If you want to tackle terror in Pakistan, we'll send our armymen: Rajnath Singh to Imran Khan

[MenInG]

efence Minister Rajnath Singh on Sunday gave a piece of advice to Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan saying that India is ready to assist Pakistan if the neighbouring country is serious enough to combat terror on its soil.

He also said that India will send its armed forces to Pakistan in this regard if the need arises.

"I would like to make a suggestion to Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan. If you are serious enough to fight against terror, we are ready to assist you. If you want our Army, then we will send them there for your help," Rajnath said while addressing a public rally here.

At the same time, the Defence Minister also slammed Imran Khan for his stance on Kashmir.

"I was listening to Imran Khan's speech where he had said that till Kashmir gets freedom, we will continue our fight over it. He also said that his country will continue to raise the Kashmir issue at international forums. Forget about Kashmir, don't even think about it. Raise the matter, nothing will happen. No one can exert pressure on us," he said.

Continuing to train his guns at Pakistan, Rajnath said, "You divided India into two pieces as part of the two-nation theory in 1947. But in 1971, your country was divided into two pieces again. And if the situation persists, then no power can stop Pakistan from being broken up further."

The Defence Minister said that the country is capable is giving a befitting reply to any misadventure by Pakistan.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...le-peace-kashmir-amit-shah-1609525-2019-10-15

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan on Tuesday condemned recent statements made by Indian Defence Minister Rajnath Singh during election rallies in Haryana, calling them "provocative and highly irresponsible".

"Statements from a senior Minister in the Indian government provide another insight into the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) mindset — a mix of extremist ideology, hegemonic ambitions, and obsession with Pakistan," read a statement issued by office of the Foreign Office spokesperson.

"It is highly irresponsible of the Indian defence minister to be threatening the splitting of a sovereign country. We are sure that the world community would take cognizance. For his part, Mr Rajnath Singh should have no doubt that the security forces and people of Pakistan remain ready to resolutely defend the country against any evil design," added the statement.

Singh on Sunday while addressing a public rally in Haryana's Karnal said India is "ready to assist Pakistan" to "combat terror on its soil".

"You divided India into two pieces as part of the two-nation theory in 1947," he was quoted as saying by India Today. "But in 1971, your country was divided into two pieces again. And if the situation persists, then no power can stop Pakistan from being broken up further."

The Foreign Office rejected Singh's "gratuitous" comments on help in counter-terrorism. "India would help itself by ceasing forthwith the state-terrorism it has been perpetrating for decades against the Kashmiri people in occupied Jammu and Kashmir. India must also cease its sponsorship of terrorism against Pakistan," said the statement.

The statement then pointed to the "well-established pattern" of the BJP leadership whipping up anti-Pakistan sentiment whenever there are elections in India to rally support for its candidates.

"As we have stressed before, the BJP should contest elections on the basis of its own performance, rather than dragging Pakistan into the domestic political foray for electoral gains," the FO statement reiterated.

This is not the first time that Singh has made such inflammatory remarks; in 2016, he was reported as saying that Pakistan would "soon be in ten pieces" if cross-border terrorism does not come to an end.

In August this year, the Indian defence minister had come under fire for his comments on the 'no first use' policy regarding nuclear weapons.

Singh had declared that while New Delhi had stuck to its commitment of 'no first use' policy regarding nuclear weapons, the future policy would depend upon the situation. According to analysts, this statement by India introduced a level of ambiguity in New Delhi's core national security doctrine.

Pakistan had denounced Singh’s statements as “irresponsible” and “unfortunate”, and vowed to maintain credible minimum deterrence posture.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1510979/p...s-provocative-highly-irresponsible-statements

 

[DRsohail]

joke of the decade.

 

[Mesozoic]

Great gesture by Rajnath Singh. But I don't think the Pakistan Army will recieve any help from Indian forces even if they are in turmoil.

 

[ahsan17]

He could help by asking RAW to stop supporting terrorism in FATA and Balochistan as well.

 

[Technics 1210]

LOL! Indians still rattled by the partition.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Should invite them into Azad Kashmir then let the locals deal with them.

 

[szundercover]

He is an joker without a brain....

 

[kk1992]

He is an joker without a brain....

I believe you are wrong.

Fake bravado made his constituent and RSS member feel like they the savior of sub-continent.

He knows exactly what he is doing.

 

[the Great Khan]

and we will have chai ready lol

 

[Thomaskutty]

Pakistan should accept this well intentioned offer from the defense minister, of sending Indian soldiers across the border to stamp out terror groups.
I remember reading an article in Dawn about 5 yrs ago, where their reporter asks the army chief Kayani about terror groups and his reply was something like - 'they're beyond our control now and I don't want to see Punjab break into pieces if we went against these groups.

 

[big_gamer007]

First half of the OP was good. I have always stated, terrorism affects both the nation's. It's an ideology which needs to be eradicated. If Pakistan needs help then India should offer help and make sub continent a terror free place.

Having said the above, I believe, Rajnath Singh was not sincere in his offer. If he was sincere he would not have taken jibes against Pakistan, or made tall statements and insulted the nation of Pakistan.

At the end of the day, it was just an election gimmick. If he was actually serious he could have had discussions with Pakistani counterpart about the same and offered his help.

India and Pakistan leadership (and majority of the public as well now) lacks trust.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistan should accept this well intentioned offer from the defense minister, of sending Indian soldiers across the border to stamp out terror groups.
I remember reading an article in Dawn about 5 yrs ago, where their reporter asks the army chief Kayani about terror groups and his reply was something like - 'they're beyond our control now and I don't want to see Punjab break into pieces if we went against these groups.

Fine, how about Pakistan makes a reciprocal well intentioned offer. Let Indian soldiers cross over to Pakistan to 'help' fight terrorism, and Pakistani soldiers can take over policing Indian side of Kashmir, thus freeing up half a million Indian troops to be deployed elsewhere.

 

[Runner Up]

Pak army was able to clear Swat and Waziristan despite very low numbers. What their one million army is doing in Kashmir? Fighting with stone pelters lol.

 

[Mesozoic]

Pak army was able to clear Swat and Waziristan despite very low numbers. What their one million army is doing in Kashmir? Fighting with stone pelters lol.

So, you want IA to shoot the stone pelters ?

And then you people claim that you care about your Kashmiri brothers.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Chai peene ko ghalib khayal acha hai.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Imran Khan was right, its impossible to talk to such people.

Dont know much about this Indian defence minister but after doing a search he looks like Dr Evil from Austin powers.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Fine, how about Pakistan makes a reciprocal well intentioned offer. Let Indian soldiers cross over to Pakistan to 'help' fight terrorism, and Pakistani soldiers can take over policing Indian side of Kashmir, thus freeing up half a million Indian troops to be deployed elsewhere.

This is a generous offer, but I am afraid I'm going to have to reject. I look at your army's track record, professionalism, the many wars it has waged in 70 yrs and it doesn't inspire much confidence. In fact I am positively horrified.

But I was serious about your army chief's comments. Maybe I can dig up that article on google and post it here.

 

[PakLFC]

Indian soldiers holed up in IoK can't even defeat a stone pelting army. They did send a soldier to us who ended up with a nice red face. Pak is much better now then compared to before where as Kashmiris and Sikhs to name a few are burning India. Pak should send it's soldiers to Indian Punjab and IoK to sort the mess there. "The tea is fantastic" by the way, remember Rajnath!?

 

[Slim]

Great gesture, only a terrorist can fight the terrorists. Indian army has great experience in conducting terrorism in Kashmir, we should welcome this opportunity with open hands.

 

[sweep_shot]

ACTS of terrorism in the country’s urban centres are certainly down, especially as compared to the situation a few years ago. However, this does not mean that the threat of militancy has been vanquished and the security apparatus can rest easy.

As reported in this paper on Tuesday, according to the Sindh police’s Counter-Terrorism Department, a “splinter cell” associated with Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent is “regrouping” in Karachi. The militants, it was said, had apparently returned from Afghanistan and were planning to activate sleeper cells in the metropolis. As Tuesday’s deadly bombing in Quetta demonstrates, the militants are on the lookout for soft targets and can strike whenever they have an opportunity to do so.

It should be remembered that before the militant threat was dealt several blows through a combination of military operations (eg Zarb-i-Azb) and police action in the cities, acts of terrorism had become a frequent, unfortunate part of life in Pakistan. Mosques, markets, schools and political rallies were all attacked by extremist killers, resulting in a high number of casualties and sending a wave of fear across the nation.

Thankfully, the situation has changed for the positive, though in the recent past, several attempts have been made to sabotage the relative stability in the country, such as the Kuchlak mosque bombing in August. The key, as experience shows, is to conduct intelligence-based operations and bust terrorist groups before they can carry out acts of violence.

In this regard, the Sindh CTD has done well to raise a red flag about the presence of AQIS in Karachi; now the security agencies must step into high gear and bust the cell before it is able to carry out acts of mayhem.

Militants may be keeping quiet, but this does not mean that they have abandoned their violent ways. For example, sectarian groups have also reared their ugly head, as a number of targeted killings in Karachi have recently indicated. But with a combination of good intelligence and law enforcement, these violent actors can be countered and put out of business.

The National Action Plan remains a workable solution to uproot terrorism from Pakistan, and needs to be implemented with full force.

This country has suffered much due to years of the state ignoring the terrorist threat. Now when the situation is relatively better, the state must prevent new threats from emerging, and neutralise the remnants of old militant outfits.

Link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1511078/aqis-in-karachi.

 

[King-Misbah]

This is a generous offer, but I am afraid I'm going to have to reject. I look at your army's track record, professionalism, the many wars it has waged in 70 yrs and it doesn't inspire much confidence. In fact I am positively horrified.

But I was serious about your army chief's comments. Maybe I can dig up that article on google and post it here.

Pakistani army is battle hardened, Indian armys recent record is a joke. This include losing fighter jets to Pakistan, shooting down its own helicopter my mistake.

 

[Mesozoic]

Pakistani army is battle hardened, Indian armys recent record is a joke. This include losing fighter jets to Pakistan, shooting down its own helicopter my mistake.

Please know the difference between Indian Army and Indian Air Force.

 

[King-Misbah]

Please know the difference between Indian Army and Indian Air Force.

Lets not go into too much technicalities. We both know that the army, air force and navy go hand in hand.

 

[Mesozoic]

Lets not go into too much technicalities. We both know that the army, air force and navy go hand in hand.

 

[Waseem]

Great gesture by Rajnath Singh. But I don't think the Pakistan Army will recieve any help from Indian forces even if they are in turmoil.

I do acknowledge the first real peace gesture by an Indian official, what better way to help your neighbour fight terror than stop sponsoring terror, hopefully no more Kalbhushans are prepared by Ajit Doval which will surely help Pakistan fight terror.

 

[Manager101]

What an irony, the sponsors of terrorism in Balochistan talking about helping us.

Pathetic hypocrites.

 

[ahsan17]

What an irony, the sponsors of terrorism in Balochistan talking about helping us.

Pathetic hypocrites.

In the same breath he talks about breaking up Pakistan. Yes, sounds like a genuine gesture.

 

[Rana]

Not sure about Terrorism but i wouldn't mind the armies of both countries working together to eradicate Islamic extremism which is in fact the biggest problem. Power and arms need to be taken away from these radical leaders who are the root cause of eventual terrorist activity.

 

[Mesozoic]

Not sure about Terrorism but i wouldn't mind the armies of both countries working together to eradicate Islamic extremism which is in fact the biggest problem. Power and arms need to be taken away from these radical leaders who are the root cause of eventual terrorist activity.

+1.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not sure about Terrorism but i wouldn't mind the armies of both countries working together to eradicate Islamic extremism which is in fact the biggest problem. Power and arms need to be taken away from these radical leaders who are the root cause of eventual terrorist activity.

Well perhaps both countries can tackle each other's radical extremists, let the Indian army come into Pakistan to eradicate Islamic extremists, and Pakistan military can eliminate RSS/Bajrang Dal camps in India. A good idea in fact.

 

[Rana]

Well perhaps both countries can tackle each other's radical extremists, let the Indian army come into Pakistan to eradicate Islamic extremists, and Pakistan military can eliminate RSS/Bajrang Dal camps in India. A good idea in fact.

As much as we hate RSS and Hindu extremists, they are novice at actually evolving into an entity that challenges the sovereignty of a Government unlike Islamic centralised terrorism who are armed with equipment that is way beyond the capacity of RSS organisations.

Terrorism needs to be rooted out and I don’t mind hardline Muslim leaders being ironed out.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

As much as we hate RSS and Hindu extremists, they are novice at actually evolving into an entity that challenges the sovereignty of a Government unlike Islamic centralised terrorism who are armed with equipment that is way beyond the capacity of RSS organisations.

Terrorism needs to be rooted out and I don’t mind hardline Muslim leaders being ironed out.

Anyone who puts forward a suggestion for a Hindutva army to work on rooting out Islamic extremists on Pakistani territory may as well hoist the tri-colours of India from his rooftop in my view.

 

[Patriot]

As much as we hate RSS and Hindu extremists, they are novice at actually evolving into an entity that challenges the sovereignty of a Government unlike Islamic centralised terrorism who are armed with equipment that is way beyond the capacity of RSS organisations.

Terrorism needs to be rooted out and I don’t mind hardline Muslim leaders being ironed out.

That’s because of the Pakistani military creating and arming these monsters. When you create a monster, be careful because it can also turn on its creator. Pakistan would have been a very different country if the army had not overstepped its bounds.

My sympathies and admiration for the regular men and women in the Pakistani military who give their lives so that the senior officers can play their game of thrones.

 

[Rana]

Anyone who puts forward a suggestion for a Hindutva army to work on rooting out Islamic extremists on Pakistani territory may as well hoist the tri-colours of India from his rooftop in my view.

Who is saying that it should be a hindutva army that helps Pakistan army in uprooting Islamic terrorism/extremism? India's punjabi/sikh soldiers are solely loyal to the country and not to Hindu ideology. Those regiments are probably the least hopeful for a war as they share sentiments with the people of Punjab on both sides but they are the ones at the forefront for their nation due to loyalty being a part of their DNA. Im sure the Pak army could use the help of these soldiers in fighting this evil, menace of society. Until you do not disarm the extremist leaders and their goons, and do not put the fear of the law within them, you will continue to see the rise of mislead Mujahideen who are going to cause heavy damage to Pakistan one way or another.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

Who is gonna terrorize the Kashmiri's then . I say come through , sou(100) bismillah .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Who is saying that it should be a hindutva army that helps Pakistan army in uprooting Islamic terrorism/extremism? India's punjabi/sikh soldiers are solely loyal to the country and not to Hindu ideology. Those regiments are probably the least hopeful for a war as they share sentiments with the people of Punjab on both sides but they are the ones at the forefront for their nation due to loyalty being a part of their DNA. Im sure the Pak army could use the help of these soldiers in fighting this evil, menace of society. Until you do not disarm the extremist leaders and their goons, and do not put the fear of the law within them, you will continue to see the rise of mislead Mujahideen who are going to cause heavy damage to Pakistan one way or another.

India's Punjabi/Sikh army take their orders from a Hindutva govt, ergo they will be a Hindutva army. I don't know which fantasyland you are residing where you think their army loyalty lies anywhere else but to serve their elected leaders, but I see no point in discussing this issue further. I have seen these type of views before and I know where they are coming from. In my house no one can come from outside and administer punishment to my family no matter how unruly the children have been. I do it myself or I wouldn't call it my house. You may have a different philosophy and you are entitled to it but I don't think it is one shared by most people of any country.

 

[Technics 1210]

This a great idea. Wind them up in a valley then slingshot them to the center of the sun - Wile E. Coyote style! The world would be much lighter and happier place after getting rid of the world's largest right-wing, fascist, racist, and terrorist ideology - Hindutva. Saffron soldiers of fortune staring in Contra 21 in IMAX.

 

[Rana]

India's Punjabi/Sikh army take their orders from a Hindutva govt, ergo they will be a Hindutva army. I don't know which fantasyland you are residing where you think their army loyalty lies anywhere else but to serve their elected leaders, but I see no point in discussing this issue further. I have seen these type of views before and I know where they are coming from. In my house no one can come from outside and administer punishment to my family no matter how unruly the children have been. I do it myself or I wouldn't call it my house. You may have a different philosophy and you are entitled to it but I don't think it is one shared by most people of any country.

It’s this mindset that has messed up Pakistan at least and quite an extent India also. “no one can tell us how to mind our business”. So what clout does PM Imran khan have when he is constantly demanding the world media and leaders to intervene in India’s business on Kashmir.

Our Army has been useless in degrading the power of the radical Islamic leaders. They are the root cause to all issues and need to be driven out. Until you are not ready to clean up the mess, expect help from those who want this mess cleaned up.

 

[Patriot]

It’s this mindset that has messed up Pakistan at least and quite an extent India also. “no one can tell us how to mind our business”. So what clout does PM Imran khan have when he is constantly demanding the world media and leaders to intervene in India’s business on Kashmir.

Our Army has been useless in degrading the power of the radical Islamic leaders. They are the root cause to all issues and need to be driven out. Until you are not ready to clean up the mess, expect help from those who want this mess cleaned up.

At what cost though. Outsiders will have their own agendas. If you think India is innocent and altruistic then you are naive. The issues they can cause if allowed to do this are numerous. Kashmir is a great example. India keeps telling the world that Kashmir is their own internal matter, fair enough, but they have handled it abysmally. Kashmir is a good example of how not to do things. So why should an incompetent organisation like the Indian military be used to clean up Pakistan’s mess. North Korea would be more competent than the Indians.

 

[Rana]

At what cost though. Outsiders will have their own agendas. If you think India is innocent and altruistic then you are naive. The issues they can cause if allowed to do this are numerous. Kashmir is a great example. India keeps telling the world that Kashmir is their own internal matter, fair enough, but they have handled it abysmally. Kashmir is a good example of how not to do things. So why should an incompetent organisation like the Indian military be used to clean up Pakistan’s mess. North Korea would be more competent than the Indians.

It’s all about who has what at stake? Why would North Korea put the lives of their Soldiers at risk for Pakistan??

India believe everything that goes wrong in their country is a result of plots that have hatched in Pakistan. They would risk the lives of their soldiers if it is to root out the root cause of issues.

 

[Patriot]

It’s all about who has what at stake? Why would North Korea put the lives of their Soldiers at risk for Pakistan??

India believe everything that goes wrong in their country is a result of plots that have hatched in Pakistan. They would risk the lives of their soldiers if it is to root out the root cause of issues.

I just used North Korea as an example. I’m not saying to ask for their help.

My point is that the Indian military/Government has handled Kashmir abysmally since partition, what makes you think they will be any more competent in rooting out terrorists in Pakistan. This is Pakistan’s mess to sort out, not anyone else’s. Inviting foreign organisations to deal with this is inviting trouble.