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"I really don’t think Kamran Akmal fits into our plans going forward" : Mickey Arthur
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Zaz
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We ve seen this sort of thing many times before from kami every now and then
The problem is theres nothing in between for several games Also hes a liability in the field Move on
The problem is theres nothing in between for several games Also hes a liability in the field Move on
In 2020 if he still doing what he does, then bring him in. If this was a World Cup year, I would understand but by 2020 he will have declined. Who knows how much worse his fielding can get too....
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what do you mean, Farhan has been opening his entire career. Its just ISU that mucked around by batting him at 5 or 6
Kamran Akmal epitomises the pakistani mentally. Terrible batsman who has time and again proven he is not cut out for international cricket. We are talking hundreds of games across all formats with no pressure for his position in the team.
Yet, he sometimes plays some nice shots and so the general pakistan public think he is a very good batsman and it's his atrocious keeping which lets him down.
And now that he has performed in PSL, people forget all about the past. Forget that just 12 months ago, we were in the same situation - him being considerably ahead of anyone else in the PSL but when he was given a chance internationally - guess what... he did what he's done throughout his career.
37 years old at least, overweight, terrible footwork, pretty poor attitude, complete liability in the field but people again are advocating his return.
Yet, he sometimes plays some nice shots and so the general pakistan public think he is a very good batsman and it's his atrocious keeping which lets him down.
And now that he has performed in PSL, people forget all about the past. Forget that just 12 months ago, we were in the same situation - him being considerably ahead of anyone else in the PSL but when he was given a chance internationally - guess what... he did what he's done throughout his career.
37 years old at least, overweight, terrible footwork, pretty poor attitude, complete liability in the field but people again are advocating his return.
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I simply love how Kamran shut this guy up.
We would simply love if Kamran would shut us up when he inevitably fails every single time playing international cricket.
You're by far one of the worst posters on PP. Onto my ignore list my chap!
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I have posted it before in the match thread that the way in which Kamran Akmal got out today shows that he has not worked on his weakness. He has given his wicket in that same zone many times.
International teams usually do their homework and this the reason why he has failed so many times at international level while performing consistently in domestics.
International teams usually do their homework and this the reason why he has failed so many times at international level while performing consistently in domestics.
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If Kamran was under 30, it made sense to bring him back. He is far too old, inconsistent, and embarrassingly bad in the field to deserve a recall.
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He's a game changer, should be considered. Fakhar and Kamran opening could be brutal. Even if one of them stays on till late in the innings it can change the landscape of the game.
Do you think I care about being put on your ignore list?
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How about Farhan opening with Fakhar ?
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He never performed consistently in domestics until recent years. Look at his domestic averages, they're nothing special despite Kamran literally raining in the runs in the last few years.
It took Kamran to be dropped virtually for good for him to develop the drive to work upon himself and propel him to these heights even in domestic.
It's irritating as hell it has taken so long. He was hard done by in his last outing, only given a few chances, and quite frankly if he was given more, he might have succeeded. It takes time to readjust to internationals for many, one tour isn't a lot. Kamran himself was having a bad PSL until a few matches ago.
The issue is he has is his extensive past failing, we're talking near 300 games worth of international experience here, his age, his poor fielding, his poor fitness (which may lead to injury), the fact he's competition to our own captain, Sarfraz. So many, and Kamran's got so little time to get good at internationals, we can't wait around for 1 or 2 years like a youngster.
I have in do doubt in my mind Kamran has improved. You can't perform like this without doing so. It's just it's arguably too late. Begrudgingly I'd play him, there's no one else who is hitting with the same power game and the consistency as he is in domestic (except Fakhar). And with Sharjeel banned, Umar gone and lost form, there is little competition. Along with Talat he's pretty much the only one who has competed at he same level or better than the guys in the international team already.
After the world cups are done (T20 and ODI), he should be gone, but we can get some mileage out of him till then hopefully).
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I also loved how he repsonded to the interviewer on the sidelinbes when asked what he had for breakfast... the paratha... can't keep the Pakistani players from their parathas and biryanis.
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I haven't seen enough of Farhan to say much about him. But I can say he didn't light up the world in this PSL when he did play, his scores this tournament were 9, 6, 3* and 29. I can just say from what I've seen of Kamran, that he alongside Fakhar can be game changers.
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Mickey himat na haarna, akmal sr doing his best to seduce you...
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Doesnt matter what Micky sb thinks about Kami. The fact of the matter is that hes our best T20 batsman currently and he has proved it with consistent performences in all 3 PSL seasons. I dont think hes fit enough for ODIs but definately a starter for our T20 XI and deserves to be in the team ahead of players like Sarfraz, Babar, Hafeez, Shahzad.
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International teams will work him out. Infact they already did that. Place a fielder at deep point and keep short third man a bit wider. Tell your right arm pacer to bowl wide of stumps at short of good length. He will slice cut short and will throw his wicket away. Both Akmals have done this many times.
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Still don't want him... us ki roti hoi shakal sabh ka confidence tor deti hai... us ki bekar keeping kisi kaam ki nahin... aur intl level pe woh useless hai... aur haan at 38 he is very fit using SHAMA banaspati ghee for his fitness...
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He deserves the place solely for his batting skills. I would pick Kamran over Babar.
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Mickey has admitted the fact that Kamran is a terrific batter. But unfortunately international cricket is long past the stage where you have to hide the bad fielders in your team. People forget Kami bhai dropped two straight-forward chances in his first comeback game. Sarfraz had to think of innovative positions to field Kami bhai. Too much of a hassle when the culture is finally beginning to change in Pakistan cricket.
Thank you Kamran Akmal for your services but you have missed your chance.
Thank you Kamran Akmal for your services but you have missed your chance.
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Next world T20 is in Oct-Nov 2020 that too in Australia Kamran will be 38 by then. Surely we have time to invest in some youngsters.
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Sarfraz himself drops sitters or misses easy stumping chances so thats not a good excuse for keeping Kamran out. As far as age is concerned, well if Misbah can lead Pakistan at 40 in a world cup and play till 42/43 , why cant anyone else? Dont agree with the part the hes useless at intl level. Has he been given as many chances as Shahzad or Hafeez in the recent past? Even Malik was given continous chances by Misbah at one stage when he was failing badly.
Reh gai fielding, to wo improve ki ja sakti hai. Its not smth which cant be worked at.
Reh gai fielding, to wo improve ki ja sakti hai. Its not smth which cant be worked at.
What hppened to give me just 3 chances? You ll be seen no where when he fails which he ‘ll for sure. Made several comebacks to the team and did jack. Micky said to Akmals
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Was the standard way he got out in internationals. But I'm sure that's how he got out in domestics too for the majority of his career. I don't think it's that easy anymore. Kamran didn't even perform in the first PSL.
He's faced international level bowlers in this PSL. With international level coaches playing. He faced Amir our best T20 pacer, being coached by Mickey Arthur. If it was that easy Amir should have got him out.
I do realise that Kamran is benefitting from his international experience in domestic, hence is performing better. Not exactly a fair comparison to those who only play domestic. But it's a bit concerning that he's looking better even in a tournament such as this (with international players) than most of our national team batsmen.
And these innings aren't the odd hitting and get lucky for a bit sort of innings. They seem to be constructed, long innings at good SR. And Kamran's doing this is all formats whether it's list A, T20, PSL, even first class and has been for years. It's usually a very good sign when a guy can perform over all formats like this in domestic.
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Even with this performance, Kamran is a liability for Pak's LOI team. He is hit and miss. International team will take 6 balls to dismiss him every time. Also, where will he field?
WK with Sarfraz out of the T20I team forever; thats the only way it may work
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Sarfraz and Misbah played as captains, do you also want Kami as a captain too? If so, please do not respond to this post or else I might go into a trauma.
As far as Hafeez and Shezzy are concerned, people have been wanting them dropped for years now, so nothing here. Last but not least, Malik. He is probably the fittest Pakistani player in the team. If Kami can match his fitness, he is more than welcomed to comeback.
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This is always my biggest fear when TTFs always go back to the domestic matches and perform over and over again get selected for national team go abroad and look like complete tailenders rinse and repeat. Oh yeah and moan like little girls to the media when they get dropped. I was hoping/wishing akmals ,maqsoods,Malik's, shehzads etc don't do well well other then goofy the rest all failed and am glad. What makes me laugh is after one or two decent innings in domestics some how their so called closet fans come out in swarms the same fans who moan when the amir's fakhars and azams have a bad game they are out with their Pitchfork's.
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There's a lot of hate for Kamran here and justifiably so. He made us Pakistani fans suffer for years and years with horrific performances with both bat and gloves.
However, if there is one thing which I believe in, it's rewarding performance. When Kamran performs like this and surpasses every other Pakistani in the tournament, he deserves selection. To select a failure like Shehzad for nothing more than his 'age' is to make a huge mistake. So put all your biases to one side and act fairly.
However, if there is one thing which I believe in, it's rewarding performance. When Kamran performs like this and surpasses every other Pakistani in the tournament, he deserves selection. To select a failure like Shehzad for nothing more than his 'age' is to make a huge mistake. So put all your biases to one side and act fairly.
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This is also my case, he should be selected on merit. He has outperformed every pakistani and international batsmen in the PSL.
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If he’s in form get him in.
No point having out of form or limited selfish players like Shezhad.
No point having out of form or limited selfish players like Shezhad.
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Insanity - when you repeat the same thing over and over again without expecting a different result.
Lets forget Akmal averages 26 and 21 in LOI.
Lets forget we went through this last year --> Akmal got into the T20 side against WI on "merit" and failed, just like the rest of his career. He averages 26 and 21 in International cricket FGS ! Not to mention he's 36, barely fit and a pure liability in the field.
Luke Ronchi is of the same age, played literally the same level of knocks in this exhibition tourney and has a similar average in LOI, yet has retired and wouldn't get a shoe-in for NZL even if he was still available for selection.
Only in Pakistan...
He'll be selected for the WI series in PAK where he'll score, fail in the Asia Cup , fail in the UAE series against AUS and then we'll go through this cycle again. Next year Shehzad will score a few 50s in the PSL and people will start calling for him over Akmal.
Just goes to show how far the standard has fallen in Pakistan.
Lets forget Akmal averages 26 and 21 in LOI.
Lets forget we went through this last year --> Akmal got into the T20 side against WI on "merit" and failed, just like the rest of his career. He averages 26 and 21 in International cricket FGS ! Not to mention he's 36, barely fit and a pure liability in the field.
Luke Ronchi is of the same age, played literally the same level of knocks in this exhibition tourney and has a similar average in LOI, yet has retired and wouldn't get a shoe-in for NZL even if he was still available for selection.
Only in Pakistan...
He'll be selected for the WI series in PAK where he'll score, fail in the Asia Cup , fail in the UAE series against AUS and then we'll go through this cycle again. Next year Shehzad will score a few 50s in the PSL and people will start calling for him over Akmal.
Just goes to show how far the standard has fallen in Pakistan.
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Kamran should be given the West Indies T20I series. He is in red hot form and would do well against a team on the flat Lahore pitch. It is an irrelevant series from a cricketing perspective, and I see no harm in rewarding him for his PSL performance.
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The only way this could work is if Sarfraz is given a rest from T20s and Fakhar, Amir or someone else is given the captaincy for an experimental T20 side.
Otherwise, theres simply no room for Akmal atm.
Otherwise, theres simply no room for Akmal atm.
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dont care, keep him away..he had his chances when he was with the national team..too late now..plus he is overweight and fat..
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No you have to move forward..he is the past and we have to move forward..
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And of course he is right. Kamran's fine for PSL, but I don't want to see him near the Pakistani outfit unless he becomes at least an average fielder and shows consistency with the bat everywhere he plays.
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Haha nice one
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Pathetic from Mickey. They need to understand that a player needs to be selected on merit. At least he should not say these things in media. Player will stop working hard if he listens these comments. Look what Karthik did the other day. If a player is performing then he must be given a chance, even if the surname is Akmal
Oh cmon. He smashed a few half pitched dollies. Did everybody forget Kakmal and how terrible he was? It's as if he is waging a lone battle. He isn't. He smashed a few bad balls over the tiniest boundary. Watch a few Kakmal videos on YouTube and you'll feel fine.
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Kamran the batsman was always better than Kamran the keeper. I hope this tournament will allow him to get better contracts in other leagues and he can stay out of Pakistan cricket. If we had a T20 world cup next few months I would have been okay with them picking him for it but the next world T20 is in 2020 selecting him now is not useful for the future.
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Kamran Akaml does well in PSL and fails when given a chance in national team. Time to move on.
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