"Ind became #1 Test side without facing Pak, would love to see them play a Test series" : Dean Jones

[Abdullah719]

"Ind became #1 Test side without facing Pak, would love to see them play a Test series" : Dean Jones

Chennai: Though Dean Jones excelled at Tests and ODIs, he was cut-out for the shorter format. He exhibited flamboyance, faced the fiery pacers of the West Indies head on by dancing down the track and mastered the art of running between the wickets as the former Australian top-order batsman changed the way players approached one-dayers.

In a chat with this newspaper, Jones who is in the city spoke about various issues and put forth suggestions to make ODIs more meaningful.


Bring tri-series back

People don’t just look for cricket to be fillers; it got to have something on it. What I would like to see more is some significance attached to a bilateral series. Otherwise, the mediocrity of these stupid and meaningless one-day bilateral series is not going to help the sport. We need more triangular series. Isn’t fun to have India, Australia and South Africa featuring in a tri-series?


ODI Cup is ultimate

Numbers from TV viewership prove that 50-over World Cup is holding its own in ratings even though T20 is fast catching up. However, we have to make the tournament more compact. I liked it when it was a nine-team affair (in 1992) with everyone playing against each other before the knockout. I personally don’t like to have two divisions, but there is no harm in splitting the teams to improve competition. Sri Lanka haven’t yet qualified for the next edition of the World Cup. If they don’t, they don’t deserve to be there. It’s as simple as that.


Meaningless series

I’m glad the India-Australia series is going to happen because at one stage it never looked possible with Cricket Australia and players embroiled in pay dispute. However, I feel it’s yet another meaningless ODI series. I just hope their rivalry and some interesting characters involved will spice it up. What I admire about the likes of Virat Kohli and Ajinkya Rahane is the element of classic technique associated with their side-on batting. Some of our guys are front-on and their back-lift is bad. They are getting away with all these as they play on flat tracks in Australia these days.


World Test championship

I was telling one of the broadcasters about a plan for the World Test championship. Ten teams have to be divided into two divisions and they play four matches each. If it’s a four-day match with 100 overs a day, the tournament can be done and dusted in 50 days. If a team scores more than 300, you get four batting points. If you get all 10 wickets before 100 overs, you get your bowling points. So teams will be aggressive in their approach. In the mid 90s, county cricket in England had this format when I was playing there. I think the current Futures Tour Programme (FTP) gets over in June 2019. If ICC works out a plan for a World Test championship, three out of every four years we will have a major tournament. That will be good for the sport.


‘Handle’ with care

With the new rules banning big bats, the focus will now shift on handles which remain an uncharted territory. The most important aspect in golf clubs is the shaft. Have you ever wondered how a little guy hits a golf ball effortlessly for 300 metres. Shafts are tailor-made to suit golfers’ hand speed. Some of the big hitters in cricket — Chris Gayle, Kieron Pollard and Andre Russel — already use bats with longer handles. As a result of gripping them high, they get right flexes on the handle. Manufacturers need to use technology and find ways to avoid the handle twisting in your hand under impact.


Hypocrisy overwhelming

I’m a firm believer that there is no such thing called No.1 side in cricket. India became the ‘No.1 Test’ side without facing Pakistan. I would love to see the two teams play in a Test series. In last two-three years, there is so much improvement in Pakistan cricket. The Pakistan Super League has transformed them into a professional unit. The Champions Trophy success can also be attributed to the players who emerged through PSL. Pakistan just have to get their first-class structure right. In recent times, there were quite a few terrorist attacks in Europe including London and sporting events are going on as usual. But teams refuse to travel to Pakistan. The hypocrisy is overwhelming!


Dhoni the best runner

The art of running between the wickets hasn’t improved a bit. I look with keen interest whenever they show replays to check no-ball. Generally, batsmen at the non-striker end look down the pitch, but ideally they should be looking at the bowler side-ways. They also don’t know how to run in straight lines. M.S. Dhoni is the only exception. He not only runs fast, but is also smart in judgment. In the 80s, we felt running between the wickets was very important because the team that scores more singles and twos wins the game. The grounds were bigger and you could even start your third when the fielder prepares to throw. While batting we concentrated on hitting flat. The current generation of cricketers really needs to work on this while playing on bigger grounds.


Get third umpire on ground

They have started checking no-ball after every dismissal. I hate it. It kills the moment and the natural flow of the game. Instead of using the TV replay every time, they can bring in one more umpire into the ground just to check whether the bowler is stepping over the line. These days umpires are missing too many. They can’t see the crease properly as the bowler’s hip comes in the way.


Bowlers not intimidating

Having faced the likes of Patterson, Ambrose, Marshal and Holding, I can confidently say that not many bowlers in current era are intimidating. The standard of bowling has diminished. I don’t see many clocking 150kmph.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/spor...ateral-odi-series-meaningless-dean-jones.html

 

[The Googly]

Agree with everythng he said.

- Bowlers today are not as good as they were

- Agree on India v Pak comments.

- Agree on the hypocricy over travel to Pakistan

 

[Sherlock]

It's like Mayweather v Pacquiao... Mayweather used excuses and insults to ignore fighting Pacquiao.

When the time came it wasn't the same fight as it should've been.

 

[Coconut]

I'm really not sure what message is Mr Jones trying to convey here.

1. No cricket team was attacked by terrorists in any other country.

2. Cricket matches don't take place in countries/places where suicide bombing happens on a consistent basis.

3. No other countries army is fighting an active war with terrorists on its border.

4. Finally, does Mr Jones seriously believe that India isn't no 1 because they haven't played/won a series against a no a 6 ranked team? Really?

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?

It can't get more hilarious than this.

 

[The Googly]

It can't get more hilarious than this.

Yes it can. Your post is even more hilarious. I take it you're not a Pakistan fan?

 

[mak36]

Yes it can. Your post is even more hilarious. I take it you're not a Pakistan fan?

Trust me- it's just how he is. It easier to ignore him.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I'm really not sure what message is Mr Jones trying to convey here.

1. No cricket team was attacked by terrorists in any other country.

2. Cricket matches don't take place in countries/places where suicide bombing happens on a consistent basis.

3. No other countries army is fighting an active war with terrorists on its border.

4. Finally, does Mr Jones seriously believe that India isn't no 1 because they haven't played/won a series against a no a 6 ranked team? Really?

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?

It can't get more hilarious than this.

I generally do not agree with you but in this case i do.

Comparing Europe with Pakistan is laughable.
He just like some test purists on pakpassion have been dreaming about seeing test championship to take place. I wonder what would that brodcaster has to say to Deano in regards to test championship. Outside of 2-3 countries test cricket is pretty much dead. Even BCCI is against Test championship and rightly so. Test championship will be an epic fail for broadcaster and viewers.

 

[NoBallZombie]

I'm really not sure what message is Mr Jones trying to convey here.

1. No cricket team was attacked by terrorists in any other country.

2. Cricket matches don't take place in countries/places where suicide bombing happens on a consistent basis.

3. No other countries army is fighting an active war with terrorists on its border.

4. Finally, does Mr Jones seriously believe that India isn't no 1 because they haven't played/won a series against a no a 6 ranked team? Really?

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?

It can't get more hilarious than this.

You make so much sense! Next time we have a t20 worldcup, lets just get the top 4 teams to play the matches amongst themselves and whoever wins be crowned the champion...... oh and India are 5th

 

[troodon]

Jones doing his best to get Pak coach post.

 

[ManFan]

I'm really not sure what message is Mr Jones trying to convey here.

1. No cricket team was attacked by terrorists in any other country.

2. Cricket matches don't take place in countries/places where suicide bombing happens on a consistent basis.

3. No other countries army is fighting an active war with terrorists on its border.

4. Finally, does Mr Jones seriously believe that India isn't no 1 because they haven't played/won a series against a no a 6 ranked team? Really?

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?

It can't get more hilarious than this.

Doesn't change the fact that both India and Pakistan reached number one test ranking without playing against each other and both teams got whitewashed by Australia in Australia. Furthermore, security in Europe is believed to be a source good as the one Pakistan has provided Zimbabwe in 2015. The imaginary world where Pakistan is getting suicude blasts everyday does not exist anymore. There are probably a few blasts here and there just like those in Brussells and London. You're post is presumptuously bias and steers away form the real issue of why cricket hasn't taken place in Pakistan since 2015. If India and Bangladesh can host T20 World Cups and IPL despite suicide blasts from a few miles from the hotels the visiting players are staying at than why can Pakistan not host players when they will playing in Lahore where as the blasts are mostly taking place in Balochistan.

 

[Sachin136]

Doesn't change the fact that both India and Pakistan reached number one test ranking without playing against each other and both teams got whitewashed by Australia in Australia. Furthermore, security in Europe is believed to be a source good as the one Pakistan has provided Zimbabwe in 2015. The imaginary world where Pakistan is getting suicude blasts everyday does not exist anymore. There are probably a few blasts here and there just like those in Brussells and London. You're post is presumptuously bias and steers away form the real issue of why cricket hasn't taken place in Pakistan since 2015. If India and Bangladesh can host T20 World Cups and IPL despite suicide blasts from a few miles from the hotels the visiting players are staying at than why can Pakistan not host players when they will playing in Lahore where as the blasts are mostly taking place in Balochistan.

India did not get whitewashed in Australia.

Those countries did not have cricket teams targetted in a terrorist attack. Also, India's or Europe's security situation is far better overall than Pakistan.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Another former cricketer not rating today's fast bowlers.

 

[aloo paratha]

Another former cricketer not rating today's fast bowlers.

Look at the fast bowlers he faced in his era, nobody or maybe only 2-3 bowlers are comparable these days.

 

[www787]

Jones doing his best to get Pak coach post.

For stating the truth, India's number position is meaningless without facing Pakistan should be awarded honorary Pakistan coaching job by PCB.

 

[kingusama92]

And PAK earned #1 without facing India.

 

[FreakCricket]

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?

dont be ridiculous zimbabwe and Afg are not top test playing nation!

 

[Coconut]

I generally do not agree with you but in this case i do.

Comparing Europe with Pakistan is laughable.
He just like some test purists on pakpassion have been dreaming about seeing test championship to take place. I wonder what would that brodcaster has to say to Deano in regards to test championship. Outside of 2-3 countries test cricket is pretty much dead. Even BCCI is against Test championship and rightly so. Test championship will be an epic fail for broadcaster and viewers.

Thank you! I always make unbiased post based on actual facts. It really depressed me when I learned that u didn't agree with me before.

 

[Slog]

India currently ARE the best Test side in the world.

Pakistan Test side's best days are behind it

 

[Rightarmfast]

If Dean Jones did say this, its quite unbelievable. Next is what? If Australia become the No1 Test team, will he question them for becoming No 1 without travelling to Pakistan?
Does he question Shane Warne's talent for his non performance against India?

Reminds me of that comment which he made against Muslims by calling Hashim Amla ' A Terrorists' ... Would love to know what all these PP fans who agree with Jones comments about INdia, have to say about the terrorist comment

Definitely someone is fishing for that coach's job

 

[squarecut]

If Dean Jones did say this, its quite unbelievable. Next is what? If Australia become the No1 Test team, will he question them for becoming No 1 without travelling to Pakistan?
Does he question Shane Warne's talent for his non performance against India?

Reminds me of that comment which he made against Muslims by calling Hashim Amla ' A Terrorists' ... Would love to know what all these PP fans who agree with Jones comments about INdia, have to say about the terrorist comment

Definitely someone is fishing for that coach's job

I actually believe that Shane Warne is extremely over rated simply because batsmen of cricketing nations other than India were clueless against him. Had Warne been born in India, he would have struggled to get into the national team.

 

[Usman]

I'm really not sure what message is Mr Jones trying to convey here.

1. No cricket team was attacked by terrorists in any other country.

2. Cricket matches don't take place in countries/places where suicide bombing happens on a consistent basis.

3. No other countries army is fighting an active war with terrorists on its border.

4. Finally, does Mr Jones seriously believe that India isn't no 1 because they haven't played/won a series against a no a 6 ranked team? Really?

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?

It can't get more hilarious than this.

1. That was an extremely long time ago. I think it's time we get over it and appreciate that any touring team will be given Presidential security, like Zimbabwe were given when they toured.

2. Cricket continues in the UK despite several attacks in the last few months alone.

3. Uhhhhh you could say the same about India! Frankly a conflict thousands of miles away has no impact on international cricket played with tight security;

4. Until recently, Pakistan was the number 1 ranked team and much of the shifting in rankings happens because the well funded teams like India, England and Australia play a lot more cricket than others. India for example boosts its already inflated ranking by bashing what is now a minnow Lankan team. England plays South Africa, which then gives England a chance to progress up the rankings. Meanwhile Pakistan plays no one and so through no fault of its own, finds itself slipping in the rankings.

Frankly, many Indians believe their team is far superior to others including Pakistan, and the fact that Pakistan smashed them like some minnow on the biggest stage in years, well that's difficult for most Indians to stomach. Had India played Pakistan in test cricket in recent years, where Pakistan has been by far and away the more balanced team, some of those big egos may have been kept in check.

As far as playing Zimbabwe and Afghanistan is concerned, clearly Deano isn't saying that you must do that to prove your number 1 status. Neither team has been anywhere close to the top of world cricket. Pakistan however in recent times has topped the tables, whilst India has been in hiding, preferring instead to reach their numbet 1 status with some good old Lankan bashing.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

And PAK earned #1 without facing India.

Funny how this is never brought up. When we got number 1 everyone was like "Pakistan deserve it" even though we only got there because an Ind-WI test was drawn because of rain.

When india get to number1 "bb-b-b-b-b-b-b-but they didn't play Pakistan"

This is the real hypocrisy.

 

[The Googly]

Just to clarify why I agreed with Jones's comment about hypocrisy when it comes to visiting Pakistan compared with Europe despite terrorist attacks in Europe. I am not saying that Pakistan is safer. Due to inside and outside influences, Pakistan is clearly going through an unstable period and I am against cricket in Pakistan until we have sorted our house out. Inshallah that will be in a couple of years or so. The hypocrisy is because of the ATTITUDES that other countries and players adopt to visiting Pakistan. Pakistan is automatically adjudged negatively. Yet, India had some issues after the Mumbai blasts and it was kind of papered over. IPL money also helped paper over the issues. Anyway - this is not cricket so I'll say no more on this.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

1. That was an extremely long time ago. I think it's time we get over it and appreciate that any touring team will be given Presidential security, like Zimbabwe were given when they toured.

2. Cricket continues in the UK despite several attacks in the last few months alone.

3. Uhhhhh you could say the same about India! Frankly a conflict thousands of miles away has no impact on international cricket played with tight security;

4. Until recently, Pakistan was the number 1 ranked team and much of the shifting in rankings happens because the well funded teams like India, England and Australia play a lot more cricket than others. India for example boosts its already inflated ranking by bashing what is now a minnow Lankan team. England plays South Africa, which then gives England a chance to progress up the rankings. Meanwhile Pakistan plays no one and so through no fault of its own, finds itself slipping in the rankings.

Frankly, many Indians believe their team is far superior to others including Pakistan, and the fact that Pakistan smashed them like some minnow on the biggest stage in years, well that's difficult for most Indians to stomach. Had India played Pakistan in test cricket in recent years, where Pakistan has been by far and away the more balanced team, some of those big egos may have been kept in check.

As far as playing Zimbabwe and Afghanistan is concerned, clearly Deano isn't saying that you must do that to prove your number 1 status. Neither team has been anywhere close to the top of world cricket. Pakistan however in recent times has topped the tables, whilst India has been in hiding, preferring instead to reach their numbet 1 status with some good old Lankan bashing.

So much nonsense in this post.

1) First of all, saying it was a long time ago is pointless. It was 8 years which in the test cricket cycle is not long. Unless the situation shows marked improvement we cannot continue to cry about this. What happened to SL in 09 was disgraceful and that, combined with the fact that we've earned the reputation of a terrorist harbour (whether deserved or not is irrelevant) is why teams don't tour. No other test country has this reputation. It's unfortunate but factual.

2) No attacks on cricketers, barely any terrorists have domestic bases of operation or headquarters. So irrelevant

3) Again, India does not have the reputation of a terrorist harbour since most of the attacks there are from foreign threats.

4)

Until recently, Pakistan was the number 1 ranked team and much of the shifting in rankings happens because the well funded teams like India, England and Australia play a lot more cricket than others.

We only reached number 1 because India and WI drew a rain affacted match. We did not deserve the ranking even though we were good.

India for example boosts its already inflated ranking by bashing what is now a minnow Lankan team.

Again, this is utterly misinformed garbage. Playing a team low in the rankings HURTS INDIA! They are so far ahead in the table that they LOSE POINTS unless they whitewash SL 3-0. This system, again is why Pak got to number 1. The drawn test in WI and a drawn test in Bangladesh (both due to rain) affected India and cost them a lot of points. The idea that they play minnows to get more points is utterly stupid and false.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

Just to clarify why I agreed with Jones's comment about hypocrisy when it comes to visiting Pakistan compared with Europe despite terrorist attacks in Europe. I am not saying that Pakistan is safer. Due to inside and outside influences, Pakistan is clearly going through an unstable period and I am against cricket in Pakistan until we have sorted our house out. Inshallah that will be in a couple of years or so. The hypocrisy is because of the ATTITUDES that other countries and players adopt to visiting Pakistan. Pakistan is automatically adjudged negatively. Yet, India had some issues after the Mumbai blasts and it was kind of papered over. IPL money also helped paper over the issues. Anyway - this is not cricket so I'll say no more on this.

Dude, regardless of your what you said, you have to admit India is more stable. We need to admit this to repair the situation.

 

[The Googly]

Dude, regardless of your what you said, you have to admit India is more stable. We need to admit this to repair the situation.

Agreed. I am not in denial of this at all. Of course India has more stability currently. Of course there are a multitude of major problems for Pakistan to resolve. This does not change the fact that attitudes towards Pakistan from other countries are not always reflective of the facts or applied equally.

 

[gani999]

4. Finally, does Mr Jones seriously believe that India isn't no 1 because they haven't played/won a series against a no a 6 ranked team? Really?

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?
.

You seriously don't believe that Pakistan is in the same league as Afghanistan or Zimbabwe, do you?

In that case, nobody has played a bilateral series with these two, so none of the teams deserve their ranks, India included

 

[Hasan123]

It would be a good series if it was too happen.

 

[Sachin136]

You seriously don't believe that Pakistan is in the same league as Afghanistan or Zimbabwe, do you?

In that case, nobody has played a bilateral series with these two, so none of the teams deserve their ranks, India included

That is exactly his point. There's no need for a team to have played against every other test playing nation before being called the best team in the world.

 

[Buffet]

Funny how this is never brought up. When we got number 1 everyone was like "Pakistan deserve it" even though we only got there because an Ind-WI test was drawn because of rain.

When india get to number1 "bb-b-b-b-b-b-b-but they didn't play Pakistan"

This is the real hypocrisy.

If you hold rank 1 for few weeks , not many are going to scrutinize it. If you hold rank for many years then you will face lots of scrutiny. Not sure how long both countries have held it , but just making a general point.

 

[Monsee]

A team gets to become Number 1 in Tests after having had zilch to show for in Australia, England, NZ, and SA for last what 8-10 years now; 1-2 victories against them combined in numerous matches when playing away from the 'Patta' wickets of India!

And their fans puff up their chests only 1 1/2 months after they got humiliated (worst in their history) in an ICC final, lovely

 

[CanadianG00se]

A team gets to become Number 1 in Tests after having had zilch to show for in Australia, England, NZ, and SA for last what 8-10 years now; 1-2 victories against them combined in numerous matches when playing away from the 'Patta' wickets of India!

And their fans puff up their chests only 1 1/2 months after they got humiliated (worst in their history) in an ICC final, lovely

Im guessing Pakistani fans will gloat about ICC champions trophy till they win something in future. Well i dont blame you guys, Pakistan hardly win on big stages and when you guys do its normal to gloat about. The Indian team which u making fun of has the best win/loss ratio in ICC events in this decade. India is only team to reach finals of ICC events more than anyone else in this decade and also have won more trophies. On top of that we also hold test mace(will be holding it for very long time IA)

Its funny how some fans make fun of Indian team losing final, it just shows that how most fans including neutrals also expect nothing less than winning a trophy.
Anyways, India have drew series in Australia and won few test matches here and there. India also have won series in England and drew in South Africa, but hey we are still scruitinised by Pakistani fans who themselves have no better record in South Africa/Australia.

Anyways I do expect next series with South Africa will be Kohli's biggest challenge and Im looking forward to it dearly.

 

[asfandyar]

India did not get whitewashed in Australia.

Those countries did not have cricket teams targetted in a terrorist attack. Also, India's or Europe's security situation is far better overall than Pakistan.

What people don't understand is that the bolded argument will remain true even after 100 years or even 1000 years. What you are suggesting here is that effectively, cricket should never return to Pakistan which obviously means nothing coming from someone who is watching from the sidelines, eating popcorn and picking his nose while fans from Pakistan are hypocritically deprived of one of their basic cricketing rights.

The attack on Sri lankan cricket team occurred in 2009. By that logic, should we also use the excuse of the mutiny of 1857 against cricket in India, or has the hypocrisy become evident now?

 

[Cricfan4eva]

The difference being, right after terrorist attack CT was held, Women's world cup was held without any incident. Trust on England's security wasn't compromised.

In Pakistan's case, SL team bus was attacked, players were lucky to have been hit and survived the attack. How is it even comparable is beyond me.

I do get frustration coming from Pakistan's side and you may not like what I have to say ahead but I feel its just how things are at this moment for you guys. The onus is on you to prove to World you are safe. And after what happened you can't complain if no one wants to be the guinea pig to prove Pakistan is safe again. You have to patient, till somebody agrees.

Moreover Pakistan has done little to take the small steps. With PCB's ego skyhigh, instead of wooe-ing Afghanistan and Bangladesh further they distanced them further with trash talks and demands for apology.

Honestly out of all the international countries, only these two are your best shot to get the ball rolling. And again it is on you to convince them, they don't owe you anything.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

A team gets to become Number 1 in Tests after having had zilch to show for in Australia, England, NZ, and SA for last what 8-10 years now; 1-2 victories against them combined in numerous matches when playing away from the 'Patta' wickets of India!

And their fans puff up their chests only 1 1/2 months after they got humiliated (worst in their history) in an ICC final, lovely

I know this post is in jest but that is how rankings are for everyone right. It treats home and away season equally. So while India may not be held in high regard as the Aus of 07 or WI of 80s or SA few years back. They clearly are one of the best teams going around.

Who else can lay stake to no.1? England? They didn't manage to win a single test in India, while India while losing 3 tests miserably managed to win at Lords. SA? The only way they are going is down with Amla declining and Faf not in best of forms. Australia? again, they fought well in India but they are pretty much similar to us when it comes to performing in unfamiliar conditions.

So on the basis of form India is clearly better than the rest.

Also didn't Pak reach no.1 despite drawing a series in Zimbabwe and no away victories?

 

[hadi123]

Funny how this is never brought up. When we got number 1 everyone was like "Pakistan deserve it" even though we only got there because an Ind-WI test was drawn because of rain.

When india get to number1 "bb-b-b-b-b-b-b-but they didn't play Pakistan"

This is the real hypocrisy.

Yes, but Pakistan got to number 1 after drawing a series IN England 2-2, which is a very good achievement especially as we don't have cricket in Pakistan, whereas India being number 1 is due to them thrashing average teams at home where pitches suit India a lot. Real test will be when India go on tough away tours then we will see if they deserve number 1 or not.

 

[Haz95]

Bowlers not intimidating

Having faced the likes of Patterson, Ambrose, Marshal and Holding, I can confidently say that not many bowlers in current era are intimidating. The standard of bowling has diminished. I don’t see many clocking 150kmph.

This may not bode well with some 'experts'. Oops .

 

[Stewie]

I'm really not sure what message is Mr Jones trying to convey here.

1. No cricket team was attacked by terrorists in any other country.

2. Cricket matches don't take place in countries/places where suicide bombing happens on a consistent basis.

3. No other countries army is fighting an active war with terrorists on its border.

4. Finally, does Mr Jones seriously believe that India isn't no 1 because they haven't played/won a series against a no a 6 ranked team? Really?

Then what about other lower ranked team like Zimbabwe or Afghanistan? Many countries don't play test against them. Does that mean no country will ever be considered as no 1 test team unless they win a series against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan?

It can't get more hilarious than this.

Terrorists are actively attacking England and parts of Europe as well. But our inferiority complex ridden desi Indians will be the first ones to jump to their support and go play cricket there to display solidarity. Same thIng with other white nations.

You only see this sort of attitude with non white and non Christian nations of the world. What happens to the notion of expressing solidarity with victims of terrorism?

This world is full of hypocrisy

 

[Usman]

So much nonsense in this post.

1) First of all, saying it was a long time ago is pointless. It was 8 years which in the test cricket cycle is not long. Unless the situation shows marked improvement we cannot continue to cry about this. What happened to SL in 09 was disgraceful and that, combined with the fact that we've earned the reputation of a terrorist harbour (whether deserved or not is irrelevant) is why teams don't tour. No other test country has this reputation. It's unfortunate but factual.

2) No attacks on cricketers, barely any terrorists have domestic bases of operation or headquarters. So irrelevant

3) Again, India does not have the reputation of a terrorist harbour since most of the attacks there are from foreign threats.

4)



We only reached number 1 because India and WI drew a rain affacted match. We did not deserve the ranking even though we were good.



Again, this is utterly misinformed garbage. Playing a team low in the rankings HURTS INDIA! They are so far ahead in the table that they LOSE POINTS unless they whitewash SL 3-0. This system, again is why Pak got to number 1. The drawn test in WI and a drawn test in Bangladesh (both due to rain) affected India and cost them a lot of points. The idea that they play minnows to get more points is utterly stupid and false.

So much nonsense in this post.

1) First of all, saying it was a long time ago is pointless. It was 8 years which in the test cricket cycle is not long. Unless the situation shows marked improvement we cannot continue to cry about this. What happened to SL in 09 was disgraceful and that, combined with the fact that we've earned the reputation of a terrorist harbour (whether deserved or not is irrelevant) is why teams don't tour. No other test country has this reputation. It's unfortunate but factual.

2) No attacks on cricketers, barely any terrorists have domestic bases of operation or headquarters. So irrelevant

3) Again, India does not have the reputation of a terrorist harbour since most of the attacks there are from foreign threats.

4)



We only reached number 1 because India and WI drew a rain affacted match. We did not deserve the ranking even though we were good.



Again, this is utterly misinformed garbage. Playing a team low in the rankings HURTS INDIA! They are so far ahead in the table that they LOSE POINTS unless they whitewash SL 3-0. This system, again is why Pak got to number 1. The drawn test in WI and a drawn test in Bangladesh (both due to rain) affected India and cost them a lot of points. The idea that they play minnows to get more points is utterly stupid and false.

You are quite clearly an Indian pretending to be a Pakistani fan. No true Pakistani fan would have a totally unfounded and biased view towards another team, let alone India.

1. I agree that what happened to Sri Lanka was disgraceful and utterly unacceptable. However, that was 8 years ago. You might not think that's a long time to get over a terrorist incident but most people get over it much sooner. When it happens in London, I and most people say we won't let the terrorists win, we will carry on with our daily lives. After after a few weeks, people stop talking about it and everyone moves on. The reality is that the attack in 08 is used by people as an excuse because most cricketers don't see any attraction to Pakistan - no money, no partying, nothing to do - that is how cricketers view it. If Pakistan had the wealth of your nation (India), none of this would be a problem and the 08 attack would have been long forgotten.

2. Terrorist attacks ars terrorist attacks, so what exactly is the relevance of whether the terrorist groups are headquartered here? A non point. In any case, most western terrorists are home grown and inspired by (rather than being a part of) a group such as Isis.

3. There are plenty of militant terrorist groups founded in India, some of whom hage made direct threats to attack international cricket in India (Shiv Sena). So again, totally inaccurate point.

4. My team got to number 1 because we defeated world class teams such as England and Australia. Sure we might have reached number 1 after a result elsewhere, but that is only relevant to the timing of when we were number 1. We progressed up the table due to outstanding results.

5. Playing minnow teams such as Lanka does nothing but inflate the averages of your overrated batsmen in helpful batting conditions against poor bowling and gain your team worthless extra points. It doesn't matter if you have to defeat them 3-0 - they ars so far behind that achieving this is no big achievement.

 

[Leo23]

this is not dean jones but psl money that is talking

india do not have to play pakistan to become number 1 and neither did pakistan needed to play india to become number 1 last year

i don't recall anyone complaining at that time?

lets be consistent

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

You are quite clearly an Indian pretending to be a Pakistani fan. No true Pakistani fan would have a totally unfounded and biased view towards another team, let alone India.

You don't like my argument so obviously I must not be Pakistani How childish

 

[English August]

Terrorists are actively attacking England and parts of Europe as well. But our inferiority complex ridden desi Indians will be the first ones to jump to their support and go play cricket there to display solidarity. Same thIng with other white nations.

You only see this sort of attitude with non white and non Christian nations of the world. What happens to the notion of expressing solidarity with victims of terrorism?

This world is full of hypocrisy

Factually incorrect. In one of the most notable examples of expressing solidarity with a nation that has suffered a terrible terrorist attack, England came back to India in 2008 to complete the Test series right after the Mumbai attack.

So, in your fantasy world, perhaps it's the English that have inferiority complex?

In reality, people who somehow find equivalence between terrorist attacks in India/UK/Europe vs. those in Pakistan have no idea what they're talking about. Yes, there have been terrorist attacks in India and UK, but that hasn't led to breakdown in general law-and-order situation, and people still have faith in the integrity of the law enforcement mechanism.

 

[Usman]

You don't like my argument so obviously I must not be Pakistani How childish

Glad to see you have no response to my counter-argument, showing just how ridiculous your arguments have been.

Been here for years and seen plenty of Indians pretending to be Pakistanis, to make themselves feel better and give themselves some weird ego boost. So yes, I have seen your game all before.

 

[asfandyar]

this is not dean jones but psl money that is talking

india do not have to play pakistan to become number 1 and neither did pakistan needed to play india to become number 1 last year

i don't recall anyone complaining at that time?

lets be consistent

Complain is the wrong word to use here, and the reason why you don't recall anyone doing so. Pakistani fans have long yearned for their team to play their Indian counterparts. This yearning grew even more intense when Pakistan became number 1, and fans felt there was something missing there despite all the glory. Indian fans on the other hand are arrogant, complacent and content just to be number one, as being top seems to be more important for them than a fair competition. Although Pakistan vs India is still their favorite encounter, their arrogance often eclipses their yearnings, which is an unfortunate bane associated with their board being largely irrelevant in the 80s and 90s, and suddenly getting acclaim and finances 2000 onward. A metaphor to describe this mentality is Sri Devi's role in the film "judai" starring Anil Kapoor and Urmila

 

[ManFan]

They lost 2-0 in the 4 match test series in 2015-2016. And Bangladeshi bus was targeted but the fans hit the WI bus with rocks a few years ago. Furthermore, the Mumbai terrorist attacks occurred the same time England was visiting. Yet they did not cancel the tour despite not wanting to be there. It all comes down to economics. India and England have more control and money therefore they can get away with such events. But as soon as a generator loses power in Pakistan, uh-oh, terrorism is running wild in Pakistan. Call the Commandos! Pakistan deserves no cricket for letting the SL team get attacked. But in my opinion, after it has provided a visiting foreign team for a tour maximum security in 2015 and than held the PSL Final in 2017, it showed Pakistan is a safe place to play cricket.