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ICC Under-19 World Cup | New Zealand | Jan 12 - Feb 4, 2018 | Discussion Thread

Shaw was more hyped one of the reason is his Ranji stats ....already 5 hundreds in First season . Debut hundred in Ranji trophy and Duleep trophy like Sachin... 100's against international bowlers like Ishant and Ashwin

btwn Gill is more dynamic limited overs player
 
Gill is probably the best batsman of this tournament. All 3 Indian right hander so far has a Dravid in their style - dead bat defense against spin is almost identical.
 
How much is a safe score on this wicket? India seems to have frittered away the early advantage. Bangladesh batting is pretty decent.
 
Wow... India Couldn't capitalize on great start and they are thinking about winning U19
 
Great fight back boys, but I guess wicket will turn lot in 2nd innings - already its' a bit uneven. 35 too many, probably.
 
It looks like a wicket that stops a bit. So stroke making may not be that easy. The sound of the bat hitting the ball was not really sweet for everyone.
 
badsha001 said:
Wow... India Couldn't capitalize on great start and they are thinking about winning U19
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The U19 World Cup has Pakistan written all over it. No other team is even remotely close to Pakistan in skills be it bowling, batting, or fielding. Afghanistan is the next contender.
 
Interesting chase coming up. India should have got 20-30 more runs.
 
The ages of the Indian and Bangladeshi players seems legit.

All of them look tiny and have as much muscle as you'd expect from school kids.
 
Aman said:
The ages of the Indian and Bangladeshi players seems legit.

All of them look tiny and have as much muscle as you'd expect from school kids.
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That Ishan guy looks like a father of 3.... :inti But I can see why you would say that amandeep.
 
Railu Katta said:
That Ishan guy looks like a father of 3.... :inti But I can see why you would say that amandeep.
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How dare you point fingers at them pious lot. They see no evil, hear no evil and they do no evil. Amandeep is right in this regard!!

:ma
 
I was reading 147KM, 149Km ...from Indian U19 pacers ... must be bowling slowly on this track.
 
Railu Katta said:
Those were on indian technology speed guns [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION]
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Today's wicket also slow - our misfortune to lose the toss. Bowling second spinners could have choked Indian batting more.
 
Aman said:
The ages of the Indian and Bangladeshi players seems legit.

All of them look tiny and have as much muscle as you'd expect from school kids.
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Having muscle doesn't mean a person is overage, Plenty of teenagers have muscles while many 20+ guys are scrawny. Doesn't really mean anything.
 
So it's india u19 and Pakistan u19 on 30th.India's batting is strong though. India is slightly favorite but should be a good match
 
Poutine said:
Having muscle doesn't mean a person is overage, Plenty of teenagers have muscles while many 20+ guys are scrawny. Doesn't really mean anything.
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That's just one thing, they don't really looks over the age of 19 from their build to facial features. They look like schoolkids.
 
Not trying to be rude but Indians and Bangladeshis are very short IMHO (not that I'am too tall myself but :P) our boys do look 6ft+ on average at the U-19 level and then we have blokes like Shaheen Shah. Just need a proper system to make our boys go through (like a system in NZ) and we should produce amazing athletes in future Inshallah
 
I do believe height is very important

5′ 10″ minimum for test cricket but ideal is over 6.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Not trying to be rude but Indians and Bangladeshis are very short IMHO (not that I'am too tall myself but :P) our boys do look 6ft+ on average at the U-19 level and then we have blokes like Shaheen Shah. Just need a proper system to make our boys go through (like a system in NZ) and we should produce amazing athletes in future Inshallah
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That's another thing, it doesn't look like most of them have stopped growing yet.
 
Looks like boys'll give a good fight, but I have to leave now .... Yesterday watched 82 till 3AM :(
 
Aman said:
That's another thing, it doesn't look like most of them have stopped growing yet.
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A very important thing nonetheless, a 6Ft+ height does correlate (historically) to cricketers & athletes being successful (barring a few cases of course)
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
A very important thing nonetheless, a 6Ft+ height does correlate (historically) to cricketers & athletes being successful (barring a few cases of course)
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Some of the greatest bowlers and batsmen ever have been under 6 foot (Sachin, Ponting, Lara, Kohli, Dhoni, Sanga, Bradman, Steyn, Waqar, Marshall etc.).
 
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Aman said:
Some of the greatest bowlers and batsmen ever have been under 6 foot (Sachin, Ponting, Lara, Kohli, Bradman, Steyn, Waqar, Marshall etc.).
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A Google search for Waqar is showing something else ref below:

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Marshall and Styen are both around 5'10/5'11 so 1/2 inches leeway is accepatble, the kids coming off the today from the countries in question seem somewhere around 5'6ish to 5'8ish which is just very short for a pro athelete (especially if you're a bowler) - Pace isn't eveything! Bilawal Bhatti clocks 145 eyes closed yet gets carted around for fun even in domestics.

My response was more in line towards the bowlers.
 
Aman said:
Some of the greatest bowlers and batsmen ever have been under 6 foot (Sachin, Ponting, Lara, Kohli, Dhoni, Sanga, Bradman, Steyn, Waqar, Marshall etc.).
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Waqar is 6 foot and Steyn is 5' 11"

You don't see too many bowlers being sucessful around height of 5' 7" , you need exceptional talent to do well in test cricket otherwise. Steyn and Marshall are rare examples.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
A Google search for Waqar is showing something else ref below:

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Marshall and Styen are both around 5'10/5'11 so 1/2 inches leeway is accepatble, the kids coming off the today from the countries in question seem somewhere around 5'6ish to 5'8ish which is just very short for a pro athelete (especially if you're a bowler) - Pace isn't eveything! Bilawal Bhatti clocks 145 eyes closed yet gets carted around for fun even in domestics.

My response was more in line towards the bowlers.
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Fair enough, 5'7 and below is too small for a fast bowler tbh.
 
Hasan Ali is just 5'7 ft and yet successful so far...so all this envious analysis of nagarkotti being short hence will be unsuccessful at senior level is ridiculous :afridi
 
shah_1 said:
Waqar is 6 foot and Steyn is 5' 11"

You don't see too many bowlers being sucessful around height of 5' 7" , you need exceptional talent to do well in test cricket otherwise. Steyn and Marshall are rare examples.
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Oh man! I was excited that our system was working. :(
 
Getting tough for Bangladesh here as the RRR has gone up too
 
Aman said:
Fair enough, 5'7 and below is too small for a fast bowler tbh.
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Don't worry Shaheen vs. Nagarkotti coming up soon..

BTW that Ishan Porel is 6 ft 4. Bowls around 125 kph.. but with control

Also both Mavi and Nagarkotti are on 2018 IPL's auction that going under hammer tomorrow
 
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Hasan Ali is only 5' 7". Height is important but in the end skills matter more. I hope Nagarkoti keep learning and become first big player from Rajasthan to represent India
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] yes india decided that Australia would lose to them. 🙏
 
Nagarkotti is a brilliant fielder who was picked up at a young age by a coach who was impressed by his fielding on an uneven surface.
Would be great to have a bowling all rounder in the team with good fielding capabilities :kohli
 
[MENTION=131982]Haripotter[/MENTION] yes Nagarkotti has capabilities with bat too. You can see the bat swing in the six he hit against Australia. The guy is allround very talented from young age.
 
Beautiful and Fluid run up Nagarkotti has got.. All he needs is to bulk up a bit and if he his lucky maybe add 1 inch in the next one year
 
dhonixi said:
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] yes india decided that Australia would lose to them. 🙏
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It happened in the CT, I think in 2015 WC and now again. I'm not saying the fixtures are predecided or favouring India, just saying India gets lucky to meet BD in these tournaments in crunch games which is essentially a free pass to the next round.
 
JattMaula said:
Oh man! I was excited that our system was working. :(
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Bhumrah despite not so tall is doing well in ODIs/ T20s and so far doing alright in test cricket. Right now India bowling in test cricket is better than Pakistan and other teams your system is working well.
 
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Players from this U19 world cup that have the potential to be successful senior team players and future superstars (rest are "average" or "below average" with little or no cricketing future):

Bowlers: Shaheen Afridi, Muhammad Musa, Arshad Iqbal, Hasan Khan, Suleman Shafqat, Munir Riaz, Mohammad Ali Khan

Allrounders: Mohammad Taha, Saad Khan

Batsmen: Rohail Nazir, Ali Zaryab, Muhammad Zaid, Ammad Alam, Muhammad Mohsin Khan, Imran Shah
 
Syed1 said:
It happened in the CT, I think in 2015 WC and now again. I'm not saying the fixtures are predecided or favouring India, just saying India gets lucky to meet BD in these tournaments in crunch games which is essentially a free pass to the next round.
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You do know Bangladesh is a much better under-19 team than national team? Infact they beat India in Asia cup.
 
Aman said:
That's just one thing, they don't really looks over the age of 19 from their build to facial features. They look like schoolkids.
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I wouldn't go by the looks though. I've studied with Afghans and they , even at 19, look like grown men. Bangladeshis and most Indians age much slower than Pakistanis/Afghans.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I wouldn't go by the looks though. I've studied with Afghans and they , even at 19, look like grown men.

Bangladeshis and most Indians age much slower than Pakistanis/Afghans.
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Pakistani punjabis are genetically the same as Indian punjabis... The ones from KPK will be genetically nearer to the Afghans
 
Man this match is so boring. BD are not even trying to win.

I hope Pakistan put up more fight than BD. :29:
 
People who are saying India gets the easy eid should keep in mind that they top their group stage . They topped the World Cup 2015, champions trophy 2013 and this event in their group . That’s why they get the easy rides . Maybe if Pakistan decided to do the same they will face Bangladesh as well
 
India have peaked too eaely (hopefully), will get their bad game against Pakistan in sha Allah!
 
mkyawar said:
People who are saying India gets the easy eid should keep in mind that they top their group stage . They topped the World Cup 2015, champions trophy 2013 and this event in their group . That’s why they get the easy rides . Maybe if Pakistan decided to do the same they will face Bangladesh as well
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Err. Pakistan topped the group too
 
IAJ said:
India have peaked too eaely (hopefully), will get their bad game against Pakistan in sha Allah!
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Today the Indian batting was below par actually. For the first time in the tournament the Indian tream was bowled out.

The bowling was quite good though and fielding exceptional
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Yeah those two names and one of the Overton brothers are the only ones i can think of who possibly clocked that high.
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And they became the spearheads of their teams later on. Good signs for Nagarkoti. For me he is the find of this tournament. I mean people knew about Prithvi and Shaheen already but not this guy who has brought something to the table which is scarce in cricket these days - raw pace.
 
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