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"I suspect pressure from India is hindering Bangladesh's tour" : Pakistan FM Shah Mehmood Qureshi

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"I suspect pressure from India is hindering Bangladesh's tour" : Pakistan FM Shah Mehmood Qureshi

Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi at a presser:

"We are thankful to Sri Lanka for coming. We heard their players' statements, they said that Pakistan had the perfect environment for cricket and had excellent arrangements with fool-proof security. They didn't face any problems at all"

"We are ready to welcome Bangladesh. It looks like they were ready to tour. But I suspect pressure from India is proving to be a hindrance"

"Bangladesh should take this decision independently. They can continue their ties with India, but in international sports, they shouldn't involve these type of politics"
 
People not related to cricket should not give their views on cricket. This is where the incompetent ICC should come in not this person.
 
Chotey log like him doesn't deserve cricket. Kudos to Papon for putting them in their rightful place.
 
These kinda statements will help no one - might end up complicating stuff further with BCB.
 
Now they have officially dragged in the BD govt.

This just keeps getting better.
 
He is right.

United Nations must intervene in this matter. Some haters will say what role does a Foreign Minister have in this, but why not?

There are international dispute resolution courts made exactly for this purpose.
 
PCB and Pakistan rulers are humiliating BCB and BD, treating Bangladeshis as mindless zombies with no brain or self respect.

This is what PCB tried to do with BCCI, pulling its players out of IPL at the last minute, forcing the world cup to move out of India. No one will forget these insults.
 
It’s an open secret what Qureshi is saying . He is a responsible guy and very careful what he says but sometime it OK to say the truth . BD needs to hear this, we are not dumb , you want to rely on India 100% for your survival, good luck .
 
Pathetic from him. Why make a such a big fuss over series with Bangladesh? These politicians first gave India such an impression that without them our cricket will be finished now they are doing same thing with Bangladesh.
No point to beg, force or talk too much if someone are not interested. Just move on and leave it to ICC. Winning against Bangladesh will not take us even 4th or 5th.
 
Chotey log like him doesn't deserve cricket. Kudos to Papon for putting them in their rightful place.

Papon doesn't know anything about cricket and recently got caught gambling but unpunished due to good relation with hasina.
 
It’s an open secret what Qureshi is saying . He is a responsible guy and very careful what he says but sometime it OK to say the truth . BD needs to hear this, we are not dumb , you want to rely on India 100% for your survival, good luck .

True!!! But by repeating things again and again they are making BCB feels powerful
 
I hope we are not short of burnol and rose petal tissues in Islamabad.

On a serious note, if India is indeed behind this, I say well done. They have done well to be in a position where they can influence others to hurt Pakistan.

If we were competent enough, we could have been in a position where we could have been able to hurt India by influencing others.

We can play the morality act now, but we all know that we would have done the same.
 
Papon doesn't know anything about cricket and recently got caught gambling but unpunished due to good relation with hasina.

Papon, Prez of a top Bangla CC for a decade. President of Asian Cricket Council, Head of BCB, does not know about cricket but Pak FM does!

When is the Afg scheduled to visit Pakistan! We will hear the same statements at that time!

It’s funny that none of the Bangla or Indian politician has said anything directly yet but Pak FM, no less, butts in to tell others not to indulge in politics! LOL
 
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I don’t know why our politicians and even pcb senior management can’t keep their mouths shut and just work quietly behind the scenes instead of mouthing off to the media about every thought that pops into their heads. Even a t20 tour is not likely now.
 
Hope Bangladesh/BCB hold their ground after all these accusations of subservience against them and dont succumb to pressure. Ab toh izzat ka sawaal hai.
 
Papon, Prez of a top Bangla CC for a decade. President of Asian Cricket Council, Head of BCB, does not know about cricket but Pak FM does!

When is the Afg scheduled to visit Pakistan! We will hear the same statements at that time!

It’s funny that none of the Bangla or Indian politician has said anything directly yet but Pak FM, no less, butts in to tell others not to indulge in politics! LOL

Mani was also had top position in ICC but how he is helping Pakistan? At least he didn't get caught gambling
 
I don’t know why our politicians and even pcb senior management can’t keep their mouths shut and just work quietly behind the scenes instead of mouthing off to the media about every thought that pops into their heads. Even a t20 tour is not likely now.

Exactly!!!! Just keep silent and Pay them back in time.
 
Papon, Prez of a top Bangla CC for a decade. President of Asian Cricket Council, Head of BCB, does not know about cricket but Pak FM does!

When is the Afg scheduled to visit Pakistan! We will hear the same statements at that time!

It’s funny that none of the Bangla or Indian politician has said anything directly yet but Pak FM, no less, butts in to tell others not to indulge in politics! LOL

So when Afghan cricket board accuse Pakistan of terrorism then its ok?
I don't like this FM but should keep his mouth shut. Its just 2 test matches. What a big deal? PCB can cancel the series for the time being and arrange other small teams to travel Pakistan also don't show any interest in cricket with BCB in future. Win win for both BCB and PCB.
 
Just playing to the galleries in Pakistan. PCB made tall claims that every series will happen only in Pakistan. Now that the reality has dawned upon them that it isn't happening, they are blaming India to save face.
 
Pakistan says cricket should not mix with politics.

On the other hand, their politicians make such remarkable and offensive comments.

Salute
 
Pakistan says cricket should not mix with politics.

On the other hand, their politicians make such remarkable and offensive comments.

Salute

Hes made a fair statement, a team of Sri Lanka's quality and rich history toured with no issues, yet the never ending minnows from bangla have issues, LOL
 
I guess what he's saying will ring true with many, but many will feel it shouldn't have come from him.
 
Hes made a fair statement, a team of Sri Lanka's quality and rich history toured with no issues, yet the never ending minnows from bangla have issues, LOL

Their onfield performances doesnt mean they can be pushed around.
 
Hes made a fair statement, a team of Sri Lanka's quality and rich history toured with no issues, yet the never ending minnows from bangla have issues, LOL

One of the talents a statesman should have is to know when to keep one's mouth shut
 
Their onfield performances doesnt mean they can be pushed around.

Pushed around haha.

PCB has asked BCB to clarify why they feel they cannot tour Pakistan, after Sri Lanka have, after ICC officials were in Pakistan and after the security experts said Pakistan was fine for international cricket.

If that's pushing around, then you must be one meek and rather soft individual.
 
He is in Government. May be he knows something but we don't.
So if he has access to state secrets he should blabber to everyone so that even 1% of tour happening will not happen now? He should use the knowledge to pressure BCB privately, not make public statements which will only cause BCB to be more rigid
 
Pushed around haha.

PCB has asked BCB to clarify why they feel they cannot tour Pakistan, after Sri Lanka have, after ICC officials were in Pakistan and after the security experts said Pakistan was fine for international cricket.

If that's pushing around, then you must be one meek and rather soft individual.
I guess what these people don't realise is that BCB is the one making the demands here, not the PCB. PCB is refusing to host BCB at a neutral venue, and that's their right.
 
It’s an open secret what Qureshi is saying . He is a responsible guy and very careful what he says but sometime it OK to say the truth . BD needs to hear this, we are not dumb , you want to rely on India 100% for your survival, good luck .
Best post on topic
 
I guess what these people don't realise is that BCB is the one making the demands here, not the PCB. PCB is refusing to host BCB at a neutral venue, and that's their right.

And the PCB has every right to ask an opponent IF, WHEN AND WHERE a series is to be played.
 
I guess what these people don't realise is that BCB is the one making the demands here, not the PCB. PCB is refusing to host BCB at a neutral venue, and that's their right.

Ofcourse its PCB's right to decide. Hopefully that right is asserted all the time and not only with the "minnow" board.
 
And the PCB has every right to ask an opponent IF, WHEN AND WHERE a series is to be played.

And this is what most people do not understand. It is Pakistan's home series and we are saying it has to be played in Pakistan. It is shocking that people are calling this arrogance, where as this is demanding what is rightfully ours.
 
Ofcourse its PCB's right to decide. Hopefully that right is asserted all the time and not only with the "minnow" board.

Again it is the right of PCB (and the Pakistani fans) who they assert it on. Why do you guys want to dictate who we want to play our home series with and where?
 
Pakistan says cricket should not mix with politics.

On the other hand, their politicians make such remarkable and offensive comments.

Salute

Yes, given that the BCB is not interested in sports at all, it make sense to just play politics.
 
Ofcourse its PCB's right to decide. Hopefully that right is asserted all the time and not only with the "minnow" board.

PCB asked the same questions of Sri Lanka Cricket as they are of BCB. Sri Lanka Cricket weren't jumping up and down about it, like you are.

Questions that they have every right to ask.

What do you want them to do? Not ask questions and then suddenly BCB show up in Pakistan without any planning etc from PCB.
 
Again it is the right of PCB (and the Pakistani fans) who they assert it on. Why do you guys want to dictate who we want to play our home series with and where?

Using a similar logic, it is the right of a board to refuse to play in Pakistan if they don’t feel safe sending their cricketers there. No one can dictate whether BCB should feel safe in Pakistan or not. It is BCB’s decision.

So, I guess there is no room for diplomacy or compromise.
 
To be frank yes he is right but why to say this in public ? It seems you are craving for bangladesh to visit pakistan.


why do pakistani politicians behave or make statements like illiterates in media ? Its not right to show such desperation in public
 
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Using a similar logic, it is the right of a board to refuse to play in Pakistan if they don’t feel safe sending their cricketers there. No one can dictate whether BCB should feel safe in Pakistan or not. It is BCB’s decision.

So, I guess there is no room for diplomacy or compromise.
Absolutely, but refuse on the basis of good reasoning. No one in Pakistan wants cricketers to come and not feel safe.

PCB can use precedence and ASK BCB, why they do not feel safe and whether there is enough they can do about it. If the BCB wants to continue playing petty politics, then there is no room for diplomacy. PCB is the only one in this situation who is intent on dialogue. Also, do not forget the BCB buffoon saying "we are trying to play T20s", after having confirmed a T20 tour atleast earlier :facepalm:
 
From a Pakistan point of view, Its logical for Pakistan to expect pressure from BCCI on BCB for the simple reason that it will do what its asked for by the GOI which is to isolate Pakistan.
 
One of the talents a statesman should have is to know when to keep one's mouth shut

I appreciate your concerns,

1. Let's face it you know I know bcci fronting up here for bcb
2. I hope what your called leader is up to that you show major concerns and go out in support for all the citizens of India where oppression is being implemented
 
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To be frank yes he is right but why to say this in public ? It seems you are craving for bangladesh to visit pakistan.


why do pakistani politicians behave or make statements like illiterates in media ? Its not right to show such desperation in public

And what of statement made in Indian media by Indian politicians? Best not to take this holier than thou attitude.
 
To be frank yes he is right but why to say this in public ? It seems you are craving for bangladesh to visit pakistan.


why do pakistani politicians behave or make statements like illiterates in media ? Its not right to show such desperation in public

Not desperation, just stating the FACT that a major nation has toured with no issues yet bangladesh are refusing to, with their pay masters putting pressure on them in the background
 
If BCB is not gonna provide clarity on its stance and are gonna keep on dodging the the question to provide solid facts and reasoning which have appeared after Srl tour and their countless players registering for PSL which have made them cautious then obviously they should be strong enough to hear the speculations which were gonna take place.

Anyways, even if they dont wanna tour good luck to them on their other countless tours and invitations in test cricket around the globe.
 
And what of statement made in Indian media by Indian politicians? Best not to take this holier than thou attitude.

Off course india has its share or illiterates, I don't deny it but thought at least being our neighbors you can learn from us not repeat the same mistakes our guyz do in media
 
Again it is the right of PCB (and the Pakistani fans) who they assert it on. Why do you guys want to dictate who we want to play our home series with and where?

Mani said that its PCB policy now to play all series at home. So its what he said and not what i am dictating.

Secondly if the policy changes from board to board, the other to has the right to decide what it wants to do.
 
Off course india has its share or illiterates, I don't deny it but thought at least being our neighbors you can learn from us not repeat the same mistakes our guyz do in media

No what we should not do is to think we are superior than others.
 
PCB asked the same questions of Sri Lanka Cricket as they are of BCB. Sri Lanka Cricket weren't jumping up and down about it, like you are.

Questions that they have every right to ask.

What do you want them to do? Not ask questions and then suddenly BCB show up in Pakistan without any planning etc from PCB.

When SLC initially refused to come for tests, i said that after spending 15 days in Pakistan for LoIs SL has no excuse not to tour for tests.

You really think BCB will suddenly turn up?

Thing is that there is too much talk via media. When the talks should be inside rooms.

Dragging in India now and putting the blane on BD govt. How will this actually help?
 
From a Pakistan point of view, Its logical for Pakistan to expect pressure from BCCI on BCB for the simple reason that it will do what its asked for by the GOI which is to isolate Pakistan.

Why the pressure csnt be on SLC? They are more dependent on Bcci tours than BCB.

Or may be pcb is seeing that the chances of the tour is bleak, so lets blame India?
 
BCB,s policy of in bed with BCCI might work for them in short term but they will regret this in long term when India will keep most of the cricket activities among big four and BD will not be included. Six others will have to support each other to survive and Pakistan will be the strongest among rest of the six and BCB will feel the pinch .
 
When SLC initially refused to come for tests, i said that after spending 15 days in Pakistan for LoIs SL has no excuse not to tour for tests.

You really think BCB will suddenly turn up?

Thing is that there is too much talk via media. When the talks should be inside rooms.

Dragging in India now and putting the blane on BD govt. How will this actually help?

Yes lots of talk via media, largely from the rather confused head of the BCB who is looking for a different excuse every day.

PCB has every right to put reasonable pressure on BCB as pure and simple at this time BCB has no excuses not to tour Pakistan.
 
BCB,s policy of in bed with BCCI might work for them in short term but they will regret this in long term when India will keep most of the cricket activities among big four and BD will not be included. Six others will have to support each other to survive and Pakistan will be the strongest among rest of the six and BCB will feel the pinch .

How will joining hand with a bankrupt and pariah PCB help BCB? India will keep most of the money within itself and with top 3 of course. But even 5% of BCCI funds shared with its ally boards ( by inviting BCB and SLC more often and in IPl) will be more than what PCB can do even if it shares 100% of its earning.

Not that PCB has any stellar record of helping any other board. Even Pakistan got its test status thanks to BCCI, BCB played it’s first match on India and Afg regularly played all its home series in India. Nepal is getting taste of international cricket thanks to India.

What has PCB to give except trying to insult and boss around BCB. BCB honchos are not idiots.
 
[MENTION=148727]Babbar[/MENTION] , I’m not impressed With your knowledge of cricket history and analysis of things to come in near future, but do respect your opinion.
 
Yes lots of talk via media, largely from the rather confused head of the BCB who is looking for a different excuse every day.

PCB has every right to put reasonable pressure on BCB as pure and simple at this time BCB has no excuses not to tour Pakistan.

Exactly, Should we allow the BCB to dictate terms here, after all Sri Lanka came here and found thigns perfectly fine, So how come things are different fro BCB....They really have no excuse to not come. First of all their fans were like why they using us as pawns and ask other boards to come first, we have done that and still they are humming and hawing.
 
Well said Mr. Qureshi.

PCB has been a punching bag for far too long. BCB and other boards need to hear this.

Judging by some posters reaction on here it seems that every other cricket board has a right to watch out for their interests except PCB.

Security in Pakistan has improved leaps and bounds in the past 5 years. Every independent report on Pakistan security situation reflects this.

There is no ground for the lame excuses we hear every day from One individual in BCB who is acting like a buffoon because he is still hurt by what happened a few years ago.
 
When SLC initially refused to come for tests, i said that after spending 15 days in Pakistan for LoIs SL has no excuse not to tour for tests.

You really think BCB will suddenly turn up?

Thing is that there is too much talk via media. When the talks should be inside rooms.

Dragging in India now and putting the blane on BD govt. How will this actually help?

I don't know why you are desperate to see no cricket in Pakistan that you have to pollute every thread by spreading lies and misinformation on this topic.

There is a time for being soft and diplomatic and there is time to stand your ground and show some balls. PCB (and a lot of people in Pakistan) has had enough of this circus.

ICC and the international cricket is a community and you simply cannot isolate a country like Pakistan for no reason.
 
Exactly, Should we allow the BCB to dictate terms here, after all Sri Lanka came here and found thigns perfectly fine, So how come things are different fro BCB....They really have no excuse to not come. First of all their fans were like why they using us as pawns and ask other boards to come first, we have done that and still they are humming and hawing.

Can you people maintain the same stance with England and Australia? If Lanka can tour Pakistan then so can England, NZ, SA, India surely?
 
Can you people maintain the same stance with England and Australia? If Lanka can tour Pakistan then so can England, NZ, SA, India surely?

Absolutely, what I would say is mcc led by kumar sangakara are sending a team out next year.
 
Can you people maintain the same stance with England and Australia? If Lanka can tour Pakistan then so can England, NZ, SA, India surely?

You act like PCB has committed an act of huge disrespect to BCB by simply asking the reason for not touring.

This is not about Bangladesh. Pakistan is safe for cricket. Period. Similar questions will be asked of other boards if they refuse to tour.
 
I don't know why you are desperate to see no cricket in Pakistan that you have to pollute every thread by spreading lies and misinformation on this topic.

There is a time for being soft and diplomatic and there is time to stand your ground and show some balls. PCB (and a lot of people in Pakistan) has had enough of this circus.

ICC and the international cricket is a community and you simply cannot isolate a country like Pakistan for no reason.

Exactly!!!! There are some posters in this forum are dying to prove Pakistan is not safe for cricket.
 
Can you people maintain the same stance with England and Australia? If Lanka can tour Pakistan then so can England, NZ, SA, India surely?

Why would we try to boss around boards that are bigger than us?

If you are working for a company, are you more likely to argue with your boss or with a employee that is as (if not less) powerful than you?

So why are you expecting us to do something different?
 
Can you people maintain the same stance with England and Australia? If Lanka can tour Pakistan then so can England, NZ, SA, India surely?

I think PCB chairman Ehsan Mani has already made that clear. [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] has been raising that question in almost every thread when this has been answered number of times.

Last time NZ and Aus toured was in later half of 2018; after that a successful leg of PSL, ODIs and T20s matches vs Srl along with test matches have already taken place. Successful completion of ODIs and tests against Srl has obviously given much more weight to PCBs stance than before.

So obviously the stance would be to play all the matches at home.

Also while I dont want to disrespect any cricketing board or nation; fact is BD team isnt in very high demand in tests so playing in UAE makes it a very costly affair even if PCB wants to lighten the grip on their initial stance.
 
India is a petty nation when it comes to Pakistan.

India has on multiple occasion has said they would do absolutely anything and everything to isolate Pakistan, officials of India have said that, not some butt hurt RSS/BJP/HIndutva supporters on a forum who are afraid to admit they support backward ideology, again, officials have.

There is countless evidence where India have tried to influence 3rd parties to isolate Pakistan if they can.

So it wouldn't surprise anyone if India could influence Bangladesh if they could.

You will see few RSS/BJP/Hindutva goon trying to portray India as an angle country but have you watched the news lately? lol
 
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I don't know why you are desperate to see no cricket in Pakistan that you have to pollute every thread by spreading lies and misinformation on this topic.

There is a time for being soft and diplomatic and there is time to stand your ground and show some balls. PCB (and a lot of people in Pakistan) has had enough of this circus.

ICC and the international cricket is a community and you simply cannot isolate a country like Pakistan for no reason.

Guy has to defend every wrong of BCCI, BJP, and RSS at any cost. lifelong mission.
 
India is a petty nation when it comes to Pakistan.

India has on multiple occasion has said they would do absolutely anything and everything to isolate Pakistan, officials of India have said that, not some butt hurt RSS/BJP/HIndutva supporters on a forum who are afraid to admit they support backward ideology, again, officials have.

There is countless evidence where India have tried to influence 3rd parties to isolate Pakistan if they can.

So it wouldn't surprise anyone if India could influence Bangladesh if they could.

You will see few RSS/BJP/Hindutva goon trying to portray India as an angle country but have you watched the news lately? lol

With imran in charge they can only dream of isolating pakistan
 
Didn't Pakistan cancel your to Bangladesh before? Or what was the issue earlier between PCB and BCB? Surely, BCB won't forget that
 
Handled poorly all around, even if true. Think there are enough ppl talking about this.
 
In case of SL,itvwas Science and Technology minister
Now it was turn of Foreign minister

Next it will be Ministervof Railways -my prediction

Being at a certain post doesnt necessarily takes away the right of freedom of speech from anybody; yes there is an added responsibility but there is nothing wrong with giving your stance and a sport is a form of relationship with countries as well and FM highlighting certain things regarding BD's lack of clarity is nothing wrong.

Also surprising that how some Indian posters are commenting on someone being at a position commenting on this issue; when countless number of their politicians, ones sitting on positions and who were not even related as well have given much much more irresponsible statements regarding the current issues going on in India and there are countless other precedents as well.

I dont want to derail the cricket forum but some posters need to know more about whats going in their country before lavishly giving out blunt statements.
 
Being at a certain post doesnt necessarily takes away the right of freedom of speech from anybody; yes there is an added responsibility but there is nothing wrong with giving your stance and a sport is a form of relationship with countries as well and FM highlighting certain things regarding BD's lack of clarity is nothing wrong.

Also surprising that how some Indian posters are commenting on someone being at a position commenting on this issue; when countless number of their politicians, ones sitting on positions and who were not even related as well have given much much more irresponsible statements regarding the current issues going on in India and there are countless other precedents as well.

I dont want to derail the cricket forum but some posters need to know more about whats going in their country before lavishly giving out blunt statements.

This moral high ground applies to all sides and if your side is involved , then you can't take moral high ground.
 
You act like PCB has committed an act of huge disrespect to BCB by simply asking the reason for not touring.

This is not about Bangladesh. Pakistan is safe for cricket. Period. Similar questions will be asked of other boards if they refuse to tour.

I have no issue with that then
 
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