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If Imran Khan was captain from 2005-2015, which players would he have picked and moulded?

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Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Akmal, Mohammad Amir, who are the wasted players that Imran Khan might have been able to leverage?

Would Hafeez be a different beast? Would Afridi’s temperament be better?

Would Imran Khan ever pick someone like Misbah?

What would Pakistan cricket look like in the presence of one of the best captains of the game?

What is the playing XI?
 
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^ Imran Khan himself didn’t bat any faster than Misbah. He played a lot of Misbahesque innings in the 92 WC. He just happened to have a great bowling attack that he built and deserves credit for that.

I remember Harshas quote about Misbah, it’s like 10-12 family members blaming the sole bread winner of the family for not earning more :)) that’s got to be one of the greatest quotes I ever heard.
 
^ Imran Khan himself didn’t bat any faster than Misbah. He played a lot of Misbahesque innings in the 92 WC. He just happened to have a great bowling attack that he built and deserves credit for that.

I remember Harshas quote about Misbah, it’s like 10-12 family members blaming the sole bread winner of the family for not earning more :)) that’s got to be one of the greatest quotes I ever heard.

but why was he carrying those 10-12 family members

why didn't he experiment with different players?
which IK "theoretically" would have done
 
^ Imran Khan himself didn’t bat any faster than Misbah. He played a lot of Misbahesque innings in the 92 WC. He just happened to have a great bowling attack that he built and deserves credit for that.

I remember Harshas quote about Misbah, it’s like 10-12 family members blaming the sole bread winner of the family for not earning more :)) that’s got to be one of the greatest quotes I ever heard.

During those days, slow batting was common. 250 used to be a winning score in late-90's.
 
^ Imran Khan himself didn’t bat any faster than Misbah. He played a lot of Misbahesque innings in the 92 WC. He just happened to have a great bowling attack that he built and deserves credit for that.

I remember Harshas quote about Misbah, it’s like 10-12 family members blaming the sole bread winner of the family for not earning more :)) that’s got to be one of the greatest quotes I ever heard.

1. Difference of Strike Rates is attributable to difference in era.
2. Imran Khan could also bowl.
3. Imran Khan was a fantastic captain and leveraged the other players in the team in ways Misbah could only dream of.

I imagine that a lot of our players who “underachieved” might have done better under Imran. Much better. Maybe even Misbah!

I truly believe there is an alternate reality where Misbah successfully pulled off the last shot against India in 2007 with Imran at the other end telling him not to try anything stupid, and becoming the first true modern T20 superstar :afridi
 
Imran would have done away with Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq. He hated players who scored soft runs but loved warriors who loved a challenge and stepped up
 
Every great captain is able to extract the best out of the players he/she had. In LOIs Morgan and Dhoni are pretty good examples from last decade, they got whatever the best they could out of each player they had.

I am pretty sure Imran would have extracted the best out of the players in which ever era he played and players who werent mendable would have been booted out pretty early rather than carrying them on in the hope that one day they will sort themselves out.

So it could have been the case the Umer Akmal and co would have reached their potential or maybe we wouldnt have seen Umer Akmal at all in the long run and maybe some unknown commodity at domestic level would have been turned into a star at international level with Imran's ability to judge international caliber players.

One thing common in every great captain is clarity of mind regarding the kind of culture he/she wants in the team and the way he wants the team to go about their game. He only gives nod to the players who fit into that culture and is closely involved with the selectors.
 
There is a great quote by Shoaib Akhtar. “If I had played under Imran, either I would have ended up with 350 Test wickets or been kicked out within 6 months”.

Truer words have rarely been spoken.
 
Imran Khan's brand of Cricket wouldn't have worked post 2000. Even by late 90's it was becoming useless. Pakistan in 99 with a superior squad, weirdly tried to emulate the 92 team with cowardly defensive batting strategies. They made the final not for but inspite of their strategies. Both in 92 and 99 final, Pakistan played the exact brand of cricket. Only difference was the opposition had Mcgrath and Warne. Mcgrath conceded only 6-7 runs in his first spell of 6 overs with a wicket. Other bowlers were also tight which meant Pakistan were already behind the ball game when they faced Warne.

So Under Imran I think batting would've struggled as he never had an attacking mindset for the batting part of the game. But bowlers would've definitely been helped under his captaincy.

P.S. (I watched the highlights of the 99 final a few days back and boy Pakistan looked ancient infront of Australia. Aussies were fitter, way better fielding unit, way more talented and had a way better game plan. Dont understand how people claim Pakistan had a better team.)
 
No one could have saved Umar. The guy is a proper nut case.

Shehzad was always mediocre.
 
Why does this sound like every Pakistani cricketer who claims he would be a star had he played under Imran? :akhtar
 
A more recent example from Pakistan : A player like Babar Azam didn’t need anyone to manage him. He worked hard on his own, had a grounded approach, disciplined and hardworking guy + Talent & Skill. Sometimes I think players blame everything under the sun and look for a Messiah.

What can a captain do? At best give a player 5 chances or say 10 chances at best, you still have to put in the hard yards. Yes they deserve the credit for backing someone but when you fail to cash in on your chances you are the first and last guy who needs to take the blame.

There are a tens of thousands of cricketers in the SC Who would go any lengths for that one shot at fame or glory.
 
A more recent example from Pakistan : A player like Babar Azam didn’t need anyone to manage him. He worked hard on his own, had a grounded approach, disciplined and hardworking guy + Talent & Skill. Sometimes I think players blame everything under the sun and look for a Messiah.

What can a captain do? At best give a player 5 chances or say 10 chances at best, you still have to put in the hard yards. Yes they deserve the credit for backing someone but when you fail to cash in on your chances you are the first and last guy who needs to take the blame.

There are a tens of thousands of cricketers in the SC Who would go any lengths for that one shot at fame or glory.

Motivation, backing, and advice. Surely you are aware of the nature of Pakistan’s 90s dressing room where every player played for themselves and jealousies ran rampant by seniors towards juniors.

It does make a difference.
 
Easy!

Umar Akmal
Mohammad Sami
Shahid Afridi
Abdul Razzaq

And he would have managed Shoaib Akhtar carefully to prolong his Test career.

His SENA team would have been

1. Salman Butt
2. Taufeeq Umar
3. Yasir Hameed
4. Younis Khan
5. Mohammad Yousuf
6. Umar Akmal
7. Abdul Razzaq
8. Shahid Afridi
9. Kamran Akmal
10. Mohammad Sami
11. Mohammad Asif or Shoaib Akhtar
 
Easy!

Umar Akmal
Mohammad Sami
Shahid Afridi
Abdul Razzaq

And he would have managed Shoaib Akhtar carefully to prolong his Test career.

His SENA team would have been

1. Salman Butt
2. Taufeeq Umar
3. Yasir Hameed
4. Younis Khan
5. Mohammad Yousuf
6. Umar Akmal
7. Abdul Razzaq
8. Shahid Afridi
9. Kamran Akmal
10. Mohammad Sami
11. Mohammad Asif or Shoaib Akhtar

You dropped the kaptaan himself. :))
 
Yaseer hameed was talented, didn't see much of anwar so hameed is surely the most stylish pakistani opener i have seen.
Hameed, akhtar and afridi could have been more serious about their career if someone like imran was there to guide them.
 
Imran backed players with right attitude and work ethics, and obviously core skills. Besides, even in 1980s, early 90s, he was trying to build specialist teams for longer & shorter format.

I think, for Test squad definitely he would have backed Taufique Umar, Asim Kamal & May be Yasir Hameed among batsmen while Mo Sami, Danish Kaneria & Arshad among bowlers, may be Wahab & Gul as well (not to mention Asif & Amir - they would have forced their way, but Imran would have kept them focused or completely broken). And, I am sure A Razzak & Kamran Akmal would have been greats of the game. One player I am sure missed an Imran Khan was Sohail Khan - guy comes from a small town which didn’t help his cause but at that height & pace (when he first came), guy needed someone like Imran to back him, Sohail could bat a bit as well. The players that could have a tough time under Khan are the Mavericks - players with too big attitude, less work ethics - Afridi, Akhtar, Umar Akmal .... and players who should thank their luck for not having Imran around are like Hafeez, Malik..... For the LO cricket, I am sure Sohail Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Yasir Hameed, Butt .... should have a better & longer career.

His philosophy was very simple - hard work, commitment & skilled in at least one trait. One can put a filter & plot the names in different quarters.

I don’t think, coping up with “modern” tactics would have been any issue for Imran. He was the first guy (not Rantunga as per popular belief) who first brought unconventional batting strategy in ODI - opened with Yousuf as pinch hitter, often changed batting order to promote Wasim, Qadir, Sohail Fazal, Amir Malik .... he tried to groom a sort of “ODI specialists” in an era when often team used to play same XI for both Test & ODI. Players like Amir Malik, Manzoor Elahi, Navid Anjum, Shahid Saeed, Akram Raja, Sazzad Akbar, Iqbal Sikandar .... even Aquib Javed .... we’re sort of ODI specialists.

Kids here recall his 1992 batting without understanding the context - PAK went with one senior player in Javed and another half senior Malik was in horrible form .... then they lost Anwar at last moment. Imran first tried with Inzi at three and it resulted in a 10 wicket loss to WI, then 74 all-out to Poms.... that was the first WC played under longer with white balls and those white balls were moving/seeming crazy in first hour - it was his greatness that he decided to take the challenge and bat at three, which gave PAK an excellent balance of having a solid middle order that cashed on against old ball - Javed, Malik, Inzi, Izaj. At the end, they won five back to back games to win the trophy with Imran at 3 - not sure why people are complaining.

Playing his last game in March 1992, his career ODI SR was 73, despite that slow batting in 1992 WC, with an average of 33 - people have absolutely no clue of what sort of batting stats that is for that era, particularly from a batsman whose first 100 game’s bowling stats was average of 21 & economy of 3.5. For a clue, at similar time Allen Border had stats like 31/71, GR Vishi 20/53, Dulip Vengsarkar 35/68, David Gower 31/74, Gooch 37/62 ........ it was one my biggest surprise that this ex fast bowler, could have negotiated that white new ball as such from No. 3, yes he was lucky that Gooch dropped him. The way Pringle & other English pacers bowled for first 20 overs, in that 1992 final ..... many “modern great” batting lineup could have made it a T20 game....
 
Imran's masterplan was based on picking players with raw talent.

That may have worked in the 1980s and 1990s, but would have been out of date in the period quoted: 2005 - 2015.
 
Imran's masterplan was based on picking players with raw talent.

That may have worked in the 1980s and 1990s, but would have been out of date in the period quoted: 2005 - 2015.

Raw Talent is never out of date provided it is channeled correctly. Wasim and Waqar owe so much to Imran standing at mid off, mid on early on in their career's mentoring them ball to ball. Wasim benefited from this from 1984-1992 and Waqar from 1989 to 1992.

Imran also got the best out of limited cricketers like Tahir Naqqash, Mudassar Nazar, Saleem Jaffar, Aqib Javed, Tauseef Ahmed e.t.c.
 
^ Imran Khan himself didn’t bat any faster than Misbah. He played a lot of Misbahesque innings in the 92 WC. He just happened to have a great bowling attack that he built and deserves credit for that.

I remember Harshas quote about Misbah, it’s like 10-12 family members blaming the sole bread winner of the family for not earning more :)) that’s got to be one of the greatest quotes I ever heard.

Look at the quality of pitches and bowlers Imran faced vs Misbah. Laughable to compare both of them. Misbah doesn't even polish Imran's boots when it comes to captaincy, skills, batting or anything.
 
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