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The Camera did not show the incident and the commentators did not discuss the issue when the Game was halted.

It had something to do with Imam-ul-Haq when he got out.

Does anyone know what happened?
 
Probably some douche giving him the usual stick. Pak fans sometimes really are the worst.
 
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Feel bad for Imam. The lad cant do much except to score some runs

Until Inzi is the selector Imam will keep getting the stick.
 
Imam really needs to be cautioned here. He’s reacting to everything he hears against him. Needs to accept people will never like him and just get on with it.
 
Looks like he was called the P word.

That's what he got called in almost every PSL match too (he really didn't deserve PSL selection!).

He's reacting to everything, which is bad for him. He started calling himself an automatic selection, without knowing he has the worst strike rate of all the openers of all the countries. Significantly worse. [MENTION=2344]W63L35[/MENTION].


Right now he should just focus on improving the strike rate and keep the average intact.

Don't react to such incidents. They WILL HAPPEN. Can't stop the crowd.
 
Look, he is where he is because of his Uncle and that is a fact, so it's hardly surprising that he's going to be massively insecure and a self-entitled brat. These incidents are going to keep repeating themselves until the kid learns to talk with his bat.
 
How I wish Imam had beaten the crap out of that guy!

The players don't owe you anything if you have that kind of an attitude against them.

He has no obligation to respect such 'fans'. The guy played a good innings and there's no need to provoke him.
 
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Look, he is where he is because of his Uncle and that is a fact, so it's hardly surprising that he's going to be massively insecure and a self-entitled brat. These incidents are going to keep repeating themselves until the kid learns to talk with his bat.

Lol! We also saw the ones who were there w/o the support of their uncles. What miracles did they achieve for the team?

He's talked with his bat and has kept his place because of it. Please read up on some stats before spewing biased drivel.
 
Just because he is inzi’s nephew, he is the target of a lot of hate..that’s just wrong and unfair. He has performed with the bat. Give him some room!
 
He has performed and been selected purely on merit. Leaps and bounds ahead of Shan Masood and Sami Aslam
 
Just because he is inzi’s nephew, he is the target of a lot of hate..that’s just wrong and unfair. He has performed with the bat. Give him some room!

Agree with all who have commented in this way. He has had an ok start. GIve him some space. No need to provoke a young player
 
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Looks like he was called the P word.

That's what he got called in almost every PSL match too (he really didn't deserve PSL selection!).

He's reacting to everything, which is bad for him. He started calling himself an automatic selection, without knowing he has the worst strike rate of all the openers of all the countries. Significantly worse. [MENTION=2344]W63L35[/MENTION].


Right now he should just focus on improving the strike rate and keep the average intact.

Don't react to such incidents. They WILL HAPPEN. Can't stop the crowd.

Worse S/R and 2nd worst average....against main teams;

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And there's only one other Pakistani batsman there which is 29 year old Fakhar. 23 year old Imam has done well to get on to that list. Thanks for this!

That's because it's only opening batsmen that are included who have scored over 250 runs.
Imam is a match loser at the moment with his strike rate on flatter wickets in ODIs and is rightly called out for his selection he isn't justifying the faith put in him.
 
And there's only one other Pakistani batsman there which is 29 year old Fakhar.

sharjeel Khan is also on the list but you did not notice.

23 year old Imam has done well to get on to that list. Thanks for this!

Nope. The other opening batsmen were much more pathetic than Imam.... and they were given those chances so that they can be dropped .. and then Imam could be selected. These are all Pakistani openers .... since 1/1/2017.

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Looks like he was called the P word.

That's what he got called in almost every PSL match too (he really didn't deserve PSL selection!).

He's reacting to everything, which is bad for him. He started calling himself an automatic selection, without knowing he has the worst strike rate of all the openers of all the countries. Significantly worse. [MENTION=2344]W63L35[/MENTION].


Right now he should just focus on improving the strike rate and keep the average intact.

Don't react to such incidents. They WILL HAPPEN. Can't stop the crowd.

Partially agree. While I don’t condone these types of actions towards players, he has shown to be mentally weak and obnoxious at times. Takes everything super serious, shows up as somewhat insecure and uptight, so incidents like these will affect him more and he may be targeted even more in the future.
 
Partially agree. While I don’t condone these types of actions towards players, he has shown to be mentally weak and obnoxious at times. Takes everything super serious, shows up as somewhat insecure and uptight, so incidents like these will affect him more and he may be targeted even more in the future.

I disagree. He's not the usual type who would take crap from the people and don't say anything back. These cricketers are humans and need to be respected. I don't know why we expect them to cop all kinds of criticism and not utter a word.

Reacting to criticism does not make you mentally weak. There's only so much abuse a person can take. Imam has all the right to snap back.
 
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I disagree. He's not the usual type who would take crap from the people and don't say anything back. These cricketers are humans and need to be respected. I don't know why we expect them to cop all kinds of criticism and not utter a word.

Reacting to criticism does not make you mentally weak. There's only so much abuse a person can take. Imam has all the right to snap back.

Mentally weak or not, you suggested that he should have beat the fan up. Even by a forum fans standard, that's messed up. The P word uttering guy will get his 5 min of fame, Imam on the other hand, a ban from WC.
 
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I do agree that Imam should chill down & manage such nuisance better, but can’t blame him much. Fans will come to field while players will try to perform & entertain, but if some people come with an agenda to get under skin, you can’t blame players always. Imam isn’t certain to start every game in WC (no batsman batting Babar & may be Hafrez are), therefore he is also tense & his uncle’s profile adds weight (quite a bit) to it - could have tolerated during batting, but probably not when he has just got out & after playing quite a decent innings.

Also, heredity demands that next Ul Haq should chase a spectator with something at some point - why are we surprised?
 
Mentally weak or not, you suggested that he should have beat the fan up. Even by a forum fans standard, that's messed up. The P word uttering guy will get his 5 min of fame, Imam on the other hand, a ban from WC.

I obviously said that in jest! But I do feel like he has all the right to give it back to anyone who spouts rubbish like that. Enough of this one-way street where cricketers have to keep shut in the face of all kinds of abuse.
 
I obviously said that in jest! But I do feel like he has all the right to give it back to anyone who spouts rubbish like that. Enough of this one-way street where cricketers have to keep shut in the face of all kinds of abuse.

But its just plain stupid to react. A random Face in the crowd has nothing to lose by Imam reacting against him. But Imam has a lot to lose. Its unfair but the best choice for Imam is to ignore such people and try to perform better with the bat. A couple of match winning performances in pressure situations will get him a ton of support overnight. However, he hasnt shown any such capability thus far.
 
Apparently the guys were calling Imam p@rchi, in return he said a few things to them. Amir and Imad also got involved in a back and forth before these guys were eventually kicked out.

Pathetic. Do these guys go there to support the team or to make themselves a laughing stock?
 
Fans of other teams are also reacting like this?
Or this is Pakistani fans unique ability to hurt our own players
 
These "fans" should have been arrested for breach of the peace. A criminal record might make them think twice about abusing players who are just fellow humans doing their job. I feel sorry for Imam. He's clearly a very talented batsman who is improving all the time but for circumstances he can't control he is always targeted.
 
Partially agree. While I don’t condone these types of actions towards players, he has shown to be mentally weak and obnoxious at times. Takes everything super serious, shows up as somewhat insecure and uptight, so incidents like these will affect him more and he may be targeted even more in the future.


Yep.

If he doesn't do well at the World Cup, he's gonna have really tough time ahead with the crowd. And media.

Should take some mental health lessons from Misbah.


Also, heredity demands that next Ul Haq should chase a spectator with something at some point - why are we surprised?


That cracked me up. :)))
 
Worse S/R and 2nd worst average....against main teams;

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He produced a Man of the Series performance in South Africa earlier this year. That is more relevant than his performances against New Zealand and India in 2018, because players can improve with time.

He did fail in the three ODIs against Australia, but I will personally wait till the end of World Cup to conclude if he has what it takes to do well against the top teams consistently.

Besides, not every performance against a lowly team is worthless. His 80 against Afghanistan in the Asia Cup was a vital innings and saved us from a certain defeat.

Chasing 250 in the UAE against Rashid and Mujeeb is not a cakewalk. Also, he was the only batsman to show fight in the must-win game against Bangladesh and scored 80+.

Our fans need to cut him some slack - Inzamam helped him get a break but he didn’t help him score a hundred on debut, win Man of the Series in South Africa and top score for Pakistan in the Asia Cup.

Imam is a decent young player who has shown solid temperament and composure when other so-called “merit walay” batsmen have lost their heads.

Yes he is no world beater and never will be, but people forget that Pakistan is a mediocre team and most of our players are minnow-bashers anyway, because if they weren’t, we would be ranked in the top 2-3 now.

The way people criticize him and call p@rchi etc. is if he is keeping Rohits and Warners out of the team. He has done more than enough to justify his selection.
 
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Fans of other teams are also reacting like this?
Or this is Pakistani fans unique ability to hurt our own players

firstly I hate this stuff from some of our jahil fans..typical louts who will go to the cricket and want to ape football hooligans. As if its some kind of badge of honour.

However one aspect that must be remembered is that Pakistani fans do not worship their team. We expect them to serve us. They are there to entertain us and bring honour to the country. They are treated as public servants and thus criticised as such when they fail.This is the difference between the way Pakistani fans treat their team and how other countries treat their team. yes if some players become superstars they develop a following but equally these superstars are hit harder when they fail.

I remember going to watch a leicester vs pakistan game in 96 with my cousin who was from karachi. he was shocked at the way the plaeyrs were strutting around and being quite arrogant with some of the fans. He said " if they were in karachi they wouldnt dare act like premadonnas or we would have beaten the living daylights out of them" ..his words..now whether they would have got a beating or not isnt the point, its the attitude..
 
Stupid from the fans but Imam needs to learn how to handle himself better. Is he really gonna get aggressive with anyone who questions his selection. Just let his bat do the talking.
 
I have criticisms of Imam but the behaviour of some desis in public places is totally embarassing and so are the posters attacking Imam.

Congratulations to this attention seeking fan, you've made a complete tw@t of yourself in full view of the public and the commentators on the air, and got yourself kicked out of the game.

Why bother turning up if you're going to harass your own players ? Even if you dislike Imam, keep it to yourself instead of haranguing him while he's trying to perform for his country.
 
When you read that a brown cricketer gets called the ‘P’ word in England you think of the worst.

Thankfully you weren’t talking about that.

To be honest calling someone ‘parchi’ may be rude and ill mannered but it doesn’t deserved being kicked out the ground for.



Looks like he was called the P word.

That's what he got called in almost every PSL match too (he really didn't deserve PSL selection!).

He's reacting to everything, which is bad for him. He started calling himself an automatic selection, without knowing he has the worst strike rate of all the openers of all the countries. Significantly worse. [MENTION=2344]W63L35[/MENTION].


Right now he should just focus on improving the strike rate and keep the average intact.

Don't react to such incidents. They WILL HAPPEN. Can't stop the crowd.
 
Spoke with someone who was there and he said it was just a little skirmish with a few idiots in the crowd-nothing too serious.
 
He produced a Man of the Series performance in South Africa earlier this year. That is more relevant than his performances against New Zealand and India in 2018, because players can improve with time.

He did fail in the three ODIs against Australia, but I will personally wait till the end of World Cup to conclude if he has what it takes to do well against the top teams consistently.

Besides, not every performance against a lowly team is worthless. His 80 against Afghanistan in the Asia Cup was a vital innings and saved us from a certain defeat.

Chasing 250 in the UAE against Rashid and Mujeeb is not a cakewalk. Also, he was the only batsman to show fight in the must-win game against Bangladesh and scored 80+.

Our fans need to cut him some slack - Inzamam helped him get a break but he didn’t help him score a hundred on debut, win Man of the Series in South Africa and top score for Pakistan in the Asia Cup.

Imam is a decent young player who has shown solid temperament and composure when other so-called “merit walay” batsmen have lost their heads.

Yes he is no world beater and never will be, but people forget that Pakistan is a mediocre team and most of our players are minnow-bashers anyway, because if they weren’t, we would be ranked in the top 2-3 now.

The way people criticize him and call p@rchi etc. is if he is keeping Rohits and Warners out of the team. He has done more than enough to justify his selection.

Imam has progressed nicely and I'm happy for him however I think he should be brought into the first team after the WC because Abid Ali just looks a much better batsman against pace and spin, or promoting Babar to open, so Haris can bat at 3 (his preferred spot).

He's not ready for the WC and he is the among the slowest of all the accumulators in the side. Babar and Haris have been criticised for batting slowly, but this guy is even more sedate.

Imam should go into the WC as backup option if any of our openers fail/ get injured.
 
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bhai...indian fans are worse...i remember our guys laying into ravi jadeja some time back....
 
Spoke with someone who was there and he said it was just a little skirmish with a few idiots in the crowd-nothing too serious.

crowds the world over are the same. I wouldn't call them idiots

If Imam did something to escalate - which is anything outside totally ignoring them - then he is the idiot.
The crowds will only get worse as he plays in more hostile environments than a practice game
 
Pathetic stuff from so called "fans", they need to get behind each and every player. Imam needs to learn just ignore it and eventually these morons will get bored and move onto something else.
 
We all know that he is a P@rchi player and would not have made the Pakistan national ODI team on merit alone. He was selected over better batsmen and Pakistani public think it happened mainly because he is nephew of chief selector. So Pakistani public think they have the right to abuse him because he jump the queue.
 
We all know that he is a P@rchi player and would not have made the Pakistan national ODI team on merit alone. He was selected over better batsmen and Pakistani public think it happened mainly because he is nephew of chief selector. So Pakistani public think they have the right to abuse him because he jump the queue.

Can you please list down all the other *better batsmen*?
 
People forget just how young he is. In his very early twenties, constantly a media and now crowd target, of course he will react.

Everyone needs to relax and let him play.
 
I obviously said that in jest! But I do feel like he has all the right to give it back to anyone who spouts rubbish like that. Enough of this one-way street where cricketers have to keep shut in the face of all kinds of abuse.

I fully understand your frustration. I sometimes wish I could beat up those wicked fans in place of the players for uttering rubbish for no apprerant reason. Espacially when the players are getting abused from their own fan. However, like it or not, we live in a society where no name idiots will be given more importance than the superstar getting abused. Media will reflect on the poor decision made by the superstar, and will hamper his carreer moving forward. He/She will have more to loose if they react vs if they just walk away without showing importance to those words thrown at them.

Imam has a tendency of nitpicking every small thing. He is new to the arena, still, but in the longer run will get into trouble/mentally break down if he keeps on turning every rock that comes along. IMHO, this guy is very immature mentally, not one to take criticism/words thrown at him well. This is where a sport psychologist is needed for the team to mentally toughen up these superstars.
 
Nobody would have said anything if he was the highest run scorer in domestic cricket...

And who is the highest run scorer in domestic cricket? Kamran Akmal? Khurram Manzoor?

Pakistan's domestic system is as bad is it comes.

The actual thing is Imam got his chance when Shehzad was dropped during SriLanka series and he grabbed the opportunity with both hands as did Fakhar during champions trophy.

Just because he is the nephew of current selector doesn't mean that he does not deserve to be in the team. A team like Pakistan cannot afford to lose a player who can stay on wicket and score with 80-90 SR.
 
Abid Ali should be played ahead of him. He looks to be more aggressive of the two.
 
He produced a Man of the Series performance in South Africa earlier this year. That is more relevant than his performances against New Zealand and India in 2018, because players can improve with time.

He did fail in the three ODIs against Australia, but I will personally wait till the end of World Cup to conclude if he has what it takes to do well against the top teams consistently.

Besides, not every performance against a lowly team is worthless. His 80 against Afghanistan in the Asia Cup was a vital innings and saved us from a certain defeat.

Chasing 250 in the UAE against Rashid and Mujeeb is not a cakewalk. Also, he was the only batsman to show fight in the must-win game against Bangladesh and scored 80+.

Our fans need to cut him some slack - Inzamam helped him get a break but he didn’t help him score a hundred on debut, win Man of the Series in South Africa and top score for Pakistan in the Asia Cup.

Imam is a decent young player who has shown solid temperament and composure when other so-called “merit walay” batsmen have lost their heads.

Yes he is no world beater and never will be, but people forget that Pakistan is a mediocre team and most of our players are minnow-bashers anyway, because if they weren’t, we would be ranked in the top 2-3 now.

The way people criticize him and call p@rchi etc. is if he is keeping Rohits and Warners out of the team. He has done more than enough to justify his selection.

That's what I don't understand.

If he was a terrible player, I would call for nepotism, but that SA series should be one that he should be given a lot of credit for.

Two fifties and a century is arguably one of the best SA batting performances in all our history (as we have had a pretty terrible record there).

Of course his SR is an issue, as is the case with Babar, but take away the name on the jersey and he easily belongs. I was not a fan because I did not think he was good enough, but SA should hush the doubters for the foreseeable future. He is a bit like Shehzad, but less selfish, and with a bigger hunger for runs. If there were better options, I am all for it, but are there? Sharjeel is banned, Shehzad always fails on the big stage, Umar if you do bring him in, should be an opener, but he's entirely irresponsible with his wicket. Abid Ali, sure, would not mind either, but we did not give him enough matches to be comfortable to play in the WC (which is a failure on management).

He is the best option, for better or for worse, and to constantly attack him is silly. He deserves his spot on merit, and as a Pakistani fan, why would you call him out on it, do you not want him to be confident for his WC for your team? To bring him down will only lower his confidence and ironically hurt Pakistan cricket.

23 years old, everyone saying his selection was only due to his uncle, and with all that pressure, he scored a century on debut, had a very good series in SA, which was fairly recent, after some poor showings against better teams early on. After a poor Asia Cup, everyone kept talking of minnow basher, and he rose to the occasion with all the skeptics and was for Pakistani standards, excellent.

He is far from perfect, as is the case with most batsmen since MoYo retired, but there is little else better, and given his upbringing, we should actually be impressed that he has had the mental fortitude to still look like a very good player. It isn't easy being told your selection isn't based on merit, and then having the pressure to perform to prove that you belong.

We need to support Imam, he isn't going anywhere, nor should he, and take the name away, and we would think we might have something here, but unfortunately for him, that cannot be taken away, and as a result hyperbole and contempt will reign free.
 
Imam stinks.

He is like Imran Farhat. Not good or bad but might get you by from time to time. One dimensional minnow basher in the making.
 
And who is the highest run scorer in domestic cricket? Kamran Akmal? Khurram Manzoor?

Pakistan's domestic system is as bad is it comes.

The actual thing is Imam got his chance when Shehzad was dropped during SriLanka series and he grabbed the opportunity with both hands as did Fakhar during champions trophy.

Just because he is the nephew of current selector doesn't mean that he does not deserve to be in the team. A team like Pakistan cannot afford to lose a player who can stay on wicket and score with 80-90 SR.

Agree with you but why dont Imam take 6 months off from Internation cricket and score runs in domestic if you are saying it is that easy. I am not saying he doesn't deserve to be in Pak cricket but he needs to admit that he is p@rchi and when people call him then he doesn't need to get all hyper
 
Embarrassment. If you don't like his selection keep it to yourself. No need to abuse the guy during the game.

Imam needs to mentally prepare himself for this. Certain people will target his every move due to the way he was selected .
 
People need to understand that when Imam was selected he hit 4 domestic centuries that year, 2 in Emerging Asia cup u23 and 2 in FC, no other domestic opener had that much form that time. Any other selector would have selected him. He is definitely not a p@rchi.
 
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crowds the world over are the same. I wouldn't call them idiots

If Imam did something to escalate - which is anything outside totally ignoring them - then he is the idiot.
The crowds will only get worse as he plays in more hostile environments than a practice game

Just to clarify, the term idiot was the language used by the guy who I asked about this incident and who was at the ground and not my language towards the fans.
 
Imam is going to be a marked-man by some fans and will be a target for the boo-boys.

He needs to silence them in the best way possible and that is with his bat by scoring runs.
 
Imam is going to be a marked-man by some fans and will be a target for the boo-boys.

He needs to silence them in the best way possible and that is with his bat by scoring runs.

I think it's high time we ditch this concept of 'let you bat do the talking'. While I agree that him scoring match winning runs would shut quite a few up, he still doesn't deserve be to be abused like that. He's a human and if you repeated lay into a person, he is going to snap.
 
I think it's high time we ditch this concept of 'let you bat do the talking'. While I agree that him scoring match winning runs would shut quite a few up, he still doesn't deserve be to be abused like that. He's a human and if you repeated lay into a person, he is going to snap.

Professional sportsmen have to be thicker-skinned than most people.

If he keeps snapping that will encourage people to target him even more.
 
Professional sportsmen have to be thicker-skinned than most people.

If he keeps snapping that will encourage people to target him even more.

Does that mean we can anything [statistically) to the players on this forum? :)

Just joking.... you don't have to reply!
 
Imam is going to be a marked-man by some fans and will be a target for the boo-boys.

He needs to silence them in the best way possible and that is with his bat by scoring runs.
scoring runs not enough in today's cricket; he has to score runs with good strike rate.
 
Imam is going to be a marked-man by some fans and will be a target for the boo-boys.

He needs to silence them in the best way possible and that is with his bat by scoring runs.

Absolutely. He needs some education on how to deal with the crowds.

There are two ways i think.

A) join the crowds, laugh at them and enjoy the moment.

B) ignore them
 
I think he and players need to realise they are not in Pakistan. In the UK the fans see them as players and if they have never won anything for Pakistan, they are not heros yet. Supporters are the ones who put money in players pockets so if you are not performing or you are suspected of getting into the team due to powerful relations this will not go down well. If you be lazy in the field, drop an easy catch or field poorly you will criticised too.

Sure there are a few numpties who go over board with abuse which is wrong but footballers face much worse but hardly react. Imam and other players need to understand this is part of their job.
 
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