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Imran Khan and Bushra Bibi convicted in £190m Al-Qadir Trust case [Update@ Post#68]

Do you believe that Imran Khan committed a crime in the Al Qadir University case?

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So total how many years jail time now for Khan with the addition of 14 years? Unless some miracle happens, I don't see him coming out of his cell alive again. Feel for his supporters. Politics in Pakistan is real bad and army seems to be the ultimate don.
 
Rajdeep said:
So total how many years jail time now for Khan with the addition of 14 years? Unless some miracle happens, I don't see him coming out of his cell alive again. Feel for his supporters. Politics in Pakistan is real bad and army seems to be the ultimate don.
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Lol, he will be out sooner than you think. This system is trying it's best to get him out trying to make him accept a 'deal', but he is not interested in deal. When this case goes to higher court it will be blown away unless they somehow can get their own judges there as well. Intersting times ahead.
 
IAJ said:
Lol, he will be out sooner than you think. This system is trying it's best to get him out trying to make him accept a 'deal', but he is not interested in deal. When this case goes to higher court it will be blown away unless they somehow can get their own judges there as well. Intersting times ahead.
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This is an attempt to blackmail IK but PK people have gone way past the understanding that the establishment think we have. Another black day for PK.
 
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Rajdeep said:
So total how many years jail time now for Khan with the addition of 14 years? Unless some miracle happens, I don't see him coming out of his cell alive again. Feel for his supporters. Politics in Pakistan is real bad and army seems to be the ultimate don.
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He may or may not. But sooner or later this Mafia will be smashed. The establishment have been exposed as money grabbing,evil and immoral. They have betrayed PK and sooner or later, the total humiliation will come for them.
 
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Imran Khan has been sentenced to 14 years in prison, which is a significant development. However, it’s crucial to stay alert and prepared for any potential unrest or disturbances, similar to the chaos and violence that broke out on 9th May by the traitors and terrorists
 
emranabbas said:
Imran Khan has been sentenced to 14 years in prison, which is a significant development. However, it’s crucial to stay alert and prepared for any potential unrest or disturbances, similar to the chaos and violence that broke out on 9th May by the traitors and terrorists
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Announced by toutes before the judge was given the decision. That is an indictment of the people that run PK and the shameless losers that support them. Muneer better pray that he stays in power or he will have to hide in basement like Isa and NS. You guys maybe thicker than whale omelettes but the PK people have seen through it.
 
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Very sad to see. Imran is not without his faults and he has made many mistakes but he does not deserve this treatment.

He has achieved things and lived a life most people cannot dream of and if they can dream, they don’t have the courage to do so.

Imran has the heart of a lion and if this is how it ends for him then so be it because this is what God chose for him. Imran should die at peace knowing that he did whatever he could in his capacity to make a difference.
 
Mamoon said:
Very sad to see. Imran is not without his faults and he has made many mistakes but he does not deserve this treatment.

He has achieved things and lived a life most people cannot dream of and if they can dream, they don’t have the courage to do so.

Imran has the heart of a lion and if this is how it ends for him then so be it because this is what God chose for him. Imran should die at peace knowing that he did whatever he could in his capacity to make a difference.
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IK is innocent and this case has no legs. Anyone that has followed this case knows that this has even less legs than all the other crap they throw at him. If there was a case then it should be made on Malik Riaz and the Sharifs. No money was stolen and IK and his wife didn't benefit to the tune of even a penny.
IK may have made mistakes but compared to the murder and kidnappings, the thuggery and destruction and total annihilation of the Constitution and Sc, those mistakes are miniscule.

Muneera will have to hide if he is out of power. Isa is quivering like a **** *** in London, and the same will happen to all these contemporary "gods".
 
Just to add context of why I said the case should have been against Malik R and The Sharifs. Just before the Panama scandal (I think) MR paid double the market rate to babloo to buy some flats in London, this led to an NCA investigation. The NCA made a civil settlement with MR and the money was sent back to PK. IK put that money in the SC and the money earnt 12bn in interest.
 
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Bewal Express said:
IK is innocent and this case has no legs. Anyone that has followed this case knows that this has even less legs than all the other crap they throw at him. If there was a case then it should be made on Malik Riaz and the Sharifs. No money was stolen and IK and his wife didn't benefit to the tune of even a penny.
IK may have made mistakes but compared to the murder and kidnappings, the thuggery and destruction and total annihilation of the Constitution and Sc, those mistakes are miniscule.

Muneera will have to hide if he is out of power. Isa is quivering like a **** *** in London, and the same will happen to all these contemporary "gods".
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If Imran doesn't get justice in this world, he will get it in the hereafter, and all those who have wronged him for personal gains will face the consequences lest they repent while they are still breathing. Only the blessed get a chance to repent and make wrongs right while they are alive. This mercy is not bestowed on most people.
 
Mamoon said:
Very sad to see. Imran is not without his faults and he has made many mistakes but he does not deserve this treatment.

He has achieved things and lived a life most people cannot dream of and if they can dream, they don’t have the courage to do so.

Imran has the heart of a lion and if this is how it ends for him then so be it because this is what God chose for him. Imran should die at peace knowing that he did whatever he could in his capacity to make a difference.
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At the end of the day, he was guilty in this case.

I called it that there was leverage against him and that leverage was this case. He was at fault, should not had got involved. The established kept this case and knew it will come handy on a rainy day.

You cant say he didnt deserve punishment, he cross alot of lines and committed crime. His cricket acheivement should be celebrated, but his PMship and his politics is not something to celebrate as he allowed himself to become a tool for the establishment. He did their bidding and rigged an election in his favor. He should had stayed out of politics.

Point is no case was made up, every case was a valid case that even the high court or supreme court can do anything.

The only criticism that is valid is that the other politicians should also be punished for their crimes, be it Zardari and Nawaz Shareef and the Generals. But anyone who commits crime, you cant give them leverage.

At the end of the day, whichever side you are on, Imran, Zardari, and Nawaz are at fault for giving too much power to the establishment. Only difference is Zardari learned this early on that if you cant beat them, might aswell gain power to control them and than get your way. PML Q learned just join them and be used as a tool. What PTI did was exactly what PML Q. Imran allowed them to use him and today he has all valid cases against him.


The issue with his fans is they deny Ik's wrong doing but what everyone else to be charged. They are willing to give a free hand to him. How can you give him a free hand in the AL Qadir case.

Instead of crying for a guilty mans inncense why not ask for Malik Riaz to be punished for the same crime aswell
 
Major said:
At the end of the day, he was guilty in this case.

I called it that there was leverage against him and that leverage was this case. He was at fault, should not had got involved. The established kept this case and knew it will come handy on a rainy day.

You cant say he didnt deserve punishment, he cross alot of lines and committed crime. His cricket acheivement should be celebrated, but his PMship and his politics is not something to celebrate as he allowed himself to become a tool for the establishment. He did their bidding and rigged an election in his favor. He should had stayed out of politics.

Point is no case was made up, every case was a valid case that even the high court or supreme court can do anything.

The only criticism that is valid is that the other politicians should also be punished for their crimes, be it Zardari and Nawaz Shareef and the Generals. But anyone who commits crime, you cant give them leverage.

At the end of the day, whichever side you are on, Imran, Zardari, and Nawaz are at fault for giving too much power to the establishment. Only difference is Zardari learned this early on that if you cant beat them, might aswell gain power to control them and than get your way. PML Q learned just join them and be used as a tool. What PTI did was exactly what PML Q. Imran allowed them to use him and today he has all valid cases against him.


The issue with his fans is they deny Ik's wrong doing but what everyone else to be charged. They are willing to give a free hand to him. How can you give him a free hand in the AL Qadir case.

Instead of crying for a guilty mans inncense why not ask for Malik Riaz to be punished for the same crime aswell
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So far you have claimed that he was guilty of the iddat case and that was thrown out, you claimed that he was guilty in the Toshakhana case and the judge ran and the verdict was suspended in the IHC, you claimed he was guilty of the Cypher case and that lasted all of a few days and was also suspended and now you have jumped on this band wagon because Geo and others have groomed you. So What was he guilty of? What is the case? Explain what this case is? The judgement was released yesterday by the journalists and the judge hadn't even seen it. So who wrote the judgment? What has IK gained on a personal level? What happened to the money and whk did he it belong to? I suggest that you watch Noorani VLog to understand the case. If you do then you will see that you will once again have egg on your face.
 
Major said:
At the end of the day, he was guilty in this case.

I called it that there was leverage against him and that leverage was this case. He was at fault, should not had got involved. The established kept this case and knew it will come handy on a rainy day.

You cant say he didnt deserve punishment, he cross alot of lines and committed crime. His cricket acheivement should be celebrated, but his PMship and his politics is not something to celebrate as he allowed himself to become a tool for the establishment. He did their bidding and rigged an election in his favor. He should had stayed out of politics.

Point is no case was made up, every case was a valid case that even the high court or supreme court can do anything.

The only criticism that is valid is that the other politicians should also be punished for their crimes, be it Zardari and Nawaz Shareef and the Generals. But anyone who commits crime, you cant give them leverage.

At the end of the day, whichever side you are on, Imran, Zardari, and Nawaz are at fault for giving too much power to the establishment. Only difference is Zardari learned this early on that if you cant beat them, might aswell gain power to control them and than get your way. PML Q learned just join them and be used as a tool. What PTI did was exactly what PML Q. Imran allowed them to use him and today he has all valid cases against him.


The issue with his fans is they deny Ik's wrong doing but what everyone else to be charged. They are willing to give a free hand to him. How can you give him a free hand in the AL Qadir case.

Instead of crying for a guilty mans inncense why not ask for Malik Riaz to be punished for the same crime aswell
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AZ does not control anything. He destroyed the PPP and had it nationalised along with Billo. Today Billo has no more credibility than Diesel or anyone else sitting in the laps.
 
emranabbas said:
Imran Khan has been sentenced to 14 years in prison, which is a significant development. However, it’s crucial to stay alert and prepared for any potential unrest or disturbances, similar to the chaos and violence that broke out on 9th May by the traitors and terrorists
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what about those here on PP that were egging on the marchers, the same supporters of evil?
 
Mamoon said:
If Imran doesn't get justice in this world, he will get it in the hereafter, and all those who have wronged him for personal gains will face the consequences lest they repent while they are still breathing. Only the blessed get a chance to repent and make wrongs right while they are alive. This mercy is not bestowed on most people.
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Those people who schedule revenge for the afterlife are category A pussycats who don't deserve an afterlife in the first place.
 
Aleema Khan laments over 190m pound case verdict

Aleema Khan on Friday lamented over the accountability court’s decision convicting Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) founder Imran Khan and his wife Bushra Bibi in 190 million pound case.

Talking to media outside the Adiala Jail, the former prime minister’s sister said she was already expecting such verdict from court.

She recalled that Imran Khan was awarded such sentence thrice in the past but all were suspended by the high court.

“I feel sorry for the judge who has announced the verdict as he might have done this for promotion or due to pressure,” she said.
Aleema said Al-Qadir University was a dream of the PTI founder but he had been punished for that.

“We will challenge this verdict in high court,” she announced while revealing that Khan had told them to stay strong in this phase.

“Imran Khan has said that punishment and reward are not in the hands of these people,” Aleema added.



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Aleema Khan laments over 190m pound case verdict

Aleema Khan laments over 190m pound case verdict
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Bewal Express said:
So far you have claimed that he was guilty of the iddat case and that was thrown out, you claimed that he was guilty in the Toshakhana case and the judge ran and the verdict was suspended in the IHC, you claimed he was guilty of the Cypher case and that lasted all of a few days and was also suspended and now you have jumped on this band wagon because Geo and others have groomed you. So What was he guilty of? What is the case? Explain what this case is? The judgement was released yesterday by the journalists and the judge hadn't even seen it. So who wrote the judgment? What has IK gained on a personal level? What happened to the money and whk did he it belong to? I suggest that you watch Noorani VLog to understand the case. If you do then you will see that you will once again have egg on your face.
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He was guilty here, whether you accept it or not is up to you.

I called it last year that this is the case he will get caught in, and you said no this is a nothing case. He as a PM transferred money back to the criminal.

Instead of arguing about Imran, its better to argue that Malik should also be arrested
 
emranabbas said:
Imran Khan has been sentenced to 14 years in prison, which is a significant development. However, it’s crucial to stay alert and prepared for any potential unrest or disturbances, similar to the chaos and violence that broke out on 9th May by the traitors and terrorists
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lol nothing is going to happen. Their fans are sher on social media. They cant do anything.

I was reminded by them now its social media ka dou so PTI fans will bring havoc, well. Nothing is gonna happen.
 
Major said:
lol nothing is going to happen. Their fans are sher on social media. They cant do anything.

I was reminded by them now its social media ka dou so PTI fans will bring havoc, well. Nothing is gonna happen.
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What are they planning to do? hack Pakistani government websites and the social media profiles of government and army staff?

They can only focus on social media because most of them don't even reside in Pakistan. It's completely unfair that Pakistani citizens like you, who actually live in the country have equal say to those who fled to foreign countries and those who have clearly shown where their priorities lie with foreign countries

The Pakistani government should consider revoking the citizenship of individuals who have permanently left the country or those who were not born in Pakistan and are living abroad permanently.
 
Major said:
He was guilty here, whether you accept it or not is up to you.

I called it last year that this is the case he will get caught in, and you said no this is a nothing case. He as a PM transferred money back to the criminal.

Instead of arguing about Imran, its better to argue that Malik should also be arrested
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But guilty of what? You need to actually explain. The judge used by Muneer was more compromised than Isa and was banned by the SC in 2004 and this decision wasn't even written by him. The Generals shared the judgment with the journalists yesterday and the judge had no say. So stop hiding and explain why such an important judgement used a compromised judge and needs the Expansion of the IHC to stop it being overturned.
 
emranabbas said:
What are they planning to do? hack Pakistani government websites and the social media profiles of government and army staff?

They can only focus on social media because most of them don't even reside in Pakistan. It's completely unfair that Pakistani citizens like you, who actually live in the country have equal say to those who fled to foreign countries and those who have clearly shown where their priorities lie with foreign countries

The Pakistani government should consider revoking the citizenship of individuals who have permanently left the country or those who were not born in Pakistan and are living abroad permanently.
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You do know that PK is under millitary rule, the constitution has been binned, people have been killed in cold blood and many are still missing

So the guy that doesn't understand what £6bn entails in tv contract wants the citizenship of millions of PKs to be revoked.
 
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Major said:
lol nothing is going to happen. Their fans are sher on social media. They cant do anything.

I was reminded by them now its social media ka dou so PTI fans will bring havoc, well. Nothing is gonna happen.
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Except we did and we had 100s murdered in cold blood. The racist diatribe against pathans that followed and the failure of your ilk to even condemn this murder.
 
The real case which Muneera didn't face is why NS forced MR to buy a property worth 9bn for 18bn. Was it MR paying a bribe? Was NS blackmailing him to avoid the cases stemming from the Panama papers and his desperate attempt to hide them.
@Major
Once again what is the case? How did IK benefit from this on any personal level? Where has Bushra Bibi jailed for cass that has nothing to do with her?
 
emranabbas said:
What are they planning to do? hack Pakistani government websites and the social media profiles of government and army staff?

They can only focus on social media because most of them don't even reside in Pakistan. It's completely unfair that Pakistani citizens like you, who actually live in the country have equal say to those who fled to foreign countries and those who have clearly shown where their priorities lie with foreign countries

The Pakistani government should consider revoking the citizenship of individuals who have permanently left the country or those who were not born in Pakistan and are living abroad permanently.
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its all thand program by their supporters.

alot have realized that army made the PTI so their is no point crying about what PMLN and PPP are doing with PTI.

Imran just doesnt know politics.

And this case is a valid case, whether their fans like it or not. But they need to show that they are big support and come out. I told these people here that when Bhutto can be hanged, Imran is nothing. But i was told by the same very posters that if anything happens to Imran, or even if he is placed in Jail, the people will come out because now we have social media.

and now look. Gets a verdict and everyone is quiet.
 
Bewal Express said:
But guilty of what? You need to actually explain. The judge used by Muneer was more compromised than Isa and was banned by the SC in 2004 and this decision wasn't even written by him. The Generals shared the judgment with the journalists yesterday and the judge had no say. So stop hiding and explain why such an important judgement used a compromised judge and needs the Expansion of the IHC to stop it being overturned.
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not one post you have discussed on facts. Its all the usual conspiracies.


The money that Imran recieved from the UK govt, he deposited back into the account of Malik Riaz. That is the stupidiest thing one can do. Dawn did an article on this I think where they exposed this dumb move. It was than i shared one such article here that this would be the case that will drag Imran to jail. You said back than no its a nothing case yaye woh.

At the end wohi case aya.
 
Major said:
At the end of the day, he was guilty in this case.

I called it that there was leverage against him and that leverage was this case. He was at fault, should not had got involved. The established kept this case and knew it will come handy on a rainy day.

You cant say he didnt deserve punishment, he cross alot of lines and committed crime. His cricket acheivement should be celebrated, but his PMship and his politics is not something to celebrate as he allowed himself to become a tool for the establishment. He did their bidding and rigged an election in his favor. He should had stayed out of politics.

Point is no case was made up, every case was a valid case that even the high court or supreme court can do anything.

The only criticism that is valid is that the other politicians should also be punished for their crimes, be it Zardari and Nawaz Shareef and the Generals. But anyone who commits crime, you cant give them leverage.

At the end of the day, whichever side you are on, Imran, Zardari, and Nawaz are at fault for giving too much power to the establishment. Only difference is Zardari learned this early on that if you cant beat them, might aswell gain power to control them and than get your way. PML Q learned just join them and be used as a tool. What PTI did was exactly what PML Q. Imran allowed them to use him and today he has all valid cases against him.


The issue with his fans is they deny Ik's wrong doing but what everyone else to be charged. They are willing to give a free hand to him. How can you give him a free hand in the AL Qadir case.

Instead of crying for a guilty mans inncense why not ask for Malik Riaz to be punished for the same crime aswell
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Mate I respect you as a poster on topics other than Imran Khan. In here as well I'm here to argue the facts of the case which seems to be disinformation and presented inaccurately.

Let me explain this in a gist and in simple terms for a layman. The argument from prosecution (Govt) in here is that money seized in UK by NCA of Malik Riaz was to be returned into Pakistan Govt treasury and not into Supreme Court account.

The above statement in itself is false, do you know that? NCA is an agency that investigates for financial crime and forensics. They simply determine if money used is ill-gotten or not. If its established that money is not from legitimate sources then the transaction is reversed and money is returned to the original owner in their respective local country account.

The investigation from NCA did prove that money is illegitimate but that does not mean that money belongs to Pakistan Government rather than Malik Riaz. The money deemed to be of Malik Riaz and was supposed to be returned to him by NCA after unfreezing the respective accounts. Given that Malik Riaz in Pakistan already had a huge penalty in other case that money with agreement from Malik Riaz was then used to partially settle that penalty.

The entire argument from Govt stating that this money belonged to Pakistan treasury is completely non-sense. Our judicial system is such a joke that even jungle will have better justice system in there now.
 
Major said:
not one post you have discussed on facts. Its all the usual conspiracies.


The money that Imran recieved from the UK govt, he deposited back into the account of Malik Riaz. That is the stupidiest thing one can do. Dawn did an article on this I think where they exposed this dumb move. It was than i shared one such article here that this would be the case that will drag Imran to jail. You said back than no its a nothing case yaye woh.

At the end wohi case aya.
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Major sahib you have tendency to believe what you are told and jump in with both feet and then realise the water is only inches deep. You have backed Every decision of these thugs but at the 1st proper look, it's suspended and overturned. Tosha, Iddat and Cypher to name 3. You are desperate for him to be labelled as corrupt but no one is buying it. Even the Generals can't find anything and they are just desperate. No one in history has faced as many cases as IK but not a single conviction that survives any decent Judges oversight.

Back to this

OK. So the money that was deposited in the SC belonged to whom? If this money was sent by one British govt to the PK govt then you could claim it was corruption. But you don't do any research and wait for newspaper to tell you, newspaper that aren't free and haven't been since 2022. So do some research and then come back to me. Watch the Noorani video, who like you had originally been duped by the mafia Generals. Watch it and let's see you respond. And don't run off because you will have an answer
 
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Mate I respect you as a poster on topics other than Imran Khan. In here as well I'm here to argue the facts of the case which seems to be disinformation and presented inaccurately.

Let me explain this in a gist and in simple terms for a layman. The argument from prosecution (Govt) in here is that money seized in UK by NCA of Malik Riaz was to be returned into Pakistan Govt treasury and not into Supreme Court account.

The above statement in itself is false, do you know that? NCA is an agency that investigates for financial crime and forensics. They simply determine if money used is ill-gotten or not. If its established that money is not from legitimate sources then the transaction is reversed and money is returned to the original owner in their respective local country account.

The investigation from NCA did prove that money is illegitimate but that does not mean that money belongs to Pakistan Government rather than Malik Riaz. The money deemed to be of Malik Riaz and was supposed to be returned to him by NCA after unfreezing the respective accounts. Given that Malik Riaz in Pakistan already had a huge penalty in other case that money with agreement from Malik Riaz was then used to partially settle that penalty.

The entire argument from Govt stating that this money belonged to Pakistan treasury is completely non-sense. Our judicial system is such a joke that even jungle will have better justice system in there now.
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Major sahib once read Dawn or saw it on Geo and that is enough for him. Ahmed Noorani said he originally thought it was an open and shut case because the mafia showed him what Major sahib also thinks happened. But alas he is a journalist and when he saw the documents he realised that he had been duped. @Major take a few minutes and watch his video.
 
Major said:
its all thand program by their supporters.

alot have realized that army made the PTI so their is no point crying about what PMLN and PPP are doing with PTI.

Imran just doesnt know politics.

And this case is a valid case, whether their fans like it or not. But they need to show that they are big support and come out. I told these people here that when Bhutto can be hanged, Imran is nothing. But i was told by the same very posters that if anything happens to Imran, or even if he is placed in Jail, the people will come out because now we have social media.

and now look. Gets a verdict and everyone is quiet.
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Army didn't make the PTI. The best you could argue is that they didn't stand in its way upto 2018 elections but IK has been going since the 1990s. Remember when BB banned his mentioning in the 96 WC( yes it's not only now that he is persona non grata) and stopped adverts for the hospital funds on PTV.
Both the Bhuttos were nothing to their own family, why would they mean anything to anyone else? IK has a family of millions.
 
Extra_Cover said:
Mate I respect you as a poster on topics other than Imran Khan. In here as well I'm here to argue the facts of the case which seems to be disinformation and presented inaccurately.

Let me explain this in a gist and in simple terms for a layman. The argument from prosecution (Govt) in here is that money seized in UK by NCA of Malik Riaz was to be returned into Pakistan Govt treasury and not into Supreme Court account.

The above statement in itself is false, do you know that? NCA is an agency that investigates for financial crime and forensics. They simply determine if money used is ill-gotten or not. If its established that money is not from legitimate sources then the transaction is reversed and money is returned to the original owner in their respective local country account.

The investigation from NCA did prove that money is illegitimate but that does not mean that money belongs to Pakistan Government rather than Malik Riaz. The money deemed to be of Malik Riaz and was supposed to be returned to him by NCA after unfreezing the respective accounts. Given that Malik Riaz in Pakistan already had a huge penalty in other case that money with agreement from Malik Riaz was then used to partially settle that penalty.

The entire argument from Govt stating that this money belonged to Pakistan treasury is completely non-sense. Our judicial system is such a joke that even jungle will have better justice system in there now.
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i agree with you that that NCA determines if the money is ill gotten or not , and returns it and in this case they never established Ria's guilt. Fair enough.

However, the real issue lies in the lack of transparency regarding the £190 million once it was transferred to Pakistan. The money, deemed illegitimate by the NCA and therefore public funds, should have been deposited in the government treasury. Instead, it was transferred to the Supreme Court's account without clear accountability.
The investigation targeted eight bank accounts associated with Malik Riaz and his family.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1618221 they provided the whole case.

Imran is being implicated here because his got was the approver and allowed this to happen. Imran talked about transparency and during all that he allowed this.
 
Major said:
i agree with you that that NCA determines if the money is ill gotten or not , and returns it and in this case they never established Ria's guilt. Fair enough.

However, the real issue lies in the lack of transparency regarding the £190 million once it was transferred to Pakistan. The money, deemed illegitimate by the NCA and therefore public funds, should have been deposited in the government treasury. Instead, it was transferred to the Supreme Court's account without clear accountability.
The investigation targeted eight bank accounts associated with Malik Riaz and his family.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1618221 they provided the whole case.

Imran is being implicated here because his got was the approver and allowed this to happen. Imran talked about transparency and during all that he allowed this.
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So now you are coming around to seeing that this case was based on a total lie because the Generals and their puppets needed something to bring IK down a peg or 2 in the eyes of the public.
The reason that happened was because of the understanding between MR and the NCA and the confidentiality of that agreement. You need to read up on this.
So let's assume you are right and the money was transferred unethically or illegally into the SC account, what's stopped Bajwa,Munir and the puppets from undoing this?
 
Major said:
i agree with you that that NCA determines if the money is ill gotten or not , and returns it and in this case they never established Ria's guilt. Fair enough.

However, the real issue lies in the lack of transparency regarding the £190 million once it was transferred to Pakistan. The money, deemed illegitimate by the NCA and therefore public funds, should have been deposited in the government treasury. Instead, it was transferred to the Supreme Court's account without clear accountability.
The investigation targeted eight bank accounts associated with Malik Riaz and his family.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1618221 they provided the whole case.

Imran is being implicated here because his got was the approver and allowed this to happen. Imran talked about transparency and during all that he allowed this.
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The bolded part above! How did you reach the conclusion that the money is public funds?

In UK there is a requirement for criminal court proceedings to determine public money or taxpayers money. UK cannot conduct that criminal proceedings with respect to another country's public money as clearly they don't have the jurisdiction to do that.

What NCAs responsibility in here was to return the money to Malik Riaz and ensure the money is out of UK banking system. An agreement was then reached between NCA, Malik Riaz and then Pakistan Government to transfer the money to supreme Court given there is a pending penalty for Riaz.

The point you raised around transparency is completely irrelevant as the matter did not relate to public money or public at large at all. The money belonged to Malik Riaz and was used to settle part of his penalty. The entire thing is a sham, this NCA funds have nothing to do with land transfer for Al Qadir as that transaction happened a year before NCA seized the money. Nor this matter had anything to do with the public or public funds.

PS - A prosecutor who was disqualified to hold judiciary office in 2004 on grounds of mispractice and termed unfit to hold judiciary office was reinstated in 2022 (illegally) as a judge. The same judge delivered this verdict.
 
Major said:
i agree with you that that NCA determines if the money is ill gotten or not , and returns it and in this case they never established Ria's guilt. Fair enough.

However, the real issue lies in the lack of transparency regarding the £190 million once it was transferred to Pakistan. The money, deemed illegitimate by the NCA and therefore public funds, should have been deposited in the government treasury. Instead, it was transferred to the Supreme Court's account without clear accountability.
The investigation targeted eight bank accounts associated with Malik Riaz and his family.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1618221 they provided the whole case.

Imran is being implicated here because his got was the approver and allowed this to happen. Imran talked about transparency and during all that he allowed this.
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Earlier you said i am into conspiracy theories but you failed to explain why they needed a banned judge to run such an important case, if it is as you claim , he was actually guilty. Why not find a proper judge?

Is it it conspiracy to ask Why Bushra Bibi was jailed as it had nothing to do with her? Do you also believe it's a conspiracy The fact that in the judgement it states that the prosecution case has holes in it.
 
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The bolded part above! How did you reach the conclusion that the money is public funds?

In UK there is a requirement for criminal court proceedings to determine public money or taxpayers money. UK cannot conduct that criminal proceedings with respect to another country's public money as clearly they don't have the jurisdiction to do that.

What NCAs responsibility in here was to return the money to Malik Riaz and ensure the money is out of UK banking system. An agreement was then reached between NCA, Malik Riaz and then Pakistan Government to transfer the money to supreme Court given there is a pending penalty for Riaz.

The point you raised around transparency is completely irrelevant as the matter did not relate to public money or public at large at all. The money belonged to Malik Riaz and was used to settle part of his penalty. The entire thing is a sham, this NCA funds have nothing to do with land transfer for Al Qadir as that transaction happened a year before NCA seized the money. Nor this matter had anything to do with the public or public funds.

PS - A prosecutor who was disqualified to hold judiciary office in 2004 on grounds of mispractice and termed unfit to hold judiciary office was reinstated in 2022 (illegally) as a judge. The same judge delivered this verdict.
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Major Sahib will soon understand if he is honest to himself. But he is desperate to get one over IK after all these years of hate and being proved wrong every time. It hurts him that Billo and AZ sold out to Bajwa and Munir, it hurts him that Billo has no chance to being ever accepted by the public because he betrayed his Grandfather and Mother ( and if it is believed that Munir doesnt like him and the chances of being PM has diminished). It hurts him that Billo is even more dishonest than his own father and can never look people in the eye and say i am one of you like IK
 
Bewal Express said:
Major Sahib will soon understand if he is honest to himself. But he is desperate to get one over IK after all these years of hate and being proved wrong every time. It hurts him that Billo and AZ sold out to Bajwa and Munir, it hurts him that Billo has no chance to being ever accepted by the public because he betrayed his Grandfather and Mother ( and if it is believed that Munir doesnt like him and the chances of being PM has diminished). It hurts him that Billo is even more dishonest than his own father and can never look people in the eye and say i am one of you like IK
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I have nothing against Bilawal and Major is a decent poster outside his hatred for IK.

The thing is that IK is bigger than politics now. He is a Juggernaut and is going after the most powerful entity. PMLN or PPP are currently not even in the fight, yes they are a beneficiary of this but at end of day they have no weightage. If tomorrow Establishment decides to hand over government to Awaam Pakistan then they can do that with snap of fingers and both PMLN and PPP have lost public mileage, PPP still has interior Sindh though.

As Pakistani we should simply point out right from wrong and ensure we stand with justice whether that be at expense of our own favouritists.
 
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The bolded part above! How did you reach the conclusion that the money is public funds?

In UK there is a requirement for criminal court proceedings to determine public money or taxpayers money. UK cannot conduct that criminal proceedings with respect to another country's public money as clearly they don't have the jurisdiction to do that.

What NCAs responsibility in here was to return the money to Malik Riaz and ensure the money is out of UK banking system. An agreement was then reached between NCA, Malik Riaz and then Pakistan Government to transfer the money to supreme Court given there is a pending penalty for Riaz.

The point you raised around transparency is completely irrelevant as the matter did not relate to public money or public at large at all. The money belonged to Malik Riaz and was used to settle part of his penalty. The entire thing is a sham, this NCA funds have nothing to do with land transfer for Al Qadir as that transaction happened a year before NCA seized the money. Nor this matter had anything to do with the public or public funds.

PS - A prosecutor who was disqualified to hold judiciary office in 2004 on grounds of mispractice and termed unfit to hold judiciary office was reinstated in 2022 (illegally) as a judge. The same judge delivered this verdict.
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The NCA itself eemed the funds to be illegimate and when such funds are to be returend they are done so in the receiving country's public domain accounts not the supreme courts account. Malik riaz got to use this so settle his supreme court issue which was for a case that was unrelated to this.

The due process was never followed.

NCA's role was to simply remote the fund from the UK's banking system. Now if there was an agreement between NCA, Imrans govt and Malik riaz, why wasnt this disclosed publically?

How is transparency irrelevent here? Regardless of the money being tied to public os not, it was used to offset a penalty against Malik Riaz which itself lacked any public scrutiny.

You are right taht the land transaction predates the NCA seizure, but thats not the issue, issu is the interests between Riaz and Imrnas govt, which raises questions whether the govt was impartial here.

While the NCA and UK courts might not determine what constitutes Pakistans public funds, the treatment of these repatriated assets as a private settlement raises valid concerns. Transparency is critical when dealing with matters that indirectly affect public trust, governance, and accountability.
 
Major said:
The NCA itself eemed the funds to be illegimate and when such funds are to be returend they are done so in the receiving country's public domain accounts not the supreme courts account. Malik riaz got to use this so settle his supreme court issue which was for a case that was unrelated to this.

The due process was never followed.

NCA's role was to simply remote the fund from the UK's banking system. Now if there was an agreement between NCA, Imrans govt and Malik riaz, why wasnt this disclosed publically?

How is transparency irrelevent here? Regardless of the money being tied to public os not, it was used to offset a penalty against Malik Riaz which itself lacked any public scrutiny.

You are right taht the land transaction predates the NCA seizure, but thats not the issue, issu is the interests between Riaz and Imrnas govt, which raises questions whether the govt was impartial here.

While the NCA and UK courts might not determine what constitutes Pakistans public funds, the treatment of these repatriated assets as a private settlement raises valid concerns. Transparency is critical when dealing with matters that indirectly affect public trust, governance, and accountability.
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I think we are going around in circles here, I'm saying that NCA returned that money back to Malik Riaz whilst you are saying that NCA was to return that money to Pakistan Treasury.

At this moment I can only share a snapshot of what NCA has to say on this matter. If you look at page 60 of the linked NCA report you'd see this was a civil settlement with a family and not with Pakistan government.
 
Mamoon said:
Very sad to see. Imran is not without his faults and he has made many mistakes but he does not deserve this treatment.

He has achieved things and lived a life most people cannot dream of and if they can dream, they don’t have the courage to do so.

Imran has the heart of a lion and if this is how it ends for him then so be it because this is what God chose for him. Imran should die at peace knowing that he did whatever he could in his capacity to make a difference.
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Lol are you alright man? You sound like a Pakistani version of a new born Christian. Are you for real or being sarcastic? Whatever the case maybe, this is Pakistan and it’s hard to predict anything 2 months out. Imran Khan is more likely to be hanged than spend 14 years in prison.
 
Major said:
At the end of the day, he was guilty in this case.

I called it that there was leverage against him and that leverage was this case. He was at fault, should not had got involved. The established kept this case and knew it will come handy on a rainy day.

You cant say he didnt deserve punishment, he cross alot of lines and committed crime. His cricket acheivement should be celebrated, but his PMship and his politics is not something to celebrate as he allowed himself to become a tool for the establishment. He did their bidding and rigged an election in his favor. He should had stayed out of politics.

Point is no case was made up, every case was a valid case that even the high court or supreme court can do anything.

The only criticism that is valid is that the other politicians should also be punished for their crimes, be it Zardari and Nawaz Shareef and the Generals. But anyone who commits crime, you cant give them leverage.

At the end of the day, whichever side you are on, Imran, Zardari, and Nawaz are at fault for giving too much power to the establishment. Only difference is Zardari learned this early on that if you cant beat them, might aswell gain power to control them and than get your way. PML Q learned just join them and be used as a tool. What PTI did was exactly what PML Q. Imran allowed them to use him and today he has all valid cases against him.


The issue with his fans is they deny Ik's wrong doing but what everyone else to be charged. They are willing to give a free hand to him. How can you give him a free hand in the AL Qadir case.

Instead of crying for a guilty mans inncense why not ask for Malik Riaz to be punished for the same crime aswell
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Somewhat agree but it’s good to see you being at least fair in the sense that you want accountability from all politicians. End of the day Imran Khan made a mistake, learned his lesson and seems committed to not repeat them. If it was anyone else, they would have been long out of jail and given NRO and made compromises with the establishment. We can at least give some credit to IK for not backing down.
 
psyoptica said:
Somewhat agree but it’s good to see you being at least fair in the sense that you want accountability from all politicians. End of the day Imran Khan made a mistake, learned his lesson and seems committed to not repeat them. If it was anyone else, they would have been long out of jail and given NRO and made compromises with the establishment. We can at least give some credit to IK for not backing down.
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IK should take a step back and consider making some sort of deal. It seems like he’s not providing accurate information about the people of Pakistan. The reality is that most people from Punjab and Sindh likely wouldn’t even step out in support of him, even after his if he were hanged by the generals.
 
Imran disgraced himself and his cricketing legacy by turning a cheat and looting wealth from his already poor nation. The only thing unfair is that while he’s been rightfully convicted for being a thief, the rest of the crooks in the established political dynasties of Pakistan remain shielded from justice. Every corrupt leader must be put to the sword without any partiality. Moving from one thief to another doesn’t make things any better and from what i have heard Imran was a lesser thief compared to the Bhutto, Zardari, Sharifs.

Anyway, the ICC must immediately remove him from the Hall of Fame. This disgraced individual who got the money and power thanks to Cricket misused his position to loot people and ruin the future of a generation of Pakistanis who voted for him believing him to be a Messiah figure for them. An absolute shame.

Growing up listening to Imran Khan the legendary ex cricketer story teller i always found him to be full of himself and always trying to mansplain. It was common knowledge that he was a womanizer, a sex addict with the weirdest fantasies as revealed in details by his ex wife, and if under his mentorship someone like Wasim Akram became a cocain addict it only leads to one assuming what sort of mentor Imran must have been to inspire his brightest pupil go down that path. I think with all that history of his, we should have seen this coming, the Pakistani awaam should have seen this coming. He was a false prophet.
When he got the political power all I saw was his PR team posting his photos where he would put on so much make up he looked like someone on a transition journey to womanhood.

The worst people are those who show promise and false hope which is why people feel cheated from him.

When he became PM, many in Bharat thought being an ex cricketer and someone who’s had warm relationships with Bharat and its people throughout his career, he would contribute towards normalising the relationship between both countries. No one expected that it was going to be Imran Khan who would be the person to permanently break the delicate diplomatic bridges that kept the two nations connected. No Pakistani political leader has harmed relationships between our nations as much as Imran Khan did.

Imran khan is a case study of how not to be fooled by someone’s stature in sports or entertainment into giving them political power. Forget Modi, Amit Shah, Imran has been worse than Sharifs, Bhutto, Zardaris as a diplomat. He does not understand politics. He’s literally the subcontinent version of Bruce Jenner and if this was all happening in the US he would have declared himself a woman already. He’s been obsessed with women and cuckold life so much he’s become half a woman himself. I hope he continues to get a steady supply of cosmetics and ladies wear in jail.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Imran disgraced himself and his cricketing legacy by turning a cheat and looting wealth from his already poor nation. The only thing unfair is that while he’s been rightfully convicted for being a thief, the rest of the crooks in the established political dynasties of Pakistan remain shielded from justice. Every corrupt leader must be put to the sword without any partiality. Moving from one thief to another doesn’t make things any better and from what i have heard Imran was a lesser thief compared to the Bhutto, Zardari, Sharifs.

Anyway, the ICC must immediately remove him from the Hall of Fame. This disgraced individual who got the money and power thanks to Cricket misused his position to loot people and ruin the future of a generation of Pakistanis who voted for him believing him to be a Messiah figure for them. An absolute shame.

Growing up listening to Imran Khan the legendary ex cricketer story teller i always found him to be full of himself and always trying to mansplain. It was common knowledge that he was a womanizer, a sex addict with the weirdest fantasies as revealed in details by his ex wife, and if under his mentorship someone like Wasim Akram became a cocain addict it only leads to one assuming what sort of mentor Imran must have been to inspire his brightest pupil go down that path. I think with all that history of his, we should have seen this coming, the Pakistani awaam should have seen this coming. He was a false prophet.
When he got the political power all I saw was his PR team posting his photos where he would put on so much make up he looked like someone on a transition journey to womanhood.

The worst people are those who show promise and false hope which is why people feel cheated from him.

When he became PM, many in Bharat thought being an ex cricketer and someone who’s had warm relationships with Bharat and its people throughout his career, he would contribute towards normalising the relationship between both countries. No one expected that it was going to be Imran Khan who would be the person to permanently break the delicate diplomatic bridges that kept the two nations connected. No Pakistani political leader has harmed relationships between our nations as much as Imran Khan did.

Imran khan is a case study of how not to be fooled by someone’s stature in sports or entertainment into giving them political power. Forget Modi, Amit Shah, Imran has been worse than Sharifs, Bhutto, Zardaris as a diplomat. He does not understand politics. He’s literally the subcontinent version of Bruce Jenner and if this was all happening in the US he would have declared himself a woman already. He’s been obsessed with women and cuckold life so much he’s become half a woman himself. I hope he continues to get a steady supply of cosmetics and ladies wear in jail.
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LOL. you sound like someone who watched social media and geo news for updates on this case rather than actual knowledge and on-ground reality..
 
Life without his colorful posts on X against India/BJP/Modi is so dull. Not to mention him showcasing his genius when he said that Germany and Japan share borders, and that tress and plants produce oxygen at night. We need to keep them coming. If nothing else, at least provide him access to X in prison.

P.S. Will he get out of prison alive?​
 
Extra_Cover said:
I think we are going around in circles here, I'm saying that NCA returned that money back to Malik Riaz whilst you are saying that NCA was to return that money to Pakistan Treasury.

At this moment I can only share a snapshot of what NCA has to say on this matter. If you look at page 60 of the linked NCA report you'd see this was a civil settlement with a family and not with Pakistan government.
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Why was the transaction kept confidential? My understand is, IK made a deal with Malik Riaz to settle his case with the supreme court while he gained cheap land for his University venture.

Regardless, he did make a deal with the army knowing their and knowing fully well what they were capable of. He wanted to get a taste of power and overestimated his importance. This is not 1930s where you can consolidate power based on public sentiment. If you want to win in politics then you need learn to act like a politician. Play stupid games and you win stupid prizes.
 
psyoptica said:
Lol are you alright man? You sound like a Pakistani version of a new born Christian. Are you for real or being sarcastic? Whatever the case maybe, this is Pakistan and it’s hard to predict anything 2 months out. Imran Khan is more likely to be hanged than spend 14 years in prison.
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I have become a God fearing man who is repenting for his sins. I cannot fix everything that I have done in the past but I’m trying to fix whatever I can.

I am to live the rest of my days as a devout Muslim hoping that He will bestow His mercy on me.

If He does, I will die a lucky man who was saved by the Almighty from the path to doom thanks to His mercy but if He doesn’t, I will be in Hell knowing that I got the punishment that I deserved.
 
Mamoon said:
I have become a God fearing man who is repenting for his sins. I cannot fix everything that I have done in the past but I’m trying to fix whatever I can.

I am to live the rest of my days as a devout Muslim hoping that He will bestow His mercy on me.

If He does, I will die a lucky man who was saved by the Almighty from the path to doom thanks to His mercy but if He doesn’t, I will be in Hell knowing that I got the punishment that I deserved.
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Man you seem unstable. Becoming strong in your faith doesn't mean you do a complete 180 on all your views that have nothing to do with the religion lol. But I’m happy for you, and I hope this path brings you peace.
Weird conincidence as you changed your views on IK around the same time I started seeing him as a flawed human but still support him out of spite for the generals who control all aspects of life in Pakistan.
 
psyoptica said:
Man you seem unstable. Becoming strong in your faith doesn't mean you do a complete 180 on all your views that have nothing to do with the religion lol. But I’m happy for you, and I hope this path brings you peace.
Weird conincidence as you changed your views on IK around the same time I started seeing him as a flawed human but still support him out of spite for the generals who control all aspects of life in Pakistan.
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I identify with Imran Khan now because he changed his life around and I am inspired by that and aspire to the do the same. I have newfound respect and admiration for people like him and Junaid Jamshed now even though I wrongfully criticized and mocked them for years. May the Almighty forgive me.
 
This place has become more enjoyable now that Mamoon is on the right side with his views.

No need to discuss the merits of the case and the judgment.

Even Rana Sanaullah cannot stop admiring and admitting the fact that IK exceeded his expectations ie he is resisting, surviving the toughest possible jail conditions, resisting severe pressure from the establishment, refusing all easy deals. He didn't think Imran would have survived or withstood the mental torture of jail for this long.
 
Major said:
The NCA itself eemed the funds to be illegimate and when such funds are to be returend they are done so in the receiving country's public domain accounts not the supreme courts account. Malik riaz got to use this so settle his supreme court issue which was for a case that was unrelated to this.

The due process was never followed.

NCA's role was to simply remote the fund from the UK's banking system. Now if there was an agreement between NCA, Imrans govt and Malik riaz, why wasnt this disclosed publically?

How is transparency irrelevent here? Regardless of the money being tied to public os not, it was used to offset a penalty against Malik Riaz which itself lacked any public scrutiny.

You are right taht the land transaction predates the NCA seizure, but thats not the issue, issu is the interests between Riaz and Imrnas govt, which raises questions whether the govt was impartial here.

While the NCA and UK courts might not determine what constitutes Pakistans public funds, the treatment of these repatriated assets as a private settlement raises valid concerns. Transparency is critical when dealing with matters that indirectly affect public trust, governance, and accountability.
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So you are continuing with a blatant lie that the money belonged to the PK state when it was repatriated from the UK, when we have shown you the evidence that it wasn't. You have failed to address this and you know as well as I, that they wouldn't have appointed a banned judge to hear such an important case if the case had legs. You have failed to explain why Bushra Bibi was jailed( well you may stick your head in the sand but we know), you have failed to explain why the toute journalists knew the verdict weeks ago and a full verdict was online after 10min of being read out by the compromised judge.
If the MR money did belong to the state, why havent they forced him to pay more? You may also remember that MR built the Billo mansion in return for the stolen land in Karachi. That was corruption because Billo was a direct beneficiary of the deal. Would you like to see Billo and MR charged for this blatant corruption.
 
Savak said:
This place has become more enjoyable now that Mamoon is on the right side with his views.

No need to discuss the merits of the case and the judgment.

Even Rana Sanaullah cannot stop admiring and admitting the fact that IK exceeded his expectations ie he is resisting, surviving the toughest possible jail conditions, resisting severe pressure from the establishment, refusing all easy deals. He didn't think Imran would have survived or withstood the mental torture of jail for this long.
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We should be down and out after yesterday but IA we are about to get civilian rule( time frame is still a moveable feast. establishment is in a bind, they have given up on the hereafter, and now they face the noose for murder if they are out of power. As Isa has found to his cost, hiding in your basement isn't exactly a nice retirement retreat.
 
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Mamoon said:
I identify with Imran Khan now because he changed his life around and I am inspired by that and aspire to the do the same. I have newfound respect and admiration for people like him and Junaid Jamshed now even though I wrongfully criticized and mocked them for years. May the Almighty forgive me.
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May Allah help you and us on our journeys to be better people.
 
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Varun said:
Are you two so gullible that you believe this? 😆
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I don't care. You know me, never backwards in coming forwards. My views are not influenced by anyone on here. If people change, good for them, if they don't, that is also all good.
 
Mamoon said:
I have become a God fearing man who is repenting for his sins. I cannot fix everything that I have done in the past but I’m trying to fix whatever I can.

I am to live the rest of my days as a devout Muslim hoping that He will bestow His mercy on me.

If He does, I will die a lucky man who was saved by the Almighty from the path to doom thanks to His mercy but if He doesn’t, I will be in Hell knowing that I got the punishment that I deserved.
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What's the reason for such a big change. I am interested to know what you saw/heard that brought about such a change in heart.
 
Mamoon said:
I identify with Imran Khan now because he changed his life around and I am inspired by that and aspire to the do the same. I have newfound respect and admiration for people like him and Junaid Jamshed now even though I wrongfully criticized and mocked them for years. May the Almighty forgive me.
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I hoope you are being real and it's not one of your "I voted for PTI" moments.
 
Sher Khan said:
What's the reason for such a big change. I am interested to know what you saw/heard that brought about such a change in heart.
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Becoming a father changed me. I want to live a better life for him and to teach him to be a God fearing person who lives a life of honesty and integrity.
 
psyoptica said:
I hoope you are being real and it's not one of your "I voted for PTI" moments.
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Varun said:
Are you two so gullible that you believe this? 😆
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It doesn’t matter what people say or how they perceive it. That is not in my control.

What I seek is forgiveness and guidance from the Almighty and strength to continue on my journey towards redemption.

When I die, what people say about me will have absolutely no significance.
 
psyoptica said:
Why was the transaction kept confidential? My understand is, IK made a deal with Malik Riaz to settle his case with the supreme court while he gained cheap land for his University venture.

Regardless, he did make a deal with the army knowing their and knowing fully well what they were capable of. He wanted to get a taste of power and overestimated his importance. This is not 1930s where you can consolidate power based on public sentiment. If you want to win in politics then you need learn to act like a politician. Play stupid games and you win stupid prizes.
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Your post is quite hypocritical in itself. By looks of it you agree there were no legal wrongdoings or criminal activity in the said transaction itself.

You then go onto say that provided the transaction was kept confidential that itself insinuate some wrongdoings, therefore based on that insuination we should prosecute IK as hunch or theory is better than solid facts. I cannot change the way you think or can argue which legal precedent was broken through confidentiality as clearly that is irrelevant to your way of thinking.

The last para is quite weird. Here you mention that going hand in glove with military will reap painful ends. In the same para you also say that gone are the days where public opinion used to matter so going forward you need military backing to win positions. Very weird and hypocritical analogy.

Hope your words make sense to you.
 
Al-Qadir Trust case: Tarar says amount confiscated by NCA to be used for nation’s welfare

Information Minister Attaullah Tarar on Saturday said that an amount recovered by the UK’s National Crime Agency (NCA) in a settlement with the family of property tycoon Malik Riaz and subsequently handed over to the federal government would be used for the nation’s welfare.

The information minister was addressing a press conference in Lahore a day after the sentencing in the Al-Qadir Trust Case. Former prime minister Imran Khan and his spouse Bushra Bibi were formally convicted in the £190 million Al-Qadir Trust corruption case, sentencing both to prison.

As per the verdict, the “property of the sham … Al-Qadir University Project Trust” was forfeited to the federal government. The other accused, namely Bahria Town owner Malik Riaz Hussain, his son Ahmed Ali Riaz Malik, former accountability czar Mirza Shahzad Akbar, former PM’s aide Zulfi Bukhari, Farhat Shahzadi and Ziaul Mustafa Nasim have already been declared proclaimed offenders and perpetual warrants for their arrest and the confiscation of their properties has been ordered.

The detailed verdict, spanning 148 pages, recalled that the Supreme Court had held that the grant of land by the Sindh Board of Revenue (SBR) to the Malir Development Authority (MDA), and the MDA’s subsequent exchange of the land with the Bahria Town (Pvt) Limited were all illegal and a result of collusion amongst all the stakeholders.

Subsequently, Bahria Town agreed to pay a total sum of Rs460 billion for the land. The verdict said that funds from foreign bank accounts, previously frozen by the NCA, were repatriated to settle the liabilities of Bahria Town instead of being added to the national kitty.

In his press conference on the entire situation, the information minister said: “The fine [of Rs460bn] which was applied [by the Supreme Court] that was being paid through this amount [of £190m], obviously after this order this amount will not be able to be used to pay for that fine. So now it is a matter between that private party and the court how the court recovers that money.

“The state’s job was to recover the amount that was to be returned to it. So now it will return and it will be used for the welfare of the nation.”

Tarar said legal consultation was ongoing on how to bring the absconders back and what avenues would be used for that.

The minister claimed that Imran had no legal recourse for an appeal in the case, also demanding that any appeal be fixed after hearing after pending appeals were decided.

“They don’t have material, legal argument, documentation and evidence that is why they will try to play around with technicality. The appeal will be very weak … I don’t the case has enough merit that the appeal is upheld beyond two or three hearings,” he said.

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Al-Qadir Trust case: Tarar says amount confiscated by NCA to be used for nation’s welfare

Information minister says amount will not be used to pay Rs460bn fine on Bahria Town by Supreme Court, legal consultation ongoing on how to bring the absconders back.
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These guys have taken possession of the University. The crooks that have never set foot in a classroom and led by maryam, who now wants to control a University.
 
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Imran and Bushra prepare appeal in £190 million reference​


Lawyers for Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan and his wife, Bushra Bibi, have prepared appeals against their convictions in the £190 million pound reference. The appeals are expected to be filed in the Islamabad High Court on January 21.

Barristers Salman Safdar and Khalid Yousaf Chaudhry will represent Khan and Bushra. Their power of attorney documents have been submitted to Adiala Jail authorities for the defendants’ signatures. Jail officials are expected to return the signed documents to the lawyers on Monday.

Lawyer Khalid Yousaf confirmed that the jail authorities have received the documents but did not allow the lawyers access to the prisoners.

On January 17, Accountability Court Judge Nasir Javed Rana in Adiala Jail, Rawalpindi, found Imran Khan guilty and sentenced him to 14 years imprisonment and a fine of Rs1 million, with an additional 6 months imprisonment if the fine is not paid.

Bushra Bibi received a 7-year sentence and a Rs500,000 fine, with an additional 3 months imprisonment if unpaid. She was arrested immediately following the verdict.

The Accountability Court also ordered the Al-Qadir University to be taken into government control.

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Imran and Bushra prepare appeal in £190 million reference

Both were sentenced in the case on January 17
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FearlessRoar said:

Imran and Bushra prepare appeal in £190 million reference​


Lawyers for Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan and his wife, Bushra Bibi, have prepared appeals against their convictions in the £190 million pound reference. The appeals are expected to be filed in the Islamabad High Court on January 21.

Barristers Salman Safdar and Khalid Yousaf Chaudhry will represent Khan and Bushra. Their power of attorney documents have been submitted to Adiala Jail authorities for the defendants’ signatures. Jail officials are expected to return the signed documents to the lawyers on Monday.

Lawyer Khalid Yousaf confirmed that the jail authorities have received the documents but did not allow the lawyers access to the prisoners.

On January 17, Accountability Court Judge Nasir Javed Rana in Adiala Jail, Rawalpindi, found Imran Khan guilty and sentenced him to 14 years imprisonment and a fine of Rs1 million, with an additional 6 months imprisonment if the fine is not paid.

Bushra Bibi received a 7-year sentence and a Rs500,000 fine, with an additional 3 months imprisonment if unpaid. She was arrested immediately following the verdict.

The Accountability Court also ordered the Al-Qadir University to be taken into government control.

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Imran and Bushra prepare appeal in £190 million reference

Both were sentenced in the case on January 17
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The facts of the case destroyed a carefully crafted lie in less than 24 hours.
@Slim
Why is NS not being charged on this? All the trail leads back to him and MR and their double priced property deal. Why did MR bribe NS? Let's see a reply from your rattled cage
 
Bewal Express said:
The facts of the case destroyed a carefully crafted lie in less than 24 hours.
@Slim
Why is NS not being charged on this? All the trail leads back to him and MR and their double priced property deal. Why did MR bribe NS? Let's see a reply from your rattled cage
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Im not interested, stop tagging me like a rabid dog.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Bro. Ignore the Trolls

People that back shariffs zardaris are part of the problem.
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Buddy, i dont support either side. I live in canada, im a canadian. I was just sharing my observation on leadership style in another thread, i have disdain for both sides for different set of reasons. Idk how @Bewal Express got on my tail acting like he woke up from the wrong side of the bed. You confusing me with someone else bud?
 
Slim said:
Buddy, i dont support either side. I live in canada, im a canadian. I was just sharing my observation on leadership style in another thread, i have disdain for both sides for different set of reasons. Idk how @Bewal Express got on my tail acting like he woke up from the wrong side of the bed. You confusing me with someone else bud?
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Fair enough.

But what i would say is @BewalExpress is very clued up on Pakistan politics and issues surrounding it.
 
Slim said:
Buddy, i dont support either side. I live in canada, im a canadian. I was just sharing my observation on leadership style in another thread, i have disdain for both sides for different set of reasons. Idk how @Bewal Express got on my tail acting like he woke up from the wrong side of the bed. You confusing me with someone else bud?
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So you defend NS after he has overthrown govts for decades, you defend NS after he helped in the murder of 100s of our Pathan brothers in cold blood, you defend NS after he stole billions from a. Poor country and you defend NS after he got annihilated in the elections and still decided to be ruler. Who do you think you are kidding me or yourself.
 
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