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ICC Men's T20 World Cup | Semi-Final | Pakistan v Australia | Dubai | 11 Nov | Pre-match discussion

Which side will win the ICC T20 World Cup Semi-Final game between Pakistan and Australia?


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What changes do we expect Pakistan to make - Should they make any changes?

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Hussey v Ajmal & Rahat with that drop off Watson. It's been a year to break disbelief I suppose.
 
Shaheen will have to be on spot against Aussie openers and we will need a bit of luck to get Smith out early.

Semifinal will be a tougher game than the final itself.

Insha'Allah we got this. Come on Pakistan! Let's go!
 
Drop Hassan Ali. He’s going to cost us the game with his bowling. His batting won’t be needed because we already bat deep.

Bring Fakhar up the order and drop Rizwan down to 3.

Bring in Mohammad Wasim.
 
No changes I think. I feel fakhar will fire in the semi or finals. I feel aus will bat first score about 150-160, and we chase this down in a close game!
 
This is the match if Pakistan can somehow win would set us up really nicely to lift the trophy. But winning is a big IF when it comes to Pakistan vs Australia in knockout games.

For me personally our MVPs are follows and if we are to have a good game the following should bring their best game.
1. Babar - He likes pace on ball, he likes to dominate against good pace so naturally all eyes would be him to set us up in batting.
2. Hafeez - He is really elegant against good pace bowlers and with his golf practice coming good his swing in the V could give Pakistan a much needed impetus in batting.
3. Imad - I believe if he gets good first 4 overs and not only tighten the run-rate but nip out Finch and Marsh then it could raise spirits of other bowlers.

Apart from pointing the 3 above its a team game and all 11 should play to best of their ability to force a win against Australia. We need Shaheen to find the swing he got against India, we need Rizwan mental toughness to pick players through the game, we need Hasan to own up to his responsibilities and deliver for the team, we need Haris, Malik and Asif not wilt under pressure and we need Fakhar to somehow lift himself for the team (he would not be replaced before semis).

From the opposition side its obvious they have mental edge over us for years. Apart from that Warner has just hit form which is ominous signs for us and Steve Smith is yet to click whilst he has had better of Pakistan in knockouts. We need to be very wary of Hazlewood as he can nip our openers in powerplay and Maxwell just because he is the big show.

Overall, this will be a massive hurdle for Pakistan from mental, cricketing ability and physical ability point of view. I wish Pakistan all the best.
 
No changes required just need to tell Hasan to stop bowling too many slower onesunnecessarily,and out more effort in bowling faster ones. What ever happens it will be a cracker of a game, this Pakistan team does not collapse easily.
 
Would rather have faced England in the semi final. Pakistan have a mental issue against Australia in knock out stage of world ICC events. 1987 and 1999 world Cup are painful memories as is 2010 T20 SF.
 
Only 3 players can prevent Pakistan from winning this game.

Hasan Ali, Haris Rauf and Mohammad Rizwan.

If either or both become spray guns or Rizwan eats up too many balls without effect, Aus can beat us.
 
Pak must not come out with such a timid approach in batting against the Aussies ... They won't get away with it

And I am in favor of Nawaz replacing Hasan as latter has been terrible ... An extra spinner can put the choke hold on Aussies
 
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Hope we beat Aussies and then meet the Kiwis again in the final I think we need to provide more adequate security arrangements to them
 
I would make the following changes:

1 - Make Fakhar open, and drop Babar to #3. He can slog in the powerplay overs.

2 - Bowl Hafeez at least 2 overs so we dont need to rely on Hassan to much.

3 - Depending on the pitch consider dropping Hassan for Nawaz.
 
They wont make any changes, if they did, Haider Ali in for Fakhar but they wont risk that
 
People saying Fakhar should open . Fakhar will fail on these wickets. He needs wickets that come onto the ball and he is not going to get it in the semis .


The perfect pakistan team would be

Replace Imad with Muhammad Nawaz

Replace Fakhar with Haider ali
 
Pakistan will not make any changes after winning 5 games. Our opening partnership needs to be better. Rizwan will need to step up big time
 
4 day left untill Pakistan players return ticket confirm

The phainta was fantastic! Winning and losing is part of game. You will see a lion hearted effort and In shaa Allah we will play final. The ego is what hit u guys hard! Becareful next time. For now chill out and enjoy the big boys play out the remainder of the world cup.. Starting Wednesday
 
Hassan and Hafeez the weak links. You cant let Hassan bowl 4 overs of medium pace vs AUS, they will murder his poor bowling. Hafeez will need to chip in with 2 overs.

No hope from Hafeez with the bat.
 
I don't like to make changes, especially to a winning team.
However, I would seriously consider opening with Babar and Fakhar so that we can get the best out of Fakhar.

He's more suited to opening snd batting during the power play.
Although Rizwan has been awesome upto now I think we could get something out of Fakhar moving into open. It will also give us the right/left opening combination.
 
Most concerning thing going into the match is the consistent no-balls. It is absolutely unacceptable and not cannot keep happening.

Not sure why people are suggesting Fakhar opening to get more out of him, he has opened plenty in UAE and is terrible at it. He simply struggles to time the ball and dots build up with fielders around him. If anything, I'd consider swapping Hafeez & Fakhar so he is coming later into the game and thinking more about slogging than trying to play a longer innings.
 
no changes now, its too late to tinker. only thing is tell fakhar to be aggressive from the get go, hes eating balls and not contributing, better he make 7 off 4 and get out than 10 off 13 or 14.

hazlewood will cause fakhar problems, back of a length outside off. he needs to move around the crease and try to improvise.

also pak need to be sensitive to hassans form, dont bowl his 4 for the sake of it if hes getting a phainta, aus have a few left handers, try to get at least two overs from hafeez where possible.
 
Cant believe there are still people who think fakhar should open even after the rizwan babar combo has been soo successful.

Anyways, if we do lose the semis i know fans would blame it on this factor.

Even if fakhar is tried as opener and fails, these same fans will be saying that it was just one match, he has played one down all his life and cant adjust bla bla bla.

The team combination needs to stay the same. Which ever team plays good cricket wins the trophy simple.
 
Cant believe there are still people who think fakhar should open even after the rizwan babar combo has been soo successful.

Anyways, if we do lose the semis i know fans would blame it on this factor.

Even if fakhar is tried as opener and fails, these same fans will be saying that it was just one match, he has played one down all his life and cant adjust bla bla bla.

The team combination needs to stay the same. Which ever team plays good cricket wins the trophy simple.

I think Rizwan and Babar should open, I'm just thinking of ways to get the best out of Fakhar as he's a real match winner with the bat... I would be more then happy if they stuck with the same line up
 
Hope we beat Aussies and then meet the Kiwis again in the final I think we need to provide more adequate security arrangements to them

And a real beating for their disrespect.
 
This is going to be a tough one against a team that is improving with each match.

They'll target Pakistan with pace and Zampa with their impressive bowling line-up.
 
Although I want Pakistan to drill Australia hard from all the corners , I am afraid, I think my hope won't be fulfilled. Aussies are bowling so good it will take a huge effort to score 160 against them.

Pakistan has two weak links in their bowling. Shadab and Hasan. If Australia can expose these two, Pakistan is in danger
 
You never know which Pakistan team will turn up at the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 - the good one or the great one.

Babar Azam’s side are consigning to ridicule one of the international game’s most hackneyed cliches - they are no longer unpredictable, but playing great cricket, game in, game out.

Top spot in Group 2 is just reward for a perfect record of five wins from five in the Super 12 stage, wrapped up thanks to a 72-run victory over Scotland.

This makes them favourites on paper to lift the trophy in Dubai next Sunday as the only unbeaten team in the tournament.

Standing in their way in the semi-finals will be Australia - who they have beaten in 12 of their 23 T20I meetings - and their plans to spring a surprise and reach their second-ever final.

There will be intriguing match-ups all over the field on Thursday.

Shaheen Shah Afridi and Imad Wasim give Pakistan the left-arm angle to challenge Aaron Finch in the powerplay, while the return to form of David Warner may be more of a concern.

The key to the game lies in whether Australia can separate Babar and Mohammad Rizwan, the most prolific partnership in the competition, early on.

If either Josh Hazlewood or Mitchell Starc can snaffle an opener in the first six overs, Justin Langer’s men can expose the poor form of Pakistan number three Fakhar Zaman.

Fakhar opened the batting with some success from 2017 to 2020, striking at 140 in that period. In nine matches at number three, his strike rate is a good deal lower at 120.

In Oman and the UAE, his return from five innings is 54 runs and he looked woefully out of nick against Scotland, groping at a Chris Greaves delivery and picking out cow corner, departing for eight.

Fakhar, who burst onto the scene as an opener at the 2017 ICC Champions Trophy, desperately needs time in the middle. The ICC Men’s T20 World Cup semi-finals is not the place to get it.

Mohammad Hafeez’s brand of pure hitting and know-how helped stitch the innings together against Scotland, lifting it to 189 for four, and prevented any loss of momentum when the top order fell.

Then in Shoaib Malik and Asif Ali they have two of the game’s most devastating finishers, helping them access totals in excess of 180 which, logic suggests, will be beyond Australia in a chase.

At 39 years old, Malik is one of the marvels of world cricket. He made his Pakistan debut in 1999, the year that the first of the ‘new’ Star Wars movies was released, Bill Gates predicted a future with smart phones and before two of his teammates at this tournament – Haider Ali and Mohammad Wasim – were even born.

The veteran batter flayed Scotland for 54 from 18 balls, Pakistan’s fastest-ever T20I fifty and the eighth quickest of all time.

Central to his six-hitting ability - he crossed the rope six times in Dubai - is using the depth of his crease to maximise his options straight down the ground and neutralise the yorker length.

He hit Greaves for three back-foot maximums in the final over and sent Safyaan Sharif soaring through the wide long-on and midwicket channels a few balls earlier.

His prowess against leg-spin could pose problems for Australia given how important Adam Zampa is to their wicket-taking intentions in the middle overs.

Pakistan’s bowling attack is also in fine fettle. It’s hard to imagine Shaheen Shah Afridi’s form not in some way deciding the outcome of knockout cricket in the next week.

Hasan Ali’s form is a cause for concern. He did get rid of the labouring Kyle Coetzer in the last over of the powerplay with a wicked, cutting slower ball to clean bowl the opener.

But he was given the treatment by Richie Berrington, who ended with an excellent unbeaten 54, and was by some distance the most expensive Pakistani bowler.

Consistency in selection has been the order of the day for head coach Misbah-ul-Haq, who was part of the team who lifted the trophy in England in 2009.

Pakistan have used the same 11 players in all five games and with no other frontline bowler sitting on the sidelines, Hasan’s struggles could cause ongoing headaches.

Still, if you want to win the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021, the likelihood is you’ll have to beat Pakistan. This time, you know what you’re going to get.
 
Smith going to be the key wicket. Maxwell can also be dangerous against our spinners.
Also Babar vs Hazlewood will be interesting and one of the key match ups of the semi final.
 
Plus the vulnerability of Malik in pressure situation againat quality bowling attack. I have seen him fail most of the time in such situations. I don't count his innings today.
 
Australia would have lost in 2015, had Rahat taken that catch.

Afridi commited a mistake giving last over to spinner v Hussey.

In 1999, pitch was under cooked and Wasim took a wrong decision to bat first.

1987, giving last over to Saleem jaffer was mistake, but Dickie Bird’s stupid decision to give Imran out costed us the semi final.

If i look back at history, only in 1999 Aussies really dominated us. Other 3 matches, rub of green and luck did not go our way.

Pakistan beat Aussies in 12,14 in Asian pitches.
Pakistan will raise their game and will finally win against Aussies in a knockout game in ICC tournament.
 
I don’t think Pakistan will change players at this stage having won 5/5. Of course fakhar hasn’t got going but I still think our best chance is leaving Babar and Rizwan to open. It’s been working.. why change it now? We need that same energy we had in the first two games. Throw a bit of luck in there and we’ll have the Aussies on the back foot. InshaAllah we’ve got this. Shaheen needs to step up and get us off to a good start and Hassan needs to be more disciplined. We need 3-4 players to have a great game. We’ve got this InshaAllah
 
This will be like a home match and there will be massive Pakistani support at the game which will give the boys a boost and confidence.
 
Pakistan 60% chance to win.

So although slight favourites it’s a knockout game and Aus have the wool over us when it comes to matches at the critical stage.

However Pak know the conditions fairly well so that will be in their favour. It will be a nail biter that’s for sure.
 
Spring a big surprise on aussies and play Nawaz over Hasan ali.
1. By now pitches have been used a lot and likely to take more turn than earlier games.
2. Spin is obviously more of a weakness for aussies vs pace on the ball.
3. Nawaz may not have played in world cup here but played loads of psl and prior intl games in dubai to know the conditions.
4. He can also be handly middle order player was in hot form in national t20 and good for zampa spinning ball into leftie, send him as floater to keep left right combo going in innings and strike a few sixes to up the ante
5. Australia will not be expecting him or have prepared for his bowling or batting
6. They may his bowls turn more and get out to imad on other end with it not turning or vice versa.
7. He can bowl in power play too if needed. But with Warner up top I expect an over or two from Hafeez anyway. So between Shaheen. Imad, hafeez and Nawaz powerplay is covered. Last 4 5 overs will need to be Haris and Shaheen with spinners combining to do the damage persistently from both ends upto 15 over mark.
8. Though with different quality of spinners it's not something we haven't done before if I recall right it was some past t20 or odi world cups where we hid back Ajmal till playoffs and he started bamboozaling teams in those. Till then I think we were playing Abdul Rehman.
8. Final decision could be taken on day of match looking at pitch if any hint of spin, go ahead.
9. Hasan Ali has also been bowling lots of no balls which can be crucial in a semi final and highly unlikely to happen with spinner.
10. Doesn't mean we have to play him in final if we win semi, unless he has a huge role like 4 wickets etc. Otherwise I would consider bringing Hasan back for final when he would be more charged up to perform after being dropping and would then throw off Eng/NZ again.
 
I would make the following changes:

1 - Make Fakhar open, and drop Babar to #3. He can slog in the powerplay overs.

2 - Bowl Hafeez at least 2 overs so we dont need to rely on Hassan to much.

3 - Depending on the pitch consider dropping Hassan for Nawaz.

Irrespective of the wicket, dropping Hasan for Nawaz makes lot of sense. Aussies play bowlers like Hasan in their grade cricket, they will target him to get 40 plus runs from his 4 overs.
 
Irrespective of the wicket, dropping Hasan for Nawaz makes lot of sense. Aussies play bowlers like Hasan in their grade cricket, they will target him to get 40 plus runs from his 4 overs.

Pakistan management should have played Nawaz in this game to give him match practice. I really doubt they will make this out of the box move.
 
Pakistan management should have played Nawaz in this game to give him match practice. I really doubt they will make this out of the box move.

See my post about unchanged 11. Hassan Ali is obvious weak link who Aussies will target, we should have planned ahead and played Nawaz today so he can get ready for the semi final. Hassan Ali has leaked runs in every game and him and Fakhar are the only players not to have put in a good performance. Ok playing Haider instead of Fakhar some will disagree but surely Nawaz for Hassan makes sense especially since Aussies struggle against spin more than pace.
 
Would rather have faced England in the semi final. Pakistan have a mental issue against Australia in knock out stage of world ICC events. 1987 and 1999 world Cup are painful memories as is 2010 T20 SF.

Plus 2015 WC QF
 
Considering that hasan ali was targeted by joke batsmen of Scotland, certainly we can’t play him in semis
 
I am not a Hassan Ali fan but I prefer him bowling to Maxwell, Marsh, Stoinis rather than Nawaz.
 
Pakistan won't drop Hassan Ali.

I got a feeling Hassan will play a crucial role in the semis. Hopefully, winning the motm.

The only thing that worries me is Smith. That dude is a nightmare and hopefully Pakistan will have a solid plan against him :shadab
 
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Let's analyse our opponents for semi final, I'm sure our stat team would be on it as well.

1. David Warner (massive threat) - He is the inform player now and when on song can be a very very dangerous player. He should be targetted by Shaheen as Shaheen is good against lefties if the ball is nipping a little. I hope Shaheen finds his swing come Thursday. If Shaheen doesn't get him then it can be a long day in the field for Pakistan as Warner would go ablaze.

2. Finch (normal threat) - Although he is a very very good player he is vulnerable against Imad or perhaps Shaheen early on. I'm not fancing Finch to get many against us.

3. Mitchell Marsh (normal threat) - Same like Finch not fussed.

4. Steve Smith (Massive threat) - He is big match player and if anyone can win game with bat for Australia its Smith and he is absolutely lethal against Pakistan. I really don't know the strategy against Smith but given its T20 our best bet is to keep his strike rate low.

5. Maxwell (big threat) - Please bring Haris Rauf against him early on (dont feed him spinners)

6. Matthew Wade (not a threat) - I wonder why he plays for Australia over Carey.

7. Marcus Stoinis (normal threat) - Dont bring Hasan Ali against him.

8. Zampa (not a threat) - Malik can be lethal against him also the top order should be able to dominate Zampa. I dont see him running web around us although he had a good tournament so far.

9. Hazlewood (massive threat) - I fear this guy can get both our openers in powerplay and leave us for dead. Its absolute critical that we give this guy respect and others around him.

10. Cummins (threat) - If Hazlewood gets our openers early then this guy can tighten the screw against our middle order. Babar should try to dominate him if he bowls in powerplay.

11. Starc (threat) - Its important to know Starc is not having a great tournament both Babar and Rizwan should try to capitalise on any bad balls by Starc.
 
Hasan hasn't been the same since his injuries and Nawaz is an option but will they throw him in such a big game without any playing time?

If they they don't then I'm backing Hasan to come good who's a big match player and his combative nature could be crucial.
 
I would love to be wrong but Hasan Ali Is out of rhythm , he didn’t find rythm in matches against minnows. He will be a liability if his rhythm is not there for semis. Surely you can’t select a bowler out of rhythm in ALL the games in the hopes he performs in knockouts
 
Pak should hammer them unless they bottle it. Winning toss shouldn’t matter against pathetic Aussies in UAE conditions!
 
Pak should hammer them unless they bottle it. Winning toss shouldn’t matter against pathetic Aussies in UAE conditions!

UAE with only one specialist spinner ! Hope Imad can do some damage but if Shadab has off day I think we’re screwed
 
This is going to be a tough one against a team that is improving with each match.

They'll target Pakistan with pace and Zampa with their impressive bowling line-up.

No doubt, Ideally a day match would have provided Pakistan an advantage as it is bit rough and the ball doesn't skid through. In the night game even if Pakistan bats second, chasing anything over 130 will be a challenge
 
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UAE with only one specialist spinner ! Hope Imad can do some damage but if Shadab has off day I think we’re screwed
If u would of given me Aussies, SA or windies. I would or said Aussies first, then Windies and SA as my last choice. SA always choke but I consider them a bigger threat than anyone else in that group (apart from Eng). Only way Pak wil lose if they bottle it.
 
I would love to be wrong but Hasan Ali Is out of rhythm , he didn’t find rythm in matches against minnows. He will be a liability if his rhythm is not there for semis. Surely you can’t select a bowler out of rhythm in ALL the games in the hopes he performs in knockouts

But we can't select an untried bowler either. Nawaz and Mohammad Wasim have hardly any international experience, let alone experience in this tournament.

We're stuck with Hasan Ali and we simply have to pray he doesn't get taken to the cleaners. He needs to do a lot of work in a few days to get this right.
 
Drop Hassan Ali. He’s going to cost us the game with his bowling. His batting won’t be needed because we already bat deep.

Bring Fakhar up the order and drop Rizwan down to 3.

Bring in Mohammad Wasim.

No chance they will drop Hassan
 
Hassan and Hafeez the weak links. You cant let Hassan bowl 4 overs of medium pace vs AUS, they will murder his poor bowling. Hafeez will need to chip in with 2 overs.

No hope from Hafeez with the bat.

Hassan will rock Aussies in this game , He is a big game player , you will see how he shuts all the critics.
 
Pakistan should not make any changes to the line up.Pakistan need to be more disciplined
 
will be a tough match up

if the openers fall, zaman hasn't done much through the tournament and Malik always fails against Australia

it's a win or an embarrassing loss like being bowled out for 80 chasing 140

hasan has been poor, he can pick up a wicket but if you have 20 from 6 he will lose the game the for you there too
 
I'm on the fence whether Fakhar should play or not. This is Fakhar's record in UAE T20Is:-

Inns Runs HS Avg SR 100s 50s 0s 4s 6s
10 131 30 13.10 97.03 0 0 0 10 3

It's also pretty clear from observing Fakhar that he's struggling with the slowness of the wickets, and this will be compounded with both the semis and the finals being in Dubai.

On the flip side, Fakhar is no doubt a big game player, and I'm also not convinced that Haider Ali would do any better. Either way, we need the top 3 to carry the innings, Hafeez and Malik are most likely going to bottle it, and Asif can't rescue us every time.
 
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The team management have already decided this is their best 11 and so they will stick with it now to the end barring any unexpected injury. We just have to pray that Hasan Ali finally shows up or atleast isnt terrible and Fakhar makes a few. Atleast they have performed in big games in the past. Hafeez and Malik have spent their whole career underperforming in World Cups. Maybe just maybe they can finally do something of note in a big game. It's a long shot but a guy can dream.....
 
I am very nervous

If rizwan bats the way he has been (strike rate 80 until the 10th over) we will loose.


Hasan is also going to be annihilated

I hope I’m proven wrong…..
 
Doesn't make sense to make any changes now. Only Fakhar's spot is questionable but I'll surely stick with him. He has been a big match player for Pakistan.

Aussie game will be tough. Pakisan have historically not done well against Aussies in World Cup games, esp KOs, so they need to get over their mental block like they did against India.
 
For me there is one change that should happen drop imad and bring nawaz
 
Its too late to make any changes.
Bring Fakhar at number 4 or 5 with licence to murder the bowling line up. Keep his mind clear and tell him to play his natural game.
Hafeez can come at 3 and Malik at 4.
 
We're not going to be able to score 130 runs in the last 10 overs against Australia, we need to show intent and be positive from ball 1 if we are to win this game. I really hope we bowl first though.
 
pakistan to ball first and the game is in the bag. If Pakistan bats first , they will only score 150 to 160 which wont be enough due to DEW factor. TOSS is the key
 
FK is a must , he hasn't performed but if the law of the avgs is true, he will be the only one firing this Semi.

he will be key to handle Zampa.
 
Pakistan batsmen will not be able to handle the pace - that's my worry!
 
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