Better team as in those conditions, who is disputing that? The conditions were as cozy for you as you find at home.The world doesn't work on would haves.
You've been humbled in so many ICC events and still the excuses.
Accept you were beaten by a better team and move on instead of trying to justify your past failures.
Match could have been played on Mars, like I care.
More excuses.Everything is not black and white. There are some wins where you cant help but attach a stigma/asterisk to it. Ask some of our esteemed friends here, they are expert in adding asterisks.
For example, India's test series win in Australia 2018 was always downplayed bcoz Aussies were missing their 2 key players. Similarly, the WTC win by NZ has lots of eye brows and question marks since they played a full series in Eng just before that WTC finals. Ofcourse history books will have NZ beat India in WTC finals but there is more to the story than it meets the eye. That one off game which was heavily favoured towards NZ dont get to decide who is the better team.
Your hypothetical world doesn't change the fact we're World Champions or the fact India was unable to bat out a day to share honors when it mattered most. India have proven they're specialists in failing miserably when it matters most.
Have some sharam, you've been taking Ls from us in ICC events for a decade and you're talking about lectures and humblings in ICC events.
No one is adding an asterisk except salty Indian fans. NZ are world champions, India can take their faux hypothetical titles that their deluded fans have created to make themselves feel better.
)No one is adding an asterisk except salty Indian fans. NZ are world champions, India can take their faux hypothetical titles that their deluded fans have created to make themselves feel better.
NZ are world champions. N E W Z E A L A N D ARE W O R L D C H A M P S.
The funniest thing about these excuses is that the move to Southampton was supposed to favor India but mighty bharat failed
spectacularly still could salvage a draw despite a lot of the game being rained out and the game headed to a draw on the last day
Beet in the world my foot. Bottle jobs 444 life.
Whatever the reason, if it was at Lords, we would have won more convincingly than 8 wickets. Lords would have suited us more than Southampton.
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The best thing about this all is how Indian fans all downplayed the WTC and here we are 2 months later and they're still talking about it
NZ fans have moved on but reveal in the fact that they're WORLD CHAMPIONS. Inaugural as well, absolutely crushed India in the Final and coasted to victory
There isn't a bigger rondu than you. Equating excellence in sports with population of a country shows your literacy levels. Keep revelling in your illiteracy, suits you well.
The world doesn't work on would haves.
You've been humbled in so many ICC events and still the excuses.
Accept you were beaten by a better team and move on instead of trying to justify your past failures.
Everything is not black and white. There are some wins where you cant help but attach a stigma/asterisk to it. Ask some of our esteemed friends here, they are expert in adding asterisks.
For example, India's test series win in Australia 2018 was always downplayed bcoz Aussies were missing their 2 key players. Similarly, the WTC win by NZ has lots of eye brows and question marks since they played a full series in Eng just before that WTC finals. Ofcourse history books will have NZ beat India in WTC finals but there is more to the story than it meets the eye. That one off game which was heavily favoured towards NZ dont get to decide who is the better team.
NZ won the WTC final fair and square. They also won their 2 match series against England. They were a team in good form. We haven't beaten NZ in NZ and they haven't beaten India in India but both teams have beaten each other's neighbours.
When did NZ beat Pak away?
And the excuses continue.
Population certainly helps just look at the recent Olympics where China and America dominated. Compare this to India who despite a population of close to 1.5 billion only managed 1 Olympic gold medal.
More tears
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A lot of that is because we rarely tour those countries, and when we do we get 2-3 matches compared to India who tour every 2-3 years. If we toured as frequently as they did, no doubt we'd improve. It's safe to assume that as our players would only get more experience on how to play in those countries, need to remember before the last few tours, India were known to be pathetic away and generally got hammered and swept in humiliating fashion, now they're competing and winning despite being weaker (although a lot of that does have to do with Aus, England and SA declining big time).
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We've played a total of 5 games in Aus, Eng and Sa in the last 5 years, compared to the 20 India have...
They're going to play the same number of games we've played against those teams in this series alone than we have against all 3 teams in 5 years.
Your point is complete and utter nonsense.
One Olympic gold for a country the size of India is down right pathetic irrespective of money spent. There are countries much smaller and with far, far less investment who have done better.
India sent over better squads when they got hammered, difference now is key players have had experience in those countries and those teams are a lot weaker than they were back then.
Too late for it now, the ground work for these tours is done in earlier tours. By the time we get the experience, our golden generation will be gone and Aus, Eng and Sa will rebuilt.
Everyone knew the rules before hand and where the Finals was going to be played. Coming off like massive sore losers.
That's a fair enough justification, as is my explanation of some Indian fans being sore losers.
Greece have the same number of WTC's as India
Greece have the same number of WTC's as India
Good thing is Spain fans don't cry about it and have accept their defeat.
Nice tactics avoiding Greece fans
Spain doesn't get jacked up every time they play Greece
Yeah all good, just some banter here and there but it does get annoying when people try to downplay our win. This is our first world championship and what that team accomplished is special for NZ cricket fans, it's something a lot of fans thought they'd never see.
We don't need fast bowlers, 140kph + swing is enough. Jamieson ran through India multiple times with 135kph, his height and ability to move the ball both ways.
That loss hurt, but I got over it. Winning a world championship a few years later helped
That loss hurt, but I got over it. Winning a world championship a few years later helped
Don't think so. Nash looked much fluent in his bowling action while this guy's action and bowling stride look like a joke.
Would still want to win England series.
It is.
