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ICC announces the groups and fixtures for the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 [Update Post#19]

Does anyone know all the venue's apart from Edgbaston and Cardiff?
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
If Bangladesh can reach the next round knocking out Eng and Nz their limited overs team can treated as a true threat for future even outside B'desh, good chance for them.

India's team is basically champ Kohli+ageing Dhoni and 9 hit and miss players, not sure if we will be through unless we inject some new ones in the mean time.
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Hope bd will shock the world in CT...
 
Aamir vs Kohli Part II :81:

Last time Aamir was raw and just back from the ban. Yet he tore the Indian top order apart.

This time he'll be in form and have gained from having toured England lately.

That one wicket and India will be under severe pressure.
 
shortbread said:
Aamir vs Kohli Part II :81:

Last time Aamir was raw and just back from the ban. Yet he tore the Indian top order apart.

This time he'll be in form and have gained from having toured England lately.

That one wicket and India will be under severe pressure.
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It's part III actually:narine
 
Not the best grouping though. I understand ICC wants to make sure there are these 2 ties - AUS/ENG & IND/PAK; but that could have been done with other combinations as well. Ranking might change in 1 years time, but as of today No. 1, 2, 5 & 6 in one group is not fair. Ideally, it should be sum of position is 18 (1, 2, ... 8 = 36, so balanced group should be when the sum is 18 in each group). AUS (1), IND (3), ENG (5), PAK (9 ~8)

That can be done with one group of 1, 3, 6, 8; or 1, 2, 7, 8; or 1, 3, 6, 8 or 1, 4, 5, 8; or 1, 4, 6, 7 ..... combination. That 1458 combination could have ensured AUS/ENG & IND/PAK in a relatively balanced groupings.

I don't think, ICC has done this numerical analysis - still, exchanging BD or NZ with SRL would have made the groups much more closer. Obviously, ranking can change in a year time, but what I predict a possible 1, 3, 4 & 5/6 in Group A; while 2, 5/6, 7 & 8/9 in group B.

Tough for us, but, we'll need to win 2 games - just for a record, we did beat AUS & ENG in UK 10 years back ........ let's see.
 
MMHS said:
Not the best grouping though. I understand ICC wants to make sure there are these 2 ties - AUS/ENG & IND/PAK; but that could have been done with other combinations as well. Ranking might change in 1 years time, but as of today No. 1, 2, 5 & 6 in one group is not fair. Ideally, it should be sum of position is 18 (1, 2, ... 8 = 36, so balanced group should be when the sum is 18 in each group). AUS (1), IND (3), ENG (5), PAK (9 ~8)

That can be done with one group of 1, 3, 6, 8; or 1, 2, 7, 8; or 1, 3, 6, 8 or 1, 4, 5, 8; or 1, 4, 6, 7 ..... combination. That 1458 combination could have ensured AUS/ENG & IND/PAK in a relatively balanced groupings.

I don't think, ICC has done this numerical analysis - still, exchanging BD or NZ with SRL would have made the groups much more closer. Obviously, ranking can change in a year time, but what I predict a possible 1, 3, 4 & 5/6 in Group A; while 2, 5/6, 7 & 8/9 in group B.

Tough for us, but, we'll need to win 2 games - just for a record, we did beat AUS & ENG in UK 10 years back ........ let's see.
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They were done from the ranking at the end of September therefore the groups are split 1,4,6,7 and 2,3,5,8.
 
HitWicket said:
They were done from the ranking at the end of September therefore the groups are split 1,4,6,7 and 2,3,5,8.
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I see, fair enough.

Probably, Pakistan & Srilanka's sharp decline has made this look unbalanced. May be in a year time, SRL & definitely PAK 'll gain some credibility (might not reflect in the ranking), which should balance out the groups; but still A group is much stronger in a tournament in UK.
 
If Pakistan is going to have Azhar as captain asad shafiq as a batsman and some other players such as anwar ali sarfraz Ahmed then they can say goodbye to their chances of winning a single match
 
I like the groups they have even groups any team from any group can make the semis
 
Sandeep said:
India needs to start developing players for 2017 CT and 2019 WC. We have too many gaps..
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That's not important indian players will be tired after playing in IPL next year. Hopefully some senior players will take rest and skip the not so important champions trophy. :inti
 
Really weird to see West Indies not playing an ICC tournament.. Surely they should have had qualifiers between Pak, Ban, WI and Ireland before the main draw.. Would have been a great appetizer before the real matches
 
street cricketer said:
What a defeatist mentality from the Pakistan captain:facepalm:

Look at all others' interviews and look at Azhar Ali's. Mashrafe gives a more optimistic vibe than Azhar Ali.
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Mashrafe is actually a very insprirational player who knows how to lift his team up. He took a mediocre side and helped it win a lot of matches in since Nov 14, before which we lost to even Honk Kong under little Mushy
 
Well there goes our chances in qualifying for the semis, another win to India. I defo know who to put my money on.
 
Didn't ICC tried to scrap this tournament earlier? The success of the previous one made them rethink I believe. Btw this tourney is toughest one than WC coz only strongest team participate this event!
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
That's not important indian players will be tired after playing in IPL next year. Hopefully some senior players will take rest and skip the not so important champions trophy. :inti
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Will franchises allow the players though? Also the other top overseas players will have the same problem. Maybe something can work in favour of Pakistan :msd
 
I'd be very very surprised infact shocked if the Aussies don't bag this one. Australia, Eng will be the two SF. There will be a dog fight for the other two spots. BD will crash the hopes of one of the teams. SL will be dead last.
 
Hasan123 said:
Will franchises allow the players though? Also the other top overseas players will have the same problem. Maybe something can work in favour of Pakistan :msd
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Not necessarily. If there's a bit of time, Pakistani players will be sent to discipline camps. They will be the most tired lot
 
rhony said:
Not necessarily. If there's a bit of time, Pakistani players will be sent to discipline camps. They will be the most tired lot
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1 camp won't tire them out lool that's a myth. I would have a skills camp and a boot camp like we have for upcoming England tour
 
Hasan123 said:
1 camp won't tire them out lool that's a myth. I would have a skills camp and a boot camp like we have for upcoming England tour
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Provided they stay fit after this Eng series. If they go back their old ways, the lessons will be tougher.
 
Two observations:
1.Isn't it unfair with bangladesh that it's opponents are those who are are well in english condition? All other teams who are not well in english condition (ind,pak,sl) are all in other group. Is it a conspiracy against bd to knock them out early???

2..Is it a cash making fixture to make ind and pak clash???
 
The only hope and inspiration of bd despite unfair (eng,aus,nz having favorable pitch condition) fixture is bangladesh beat Australia and England in england in the past...
 
Xeeebon said:
Two observations:
1.Isn't it unfair with bangladesh that it's opponents are those who are are well in english condition? All other teams who are not well in english condition (ind,pak,sl) are all in other group. Is it a conspiracy against bd to knock them out early???

2..Is it a cash making fixture to make ind and pak clash???
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2nd one bro.

But look at it like this, this is BD's time to shine and put their name on the map. :shakib
 
Xeeebon said:
Two observations:
1.Isn't it unfair with bangladesh that it's opponents are those who are are well in english condition? All other teams who are not well in english condition (ind,pak,sl) are all in other group. Is it a conspiracy against bd to knock them out early???

2..Is it a cash making fixture to make ind and pak clash???
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There is no conspiracy against Bangladesh.

Most logical conclusion is that you were just the left over team
 
Convict said:
There is no conspiracy against Bangladesh.

Most logical conclusion is that you were just the left over team
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I need not to worry 😃 because bd will make it to semis by beating nz and england with 2 4fers of rubel 2 3fers of taskin and run checking by fizz and 2 centuries by tamim and riyadh's and quick half centuries by sabbir's and by the support of other players 😃😀
 
Suleiman said:
2nd one bro.

But look at it like this, this is BD's time to shine and put their name on the map. :shakib
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Yah,why not...and hopefully we will do it by lifting champions trophy �� ����
 
kinda sucks that the tourney falls under ramadan next year, regardless best of luck to Pakistan
 
Firebreaker said:
He should have retired after CT2013.His form and fitness dipped drastically after that
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Yes. Even I thought so, but he came back strongly before the T20 WC. Was fitter, stronger, faster. Obviously he cannot win every game.
 
nextover666666 said:
kinda sucks that the tourney falls under ramadan next year, regardless best of luck to Pakistan
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I always had this question. It is sincere. Do players fast during Ramadan? If so, doesn't it impact their performance?
 
Firebreaker said:
He should have retired after CT2013.His form and fitness dipped drastically after that
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He made a smart move by retiring from tests. Honestly, his captaincy was poor in tests but as a keeper batsman, he was alright in tests.

India does not have a finisher that can replace Dhoni. Raina should have taken that spot but was inexplicably moved to No. 4. Also, Raina's poor form is a huge worry for India. The Pandeys, Pandya's and Rahuls are all untested. MSD is still the best finisher in the team. Its just that he's not as consistent as before. His captaincy in LOIs is still good too. His keeping is top notch. There is no reason for him to retire yet.
 
My 24 Players Pool for CT :-)



1. Sharjeel
2. Sami/Ahsan/Imam
3. Babar
4. Umar
5. Haris/Saud
6. Sarfraz (c/vc)
7. Imad (c/vc)
8. Amad/Kamran Ghulam
9. Amir
10. Asghar/Usama/Shadab
11. Sadaf/Ali/Altaf/Ghulam


12. Amin
13. Sohaib
14. Rizwan
15. Yamin



From Now On pick 17 from these 24 and Put remaining 7 players in Pakistan A team and add


Zeeshan Malik

Hasan Raza

Bilal Shah

Saif Badar

Zafar Gohar

Umar (leggie)

Zahid Jnr

Rehan Afridi

Rafay Ahmed

Agha Salman



In Pakistan A





So Total 34 players Pool from which Pakistan and Pakistan A is fixed 95 % of times.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
My 24 Players Pool for CT :-)



1. Sharjeel
2. Sami/Ahsan/Imam
3. Babar
4. Umar
5. Haris/Saud
6. Sarfraz (c/vc)
7. Imad (c/vc)
8. Amad/Kamran Ghulam
9. Amir
10. Asghar/Usama/Shadab
11. Sadaf/Ali/Altaf/Ghulam


12. Amin
13. Sohaib
14. Rizwan
15. Yamin



From Now On pick 17 from these 24 and Put remaining 7 players in Pakistan A team and add


Zeeshan Malik

Hasan Raza

Bilal Shah

Saif Badar

Zafar Gohar

Umar (leggie)

Zahid Jnr

Rehan Afridi

Rafay Ahmed

Agha Salman



In Pakistan A





So Total 34 players Pool from which Pakistan and Pakistan A is fixed 95 % of times.
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What about Nawaz, Fakhar in the national squad?

And on what basis are Zeeshan Malik, Hasan Raza and Bilal Shah ahead of Hasan Mohsin, Umair Masood and Sameen Gul.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
My 24 Players Pool for CT :-)



1. Sharjeel
2. Sami/Ahsan/Imam
3. Babar
4. Umar
5. Haris/Saud
6. Sarfraz (c/vc)
7. Imad (c/vc)
8. Amad/Kamran Ghulam
9. Amir
10. Asghar/Usama/Shadab
11. Sadaf/Ali/Altaf/Ghulam


12. Amin
13. Sohaib
14. Rizwan
15. Yamin



From Now On pick 17 from these 24 and Put remaining 7 players in Pakistan A team and add


Zeeshan Malik

Hasan Raza

Bilal Shah

Saif Badar

Zafar Gohar

Umar (leggie)

Zahid Jnr

Rehan Afridi

Rafay Ahmed

Agha Salman



In Pakistan A





So Total 34 players Pool from which Pakistan and Pakistan A is fixed 95 % of times.
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Only if you was a selector. We would have had a bright future.
 
Sorry to put a dampener on things, I expect a very rainy June next year.
India v Pakistan to be Draw in group stage and Pakistan to win the tournament on the toss of the coin.

Will England make it pass the group stages?
 
silent ischemia said:
What about Nawaz, Fakhar in the national squad?

And on what basis are Zeeshan Malik, Hasan Raza and Bilal Shah ahead of Hasan Mohsin, Umair Masood and Sameen Gul.
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Make it 35 with Majid Ali.


Sadly Fakhar has developed Bad Habits in batting which has affected his technique and 16 Months ago Nauman Anwar would have made Top 20 players but some Coach destroyed his stance, bat flow and technique after he was dropped from Pakistan team.


Umair Masood not int Class. Hasan Mohsin not good enough yet. Sameen needs to regain his pace which don't know he would ever again or not. Injuries destroyed next Amir. He was Bowling 140 kph at Age 14 and now at 18 can't go beyond 137 whereas if he did not get injuries than by bow He would have been touching 150 kph.


From Pakistan U-19 only 2 players have SkillSet and Potential to Make Pakistan A directly Zeeshan & Shadab while Saif is also near them. None other. I know Allrounder performances n watched him closely (Hasan Mohsin)
 
group b is significantly weaker. should be an easy path to the semis for SA and india
 
Khan12 said:
Only if you was a selector. We would have had a bright future.
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Pray for My Professional Goal of Becoming a Bio Medical Scientist.


Cricket was my Passion & first desire but changed career path soon.


Let's speak for deserving players. Players do come into Reckoning through PP. Atleast Players with whom I talk acknowledge this fact.


Would love if Inzi logs on daily on PP for 30 min surfing.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Make it 35 with Majid Ali.


Sadly Fakhar has developed Bad Habits in batting which has affected his technique and 16 Months ago Nauman Anwar would have made Top 20 players but some Coach destroyed his stance, bat flow and technique after he was dropped from Pakistan team.


Umair Masood not int Class. Hasan Mohsin not good enough yet. Sameen needs to regain his pace which don't know he would ever again or not. Injuries destroyed next Amir. He was Bowling 140 kph at Age 14 and now at 18 can't go beyond 137 whereas if he did not get injuries than by bow He would have been touching 150 kph.


From Pakistan U-19 only 2 players have SkillSet and Potential to Make Pakistan A directly Zeeshan & Shadab while Saif is also near them. None other. I know Allrounder performances n watched him closely (Hasan Mohsin)
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Well I disagree. I think it will be Umair Masood vs Muhammad Hassan for the wicket keeper spot once Sarfraz goes. Masood is good. As batsmen both Masood and Mohsin are better than Zeeshan. Zeeshan reminds me of Khurram Manzoor.

There is another batsman Hassaan Khan. Watch out for him.
 
Xeeebon said:
I need not to worry 😃 because bd will make it to semis by beating nz and england with 2 4fers of rubel 2 3fers of taskin and run checking by fizz and 2 centuries by tamim and riyadh's and quick half centuries by sabbir's and by the support of other players 😃😀
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Lol i hear similar thing before t20 worldcup 2016 but bangladesh fail to win a single match in the worldcup.

Ban is good odi side but no way bangladesh are going to semis in champions trophy

Aus,india,England,Nz/south africa will be final four team
 
I hope that Bangladesh will be the ICC Champions Trophy Champ.

But I know that Bangladesh will at least make it to the semis. (We always play well against NZ, England are our ICC tournament bunny in ODIs)

And another thing,

1997 - BD won ICC Trophy

2007 - BD for the first time surpassed the group stage in a WC.

2017 - BD will definitely surpass the group stage of ICC Champions Trophy and if play to the full potential then it should eventually win it.
 
silent ischemia said:
Well I disagree. I think it will be Umair Masood vs Muhammad Hassan for the wicket keeper spot once Sarfraz goes. Masood is good. As batsmen both Masood and Mohsin are better than Zeeshan. Zeeshan reminds me of Khurram Manzoor.

There is another batsman Hassaan Khan. Watch out for him.
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You also watch out for him :)


Hassaan Khan was the most Talented School Batsman at Under 15 level in Sindh. He is one for the future but needs atleast 4 years hence I did not include him into my list of 35.


No Mohsin has just started bowling Seam Up and has not got the height unless He becomes 6 feet tall provided He avoids Gym which is unlikely (knowing Pak)


Masood is also nothing to be excited about.



Rehan Afridi is the best Batsman on the Eye in Pak Fc after Sarfraz & Rizwan. Hasn't got required consistent chances in limited formats because he is from FATA and gets 2 matches after an year or 2 years hence revord isn't good.
 
Bewal Express said:
The Ind game is In Ramadhan, otherwise I would have tried to get tickets.
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If we beat India - we will progress because SL have become our bunnies in all formats.

We historically have a good record against SAF in ICC tournaments so it could go either way.
 
I think it will be like this:
Semi 1: Aus vs Pak
Semi 2: Eng vs SA
Final: Aus vs SA
Winners: SA
 
Anik Sharma said:
I hope that Bangladesh will be the ICC Champions Trophy Champ.

But I know that Bangladesh will at least make it to the semis. (We always play well against NZ, England are our ICC tournament bunny in ODIs)

And another thing,

1997 - BD won ICC Trophy

2007 - BD for the first time surpassed the group stage in a WC.

2017 - BD will definitely surpass the group stage of ICC Champions Trophy and if play to the full potential then it should eventually win it.
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Lol man, some of you don't know where to draw the line. Bangladesh are improving but seriously NZ and England are probably the best 2 ODI sides going around.

Pitches in England wont be typical Bangla or Asian tracks, so no they wont be your bunnies. Just pray hope that they dont smack 500 vs you.
 
What is the point of the ICC Champions Trophy?

I don't understand the point of the Champions Trophy when you already have a 50 over World Cup as the marquee event.

Is it just a money making scheme? It should be scrapped IMO.
 
Uzi said:
I don't understand the point of the Champions Trophy when you already have a 50 over World Cup as the marquee event.

Is it just a money making scheme? It should be scrapped IMO.
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You have the answer right there. You don't discontinue something that makes money.
 
England will beat South Africa to win the finals. You heard it here first. Your welcome.
 
Uzi said:
I don't understand the point of the Champions Trophy when you already have a 50 over World Cup as the marquee event.

Is it just a money making scheme? It should be scrapped IMO.
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It's 2 years later in England as well.

I don't know when my exams finish so didn't bother buying any tickets, maybe if Pak progress further in the tournament and there's hype around our team I might pay a bit extra for my ticket to see them but if not am not bothered because the World Cup is around the corner and am a lot more excited for that.
 
Edgbaston secures temporary stand to bolster capacity for ICC Champions Trophy 2017



Edgbaston, Birmingham: More fans can see the world’s best cricketers in action at Edgbaston Stadium this summer, after Warwickshire County Cricket Club confirmed installation of a temporary stand to increase capacity for the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 in June.

Edgbaston hosts five of the biggest matches in the ICC Champions Trophy 2017, including Australia v New Zealand, India v Pakistan, Pakistan v South Africa, England v Australia and a semi-final. More than 21,000 tickets combined for these games at Edgbaston will be released on general sale on at 12pm BST on Wednesday 5 April, following confirmation of the temporary stand and returns from tournament partners, such as sponsors, ICC family and travel providers.

Gareth Roberts, Commercial Director at Edgbaston, said: “We successfully boosted the capacity of Edgbaston by more than 800 seats by using a temporary stand at the Investec Ashes Test match and NatWest T20 Blast Finals Day in 2015. With such high demand for the ICC Champions Trophy 2017, we were keen to secure its return and give even more people the chance to see one of the greatest international cricket tournaments in Birmingham.

“Major redevelopment projects at Edgbaston and in the city centre have helped the stadium and Birmingham be great hosts for cricket’s marquee fixtures. We’re very excited to host the ICC Champions Trophy again in 2017 and look forward to welcoming fans from around the world to this great city in June.”

Edgbaston is second biggest cricket venue in the United Kingdom, after Lord’s, and has been one of the three chosen ICC Champions Trophy host venues on the previous occasions that the tournament has been staged in England and Wales, in 2004 and 2013. In 2017, it hosts the event alongside The Oval in London and the Cardiff Wales Stadium.

Steve Elworthy, ICC Champions Trophy Tournament Director, said: “Edgbaston is a fantastic ground to watch cricket and we are delighted to welcome the additional attendance the temporary stand offers.

"The love of cricket in the midlands always leads to a high demand for tickets and it’s a real boost to open the doors to over 21,000 more fans to enjoy the unique atmosphere of a ICC global event.”
 
Pakistan: 332 (Babar 123, Amir 4-16, Junaid 3-23) beat India: 120 (Rahul 52, Shami 4-66) by 212 runs.

India knocked out in the next game. Mauka chooth gaya. :sanga
 
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Good to see that seats are increased thus allowing even more crowd to see these much awaited matches.
 
Bilal7 said:
Pakistan: 332 (Babar 123, Amir 4-16, Junaid 3-23) beat India: 120 (Rahul 52, Shami 4-66) by 212 runs.

India knocked out in the next game. Mauka chooth gaya. :sanga
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really looking forward to watching Junaid vs India again, if we get a lively wicket then God help the Indians
 
Citizen4 said:
really looking forward to watching Junaid vs India again, if we get a lively wicket then God help the Indians
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Well atleast you are already on point - If Junaid does well - It was a lively wicket , If Junaid does horribly - Pitch was bad . Win-win situation !
Many other better players in either side , expect a cracker regardless of the pitch
 
bleaf27 said:
Well atleast you are already on point - If Junaid does well - It was a lively wicket , If Junaid does horribly - Pitch was bad . Win-win situation !
Many other better players in either side , expect a cracker regardless of the pitch
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if we get a lively pitch we have a better chacne
 
Shadab is going to get Kohli #likh lou



I just hope it is a lively pitch. I love seeing Indians dancing all over the place.
 
Citizen4 said:
if we get a lively pitch we have a better chacne
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Lively pitch would fancy any bowler's chance. Regardless of the pitch - when you are an international calibre player - do your homework before , read the pitch , prepare yourself and give your 100 %
 
Syed1 said:
Shadab is going to get Kohli #likh lou



I just hope it is a lively pitch. I love seeing Indians dancing all over the place.
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Well you know Indians do produce some quality dance numbers themselves :fizz
 
aloo paratha said:
Who's gonna get us to 332?? Kamran? Shehzad??
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Babar, Sarfaraz, Wasim and yes, Shehzad will play a good one at the top.

Syed1 said:
Shadab is going to get Kohli #likh lou



I just hope it is a lively pitch. I love seeing Indians dancing all over the place.
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Pehley Amir aur Junaid ko toh khel ley.

Citizen4 said:
really looking forward to watching Junaid vs India again, if we get a lively wicket then God help the Indians
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LOL. I would pay good money to see the Indians get destroyed on a lively pitch after each and every single one of them fills their boots in the #IPL10 #IPLMasti #We<3PakButLet'sNotPLayCricketForAWhile.

Amir and Junaid bowling to Sharma, Rahul and Kohli first up on a balanced pitch will be excellent cricket.
 
Bilal7 said:
LOL. I would pay good money to see the Indians get destroyed on a lively pitch after each and every single one of them fills their boots in the #IPL10 #IPLMasti #We<3PakButLet'sNotPLayCricketForAWhile.

Amir and Junaid bowling to Sharma, Rahul and Kohli first up on a balanced pitch will be excellent cricket.
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LOL Yeah, their openers are really struggling regardless of the pitch. If we get a balanced pitch then Amir's swing and Junaid's seam bowling will rip apart Indian top oder just like Aane Do series.
 
Bilal7 said:
Babar, Sarfaraz, Wasim and yes, Shehzad will play a good one at the top.



Pehley Amir aur Junaid ko toh khel ley.



LOL. I would pay good money to see the Indians get destroyed on a lively pitch after each and every single one of them fills their boots in the #IPL10 #IPLMasti #We<3PakButLet'sNotPLayCricketForAWhile.

Amir and Junaid bowling to Sharma, Rahul and Kohli first up on a balanced pitch will be excellent cricket.
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Because gun barrel straight pies would worry the Indian's especially at modest pace.
 
Hassan Ali, Amir, Sarfraz, Shadab, Babar, Imad would play crucial role. If Sharjeel plays, he would be the highest scorer.
 
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