I doubt it was intentional, CSA will be fuming at the lost income.
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I doubt it was intentional, CSA will be fuming at the lost income.
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The crucial point we're overlooking is that the pitch was excessively grassy, which favoring bowlers with extra movement. It wasn't a poor pitch, instead Indian bowlers utilized the conditions well.
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Of course they never thought that it was going to be this bad, but this only happened because they tried to prepare a pitch where they wanted to surprise India and finish a match within 3 or 4 days.
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Not sure if they really care because the first test match also finished within 3 days.
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That was way back in 2015. When South Africa last played in India in 2019, the wickets were some of the best I've ever seen in the subcontinent.
WHat? The bounce was both steep AND inconsistent. Rearing up to head from full length. SOme kept unusually low like the one to Gill. Nobody is going to play that ball.
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"It Is Dangerous...": Fuming Rohit Sharma Wants Indian Pitch Critics 'To Keep Mouths Shut' After 2-Day India vs South Africa Test
A two-day Test is bound to generate a lot of question marks. The same is happening with the India vs South Africa second Test that ended in less than five sessions on Thursday. As many as 23 wickets tumbled on day one with the hosts being bowled out for 55 and the visitors for 153 before India lost three more wickets in their second innings. In the second session of the second day, India completed the task in 12 overs. Only 107 overs were bowled - making it the shortest Test match ever.
While not directly criticising the pitch, Indian cricket team captain Rohit Sharma had a lot to say on the people criticising the Indian pitches, who complain about the spin tracks.
“We all saw what happened in this Test match and how the pitch played. I honestly don't mind playing on pitches like these. As long as everyone keeps their mouth shut and don't talk too much about Indian pitches,” Rohit Sharma said.
"Because you come here to challenge yourself. Yes, it is dangerous. It is challenging. So, and when people come to India, it is again pretty challenging as well. Look, when you are here to play Test cricket, we talk about Test cricket, the ultimate prize, Test cricket being the pinnacle and stuff like that. I think it's important that we also stand by it."
Rohit also spoke against people who often condemn Indian picthes as dust bowls.
"When you are put up against, a challenge like that, you come and face it. That's what happens in India, but, in India on day one, if the pitch starts turning, people start talking about 'Puff of dust! Puff of dust!' There's so much crack here on the pitch. People are not looking at that," Rohit said.
"I think it's important that we stay neutral everywhere we go. Especially the match referees. You know, some of these match referees need to keep their eye on how they rate pitches. It's quite important. I still can't believe that the World Cup final pitch was rated below average. A batsman got a hundred there in the final. How can that be a poor pitch? So these are the things the ICC, the match referees, they need to look into and start rating pitches based on what they see, not based on the countries. I think that's quite important.
"So I hope they keep their ears open, they keep their eyes open and look into those aspects of the game. Honestly, I'm all for pitches like this. We want to challenge playing on pitches like this. We pride ourselves playing on pitches like this. Uh, but all I wanna say is be neutral."
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A two-day Test is bound to generate a lot of question marks. The same is happening with the India vs South Africa second Test that ended in less than five sessions on Thursday. As many as 23 wickets tumbled on day one with the hosts being bowled out for 55 and the visitors for 153 before India lost three more wickets in their second innings. In the second session of the second day, India completed the task in 12 overs. Only 107 overs were bowled - making it the shortest Test match ever.
While not directly criticising the pitch, Indian cricket team captain Rohit Sharma had a lot to say on the people criticising the Indian pitches, who complain about the spin tracks.
“We all saw what happened in this Test match and how the pitch played. I honestly don't mind playing on pitches like these. As long as everyone keeps their mouth shut and don't talk too much about Indian pitches,” Rohit Sharma said.
"Because you come here to challenge yourself. Yes, it is dangerous. It is challenging. So, and when people come to India, it is again pretty challenging as well. Look, when you are here to play Test cricket, we talk about Test cricket, the ultimate prize, Test cricket being the pinnacle and stuff like that. I think it's important that we also stand by it."
Rohit also spoke against people who often condemn Indian picthes as dust bowls.
"When you are put up against, a challenge like that, you come and face it. That's what happens in India, but, in India on day one, if the pitch starts turning, people start talking about 'Puff of dust! Puff of dust!' There's so much crack here on the pitch. People are not looking at that," Rohit said.
"I think it's important that we stay neutral everywhere we go. Especially the match referees. You know, some of these match referees need to keep their eye on how they rate pitches. It's quite important. I still can't believe that the World Cup final pitch was rated below average. A batsman got a hundred there in the final. How can that be a poor pitch? So these are the things the ICC, the match referees, they need to look into and start rating pitches based on what they see, not based on the countries. I think that's quite important.
"So I hope they keep their ears open, they keep their eyes open and look into those aspects of the game. Honestly, I'm all for pitches like this. We want to challenge playing on pitches like this. We pride ourselves playing on pitches like this. Uh, but all I wanna say is be neutral."
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Pitch surprised SA more than India. India was prepared for a pitch like this. SA was not. So many slip catches
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Absolutely terrible pitch.
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Even in 2015, 2/4 pitches were fair. Rahane in fact scored 2 100s in the Delhi test and India won by 350 runs in the final 30 minutes of day 5. In 2019, all 3 tests had fantastic pitches, extremely pace friendly (Umesh, Shami, Nortje all did well), lots of runs, as can be seen from the charts.
In SA, I can't remember when India last got a semi-decent pitch. 3.5 days for these 2 tests. Last tour all tests ended in under 3 days. In 2017-18 all tests ended in 2-3 days and Wanderer's test was almost called off.
The difference is that India has won/drawn series when the pitches have been totally against us in the recent past ... whereas the last time any of the SENA teams won a series in India was 2012-2013 and the last time SA won a single friggin test in India was almost 14 years ago at Nagpur on a pitch that favored SA more than India !!
IIRC the Jo'Burg pitch back in 2018/19 was far more dangerous even though oddly it lasted for 4 days.
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3 days match, went to 4th day because of rain on first 3 days.
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"It (The pitch) generally plays a little bit slower and as a batter you can adjust to that. This one just seemed to get quicker as the session went on," Elgar told Star Sports in his post-match interview.
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Rohit wants match referees to 'keep eyes and ears open' while rating pitches
India captain Rohit Sharma 'doesn't mind' playing on pitches like the one in Cape Town, where the fastest ever Test result was achieved, but there's a caveat. He wants the critics of Indian pitches to just 'shut up' after what transpired at Newlands.
"We all saw what happened in this Test match and how the pitch played. I honestly don't mind playing on pitches like these as long as everyone keeps their mouth shut in India and don't talk about Indian pitches," said Rohit after India's seven-wicket win at Newlands, where all it took the visitors were 107 overs and a little over four sessions to level the series.
"You come here to challenge yourself. Yes, it is dangerous but it is challenging. When people come to India, it is challenging as well. When you're here to play Test cricket, we talk about Test cricket being the ultimate prize, Test cricket being the pinnacle and all. We also stand by it. When you're put up against a challenge like that, you come and face it. That's what happens in India, but when the pitch starts turning on Day 1 in India, people start talking 'puff of dust, puff of dust, there are so many cracks on the pitch'. It's important that we stay neutral wherever we go."
Rohit spoke of how different and uncomfortable the narrative is when the pitch starts taking turn from Day 1 in India, and called upon the ICC to stay 'neutral' when it comes to rating pitches.
"Honestly, I would like to see how the pitches are rated. Mumbai, Bangalore, Cape Town, Centurion are all quite different. The overhead conditions are different. The pitches deteriorate fast when the sun is beating down that hard on the pitch. The conditions in India also - we know the pitch will spin. But people don't like it because the pitch spins from Day 1," Rohit pointed out.
"If the ball seams from ball 1, it's fine for everyone. That's not fair. If the ball starts spinning from ball 1, it should be okay. Otherwise, you stay neutral and start rating these pitches also as bad. If you want the ball only to seam and not to turn, in my opinion that's absolutely wrong. That's my judgement, my opinion and I'll stick by it. I've seen enough cricket and enough of how these match referees and ICC looks into these ratings. I don't have an issue on how you rate, but stay neutral."
Rohit expressed surprise at the World Cup final pitch in Ahmedabad being rated 'below average' and urged the match referees to keep their 'eyes and ears open' when making their assessment.
"Some of these match referees need to keep their eye on how they rate pitches. I still can't believe the World Cup final pitch was rated 'below average'. A batsman got a hundred there. How can that be a poor pitch? The ICC, the match referees need to start rating pitches based on what they see, not based on countries. That's very important. I hope they keep their ears open, they keep their eyes open and look into those aspects of the game.
"I'm all for pitches like these, we want to challenge ourselves playing on pitches like these, we pride ourselves playing on pitches like these. But all I want to say is, be neutral."
India captain Rohit Sharma 'doesn't mind' playing on pitches like the one in Cape Town, where the fastest ever Test result was achieved, but there's a caveat. He wants the critics of Indian pitches to just 'shut up' after what transpired at Newlands.
"We all saw what happened in this Test match and how the pitch played. I honestly don't mind playing on pitches like these as long as everyone keeps their mouth shut in India and don't talk about Indian pitches," said Rohit after India's seven-wicket win at Newlands, where all it took the visitors were 107 overs and a little over four sessions to level the series.
"You come here to challenge yourself. Yes, it is dangerous but it is challenging. When people come to India, it is challenging as well. When you're here to play Test cricket, we talk about Test cricket being the ultimate prize, Test cricket being the pinnacle and all. We also stand by it. When you're put up against a challenge like that, you come and face it. That's what happens in India, but when the pitch starts turning on Day 1 in India, people start talking 'puff of dust, puff of dust, there are so many cracks on the pitch'. It's important that we stay neutral wherever we go."
Rohit spoke of how different and uncomfortable the narrative is when the pitch starts taking turn from Day 1 in India, and called upon the ICC to stay 'neutral' when it comes to rating pitches.
"Honestly, I would like to see how the pitches are rated. Mumbai, Bangalore, Cape Town, Centurion are all quite different. The overhead conditions are different. The pitches deteriorate fast when the sun is beating down that hard on the pitch. The conditions in India also - we know the pitch will spin. But people don't like it because the pitch spins from Day 1," Rohit pointed out.
"If the ball seams from ball 1, it's fine for everyone. That's not fair. If the ball starts spinning from ball 1, it should be okay. Otherwise, you stay neutral and start rating these pitches also as bad. If you want the ball only to seam and not to turn, in my opinion that's absolutely wrong. That's my judgement, my opinion and I'll stick by it. I've seen enough cricket and enough of how these match referees and ICC looks into these ratings. I don't have an issue on how you rate, but stay neutral."
Rohit expressed surprise at the World Cup final pitch in Ahmedabad being rated 'below average' and urged the match referees to keep their 'eyes and ears open' when making their assessment.
"Some of these match referees need to keep their eye on how they rate pitches. I still can't believe the World Cup final pitch was rated 'below average'. A batsman got a hundred there. How can that be a poor pitch? The ICC, the match referees need to start rating pitches based on what they see, not based on countries. That's very important. I hope they keep their ears open, they keep their eyes open and look into those aspects of the game.
"I'm all for pitches like these, we want to challenge ourselves playing on pitches like these, we pride ourselves playing on pitches like these. But all I want to say is, be neutral."
Rohit still feeling bad that ICC rated the pitch for the final as average because he was fully involved in the pitch tampering in all world cup games. Otherwise there's no reason to be upset about it.
Also Rohit Bhai, you cannot compare WC with bilateral series.
You also make bad pitches in your home, that's fine but pitch rigging in ICC tournament is tantamount to cheating.
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Mark Nicholas rated the Newlands pitch as poor. Do you agree with him?
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Couldn't have summarized better. Especially the second paragraph. " Glues together" part. It was like paddy field. It caused dramatic and unpredictable behavior. In the hands of world class bowlers it became near u playable. They were lucky nobody got injured badly.
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"Why We So Scared...": South Africa Great Spices Up Cape Town Pitch Talk After Rohit Sharma's "We All Saw What Happened" Statement
India registered a series-levelling seven-wicket victory against South Africa in the shortest game ever played in Test history. The match could not last for even two days despite both the sides coming to bat twice on the surface of Newlands, Cape Town -- the venue for the game. With the pitch offering additional bounce to pacers, all the batters, barring Virat Kohli and Aiden Markram, failed to impress. South Africa were bundled out for 55 runs in the first session while India were bowled out for 153 in reply.
In their second innings, South Africa could post only 176, setting a 79-run target for the guests, which they achieved in 12 overs.
This made it the shortest Test match-ever (in terms of ball bowled) with a result. However, the pitch caught the attention of critics and questions were raised over the nature of the surface as the game ended in the second session of the second day.
South Africa great Dale Steyn also slammed the curators for preparing such a pitch.
"Why we so scared of cracks? Think Sydney, Perth. Cracks so wide you can park a car inside them, and yet they always get to days 4 and 5! Pointless a test being over so fast you don't even see a hint of a crack. Pitches deteriorate over the days, let it happen. Two day tests are not Test matches," wrote Steyn on X, formerly Twitter.
This came after Rohit Sharma's interesting analysis on the pitch.
"We all saw what happened in this Test match and how the pitch played. I honestly don't mind playing on pitches like these. As long as everyone keeps their mouth shut and don't talk too much about Indian pitches," Rohit Sharma said.
"Because you come here to challenge yourself. Yes, it is dangerous. It is challenging. So, and when people come to India, it is again pretty challenging as well. Look, when you are here to play Test cricket, we talk about Test cricket, the ultimate prize, Test cricket being the pinnacle and stuff like that. I think it's important that we also stand by it."
Bumrah (6/61 in 13.5 overs), the master practitioner of fast bowling, knocked the stuffing out of South Africa's middle-order in a menacing morning spell though Aiden Markram (106 off 103 balls) fought like a lone ranger on a burning deck to take South Africa to 176 in 36.5 overs at stroke of lunch on day two.
A paltry target even on the toughest of tracks wasn't exactly a tall order and young Yashasvi Jaiswal (28) threw his bat around before skipper Rohit Sharma (16 not out) completed the formalities in the company of Shreyas Iyer (4 not out off 6) in just 12 overs.
This was India's first victory at Newlands in seven attempts and one that would be remembered for the hostility exhibited by two Indian fast bowlers - Bumrah and Mohammed Siraj, who produced a career-best six-wicket haul to bowl out South Africa for 55 in the first innings.
The series-levelling win gave Rohit the bragging rights of being only the second skipper after Mahendra Singh Dhoni (2010-11) to draw a series in the 'Rainbow Nation'.
However, South Africa remains an unconquered territory for India, who have not been able to win a Test series in the country.
It was the shortest Test match ever in terms of overs bowled, bettering the previous best that involved Australia and South Africa at the MCG way back in 1932.
A total of 106.2 overs were bowled in this match while 109.2 overs were bowled in that 1932-match which Australia won. Eerily, South Africa's first innings had lasted for 23.2 overs, just like this game.
SOURCE: NDTVIndia registered a series-levelling seven-wicket victory against South Africa in the shortest game ever played in Test history. The match could not last for even two days despite both the sides coming to bat twice on the surface of Newlands, Cape Town -- the venue for the game. With the pitch offering additional bounce to pacers, all the batters, barring Virat Kohli and Aiden Markram, failed to impress. South Africa were bundled out for 55 runs in the first session while India were bowled out for 153 in reply.
In their second innings, South Africa could post only 176, setting a 79-run target for the guests, which they achieved in 12 overs.
This made it the shortest Test match-ever (in terms of ball bowled) with a result. However, the pitch caught the attention of critics and questions were raised over the nature of the surface as the game ended in the second session of the second day.
South Africa great Dale Steyn also slammed the curators for preparing such a pitch.
"Why we so scared of cracks? Think Sydney, Perth. Cracks so wide you can park a car inside them, and yet they always get to days 4 and 5! Pointless a test being over so fast you don't even see a hint of a crack. Pitches deteriorate over the days, let it happen. Two day tests are not Test matches," wrote Steyn on X, formerly Twitter.
This came after Rohit Sharma's interesting analysis on the pitch.
"We all saw what happened in this Test match and how the pitch played. I honestly don't mind playing on pitches like these. As long as everyone keeps their mouth shut and don't talk too much about Indian pitches," Rohit Sharma said.
"Because you come here to challenge yourself. Yes, it is dangerous. It is challenging. So, and when people come to India, it is again pretty challenging as well. Look, when you are here to play Test cricket, we talk about Test cricket, the ultimate prize, Test cricket being the pinnacle and stuff like that. I think it's important that we also stand by it."
Bumrah (6/61 in 13.5 overs), the master practitioner of fast bowling, knocked the stuffing out of South Africa's middle-order in a menacing morning spell though Aiden Markram (106 off 103 balls) fought like a lone ranger on a burning deck to take South Africa to 176 in 36.5 overs at stroke of lunch on day two.
A paltry target even on the toughest of tracks wasn't exactly a tall order and young Yashasvi Jaiswal (28) threw his bat around before skipper Rohit Sharma (16 not out) completed the formalities in the company of Shreyas Iyer (4 not out off 6) in just 12 overs.
This was India's first victory at Newlands in seven attempts and one that would be remembered for the hostility exhibited by two Indian fast bowlers - Bumrah and Mohammed Siraj, who produced a career-best six-wicket haul to bowl out South Africa for 55 in the first innings.
The series-levelling win gave Rohit the bragging rights of being only the second skipper after Mahendra Singh Dhoni (2010-11) to draw a series in the 'Rainbow Nation'.
However, South Africa remains an unconquered territory for India, who have not been able to win a Test series in the country.
It was the shortest Test match ever in terms of overs bowled, bettering the previous best that involved Australia and South Africa at the MCG way back in 1932.
A total of 106.2 overs were bowled in this match while 109.2 overs were bowled in that 1932-match which Australia won. Eerily, South Africa's first innings had lasted for 23.2 overs, just like this game.
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Former South Africa's Captain said on his YouTube channel:
"I am very upset about the fact we did not get a third Test. Once again you have to blame T20 cricket around the world, the ICC, the scheduling."
"I do not know whom to blame, all I know is something is not right. If you want to see more Test cricket then something is going to have to change. There will be enough cricket between India, Australia and England I can tell you that. But if you want to see all the teams in the world competing to see who is the best Test team in the world then something will have to change."
"Let's see what they come up with. They are under pressure, they know they are and we'll wait and see what happens with that one."
"I think Test cricket still has a bright future."
"I think there are still enough people around the world who want to watch it, want to play it and it is the ultimate form of the game. When I watch cricket on television I want to watch every ball of a series."
"I know the ICC have a bit of work and admin on their plates to fix this. Maybe the ODI format will change? I do feel ODIs are under more pressure than Test cricket. I just want the game to be healthy, to be strong and for youngsters to dream and want to be superstars one day."
"I am very upset about the fact we did not get a third Test. Once again you have to blame T20 cricket around the world, the ICC, the scheduling."
"I do not know whom to blame, all I know is something is not right. If you want to see more Test cricket then something is going to have to change. There will be enough cricket between India, Australia and England I can tell you that. But if you want to see all the teams in the world competing to see who is the best Test team in the world then something will have to change."
"Let's see what they come up with. They are under pressure, they know they are and we'll wait and see what happens with that one."
"I think Test cricket still has a bright future."
"I think there are still enough people around the world who want to watch it, want to play it and it is the ultimate form of the game. When I watch cricket on television I want to watch every ball of a series."
"I know the ICC have a bit of work and admin on their plates to fix this. Maybe the ODI format will change? I do feel ODIs are under more pressure than Test cricket. I just want the game to be healthy, to be strong and for youngsters to dream and want to be superstars one day."
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Some points from a Cricviz article. Ball tracking data is restricted in India so there's no data on Indian pitches and conditions to the same extent. But elsewhere ,
This is 3rd toughest batting pitch in all Tests since 2006.
Only ENG vs WI at North Sound, 2019 and IND v SA at Wanderers , 2018 were marginally tougher.
It had the 2nd highest amount of seam movement (.77 degrees) for a Test in South Africa after Wanderers 2018.
With respective ratings of 9.6 and 9.5 out of 10, it was the bounciest and fastest pitch in the history of ball tracking era
Bounce Inconsistency rating of 7.6 - 9th most inconsistent pitch in the ball tracking era.
These are staggering numbers.
Ridiculous pitch.
This is 3rd toughest batting pitch in all Tests since 2006.
Only ENG vs WI at North Sound, 2019 and IND v SA at Wanderers , 2018 were marginally tougher.
It had the 2nd highest amount of seam movement (.77 degrees) for a Test in South Africa after Wanderers 2018.
With respective ratings of 9.6 and 9.5 out of 10, it was the bounciest and fastest pitch in the history of ball tracking era
Bounce Inconsistency rating of 7.6 - 9th most inconsistent pitch in the ball tracking era.
These are staggering numbers.
Ridiculous pitch.
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Sunil Gavaskar lambasted Media in SENA countries on Newland Pitch coverage :
“These kind of excuses that the curator got it wrong is typical of the SENA countries,When our curators make a dry pitch then it’s ‘chicanery’, as a former Australian skipper said last year after the Aussies had been walloped in the first two Test matches. So our groundsmen do it deliberately, but their groundsmen just get it wrong. It’s like before the third country umpires came in, where decisions by their umpires were excused as ‘human error’ while our umpires were cheats and ‘Delhi Butchers’ and all such derogatory headlines.”
“In about three weeks time another Test series starts with a country that has the biggest whingeing and moaning media in sport. Anything that doesn’t suit their team will be criticised and allegations will fly thick and fast,”
“These kind of excuses that the curator got it wrong is typical of the SENA countries,When our curators make a dry pitch then it’s ‘chicanery’, as a former Australian skipper said last year after the Aussies had been walloped in the first two Test matches. So our groundsmen do it deliberately, but their groundsmen just get it wrong. It’s like before the third country umpires came in, where decisions by their umpires were excused as ‘human error’ while our umpires were cheats and ‘Delhi Butchers’ and all such derogatory headlines.”
“In about three weeks time another Test series starts with a country that has the biggest whingeing and moaning media in sport. Anything that doesn’t suit their team will be criticised and allegations will fly thick and fast,”
Good from Gawaskar .these Sena Country media ,ex cricketers were crying so much about Indian pitches always .
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NEWLANDS PITCH RATED AS 'UNSATISFACTORY'
The International Cricket Council (ICC) today announced that the pitch for the second Test of the ICC World Test Championship series between South Africa and India at Newlands in Cape Town has been rated as “unsatisfactory” under the ICC Pitch and Outfield Monitoring Process.
ICC Match Referee Chris Broad submitted his report expressing the concerns of the match officials and after consulting with captains Dean Elgar and Rohit Sharma, both of whom felt that the pitch was below standard. Following the assessment, the venue has received one demerit point.
The report has been forwarded to Cricket South Africa, who have 14 days to appeal against the sanction.
Mr Broad said: “The pitch in Newlands was very difficult to bat on. The ball bounced quickly and sometimes alarmingly throughout the match, making it difficult to play shots. Several batters were hit on the gloves and many wickets also fell due to the awkward bounce.”
The International Cricket Council (ICC) today announced that the pitch for the second Test of the ICC World Test Championship series between South Africa and India at Newlands in Cape Town has been rated as “unsatisfactory” under the ICC Pitch and Outfield Monitoring Process.
ICC Match Referee Chris Broad submitted his report expressing the concerns of the match officials and after consulting with captains Dean Elgar and Rohit Sharma, both of whom felt that the pitch was below standard. Following the assessment, the venue has received one demerit point.
The report has been forwarded to Cricket South Africa, who have 14 days to appeal against the sanction.
Mr Broad said: “The pitch in Newlands was very difficult to bat on. The ball bounced quickly and sometimes alarmingly throughout the match, making it difficult to play shots. Several batters were hit on the gloves and many wickets also fell due to the awkward bounce.”
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He didnt criticise the pitch at all. He said he's OK with such pitches and simply called out the double standards of the ICC.
This was a pathetic pitch and deserved the lowest rating possible . It was the 3rd worst pitch for batting after North Sound, 2019 and Wanderers , 2018.
It's about maintaining parity. If rank turners are going to be rated as poor, then these sorta pitches should be rated even worse since they can pose a physical threat as well
The ICC statement literally says that Rohit told the match referee that he didn't believe the pitch was up to standard, which is ironic after his claims that he was fine with the pitch whilst going off on his whine about people criticising certain Indian pitches
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It's not. He clearly said that issue was the double standards. The Ahmedabad pitch in 2021 was rated a poor pitch when it was nowhere near as bad as this pitch.
Why would Rohit complain about a pitch on which we thrashed SA?
It's about ensuring there are no double standards at play.
Unlike certain other teams, their supporters and ex cricketers who whine only after losing on said pitches. .
And the double standards exist whether you acknowledge them or not.
ENG vs SA in 2022 had one particular pitch that was seaming excessively and it did not even get a mention from the Match Referee , lol.
Rohit is the one complaining to the match referee about the pitch, you'd have to ask him.
Ahmedabad 2021 didn't receive a poor rating. It didn't even receive a below average rating. That was despite the game finishing in 2 days, the broadcaster showing clear proof of significant variable bounce on day 1, and the game having to be delayed regularly so the groundsmen could repair the dangerous ankle-breaker sized footholes from the very first session. You're right there's a clear double standard, but it isn't the way round you seem to think.
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I have seen pitches over a period. Cracked Perth Pitch. Dangerous WI pitches This onetakes the cake.
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What was the level of variable bounce on that pitch? What did the broadcaster show?
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The Western Province Cricket Association (WPCA) acknowledges the International Cricket Council's assessment of the pitch at Newlands Cricket Ground for the second Test between South Africa and India as 'unsatisfactory' under the ICC Pitch and Outfield Monitoring Process.
The WPCA is committed to upholding the highest standards of cricket and ensuring that the playing conditions at Newlands are of the highest possible quality. We respect the concerns raised by the ICC Match Referee, Mr. Chris Broad, and we take this feedback seriously.
As a responsible cricketing body, we will work closely with Cricket South Africa (CSA) to review the Match Referee's report thoroughly and identify all areas for improvement.
The Board of WPCA, with support from CSA, has committed itself to a comprehensive turnaround strategy to address the recent misfortunes at WPCA, which includes restoring Newlands Cricket Ground to its former glory.
We appreciate the feedback we have received from our various stakeholders. WPCA is committed to addressing the concerns they have raised, and we remain dedicated to providing an excellent cricketing experience for players and fans alike at Newlands.
CSA
The WPCA is committed to upholding the highest standards of cricket and ensuring that the playing conditions at Newlands are of the highest possible quality. We respect the concerns raised by the ICC Match Referee, Mr. Chris Broad, and we take this feedback seriously.
As a responsible cricketing body, we will work closely with Cricket South Africa (CSA) to review the Match Referee's report thoroughly and identify all areas for improvement.
The Board of WPCA, with support from CSA, has committed itself to a comprehensive turnaround strategy to address the recent misfortunes at WPCA, which includes restoring Newlands Cricket Ground to its former glory.
We appreciate the feedback we have received from our various stakeholders. WPCA is committed to addressing the concerns they have raised, and we remain dedicated to providing an excellent cricketing experience for players and fans alike at Newlands.
CSA
Since India is the beneficiary, nobody is going to complain about the pitch
It appears to me that ICC actually rated this pitch unsatisfactory irrespective of the winner of the game. Conspiracy theories failed?
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Yeah, since they have won this test match so they are okay with that sort of wicket. But what if they had lost this match? Then the story could have been totally opposite.
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Just unsatisfactory lol. When will the match ref Broad retire? He always covers up for SENA teams, and becomes ruthless, biased against the Asians.
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The pitch conditions during the Cape Town Test between India and South Africa came under scrutiny after the match was finished in merely five sessions. India had beaten the hosts by seven wickets in the Test, dismissing the Proteas for just 55 in the first innings. Even as Aiden Markram smashed a century in the second innings for South Africa, it was barely enough as India were handed a paltry 79-run target, which they chased with relative ease.
Indian captain Rohit Sharma -- as well as South Africa's batting coach Ashwell Prince -- severely criticised the pitch conditions in Cape Town. Rohit also stated that he is all for spicy tracks overseas, but only if people don't take a hypocritical approach when the pitch starts offering turn from the first hour on day one in the subcontinent.
Now, West Indies' legendary World Cup-winning captain Clive Lloyd has also spoken in detail about the pitch in Cape Town. While the Windies great didn't particularly criticise the surface conditions at Newlands, he sided with Rohit in the Indian captain's argument that there should be just decision-making in rating pitches throughout different parts of the globe.
"I don't think anything was wrong with the pitch. Somebody made a hundred on that same pitch, on a wearing pitch, so I think it's just application. And I'm wondering if that had happened in India, with what they would have done to the ground persons," Lloyd told PTI.
"You know, because if you lose in a day and a bit, the first thing they'll look at is the pitch. India had a turning pitch here the other day, and everybody said some terrible things about the pitch.
“If you're playing top-class cricket, you should be able to handle those sorts of things.”
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Indian captain Rohit Sharma -- as well as South Africa's batting coach Ashwell Prince -- severely criticised the pitch conditions in Cape Town. Rohit also stated that he is all for spicy tracks overseas, but only if people don't take a hypocritical approach when the pitch starts offering turn from the first hour on day one in the subcontinent.
Now, West Indies' legendary World Cup-winning captain Clive Lloyd has also spoken in detail about the pitch in Cape Town. While the Windies great didn't particularly criticise the surface conditions at Newlands, he sided with Rohit in the Indian captain's argument that there should be just decision-making in rating pitches throughout different parts of the globe.
"I don't think anything was wrong with the pitch. Somebody made a hundred on that same pitch, on a wearing pitch, so I think it's just application. And I'm wondering if that had happened in India, with what they would have done to the ground persons," Lloyd told PTI.
"You know, because if you lose in a day and a bit, the first thing they'll look at is the pitch. India had a turning pitch here the other day, and everybody said some terrible things about the pitch.
“If you're playing top-class cricket, you should be able to handle those sorts of things.”
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They showed Hawkeye footage on day 1 of balls pitching on pretty much identical lengths and varying significantly in bounce.
Unsatisfactory is the lowest possible rating a pitch can get unless the game has been abandoned because of danger to the players.
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After the conclusion of the 3rd India vs England Test, skipper Rohit Sharma, while addressing the media, said:
"We have given results for many years and we will get results in the future as well. But we don't have control over certain things - we don't discuss whether we want rank turners or not. We come here (at the venues) two days before the match and how much can we do anyway in two days?"
"The curators decide and make the pitch. We have the strength to play on any wicket and win on it. When we won the Test in South Africa (at Cape Town), everyone knows what kind of wicket it was."
"We have given results for many years and we will get results in the future as well. But we don't have control over certain things - we don't discuss whether we want rank turners or not. We come here (at the venues) two days before the match and how much can we do anyway in two days?"
"The curators decide and make the pitch. We have the strength to play on any wicket and win on it. When we won the Test in South Africa (at Cape Town), everyone knows what kind of wicket it was."
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