complaining because they got a free point. Indian wont complain because they are good enough to win enough matches.

My point exactly. Be good enough so that you don't have to depend on the uncontrollable in order to qualify.

 

[IMMY69]

I did say after the Windies game that with this format we simply could not afford to lose games against sides considered lower then us.. Then after the Sri Lanka wash out I knew it would be a huge uphill struggle and I explained why too.

People were comparing this campaign to 1992 except in 1992 we got a point against a very strong England side whereas in 2019 we effectively dropped a point against a side down in the dumps, and one we most likely would have won as it is also coming on the back of a stunning victory against England. Lets be honest with ourselves, no one gave us much of a chance to beat England taking all the recent events in to account.

Mickey is a spot on in that the SL rained off match affected our momentum and a point lost meant we played with pressure against the Aussies which really was a must win game what with India being the next contest and we all know how we do against India in word cups.

So there we have it..

 

[Shaddy86]

England are meant to be in the semis. They have a lot of power outside of the playing field to make it happen. Stop dreaming about New Zealand beating them, even if New Zealand are in a good position to win, they won't. Both teams will play the semis, tomorrow's game is probably going to be the repeat episode of Eng-India match.

 

[Syed1]

England are meant to be in the semis. They have a lot of power outside of the playing field to make it happen. Stop dreaming about New Zealand beating them, even if New Zealand are in a good position to win, they won't. Both teams will play the semis, tomorrow's game is probably going to be the repeat episode of Eng-India match.

Yeah watch out for tiny things like NZ choosing to bat first after winning toss on a green top etc...... Moves are being made to ensure England qualify for semi. Unfortunately, this means the only team that is affected in collateral damage is Pakistan.

 

[PakLFC]

Kiwis need to score over 300 if they are to win. I will be surprised to see England not winning this one, they'll be too strong for NZ tomorrow. Losing to the West Indies will be the reason we won't be in the semi's.

 

[ManFan]

Even if NZ beat ENG tomorrow, there is no chance (except a miracle) that we will beat BD (if at all) by a huge margin.

 

[PakLFC]

Even if NZ beat ENG tomorrow, there is no chance (except a miracle) that we will beat BD (if at all) by a huge margin.

What you on about? If NZ beat England we just need to beat Bangladesh by any margin. Do your sums.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Even if NZ beat ENG tomorrow, there is no chance (except a miracle) that we will beat BD (if at all) by a huge margin.

If nz beat eng, we just have to win. Nrr won't come into play. Even if we win by 1 run or by 1 ball we go through.

 

[ManFan]

What you on about? If NZ beat England we just need to beat Bangladesh by any margin. Do your sums.

I thought to improve our NRR, we had to win by a big margin.

If that’s the case then, PAK’s chances are 25-75.

 

[PakLFC]

I thought to improve our NRR, we had to win by a big margin.

If that’s the case then, PAK’s chances are 25-75.

Not if NZ beat England tomorrow. Then we just need to beat Bangladesh, that's all.

 

[IMMY69]

The first thing that has to happen is for NZ to win the toss and bat first...
Scoreboard pressure may cause panic amongst the English batsmen.

It's all good scoring and chasing 300 hundred totals for fun in Bi Lateral matches, but in a world cup, knowing you have to win to get to the semi's, even a total of around 260 will be a challenge, no matter what the surface.

There, there's my little positive spin on things

 

[virat2]

Was the rained out match in our hands?
We would have most likely qualified if that match hadn't been washed out.

Ironically in 92 Pak qualified because of rain

 

[FreakCricket]

New Zealand are already in so they wont have that Jaazba to beat England!

 

[Pete Rose]

New Zealand are already in so they wont have that Jaazba to beat England!

a bad loss can give them a couple of uncomfortable nights. They would like to settle the matter here and now.

 

[PakLFC]

New Zealand are already in so they wont have that Jaazba to beat England!

NZ could still go out on run rate if they lost to England if Pak defeated Bangladesh. It would be very unlikely though.

 

[Jeetlodil]

reach out to bangla brothers and ask them to be 50 all out and then chase it in 5 overs.

 

[GrandMaster]

Mickey Arthur should be given honorary citizenship of Pakistan. He talk, think and act more like a desi.

 

[zulfiqar]

reach out to bangla brothers and ask them to be 50 all out and then chase it in 5 overs.

Lol.. I expect nothing else than a riveting contest between Pakistan and Bangladesh!

 

[MenInG]

I fear that Pakistan coaching staff looking at tomorrow as possibly their last chance to retain employments in the future - a lot rides on this game tomorrow

 

[GrandMaster]

In order to qualify, NZ need to beat England AND Pakistan need to beat Bangladesh. Is Mickey confident that Pakistan will beat Bangaldesh? No one is talking about this match. It will be so embarassing if NZ wins and Pakistan lose.

 

[member250]

We would have won against SL and NZ would have lost against India if not for washouts. In that scenario Pakistan is more deserving of the two to reach semis if NZ loss tomorrow. Not to forget NZ doesn't have that X factor to take on tournament favourites and beat them in semi and final like Pakistan did in CT 2017.

 

[Shaddy86]

In order to qualify, NZ need to beat England AND Pakistan need to beat Bangladesh. Is Mickey confident that Pakistan will beat Bangaldesh? No one is talking about this match. It will be so embarassing if NZ wins and Pakistan lose.

May be Bang can repay the favour from 20 years ago

 

[Captain caveman]

yei boht hogia na kuch naya lao.

you indians are always taste like bitter almonds.

lol!

 

[rhony]

New Zealand are already in so they wont have that Jaazba to beat England!

This is the reason why i think there will be a few gimmicks. Both can get through with a close NZ loss.

 

[StreetSmart]

In order to qualify, NZ need to beat England AND Pakistan need to beat Bangladesh. Is Mickey confident that Pakistan will beat Bangaldesh? No one is talking about this match. It will be so embarassing if NZ wins and Pakistan lose.

lol!!! I was thinking the same, i am having a feeling that NZ will win today and Pakistan will be defeated by Bangladesh :-D

 

[wasiqwaqar]

lol!!! I was thinking the same, i am having a feeling that NZ will win today and Pakistan will be defeated by Bangladesh :-D

yeh feelings hee marwati hai humay

 

[Kroll]

Toss crucial, who ever bats first and puts up 300+ likely to win the match.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Net run rate will be important again
So let’s hope it’s a one sided match whoever is put in to bat

 

[Chokli]

New Zealand will win; it happened in 1992.

We needed Australia to defeat West Indies in 1992 and it happened.

 

[Mueez]

New Zealand will win; it happened in 1992.

We needed Australia to defeat West Indies in 1992 and it happened.

Bhai if it doesn’t happen all our paybacks won’t happen

 

[Chokli]

Bhai if it doesn’t happen all our paybacks won’t happen

It'll happen.

Don't worry.

I think it might be a Pakistan Vs Australia Semi Final with Revenge of '87

 

[BaankeJi]

I am rooting for an NZ win for the sake of PPers.

 

[fitCricFan]

To Mickey Arthur " If you were doing the job you were tasked with, we wouldn't have to read your statement and the road to the knockout would not have depended on the outcome of a match which does not involve Pakistan"

Hope he is let go after the WC because it looks he has no intention of resigning

 

[Chokli]

Net run rate will be important again
So let’s hope it’s a one sided match whoever is put in to bat

Nope, if New Zealand win then NRR isn't important.

 

[Plumb]

I am more worried about beating Bang... they will come out in winning mode as its their last game and have played good cricket so far in this WC

 

[Usergame]

If their SL game was washed out and our India game was washed out...
That's the uncontrollables- ie luck
If we finish in same points as NZ there is no doubt in my mind we have been better than them

You are a terrible analyst of cricket if you think pak have been better than NZ.
Pakistan were lucky to beat afghan.
Got a turning track vs NZ.

Bowled out for 105 vs windies
Thrashed by India.

NZ has just had 1 big loss to aussie but it was nowhere as bad as pak's surrender vs windies.
If you play with non heart like that at the wc you dont deserve to make semis.

I think bdesh r favs vs pak anyway. Imo they have been better than pak so far

 

[rhony]

Go NZ tomorrow!! Beat that English arrogance. Let BD vs Pak have relevance. Would love to watch Pak vs AUS in the SF.

 

[ChennaiFan]

In the contest to take the two remain semi final spots, Pakistan deserve it more than England, and New Zealand because Pakistan beat both these teams in the league matches.

Let us hope New Zealand and Pakistan take those spots.