Imran-Kapil series: Waqar Younis pushes for India-Pakistan bilateral cricket

[MenInG]

Former Pakistan captain and legendary fast bowler Waqar Younish said he believes India and Pakistan will play bilateral series in the near future.

Waqar Younis said the majority of cricket fans from both the countries will be in favour of India-Pakistan bilateral cricket. The pace great added that bilateral series between the two Asian giants will be 'the biggest hit of world cricket'.

India and Pakistan have not played bilateral cricket since January 2013 wherein Pakistan visited their neighbours wherein they played 2 T20Is and 3 ODIs. The two teams have not met in a bilateral Test series since the 2007-08 season.

However, India and Pakistan have been meeting each other at bilateral series with their most recent tie coming at the 2019 World Cup. Efforts to hold bilateral series in the past have not worked in favour, resulting in very limited episodes of one of cricket's greatest rivalries.

"If you go and ask people of both the countries on whether Pakistan and India should play each other, everyone, around 95% of them will agree, that cricket between these two should be played," Waqar Younis said during a chat show QT20 for GloFans.
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"Be it 'Imran-Kapil Series' or 'Independence Series' or whatever name we give to it, I think that it would be the biggest hit of the world.

"I think Pakistan India should play, and should play on a regular basis to avoid depriving cricket lovers of India and Pakistan."

Waqar Younis, meanwhile, is confident that India and Pakistan will play bilateral series but he maintained that he doesn't want to see them battling in a neutral venue.

"I do see Pakistan and India playing bilateral series. I am not sure where though, but I hope it will be either in Pakistan or in India. You don't want to see them playing in some other country because that's where you want to see them. You want to see them playing in their own countries. But I definitely say that in the next few years, I would say, Pakistan India will be playing," Waqar said.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...apil-waqar-younis-proposal-1684354-2020-06-01

 

[moghul]

Great Idea. Imran and Kapil along with sir Richards were the most inspiring cricketers of their era or perhaps ever.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

This happens atleast 6 times a year, and almost every time it is from an ex-Pakistan player. I mean all due respect to Waqar, but seems like he hasn't been catching up on the news for quite some time.

Pakistan has the opportunity to play for a perpetual test trophy with a number of countries. We could have Miandad-Warnapura, Akram-McGrath, Kardar-Hutton. There certainly isn't any shortage of names but this fixation with playing against India has to end. Why this is so hard for so many people to understand is something I can't get my head around.

 

[Mir jibran]

A series with Pakistan is impossible with BJP at the helm of powers
Waqar bhai is day dreaming

 

[Rana]

Quite smart

Let’s see Kapil Dev coming out rejecting this idea now and claiming India don’t need money.

 

[Savak]

Waqar is outdated and living in the past. Indian Cricket is so self sufficient, they don't even need anyone anymore let alone Pakistan. Look at the ex Indian players who have started talking tough against Pakistan in the last few years

 

[Saj]

Won't happen.

Move on.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Time and again someone has to come and ask for it.. sigh..

 

[Swashbuckler]

Will be a dream series if it happens. Chances are very slim, reasons best left to discuss in the other section of PP.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Feel sad for the kids born after circa 2000 who haven't experienced the thrill of a full fledged Indo-Pak series. We used to have so many series in the 2000s when I was growing up, with added advantage of lots of free time and friends in school and neighborhood to follow the matches together. But this bilateral contest has always been like that, we didn't play in the 60s, until late 70s because of tension, mainly the 2 bitterly fought wars, that was a gap of almost 2 decades. Hope this wait isn't that long.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Would be great to see Imran-Kapil or Abbas-Gavaskar. But under the current circumstances it won't happen.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Relationship between the two countries are an all-time low as both governments aren’t on speaking terms. Under this circumstances, it would be nothing short of miracle if bi-laterals series take place.
Imran-Kapil or Any other name would be fine as long as it’s not ‘Kitply’ or ‘Cool n Cool’

 

[Bhaijaan]

That's 2 of the 3 greatest pure ARs (1. Kapil 2. Botham 3 Imran) ever to play the game right there. It would be a huge honour to Kapil and Imran who were among the most iconic cricketers of their era,

 

[Majid Khan]

I would go for something more modern like Hafeez-Kohli series , honouring the two batting maestros of the sub continent.

 

[liam26]

BCCI is least interested.

 

[CanadianG00se]

That's 2 of the 3 greatest pure ARs (1. Kapil 2. Botham 3 Imran) ever to play the game right there. It would be a huge honour to Kapil and Imran who were among the most iconic cricketers of their era,

You’re forgetting Richard Hadlee.

 

[Bhaijaan]

You’re forgetting Richard Hadlee.

A good all rounder but not a pure all rounder. He could bat a bit just like Sobers could bowl a bit.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

I would go for something more modern like Hafeez-Kohli series , honouring the two batting maestros of the sub continent.

Let’s keep it simple with Kapil-Imran Cup

I would also like to see Pakistan-England matches being renamed.

 

[MenInG]

Waqar is outdated and living in the past. Indian Cricket is so self sufficient, they don't even need anyone anymore let alone Pakistan. Look at the ex Indian players who have started talking tough against Pakistan in the last few years

In a show where he is probably interacting with Indian fans, he needs to say things like these.

 

[Kroll]

Wish Waqar would just shut up and the rest who keep harping about the same. He's just making a laughing stock out of himself. Dude must be really thick if he hasn't realised India fully mixes politics into its sports.

 

[Hasan123]

Seen so called fans mock big 3 for wanting to play for financial reasons, PCB have been desperate to play India for a while. I wonder what the reasons are for that. Also seen our ex players calling for us to play India a lot as well.

Sick of our fans acting like big 3 are only financially incentivised. At least big 3 are well run as well as looking after themselves financially.

 

[saeed5646]

Seen so called fans mock big 3 for wanting to play for financial reasons, PCB have been desperate to play India for a while. I wonder what the reasons are for that. Also seen our ex players calling for us to play India a lot as well.

Sick of our fans acting like big 3 are only financially incentivised. At least big 3 are well run as well as looking after themselves financially.

Wth did i just read ..waqar younis is just giving his opinion what it has to do with pcb

 

[Zaz]

Its high time pakistani cricketers stop talking about wanting to play india when its not going to happen

They are embarrassing themselves and their country

I thought waqar was more intelligent than that

 

[ChTab]

Why Pakistani don't have series with other countries like border-gavaskar trophy or warne-murali trophy?

 

[Nasty Naz]

BCCI is least interested.

I'd highly doubt their board isn't interested in making a lot of money.

It's not the board that's the problem, it's the government backing it. A Pakistan-India series won't happen while Modi is in charge.

 

[Swashbuckler]

I'd highly doubt their board isn't interested in making a lot of money.

It's not the board that's the problem, it's the government backing it. A Pakistan-India series won't happen while Modi is in charge.

Correct, corrupt and greedy BCCI officials will never let go off the opportunity to make more money, Indo-Pak bilaterals doesn't matter how the matches go or how many stars are there, will always be the number one cash cow in the world of cricket.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Correct, corrupt and greedy BCCI officials will never let go off the opportunity to make more money, Indo-Pak bilaterals doesn't matter how the matches go or how many stars are there, will always be the number one cash cow in the world of cricket.

You mean number 2. The number 1 cash cow in the world of cricket is IPL.

 

[Swashbuckler]

You mean number 2. The number 1 cash cow in the world of cricket is IPL.

Yeah, should have worded differently, number one in the world of international cricket.

 

[cricketjoshila]

More chances of a bilateral happening than a Pakistani getting an Ipl contract.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You mean number 2. The number 1 cash cow in the world of cricket is IPL.

Yeah, should have worded differently, number one in the world of international cricket.

You have no idea how BCCI is paid the broadcast money. Bcci doesn't sell rights per series.

Its on per match basis on pro rata basis.. Not on opposition basis.

All Bcci rights are already sold and any extra matches with any team, be it pakistan or SA or Aus or NZ.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

More chances of a bilateral happening than a Pakistani getting an Ipl contract.

I would disagree tbh, I think a Pakistani getting an IPL contract would be a way to test the waters before a bilateral series.

(Though neither will ever happen, but in the hypothetical that one does, the IPL contract is more likely)

 

[Thunderbolt14]

You have no idea how BCCI is paid the broadcast money. Bcci doesn't sell rights per series.

Its on per match basis on pro rata basis.. Not on opposition basis.

All Bcci rights are already sold and any extra matches with any team, be it pakistan or SA or Aus or NZ.

Opposition is factored into account when the broadcast deal is created. Star Sports would see more money in a Pakistan series for example compared to a Bangladesh series, and would increase the size of their broadcast deal.

You are right, we don’t know the breakdown. But it is no doubt a large amount

 

[sweep_shot]

Not a bad name for the series. However, any series between these two nations is unlikely to happen soon.

 

[Mueez]

Amir would definitely get an IPL contract if he wasn’t a Pakistani.

Same goes for Babar Azam, I guess.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Amir would definitely get an IPL contract if he wasn’t a Pakistani.

Same goes for Babar Azam, I guess.

Don’t forget Shaheen and Shadab.

Amir would be a contender for one of the highest contracts imo, he has quite a cult following in India for CT17 as well as Asia Cup 16

 

[Markhor]

It's that time of month again. This question has been asked to death.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You mean number 2. The number 1 cash cow in the world of cricket is IPL.

Opposition is factored into account when the broadcast deal is created. Star Sports would see more money in a Pakistan series for example compared to a Bangladesh series, and would increase the size of their broadcast deal.

You are right, we don’t know the breakdown. But it is no doubt a large amount

Star Sports will pay BCCI INR 60.1cr for each match. The opposition may be anyone.But BCCI hardly hosts low key series except BD once in 5 years.

So it wont matter if Pakistan comes or Australia or SA or Eng etc etc.

BCCIs deal is fixed, they get the money as long as the matches are played.

Thats why Bcci isnt bothered about hosting Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You mean number 2. The number 1 cash cow in the world of cricket is IPL.

I would disagree tbh, I think a Pakistani getting an IPL contract would be a way to test the waters before a bilateral series.

(Though neither will ever happen, but in the hypothetical that one does, the IPL contract is more likely)

A IPL contract means agreement of Govt. BCCI and the IPL owning team. No IPL team may be ready to pay a Pakistani, knowing tommorow he may be shooting off his mouth on Kashmir and media will be fillled with images of that player wearing the IPL team jersey with the comments. Who will take the risk of that negative publicity?

 

[Mueez]

Don’t forget Shaheen and Shadab.

Amir would be a contender for one of the highest contracts imo, he has quite a cult following in India for CT17 as well as Asia Cup 16

Yes I agree Shaheen and Shadab (maybe even Wahab) would get it too.

 

[shamaan]

Yes I agree Shaheen and Shadab (maybe even Wahab) would get it too.

What about imad waseem as an all rounder or one of the young ones naseem or husnain ?

 

[Mueez]

What about imad waseem as an all rounder or one of the young ones naseem or husnain ?

Imad Wasim would’ve gotten one when he was #1 T20 bowler. Naseem would probably get one too. Husnain got picked by Trinidad Knight Riders which is owned by SRK, so yeah he could’ve been in the IPL scene too.

The problem is our players are quite good in T20s: after all we were in top 3 for quite a few years. And the bowling standard in the IPL could change drastically if Pakistani bowlers join the league.

However we will never be able to see our players in IPL...

 

[Ami]

It wont happen cos theyd just bicker on the format of the name?
Why cant it be Kapil - Imran trophy?...lol

 

[shamaan]

Imad Wasim would’ve gotten one when he was #1 T20 bowler. Naseem would probably get one too. Husnain got picked by Trinidad Knight Riders which is owned by SRK, so yeah he could’ve been in the IPL scene too.

The problem is our players are quite good in T20s: after all we were in top 3 for quite a few years. And the bowling standard in the IPL could change drastically if Pakistani bowlers join the league.

However we will never be able to see our players in IPL...

Agreed the standard of bowling would make IPL more competitive and the scores would be lower.

 

[NishanKonar]

Don’t forget Shaheen and Shadab.

Amir would be a contender for one of the highest contracts imo, he has quite a cult following in India for CT17 as well as Asia Cup 16

Not really. Amir is more well known in India for wrong reasons. Plus its highly unlikely BCCI will allow fixing accused in IPL. Given they banned Sreesanth for life

Babar & Shaheen Afridi will be most likely picks. Babar has become pretty well known for his prolofic run scoring.

 

[shamaan]

Not really. Amir is more well known in India for wrong reasons. Plus its highly unlikely BCCI will allow fixing accused in IPL. Given they banned Sreesanth for life

Babar & Shaheen Afridi will be most likely picks. Babar has become pretty well known for his prolofic run scoring.

Of course amir will get picked

 

[cricketjoshila]

You mean number 2. The number 1 cash cow in the world of cricket is IPL.

Of course amir will get picked

Fixers are not allowed in bcci tournaments.

 

[shamaan]

Fixers are not allowed in bcci tournaments.

Were does it say that ?

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Really? Last I checked Dhoni’s still playing

 

[MenInG]

Fixers are not allowed in bcci tournaments.

Cleared by ICC, PCB - think of another insult please.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Fixers are not allowed in bcci tournaments.

But cheaters are? I understand that Steven Smith is captaining an IPL side this year and Warner's past is forgiven because he danced to a few Bollywood songs on tiktok.

The selective morality play from joshila as per usual, is precious

 

[Mesozoic]

Really? Last I checked Dhoni’s still playing

When did Dhoni fix ?

 

[Mesozoic]

But cheaters are? I understand that Steven Smith is captaining an IPL side this year and Warner's past is forgiven because he danced to a few Bollywood songs on tiktok.

The selective morality play from joshila as per usual, is precious

Spot fixing >>>>>>>>>>>> Ball tampering

 

[big_gamer007]

But cheaters are? I understand that Steven Smith is captaining an IPL side this year and Warner's past is forgiven because he danced to a few Bollywood songs on tiktok.

The selective morality play from joshila as per usual, is precious

Steve Smith/Warner were made a scapegoat. Because of social media driven agenda the guy along with Warner were punished really harshly. Ball tampering has been going on in cricket since 70's. The guys should have been handed 3-5 games ban, not a year ban.

It was a media trial which resulted in their bans. In today's world where every Tom dick and harry has an opinion due to social media the chaps got a hard stick.

Fixing on the other hand is actually a crime. You can't compare the two.

It's preposterous to see people comparing the two, it's like comparing someone who stole a piece of bread to someone who committed mass murders.

 

[big_gamer007]

Series won't happen in next decade. Even if BJP is voted out of power in 2024, it will take another 5 years for their policies to be reversed.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

When did Dhoni fix ?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Cleared by ICC, PCB - think of another insult please.

IPL is run by Bcci, not ICC or PCB.

 

[Mueez]

IPL is run by Bcci, not ICC or PCB.

Deep down you know if Amir wasn’t Pakistani he would get one of the most expensive IPL contracts

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Deep down you know if Amir wasn’t Pakistani he would get one of the most expensive IPL contracts

Tbh he could easily bag a better contract than Cummins. He’s such a better T20 bowler.

And purely in terms of the Indians he’s dismissed in limited overs on the big stage, he probably has the most teka of any bowler in the world right now

 

[Mueez]

Tbh he could easily bag a better contract than Cummins. He’s such a better T20 bowler.

And purely in terms of the Indians he’s dismissed in limited overs on the big stage, he probably has the most teka of any bowler in the world right now

Exactly. Every opposition is wary of Amir when he is bowling.

 

[sweep_shot]

Amir is much better than Cummins in LOI. Cummins is more of a Test specialist.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Deep down you know if Amir wasn’t Pakistani he would get one of the most expensive IPL contracts

He will not get a IPL contract.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

He will not get a IPL contract.

It’s a hypothetical. If he did get a contract, it would be one of the biggest contracts around.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Tbh he could easily bag a better contract than Cummins. He’s such a better T20 bowler.

And purely in terms of the Indians he’s dismissed in limited overs on the big stage, he probably has the most teka of any bowler in the world right now

Lol.

Cummins has a better avg and econ in T20Is than Amir.

Amir wont get anywhere near the IPL. Not even close.

 

[Kroll]

Lol.

Cummins has a better avg and econ in T20Is than Amir.

Amir wont get anywhere near the IPL. Not even close.

Not true, both are similar since Amir's comeback.

Amir: 30 matches, 30 wkts, avg - 21.3
Cummins: 13 matches, 13 wkts, avg - 21.3

 

[Thunderbolt14]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] IPL is also not just about stats but brands. You’re telling me the guy who demolished Sharma, Dhawan, Kohli (twice) in the CT 17 final as well as in the Asia Cup 2016 game would fail to get a contract?

Any sane franchise owner would put him first on the list.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

The biggest way to develop an IPL brand to get selected is performing against India.

 

[Kroll]

Not true, both are similar since Amir's comeback.

Amir: 36 matches, 36 wkts, avg - 21.3
Cummins: 13 matyches, 13 wkts, avg - 21.3

Just to add:

Amir econ: 6.93
Cummins econ: 7.11

I'm not sure where Cummins better avg and econ is coming from?

 

[Abdullah719]

Just to add:

Amir econ: 6.93
Cummins econ: 7.11

I'm not sure where Cummins better avg and econ is coming from?

The discussion should be about T20s, not T20Is anyway since IPL isn't international cricket.

Amir: avg 20.93, econ 6.93, sr 18.1
Cummins: avg 24.18, econ 7.73, sr 18.7

 

[NishanKonar]

Problem with Amir is not about quality but his involvement in fixing

In Pakistan there is general sentiment in bringing back fixing accused players. Latest being Sharjeel. In India they never get selected again. Sreesanth got cleared by Supreme Court but never allowed by BCCI to play in IPL

Again its not abt quality of Amir but rather BCCI's no tolerance policy on fixing. If they allow Amir - they will have to allow Sreesanth

 

[therealAB]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] IPL is also not just about stats but brands. You’re telling me the guy who demolished Sharma, Dhawan, Kohli (twice) in the CT 17 final as well as in the Asia Cup 2016 game would fail to get a contract?

Any sane franchise owner would put him first on the list.

Kohli, Warner etc would be higher

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Kohli, Warner etc would be higher

Yeah but no doubt “one of the biggest”

 

[NishanKonar]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] IPL is also not just about stats but brands. You’re telling me the guy who demolished Sharma, Dhawan, Kohli (twice) in the CT 17 final as well as in the Asia Cup 2016 game would fail to get a contract?

Any sane franchise owner would put him first on the list.

By this logic Hasan Ali wud be hottest pick in IPL based on CT17 performances !!!

 

[Thunderbolt14]

By this logic Hasan Ali wud be hottest pick in IPL based on CT17 performances !!!

Hasan Ali didn’t demolish Kohli Dhawan and Rohit.

It’s not just about international performances, it’s about performances against Indians, and the best Indians at that and in an ICC final.

Amir demolished them twice. Asia Cup T20 2016 as well.

 

[NishanKonar]

Hasan Ali didn’t demolish Kohli Dhawan and Rohit.

It’s not just about international performances, it’s about performances against Indians, and the best Indians at that and in an ICC final.

Amir demolished them twice. Asia Cup T20 2016 as well.

Well those were 3 years back. The top players of CT17 have regressed badly since then - Fakhar , Hasan , Sarfraz , Azhar & even Amir to some extent. Dont think IPL teams wud decide to buy players based on what happened 3-4 years back. In fact they are known to be very ruthless & drop players after 1 off season

Anyways we are deviating from topic. Amir wud gave got picked if not for fixing charges. BCCI wud end up in big pickle if they select Amir after tough stance taken on Sreesanth for similar offence

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Well those were 3 years back. The top players of CT17 have regressed badly since then - Fakhar , Hasan , Sarfraz , Azhar & even Amir to some extent. Dont think IPL teams wud decide to buy players based on what happened 3-4 years back. In fact they are known to be very ruthless & drop players after 1 off season

Anyways we are deviating from topic. Amir wud gave got picked if not for fixing charges. BCCI wud end up in big pickle if they select Amir after tough stance taken on Sreesanth for similar offence

Bro IPL would have bought them then is what I’m saying

 

[CanadianG00se]

Problem with Amir is not about quality but his involvement in fixing

In Pakistan there is general sentiment in bringing back fixing accused players. Latest being Sharjeel. In India they never get selected again. Sreesanth got cleared by Supreme Court but never allowed by BCCI to play in IPL

Again its not abt quality of Amir but rather BCCI's no tolerance policy on fixing. If they allow Amir - they will have to allow Sreesanth

Well put.

No doubt Amir is pretty good bowler and on his day could rip-apart any batting line up. But given his past conviction in fixing a game, he would find it hard to please BCCI( given if Pakistani cricketers are allowed).

Theoretically, Azam, Naseem, S Afridi, etc would fetch pretty good money at auction.