In a fair world, Ahmad Shehzad would have been opening for Pakistan on the England tour

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

These are the current pool of openers Pakistan have and there Test avgs are listed by me below!!

Name - Test Average

Khurram Manzoor - 28
Nasir Jamshed - 12
Sami Aslam - 15
Shan Masood - 26
Taufeeq Umar - 28
Mohammad Hafeez - 40
Azhar Ali - 23
comapred to this our Ahmad Shahzad averages 43 in Test cricket and has mostly faced tough opposition such as SA, Aus, NZ, SL. So he hasnot made any easy runs like others esp Hafeez. And despite that he has the best record of all available openers!!!

One other thing is the recent Pakistan cup where he was far better than any other opener or batsman in this country and averaged 100+ im sure. Also once he was given captaincy he was even better so if life was fair he would be in team and given some gradual leadership responsivility as well!!!!!
so from cricketing angle there is no reason for him not to be playing in england if you look at his record and recent form. can someone explain seriously why is he not there????

infact i saw on twitter that f you look at statistics then Ahmad is the second best proper opener in the history of pakistan cricket after Saeed anwar (minimun of 10+innings). And he is very young so will only get better.

I checked on cricinfo and these are top 3 opener averages in pakistan operner history (more than 10 innings):
Saeed Anwar - 47
Ahmad Shahzad - 43
Shoaib Malik - 42
Majid Khan - 42
Hanif Mohammad - 41
so as i mentioned. If life was fair and selection was on merit then Ahmad not only would have been in the team but one of the first names on the sheet. A talented youngster like him who already is the second best opener in our history should be encouraged and helped. He can easily become the best ever for us considering his tender age. He should be given vice captaincy and odi captaincy but Instead Waqr younis, inzamam, misbah and grant flower are doing their best to destroy his budding career!!!

i have notced some ppl on this forum are also his haters but one should not also deny facts. As i showed his record is much much better than any current opener and he is also one of the best we have ever had.

 

[wasimjunior]

Boring

 

[Sherlock]

Likely his twitter follower and major fan.

 

[Slog]

lol

are the opener stats true?

if those are our top 5 in history then we havent really ever had that great openers!

 

[ExplicitAI]

Hafeez as an opener would be more effective in adding to our total than Shehzad.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

In a Fair World Ahmad Shehzad wouldn't be a cricketer to begin with.....

Would do much better as a professional photographer than an international Batsman to be honest

 

[street cricketer]

Lol I remember seeing a lot of these Ahmad FC clubs on his twitter page

Although German fc, I think Hanif Mohammed has a case to be compared to Shezzi eventhough his average is slightly lower.

 

[Sidilicious]

Did the OP just compare Hanif Md to Shehzad?

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Did the OP just compare Hanif Md to Shehzad?

apparently he did

 

[Misia]

These are the current pool of openers Pakistan have and there Test avgs are listed by me below!!

Name - Test Average

Khurram Manzoor - 28
Nasir Jamshed - 12
Sami Aslam - 15
Shan Masood - 26
Taufeeq Umar - 28
Mohammad Hafeez - 40
Azhar Ali - 23
comapred to this our Ahmad Shahzad averages 43 in Test cricket and has mostly faced tough opposition such as SA, Aus, NZ, SL. So he hasnot made any easy runs like others esp Hafeez. And despite that he has the best record of all available openers!!!

One other thing is the recent Pakistan cup where he was far better than any other opener or batsman in this country and averaged 100+ im sure. Also once he was given captaincy he was even better so if life was fair he would be in team and given some gradual leadership responsivility as well!!!!!
so from cricketing angle there is no reason for him not to be playing in england if you look at his record and recent form. can someone explain seriously why is he not there????

infact i saw on twitter that f you look at statistics then Ahmad is the second best proper opener in the history of pakistan cricket after Saeed anwar (minimun of 10+innings). And he is very young so will only get better.

I checked on cricinfo and these are top 3 opener averages in pakistan operner history (more than 10 innings):
Saeed Anwar - 47
Ahmad Shahzad - 43
Shoaib Malik - 42
Majid Khan - 42
Hanif Mohammad - 41
so as i mentioned. If life was fair and selection was on merit then Ahmad not only would have been in the team but one of the first names on the sheet. A talented youngster like him who already is the second best opener in our history should be encouraged and helped. He can easily become the best ever for us considering his tender age. He should be given vice captaincy and odi captaincy but Instead Waqr younis, inzamam, misbah and grant flower are doing their best to destroy his budding career!!!

i have notced some ppl on this forum are also his haters but one should not also deny facts. As i showed his record is much much better than any current opener and he is also one of the best we have ever had.

I didnt see yiu point out the amount/diffrance in actaul matches played. Im guessing that shazads 43 av is based loosley on his playing far less tests (not even half) what others mention players have

 

[Sidilicious]

I didnt see yiu point out the amount/diffrance in actaul matches played. Im guessing that shazads 43 av is based loosley on his playing far less tests (not even half) what others mention players have

add - only in uae + sri lanka

 

[marlonbrowndo]

We are just haters. Shehzad is a legendary batsman. Of course he is a better test batsman than Haif Mohammad

 

[Gabbar Singh]

In a fair and ideal world Ahmed Shahzad would stop behaving like a petulant child and therefore sure he would be starting for Pakistan vs England.

 

[Hasan123]

We are just haters. Shehzad is a legendary batsman. Of course he is a better test batsman than Haif Mohammad

It's really not difficult to be better than manzoor,jamshed,and Sami Aslam in test cricket so this thread shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[Hasan123]

Ops picture shows how biased you are. Not even gonna take this thread seriously. He has some good stats but it's really not hard to be better than jamshed,manzoor, and aslam.

 

[Slog]

Lol not that I'm a fan of Shehzad (anyone who knows me would know that haha) but why are most posters here personally attacking the Op lol. I feel bad for him now

Anyways just for arguments sake

The problem with Shehzad is two fold.

First is his game and technique. He has zero foot movement and it seems his feet are like cement and glued to the ground. He plays cross batted shots at times and is limited in his shot range. This all points to the fact that he is likely to fail in English conditions which is why it doesn't make sense to take him to the tour.

Second is his performance. We all know his record in past one year. So there no cricketing case for him to be selected.

Tie this all into his attitude and discipline which you are ignoring

 

[#GreenRoars]

Dude, Shehzad has played most of his matches in Asia. That's why he has a good average.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

1. Who is the most consistent opener in Pakistam Fc with Best Average on difficult wickets ?

2. Who is the Opener with Solid Defence and Technique ?

3. Who is the Opener with most wide range stroke play in his armoury ?


The Ans to all these questions is


Naeemuddin Qazi.



Had i been in a position to make decision than i would have selected Naeemuddin for next 2 years until any of Ahsan, Jaahid or Imam scored heavily in two Fc seasons aswell as got nurtured and developed properly in 2-3 Pakistan A four day series.



Uptil now Hafeez has takem some starts while Shan has had 2 decent outings aswell so i expect them to do well in the first Test where they have to negotiate Broad who isnt as deadly as Anderson.


Lastly, Shehzad does not have solid defence and solid technique for pitches conducive for fast bowling plus he is bad at rotating strike so he would not have done well in Tests in Eng so despite discipline and attitude concerns he has rightly been dropped.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Lol not that I'm a fan of Shehzad (anyone who knows me would know that haha) but why are most posters here personally attacking the Op lol. I feel bad for him now

Anyways just for arguments sake

The problem with Shehzad is two fold.

First is his game and technique. He has zero foot movement and it seems his feet are like cement and glued to the ground. He plays cross batted shots at times and is limited in his shot range. This all points to the fact that he is likely to fail in English conditions which is why it doesn't make sense to take him to the tour.

Second is his performance. We all know his record in past one year. So there no cricketing case for him to be selected.

Tie this all into his attitude and discipline which you are ignoring

Agreed

Shehzad deserves the early Swann treatment and the later kp treatment as shown by England

If shehzad looked like Sami aslam no one would bother

 

[last_knight]

KP has better comparative stats than Ahmed Shehzad and still finds him out of team.

Secondly, in a fair world, Ahmed Shehzad should not play LOIs for at least 24 months.

 

[ads101]

Should have been part of the test squad and didn't do much to get dropped in tests.

Though think he's being kept out for discipline reasons rather than performance.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Ops picture shows how biased you are. Not even gonna take this thread seriously. He has some good stats but it's really not hard to be better than jamshed,manzoor, and aslam.

and who he is competing with? so shudnt he be choosen if his stats are better than all his rival openers.

infact as i showed his stats are better than most pakistani openers in our history

also what does picture have anythign t odo. many ppl here have pics of diff players. are their opinion not valid??? if i have ahmads pic then so what????

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

We are just haters. Shehzad is a legendary batsman. Of course he is a better test batsman than Haif Mohammad

i dont noe whether ure being sarcastic .

if youre not then i wil lsay dat hanif mohammad is also a legend so eventhogh statistics say ahmad is better i will rate hanif mohd him higher for now as he has been successful for longer time than ahmad. but ahmad is only 24 so he can surpass hm if people treat him fairly and dunt destory his carrier

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

^ sry for bad spelling. on fone ryt now so lot of mistakes but read content.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I do not agree with most of your opening post but I believe that Ahmed shehzad is the 2nd best opener available to Pakistan at the moment. Btw taufeeq averages 38 not 28.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Lol not that I'm a fan of Shehzad (anyone who knows me would know that haha) but why are most posters here personally attacking the Op lol. I feel bad for him now

Anyways just for arguments sake

The problem with Shehzad is two fold.

First is his game and technique. He has zero foot movement and it seems his feet are like cement and glued to the ground. He plays cross batted shots at times and is limited in his shot range. This all points to the fact that he is likely to fail in English conditions which is why it doesn't make sense to take him to the tour.

Second is his performance. We all know his record in past one year. So there no cricketing case for him to be selected.

Tie this all into his attitude and discipline which you are ignoring

so u r saying he is 'limited in shot range.' But many expers and legends like ricky ponting and gavaskar have praised him and said he is beeter than rivals. shud i trust their opinion or urs?

also ur performance part is not true. he was best player in Pakistan cup. far better than any other batter. also as i showed he is the best opener we have performance wise.

finally. discipline part has been proven wrong and that it was lie. only waqar who wanted to destroy ahmad's career keeps saying that and we all know how justice came to him and ge got sacked.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

I do not agree with most of your opening post but I believe that Ahmed shehzad is the 2nd best opener available to Pakistan at the moment. Btw taufeeq averages 38 not 28.

my mistake. i confused him with other bad openers.

Ahmads still much better than him.

 

[JibranAnsari]

my mistake. i confused him with other bad openers.

Ahmads still much better than him.

Taufeeq was a better batsman but his time is gone. Shehzad has played all his test cricket in familiar conditions and we all know how he struggles when the ball is swinging. He should have been in the test team based on his record but I would be a teenage girl fan to believe that shehzad could do any better than hafeez in england. His rigid feet and weakness outside outstump would not let him survive against the new cherry in england

 

[Hasan123]

and who he is competing with? so shudnt he be choosen if his stats are better than all his rival openers.

infact as i showed his stats are better than most pakistani openers in our history

also what does picture have anythign t odo. many ppl here have pics of diff players. are their opinion not valid??? if i have ahmads pic then so what????

Because the way you are presenting the stats as if though shehzad is achieving greatness by being better than these players when in reality it's not hard to beat there numbers especially as he got more games in UAE than most of these players barring hafeez.

His stats are better for now, let's see when he finishes how these numbers are.

Your opinion is valid but don't let it cloud your judgment bro. Shehzad has weakness that would make him vulnerable in English conditions. We have poor options available when it comes to openers. Shehzad is one of the better ones but doesn't really say much.

 

[Slog]

Taufeeq was a better batsman but his time is gone. Shehzad has played all his test cricket in familiar conditions and we all know how he struggles when the ball is swinging. He should have been in the test team based on his record but I would be a teenage girl fan to believe that shehzad could do any better than hafeez in england. His rigid feet and weakness outside outstump would not let him survive against the new cherry in england

hell say he has good stats

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Extremely awful behaviour from some fellow posters in their response to the OP. Seems like having a different opinion means a death sentence for any poster. How about rather than personally attacking, some posters try to counter the OP who made a factual post. Many posters sound like they are shehzad's personal enemies.

Anyway on topic: like [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] said that other day as well that shehzad was harshly dropped from the test squad and with all due respect hafeez and shan are not better openers than shehzad. He definitely in a fair world would have been in the playing 11 but he was dropped due to his disciplne issues.

 

[Slog]

Anyway on topic: like [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] said that other day as well that shehzad was harshly dropped from the test squad and with all due respect hafeez and shan are not better openers than shehzad. He definitely in a fair world would have been in the playing 11 but he was dropped due to his disciplne issues.

Lol stop twisting my words. I have been pretty clear that I don't think he deserves to be the squad let alone be in the starting eleven.

All I said was that maybe he can say that test dropping was a bit harsh after one failed Sri Lanka series. But at the same time he had continued his poor form in ODIs.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Lol stop twisting my words. I have been pretty clear that I don't think he deserves to be the squad let alone be in the starting eleven.

All I said was that maybe he can say that test dropping was a bit harsh after one failed Sri Lanka series. But at the same time he had continued his poor form in ODIs.

Didnt twist anything. Mentioned the drop as harsh like you said it. Did not know that one format impacted the other nevertheless.

 

[MRSN]

Completely agreed with the OP.

Ahmed Shehzad being dropped from tests was quite unfair. He was miles better than the likes of SHan and Khurrum.

 

[Slog]

Didnt twist anything. Mentioned the drop as harsh like you said it. Did not know that one format impacted the other nevertheless.

Ok my bad as I read it wrongly in a hurry. I thought you were claiming that I was agreeing with the whole post

 

[aloo paratha]

Has played most his matches on roads in UAE. Averaged 25 in Sri Lanka against an average Sri Lankan attack. Even that boosted by a not out.

Even then his sample size is way too low. only 11 matches.

 

[Usman Chadda]

In a fair world, Ahmed Shehzad would just leave Pakistan alone.

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[PakHammer]

Problem is that since he got hit on the helmet by Cory Anderson, he has not been the same player and lost some of his confidence. It's a shame as just before he got hit, he was beginning to show some consistency and hit decent scores. A pre hit Shehzed, yes. A post hit Shehzed, no.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

For test cricket yes ,BUT then he would wanna be a part of the ODI team based on his test form . Guy is not a LOI player .He can play all the dot balls and grind teh bowlers down in tests cricket but teh same doesn't work for LOI's.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

i dont noe whether ure being sarcastic .

if youre not then i wil lsay dat hanif mohammad is also a legend so eventhogh statistics say ahmad is better i will rate hanif mohd him higher for now as he has been successful for longer time than ahmad. but ahmad is only 24 so he can surpass hm if people treat him fairly and dunt destory his carrier

Hanif will be very grateful for this

 

[Slog]

Problem is that since he got hit on the helmet by Cory Anderson, he has not been the same player and lost some of his confidence. It's a shame as just before he got hit, he was beginning to show some consistency and hit decent scores. A pre hit Shehzed, yes. A post hit Shehzed, no.

Lol this excuse has been going for over a year almost and I've debunked it multiple times

Shehzad scored a century a week after his return from the head injury

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Ok my bad as I read it wrongly in a hurry. I thought you were claiming that I was agreeing with the whole post

No problem.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Completely agreed with the OP.

Ahmed Shehzad being dropped from tests was quite unfair. He was miles better than the likes of SHan and Khurrum.

Shehzad might be really bad. He might be really awful. However, nothing in this world can justify the selection of sami aslam and shan masood over him. This is UNJUSTIFIABLE. No matter what angle you look at it.

The only thing that can excuse it is his alleged poor discipline.

 

[PakHammer]

Stats can back up most foolish arguments such as yours. The fact he has lost confidence playing the short ball since getting hit and that is a weakness. Before getting hit, he played the short ball pretty well.

I don't blame the lad as getting hit like that is no nice experience. But if you think he is the same player since he got hit, than you are deluded.

 

[msb314]

These are the current pool of openers Pakistan have and there Test avgs are listed by me below!!

Name - Test Average

Khurram Manzoor - 28
Nasir Jamshed - 12
Sami Aslam - 15
Shan Masood - 26
Taufeeq Umar - 28
Mohammad Hafeez - 40
Azhar Ali - 23
comapred to this our Ahmad Shahzad averages 43 in Test cricket and has mostly faced tough opposition such as SA, Aus, NZ, SL. So he hasnot made any easy runs like others esp Hafeez. And despite that he has the best record of all available openers!!!

One other thing is the recent Pakistan cup where he was far better than any other opener or batsman in this country and averaged 100+ im sure. Also once he was given captaincy he was even better so if life was fair he would be in team and given some gradual leadership responsivility as well!!!!!
so from cricketing angle there is no reason for him not to be playing in england if you look at his record and recent form. can someone explain seriously why is he not there????

infact i saw on twitter that f you look at statistics then Ahmad is the second best proper opener in the history of pakistan cricket after Saeed anwar (minimun of 10+innings). And he is very young so will only get better.

I checked on cricinfo and these are top 3 opener averages in pakistan operner history (more than 10 innings):
Saeed Anwar - 47
Ahmad Shahzad - 43
Shoaib Malik - 42
Majid Khan - 42
Hanif Mohammad - 41
so as i mentioned. If life was fair and selection was on merit then Ahmad not only would have been in the team but one of the first names on the sheet. A talented youngster like him who already is the second best opener in our history should be encouraged and helped. He can easily become the best ever for us considering his tender age. He should be given vice captaincy and odi captaincy but Instead Waqr younis, inzamam, misbah and grant flower are doing their best to destroy his budding career!!!

i have notced some ppl on this forum are also his haters but one should not also deny facts. As i showed his record is much much better than any current opener and he is also one of the best we have ever had.

What many people need to understand is that Shehzad is one of the best openers we have right now and should be in the playing XI in all formats.

He clearly has the talent and all the shots in the book - just needs to relax his posture a bit more and rotate strike early on in his innings.

 

[Belawal2014]

The only shot Shahzad has is the cross batted hoick with planted feet.

 

[Ellipsism]

We all know what happened with Ahmed Shehzad last time we played a test series against the mighty Sri Lankan's...

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Hanif will be very grateful for this

) Seems like Hanif's standards have fallen to an all-time low

 

[Arham_PakFan]

He has played most matches in the UAE and in SC,so he has an extremely inflated average,like most of our other batsmen.He was dropped for this tour on discipline issues,remember.

 

[anuk]

i have to laugh when i see the guys inzi has picked to replace shezzy. shezad will be back soon enough.

 

[Mamoon]

He is better than Masood. Should he be in the team instead?

Based on social justice, yes.

 

[kingusama92]

In a fair world, he would have been dropped years ago after consistently being indisciplined.

I think he was 15 when I first saw his name pop up for indiscipline. That says it all.

 

[Monsee]

What most simpleton Pak fans need to realise is that he is in a team and team is not his daddy's jageer; if he is not willing to play by the rules like everyone else, he can take a million selfies, score 1000's of runs, retweet any number of idiotic posts against anyone he does not like etc. he will not be included in the team any time soon!

And it is not as if he is the second coming of Bradman, Miandad, Inzi, Majid, Hanif etc. etc., he is at best an average bat who talks much more than he scores runs...and usually all the selfies he takes, they make him look ameteurish fool rather than a star like he thinks of himself

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Nothing batsman. [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] he is a worse bottler than Amla so use the same standards to judge everyone. What has he done in international cricket in the past 2 years! I dont care if hes "better than the alternatives because he scored in PSL and some domestic cup." He is a bunny against most international level bowlers. His fans will cry and then afterdhe gets selected for some major tournament, loses us some games then gets dropped, they will cry again. This cycle has become predictable.

 

[msb314]

What most simpleton Pak fans (like this selfie village idiot's ones) need to realise is that he is in a team and team is not his daddy's jageer; if he is not willing to play by the rules like everyone else, he can take a million selfies, score 1000's of runs, retweet any number of idiotic posts against anyone he does not like etc. he will not be included in the team any time soon!

And it is not as if he is the second coming of Bradman, Miandad, Inzi, Majid, Hanif etc. etc., he is at best an average bat who talks much more than he scores runs...and usually all the selfies he takes, they make him look ameteurish fool rather than a star like he thinks of himself

What he does or does not do in his personal life should not be of anyone's concern and certainly not a criteria for selection....

 

[#GreenRoars]

my mistake. i confused him with other bad openers.

Ahmads still much better than him.

Bro, he has been dropped due to disciplinary issues.

 

[Varun]

Shehzad has clearly revved up a PR agency of late. If you piece together everything that is happening online and offline, you can see the picture too.

Pity PP isn't full of dullards. We can call a spade a spade out here.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Hard to take the original post seriously when the stats he uses as an argument are wrong.

I agree though that on merit, Shehzad should have been retained in the test squad. But he has not been dropped for bad performances - he has been dropped on disciplinary grounds.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Shehzad has clearly revved up a PR agency of late. If you piece together everything that is happening online and offline, you can see the picture too.

Pity PP isn't full of dullards. We can call a spade a spade out here.

You have got a good an interesting imagination, my indian friend. Area 52 has aliens as well.
Oh and btw you do not represent the whole pakpassion. So kindly keep your opinions to yourself.

 

[proud_pakistani]

In terms of the comparison between Masood and Shehzad, I personally don't think there is a massive difference between the 2. Both are slightly above average batsment. I think Masood has been selected because he has played a lot of cricket on English tracks which is a good resource to have in the series.

Also, let's not forget the main premise of Shehzad's dropping is disciplinary. I would rather have a guy like Masood who has better team spirit and more hard working than a guy like Shehzad who without achieving anything thinks he is the second coming of Don Bradman. He needs some tough love and sort those issues out.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Because the way you are presenting the stats as if though shehzad is achieving greatness by being better than these players when in reality it's not hard to beat there numbers especially as he got more games in UAE than most of these players barring hafeez.

so if he is beating dere numbers then y is he not playing???

But ahmad has better stats than all of them and did better in pakistan cup so he shud be selected. he is one of our best openers ever so far!!!!

 

[Hasan123]

so if he is beating dere numbers then y is he not playing???

But ahmad has better stats than all of them and did better in pakistan cup so he shud be selected. he is one of our best openers ever so far!!!!

In your opnion

 

[#GreenRoars]

so if he is beating dere numbers then y is he not playing???

But ahmad has better stats than all of them and did better in pakistan cup so he shud be selected. he is one of our best openers ever so far!!!!

He is out of the team due to disciplinary issues and Waqar's report.

 

[Monsee]

What he does or does not do in his personal life should not be of anyone's concern and certainly not a criteria for selection....

It def should be when he is called on to have been creating divisions in the team, retweeting anti-coach tweets, doing stuff (like preaching to Dilashan) on and off the field. He has been in trouble since he was 15 years old, has everyone since that time just picked on poor little Shehzad for no reason?

He wants to be back in the team, he will only be allowed on PCB's/team management's terms, don't like it, tough!

 

[Markhor]

How did he do against Dhammika Prasad last year and you want him to open against Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad ?

 

[Sports_Psychologist]

How did he do against Dhammika Prasad last year and you want him to open against Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad ?

It's not only about Ahmed Shehzad it's about we don't have any options , Shan and Hafeez are as likely to fail as him and sami too
so it's better to let it be and whoever can give you a somewhat stand at the start of the innings is enough and it shouldn't be who does or doesn't because all of them are as likely to fail as any, we need to accept that we are dried up when it comes to openers or more like batsmen!!

 

[Zain Zaidi]

Please enough with this mr.attitude let's focus on other openers

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[blue_champion]

Shehzad is a good batsman-agreed.

But is he more talented than Kevin Pietersen and Andrew Symonds?

Clearly he is not dropped here for his on-field performances

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

How did he do against Dhammika Prasad last year and you want him to open against Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad ?

Past is past, he learnt in the Pakistan Cup, and will smash him in future.

 

[Mamoon]

Nothing batsman. [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] he is a worse bottler than Amla so use the same standards to judge everyone. What has he done in international cricket in the past 2 years! I dont care if hes "better than the alternatives because he scored in PSL and some domestic cup." He is a bunny against most international level bowlers. His fans will cry and then afterdhe gets selected for some major tournament, loses us some games then gets dropped, they will cry again. This cycle has become predictable.

All of this is true, but is he better than Masood? Yes he is.

It is not fair or good for Pakistan that Masood is playing this series ahead of him.

 

[Slog]

All of this is true, but is he better than Masood? Yes he is.

It is not fair or good for Pakistan that Masood is playing this series ahead of him.

All evidence points to him being more equipped than Shehzad as far as scoring runs in England is concerned

 

[Slog]

Shehzad might be really bad. He might be really awful. However, nothing in this world can justify the selection of sami aslam and shan masood over him. This is UNJUSTIFIABLE. No matter what angle you look at it.

The only thing that can excuse it is his alleged poor discipline.

Shan Masood performed way better than him in the lash series they played together

 

[Mamoon]

All evidence points to him being more equipped than Shehzad as far as scoring runs in England is concerned

To me he doesn't seem equipped against any team above the level of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe etc.

However, he is a very likable and professional individual and I'll be happy to see him do well.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Shan Masood performed way better than him in the lash series they played together

Way better? Not at all.

Recency bias from your side? Yes, i am afraid.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Way better? Not at all.

Recency bias from your side? Yes, i am afraid.

Hes right. Dont give me numbers. Give me impact. Were talking about the Sri Lanka Test series here. Masood played a better innings than Shehzad has played in his career, fluke or not.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

Hes right. Dont give me numbers. Give me impact. Were talking about the Sri Lanka Test series here. Masood played a better innings than Shehzad has played in his career, fluke or not.

Yes, surely a 194 against the Kiwi bowling attack is nothing in terms of the legendary masood and his innings. Remind me of Shan's over all average, again?

But its useless you see considering prejudice is ingrained in some people's opinion.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Yes, surely a 194 against the Kiwi bowling attack is nothing in terms of the legendary masood and his innings. Remind me of Shan's over all average, again?

But its useless you see considering prejudice is ingrained in some people's opinion.

We arent talking about overall average. Just that series so why are you clutching at straws? And yes Shehzad can never play that kind of innings that Shan played because he is the biggest bottler Ive ever seen under any kind of pressure.

 

[LowKiiSavage]

We arent talking about overall average. Just that series so why are you clutching at straws? And yes Shehzad can never play that kind of innings that Shan played because he is the biggest bottler Ive ever seen under any kind of pressure.

Why arent we? Just because it does not suit your opinion? You are focused on one innings out of the blue and you are accusing me of clutching at straws? Funny.

 

[Slog]

Yes, surely a 194 against the Kiwi bowling attack is nothing in terms of the legendary masood and his innings. Remind me of Shan's over all average, again?

But its useless you see considering prejudice is ingrained in some people's opinion.

yea. Masood's innings was record breaking.

do you actually think the 194>Masood's innings?

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Whatever shortcomings Masood has as a batsman he covers them up with a lot of guts, application and being dope as hell on the mic.

Plus his angrazi is better than Shazzy and does a mean workout session in the Gym. And did i mention he's a CLH as well so.....


Sorry Sheezy Shan wins it hands down.