Improvement in Rahat Ali?

[shah_1]

Rahat Ali, Juniad Khan and Eshan Edil are the best three fast bowlers we have right now for test cricket. Should stick with these bowlers, others are strictly average skill wise and I see no hope.

 

[Mamoo_cricket]

Rahat Ali, Juniad Khan and Eshan Edil are the best three fast bowlers we have right now for test cricket. Should stick with these bowlers, others are strictly average skill wise and I see no hope.

What about

 

[JibranAnsari]

Should be dropped nless he improved his fielding.

 

[GreenKnightRises]

What a waste of space this dude is. liability in the field and his mediocre line and length bowling isn't helping his bowling cause either.

 

[GreenKnightRises]

Wahab is better than this fellow

 

[Mamoon]

Was unlucky thanks to some woeful fielding and keeping.

Complete liability in the field though.

 

[Saj]

I think he's bowled well today amongst all the carnage. Kept his line and length and also swung the ball.

Ever-improving.

 

[Mamoon]

Has looked pretty decent, he deserves to be retained after Junaid and Wahab come back but three left arm pacers would make the attack very one dimensional.

Will have to fight it out with Ehsan. Talha and Imran are done in my view.

 

[Strike Rate]

Only bowler in this innings who is showing something

 

[JibranAnsari]

Wahab can not open the bowling so he can not really be our first choice. So unless you find someone who can swing the new ball rahat should be our first choice. Swings both old and new ball.

 

[asyed]

Wow what a great swing in mode by some here. Not too long ago ppl here were talking about he Rahat bowls mediocre line and length and doesn't deserve a spot and now he is the best, can swing both old and new ball both ways (his fielding remains a week link).

No offense but this explain how impatient and naive we're and also lack intellectual abilities.

 

[hur rizvi]

On full strength, we should rotate these bowlers

Amir(If he is decent enough after comeback)
junaid
Wahab
Rahat
Ehsan

 

[shaaik]

he is little similar to asif with his line, speed. Thats what I noticed too

No, to say that is an insult to a talent Asif was or is .... However, having said he still has some makings of a good fast bowler...


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[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think he's bowled well today amongst all the carnage. Kept his line and length and also swung the ball.

Ever-improving.

I didn't watch the full game, but I saw the wickets, and to be honest he didn't get them through great bowling, it was more a case of the batsmen giving their wickets on a couple of them. But then I suppose you could say he might have been unlucky on other occasions. Not too long ago we were calling him unlucky Rahat after all.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I didn't watch the full game, but I saw the wickets, and to be honest he didn't get them through great bowling, it was more a case of the batsmen giving their wickets on a couple of them. But then I suppose you could say he might have been unlucky on other occasions. Not too long ago we were calling him unlucky Rahat after all.

Was the best bowler by far. Rahat lacked support since Zulfi and Talha were getting murdered and yasir was bowling tripe for the most part too. No pressure applied from the other end at all.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Talha has bowled really well , he has skills but his bowling intelligence is not upto the mark. Hopefully a worthy bowling partner will help him game.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Talha has bowled really well , he has skills but his bowling intelligence is not upto the mark. Hopefully a worthy bowling partner will help him game.

You mean Rahat I take it?

 

[JibranAnsari]

You mean Rahat I take it?

oh yah , grave mistake.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Talha has bowled really well , he has skills but his bowling intelligence is not upto the mark. Hopefully a worthy bowling partner will help him game.

Assuming you meant Rahat, i agree .

 

[saeedhk]

Another poor bowler that we've produced in the last 3/4 years. He ,at his best, would probably average 35.

 

[m.shah]

new ball skills are still average

 

[hur rizvi]

new ball skills are still average

infact he has better new ball skills compared to most bowlers available to Pakistan

Its his direction and bowling intelligence which needs improvement

 

[Saj]

To be fair to him he beat the bat quite a few times today and could have finished up with more than 4 wickets.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Just a thought but considering the lack of new ball skills in Pakistan, why haven't Rahat and Adil been tried out in ODI's. The two new ball rule has pretty much finished off Gul's career and Junaid cannot swing the new ball either.

 

[Strike Rate]

He did improve in longer format but lets see if he got anything to offer in limited over format.

 

[Strike Rate]

He is a very good learner

 

[ugem]

Great bowling. A part from first over, he bowled superbly.

 

[Hamza_]

Gem of bowling from Rahat.

 

[Abid Z]

Very good bowling from him today.

 

[Itachi]

zimbos made him look good. he is still rubbish if we take NZ, AUS, India, RSA as opposition.

 

[Strike Rate]

zimbos made him look good. he is still rubbish if we take NZ, AUS, India, RSA as opposition.

The good thing about him is that he continue to improve he was rubbish when started playing cricket he is different than our other bowlers who start with a bang and than never improve and their performance go down in year.

 

[JaDed]

He is improving but performances shouldn't be based on matches in Brisbane or Perth as most pitches wouldn't be bowler friendly.

 

[Strike Rate]

He is improving but performances shouldn't be based on matches in Brisbane or Perth as most pitches wouldn't be bowler friendly.

Agree but i will surely give him UAE match if not SA match.

 

[angrypathan]

Agree but i will surely give him UAE match if not SA match.

I'd give him the saffers as well, iirc he took a 6fer on debut against them (test cricket of course, but still notable)

 

[JaDed]

Agree but i will surely give him UAE match if not SA match.

oh on matches i think he deserves to play in all for now.He was very disciplined with his life.

 

[JaDed]

correction :line

 

[Strike Rate]

I'd give him the saffers as well, iirc he took a 6fer on debut against them (test cricket of course, but still notable)

oh on matches i think he deserves to play in all for now.He was very disciplined with his life.

I am not sure if we should pick him against SA or not because Yasir should play that match at every cost and if we drop Sohail than death bowling can become a problem Rahat and Irfan are not good bowler at death and another issue is dropping sohail mean all 3 left arm bowlers

 

[JaDed]

I am not sure if we should pick him against SA or not because Yasir should play that match at every cost and if we drop Sohail than death bowling can become a problem Rahat and Irfan are not good bowler at death and another issue is dropping sohail mean all 3 left arm bowlers

match at eden park imo if Pak goes with 5 bowlers its better with more on pace.

 

[azamcricketer]

Rahat Ali is known to be the swing bowler and not giving him the new ball is not good at all. He is the man who could form a couple with irfan at the start.

 

[gazza619]

He does bowl one or 2 beauties every over. He bowled steady today. Well done to him.

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[yadunoe]

we need to play yasir against sa and sohail is a must for death overs

 

[Strike Rate]

Rahat and Wahab both at the moment are reminding everyone we still have something left at least in our bowling

 

[Mamoon]

Unlucky Ali is pretty lethal when he gets it right, a fact everyone is aware of.

How often he gets it right is another issue.

 

[Hamza_]

Unlucky Ali is pretty lethal when he gets it right, a fact everyone is aware of.

How often he gets it right is another issue.

Rahat is a Quality Bowler and worthy addition to this team. Bouncer to AB and Yorker to miller were unplayable.

 

[Pete Rose]

I rate Rahat higher than Wahab in terms wicket taking ability.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Rahat can swing the ball and pace is not too bad. Hovers around 140 most of the times.

 

[KB]

I think he is a good bowler and he bowled well today. But I think he can be even more threatening if he pitches the ball up further because he is a genuine swing bowler.

 

[angrypathan]

Rated him for a while, doing well

 

[yasir]

When you play quality test players, it makes a difference.

In bowling Rahat was key, that means Pakistsn can put pressure till first 20 overs, that leaks wickets!! - because partnership will not get established. Rahat bowls lot of wicket taking deliveries. Other three were bowling well any way.

Rahat bowls lot of wicket taking deliveries and tight line, hardly any free bees, plus his Yorkers are better than I thought. He can bowl in death too.

Pressure on both end is key. If you can put pressure till 20th over, you are bound to get wickets... Mark my words!!


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[pacesensation]

A request to Rahat ali

Please bowl more yorkers to lefties the one you bowled to Miller!

 

[Fantasy]

I think he is a good bowler and he bowled well today. But I think he can be even more threatening if he pitches the ball up further because he is a genuine swing bowler.

This!!
Even though he bowled brilliantly today but still I think he bowled a tad short....

 

[Itachi]

he is a rubbish bowler.... he is getting lucky only because irfan is able to put pressure at the top. else, he will be worse than vankatesh prasad.

 

[JibranAnsari]

5 wickets at 21 and ER 3.82.

 

[razabbas]

he is a rubbish bowler.... he is getting lucky only because irfan is able to put pressure at the top. else, he will be worse than vankatesh prasad.

Fast bowler always hunt in pair This is how you get wickets pressure exerted from one end and other bowler takes the wicket

Anyways who gives a F*** that he is rubbish or not , as long as he is performing we are happy

 

[osee_bhai]

He's been an ever-improving bowler, has done well at every opportunity. Keeps bowling the right line, can still work on perfectly his length.

Great yorker today too.

 

[Itachi]

Fast bowler always hunt in pair This is how you get wickets pressure exerted from one end and other bowler takes the wicket

Anyways who gives a F*** that he is rubbish or not , as long as he is performing we are happy

difference is, irfan, junaid, wahab, amir doesn't depend on the other to perform. they can turn things on their own. rahat lacks any ability to do so.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Always rated him.

Rahat played 3, won 3. Taken important wickets in every single game.

140kph with swing both ways. What a bowler we have on our hands.

 

[razabbas]

difference is, irfan, junaid, wahab, amir doesn't depend on the other to perform. they can turn things on their own. rahat lacks any ability to do so.

As i said before amir junaid wahab irfan needs support too its quite easy for opposition to see of threatning bowler and score against the bowler on other end.

Rahat was bowling really well thats why he got the reward

 

[Barragan]

He has improved, which is a great sign for us.

Used to be a complete spray gun, but he is starting to get his act together.

Both he and Amir have the potential to be a deadly combo.

 

[shah_1]

Amir and Rahat future combo

Junaid and Wahab will be our supporting bowlers

 

[azamcricketer]

Today his yorker to Miller was the highlight of Pakistan fast bowling

 

[JilaWatan]

Amir and Rahat future combo

Junaid and Wahab will be our supporting bowlers

a full on lefty attack!

 

[Fahdi]

Not giving him the new ball is a mistake imo.

Best new ball bowler in the team.

 

[shah_1]

a full on lefty attack!

So what?

Our right hand bowlers are a disgrace

 

[asyed]

a full on lefty attack!

So what should we do? Stop playing because at the moment we don't have any right arm bowler, huh?

This "a full on lefty attack! " will be in full swing when joined by Junaid and Amir. Haters gonna hate.

 

[farazaidi]

mighty improved bowler. Gotta say I never rated him initially but he proved me wrong in the test matches first and his bowling in the WC has simply been spot on. Forms a great pair with Wahab, fast and accurate seam bowling !

 

[Theo_14]

Was he actually swinging it both ways?

 

[razabbas]

Was he actually swinging it both ways?

YES and that too with a pace of 138 kp/h

 

[Abdullah]

Today was leas swing more nibbling both ways.
Pitches it in the right areas.
Needs to work on his first over which always has 2 very poor balls in it

 

[justarslan]

Rahat is a Quality Bowler and worthy addition to this team. Bouncer to AB and Yorker to miller were unplayable.

That yorker to Miller was Waqareque in his pomp.

 

[justarslan]

Fast bowler always hunt in pair This is how you get wickets pressure exerted from one end and other bowler takes the wicket

Anyways who gives a F*** that he is rubbish or not , as long as he is performing we are happy

What does our neighbors know about fast bowling?

 

[razabbas]

What does our neighbors know about fast bowling?

Ask them I remember in morning when match thread was created a guy named Sachintendulkar78 ( maybe) said Trash this avg Pakistani team and many said that this is a pathetic bowling attack

Pakistan the only team to defend 250 below score twice

 

[Madplayer]

just goes to show how important it is for a fast bowler to concentrate on his bowling in the test format. Rahat used to be a spray gun but after continuous efforts and time spent in the test arena, he can now bowl a decent line and length for a consistent period of time. but i am not sold out on how he would bowl under pressure. would have to wait and see. and yes i agree, he needs to be handed the new ball over sohail khan.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Unlucky Ali is pretty lethal when he gets it right, a fact everyone is aware of.

How often he gets it right is another issue.

Agreed.

To be fair he has improved somewhat from before.

Still a long, long way to go.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Also this shows the bench strenght that Pak bowling has.

No Amir,Asif, Junaid, Ajmal, Hafeez and still we have a quality attack.

There are guys like Usman, Hamza and Sadaf in domestics too.

 

[Theo_14]

YES and that too with a pace of 138 kp/h

Wow. His batting has improved too, notable in test cricket.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Also this shows the bench strenght that Pak bowling has.

No Amir,Asif, Junaid, Ajmal, Hafeez and still we have a quality attack.

There are guys like Usman, Hamza and Sadaf in domestics too.

Sadaf must be given a go after the world cup.

 

[Strike Rate]

Sadaf must be given a go after the world cup.

if bangladesh tour is on than he should be given a chance

 

[Major]

He plays a big part in pakistan wins. His ball seams, which the only bowlers cant do, so after misbah changes his openig bowler, batsmen still has to face another good bowler, and he is done, then wahab is called to finish up the rest

 

[Swing]

Really big problem on PakPassion. Guy plays well for one game and suddenly he is ATG.

Now I'm not saying Rahat Ali is not a good bowler. He is pretty good but his fielding is a big problem and he can barely hold a bat. Not as big a liability in the field as Jamshed but still we should try to hide him in the field.