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what did nz and sa win?
dont really need to attach ANY importance to CT
CT usually is more competitive than the WC.
And? Winning the wc and i mean the 50 over wc is still the best. Winning ct is nice but what is the value? Its like a multi team tourney.
And? Winning the wc and i mean the 50 over wc is still the best. Winning ct is nice but what is the value? Its like a multi team tourney.
CT usually is more competitive than the WC.
Aus-SA ODI series is usually most competitive too.
Does Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket count?
IIRC India defeated Pak in the finals in 1985.
They will if world cups are renamed kitply or Pepsi cupPakistan will have the most trophies by 2050.![]()
Yeah that 1999 wcPak's ODI team of 90's deserved 1 more ICC tourney, underachieved to their potential.
Yeah that 1999 wc
Play 4 Pakistan Dont Play with Pakistan...
Why is the champions trophy counted in world tournament victories, but our victories against Indian in the CT aren't counted in the streak?
Interesting.
I have always said this India is the most cruch team from Asia followed by SL. These 2 teams always turn up in ICC events.
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Just saying the tournament should've won by Pak but they played the final poorlyNo way .. Australia was a far better team. Delusional stuff from some Pakistanis here.
Just saying the tournament should've won by Pak but they played the final poorly
Play 4 Pakistan Dont Play with Pakistan...
Top 4 Asian teams in this order:
India - 2 World cups, 1 WT20, 1 CT, 1 shared CT, 6 Asia cups, twice no.1 test ranking.
SriLanka - 1 World cup, 1 WT20, 1 shared CT, 5 Asia cup.
Pakistan - 1 World cup, 1 WT20, 2 Asia cups, once no.1 ranked test team.
Bangladesh - None
So based on accolades above,
1)India
Distance
2)Srilanka
Closely followed by
3)Pakistan
Huge distance
4)Bangladesh
P.s - We should hv won 2014 T20 WC...why Yuvi why
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Top 4 Asian teams in this order:
India - 2 World cups, 1 WT20, 1 CT, 1 shared CT, 6 Asia cups, twice no.1 test ranking.
SriLanka - 1 World cup, 1 WT20, 1 shared CT, 5 Asia cup.
Pakistan - 1 World cup, 1 WT20, 2 Asia cups, once no.1 ranked test team.
Bangladesh - None
So based on accolades above,
1)India
Distance
2)Srilanka
Closely followed by
3)Pakistan
Huge distance
4)Bangladesh
P.s - We should hv won 2014 T20 WC...why Yuvi why
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Yes but I didnt include that 2014 win. Without that only India is wayyyyy ahead than Pak based on number of trophies. You just need to see without those green sunglasses.Aise to Pakistan ko bhi 2010 WT20 winners tha, why hussey why ?
Yes but I didnt include that 2014 win. Without that only India is wayyyyy ahead than Pak based on number of trophies. You just need to see without those green sunglasses.
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Dosent matter who performed better or not. Head to head in terms of number of major trophies won, India >>>> SL > PakBut you mentioned that as a passing reference, without mentioning Pakistan chances which amounts to cheating with words. Pakistan performed much better than India in WCT20. India failed to get past group stages in 3 consecutive tourneys. You should have mentioned that.
Thanks for reminding us. It took England 35 years to get one. So we have 17 years to get one and we would be ahead of them.#Eng 1
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Dosent matter who performed better or not. Head to head in terms of number of major trophies won, India >>>> SL > Pak
In that order. Rest all subjective.
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But who is talking about WT20 only? Did you read my post and the OP. We are talking about all ICC trophies. And India is easily ahead (by huge margin) compared to Pakistan. I know its tough for you to digest but its a fact bro.Then you should not have mentioned "we should have won in 2014" reference. Be consistent. For all the hoopla, India has won only 1 WCT20 and Pakistan has also won 1.
But who is talking about WT20 only? Did you read my post and the OP. We are talking about all ICC trophies. And India is easily ahead (by huge margin) compared to Pakistan. I know its tough for you to digest but its a fact bro.
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Not sure about you tear apart or notLet us take each one by one, and I will tear apart the theories. First you have to retract "we should have won" comment because that makes someone believe India performed so much better than Pakistan in WT20.
Now coming back to CT, if you think CT is a global coveted tournament, what is your comment on h2h poor record against Pakistan. Pakistan leads 2-1 in h2h in CT. Got ya ?
Not sure about you tear apart or notand neither I care. But this thread was who won more ICC trophies. So based on that:
India - 2 WC's, 1 CT, 1 shared CT, 1 WT20.
SL - 1 WC, 1 shared CT, 1 WT20
Pak - 1 WC & 1 WT20
Now if you include Number of Asia cup titles too India is significantly higher than Pakistan. So its not a ricket science that who is the most successful cricket team in Asia.
As far as Pak's 2 win in ICC Champions trophy over India who denied that?? We all give credit to that but it was champions trophy. No one said India has streak over Pakistan on ICC events. India's streak over Pakistan is on WORLD CUPs and WORLD T20s.
Sighhh...
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Cant help if you think hypocracy. OP asked who won most number of ICC trophies and I just posted the numbers. Not sure what hypocracy did you see.The argument is inclusion of CT because India won it twice. I am sure you wouldn't include it had India failed.
The hypocrisy is evident. Why not include Australasia cups in Sharjah ?
Cant help if you think hypocracy. OP asked who won most number of ICC trophies and I just posted the numbers. Not sure what hypocracy did you see.
The reason I didnt include Australasia cup))) ) because that ain't an ICC trophy
You can open a thread na who won most amount of trophies in Sharjah and then we all might praise Pakistan? No honestly..pls do
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Not sure with which Indian you argued with and what that had to do with this thread. If anyone says CT is not a coveted tournament...ofcourse its a lie. But that is not this thread all about. Read the OP. Its not about what is India's record against Pakistan etc. Its about how many ICC trophies teams have won. Since CT is an ICC trophy and hence everyone included it. SimpleBhai .. everyone knows the numbers. The point we are discussing is inclusion of CT in the coveted tournament list.
I have been involved in 100s of arguments with Indian posters who claim ki Pakistan gets their pants in knots against India in "tournaments that matter". When I point out CT results, they say CT is not a coveted tournament.
Now when talking about winning it, suddenly the Indian posters keep it's count.
This is hypocrisy. Don't hide behind the word "ICC".
Not sure with which Indian you argued with and what that had to do with this thread. If anyone says CT is not a coveted tournament...ofcourse its a lie. But that is not this thread all about. Read the OP. Its not about what is India's record against Pakistan etc. Its about how many ICC trophies teams have won. Since CT is an ICC trophy and hence everyone included it. Simple
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Most successful team in Asia is given. What that got to do with Pak beaten us twice in Asia cup? They didnt go on to win the event. If you consider the number of trophies, its:Don't act innocent now.. you derived the conclusion of "successful team in Asia".. based on this. Don't say you just posted the numbers.
Fixed.No one literally no one should care about the WT20.
Pak's ODI team of 90's deserved 1 more ICC tourney, underachieved to their potential.
CT should not be counted, The Saffers are still called chokers despite winning a CT, same goes for NZ on a smaller scale.
The OP mentions "ICC tournaments" and not "world cups".
sri lanka were incredibly lucky to share that Champions Trophy with us . Sehwag was in top form and on his way to smash that small target .
CT should not be counted, The Saffers are still called chokers despite winning a CT, same goes for NZ on a smaller scale.
Pakistani logic: don't count Champions Trophy because we haven't won it. As long as we don't win one, it will remain a useless trophy, but the narrative will change if we manage to win it eventually.
Pakistan will have the most trophies by 2050.![]()
Not really, nobody actually cares about them. If they did, then why would SA players be crying every-time they get knocked out in the SF's?![]()
Pakistani logic: don't count Champions Trophy because we haven't won it. As long as we don't win one, it will remain a useless trophy, but the narrative will change if we manage to win it eventually.
OP should change the title to World cups because everyone is having issue digesting the words "ICC tournaments".
ICC tournaments would also include Under 19 world cups, Women's world cups among others so OP should add a few more qualifications if the aim is to narrow it down to men's CT, WT20 and ODI WC
Let us take each one by one, and I will tear apart the theories. First you have to retract "we should have won" comment because that makes someone believe India performed so much better than Pakistan in WT20.
Now coming back to CT, if you think CT is a global coveted tournament, what is your comment on h2h poor record against Pakistan. Pakistan leads 2-1 in h2h in CT. Got ya ?
It's not Pakistani logic. It's pretty much world logic apart from some petty people. No one gives a damn about that trophy and no self respecting nation points to it as an indicator of success when counting their achievements and you know it. Even South Africa has won it and you don't hear a peep from them