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India [195/4] defeat Australia [194/5] by 6 wickets to clinch T20 series

Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Few days ago there was a discussion going on between Indian and Pakistani posters regarding fast bowlers where Deepak Chahar was the center of attraction. As always some of my fellow indian fans were overhyping him. Now suddenly he is a C grade bowler for them. He has taken 18 wickets in 11 matches with an average of 15 and economy of 7. I would like how many A grade bowlers India has produced in T20 or ODI cricket? :inti
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I never rate trundlers sorry. Deepak would never get picked even as a C grade bowler. He is in the team sure. Not based on merit offcourse. He has connections. He is Punjabi after all.
 
tyron_woodley said:
I never rate trundlers sorry. Deepak would never get picked even as a C grade bowler. He is in the team sure. Not based on merit offcourse. He has connections. He is Punjabi after all.
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He’s not a Punjabi. And since when did Punjabis start having connections in BCCI?
 
BreadPakoda said:
He’s not a Punjabi. And since when did Punjabis start having connections in BCCI?
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Since when they din't ? Kohli is Punjabi.
Kohli has his group
Shastri has his own groupie
Then you have board members with their favourites.

3 types of quotas. Chahar is definitely playing cause he has some sort of connections.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
So you are ignoring his stats in T20's now? :inti
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I always never rated him at all. I never rate trundlers. I don't care how good his stats are. At the end of the day if you cant bowl a bouncer at decent pace and have a set of skills that are international standard then you are never going to be good enough.
 
tyron_woodley said:
Since when they din't ? Kohli is Punjabi.
Kohli has his group
Shastri has his own groupie
Then you have board members with their favourites.

3 types of quotas. Chahar is definitely playing cause he has some sort of connections.
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Firstly, Chahar was born in Agra. Plays for Rajasthan in domestic. What are you on?
 
Aus can't win from here, India would have to deliberately play to lose. Going to watch some womens BBL which is better quality than this C grade stuff.
 
Romali_rotti said:
This performance is just about what to be expected with these C grade Indian bowlers..
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Who stopped Bumrah and Shami from playing in this match? As long as they are in the squad you can't give this excuse. If they can play 2 months of IPL then why can't they play each and every match for India? :inti
 
I agree, maybe in full-strength team, there will be Bumrah, Shami, Jadeja in the place of Chahar, Thakur and Sundar/Natarajan. But I it can't be an excuse. The pitch is a belter, but the line and length bowled was terrible. I am disappointed more with the fielding effort. Kohli :facepalm:

Romali_rotti said:
This performance is just about what to be expected with these C grade Indian bowlers..
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McGrath just called Thakur an intelligent bowler.
 
I wonder why they aren't playing this match when they are anyway not playing the practice tour test

Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Who stopped Bumrah and Shami from playing in this match? As long as they are in the squad you can't give this excuse. If they can play 2 months of IPL then why can't they play each and every match for India? :inti
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jeeteshssaxena said:
Rohit
Bumrah
Shami
Bhuvi
Jadeja
That is 5 out of 11 players. :yk
While Australia is missing
Starc
Warner
Cummins
Bumrah is a better t20 bowler than all of them and Rohit is as good as Warner if not better.
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Yes Finch with his over 40 average and SR over 150 and being captain of the team doesn't count.
Hazlewood also doesn't count.
You are being as great as ever!
 
Mobashir said:
Yes Finch with his over 40 average and SR over 150 and being captain of the team doesn't count.
Hazlewood also doesn't count.
You are being as great as ever!
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Hazelwood has done? In T20. He was atrocious in IPl.
He is a good test bowler in Sena condtions specially and he is good in Sena for odi. He was never good anywhere else.
 
Such change in fortunes for Chahal. Tbh he’s been in poor form all throughout this tour.

Wish we had Jadeja today. :yk
 
Mobashir said:
Yes Finch with his over 40 average and SR over 150 and being captain of the team doesn't count.
Hazlewood also doesn't count.
You are being as great as ever!
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Hazelwood played his first t20 after three years i think
Also he has played a total of 9 t20s
Avg 37 econ 9
:yk
You are right about Finch though.
But its still 4 to 5
Our squad is weaker but still we are winning.
 
20 runs off the chess wizard’s over. Maybe he’s missing Dhoni’s guidance from behind the stumps. :yk
 
tyron_woodley said:
Hazelwood has done? In T20. He was atrocious in IPl.
He is a good test bowler in Sena condtions specially and he is good in Sena for odi. He was never good anywhere else.
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T20 is not his best format but still he is a first choice for Australia in every format. His new ball bowling will be good anywhere in any format.
Australia are not the australian side of the past, their stocks seems limited i Limited overs bowling.
Every team needs about 6 good fast bowlers I think.
Don't knowwhere is Jyhe Richardson? Pattinson is there but they play him only in Tests.
 
Australians definitely taking their anger out on Chahal today.
Natarjan looks like a good prospect for LOIs.
Thakur bowled decently today. Few deliveries touched 140s. Don't know why everyone's hating him.
 
There are also many South Indians in the team, don't you think?

tyron_woodley said:
Since when they din't ? Kohli is Punjabi.
Kohli has his group
Shastri has his own groupie
Then you have board members with their favourites.

3 types of quotas. Chahar is definitely playing cause he has some sort of connections.
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17.5
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Chahal to Smith, OUT
SPD Smith c Pandya b Chahal 39 (36b 3x4 1x6) SR: 108.33
17.4
6
Chahal to Henriques, SIX runs
Lofted straight over the bowler. Good length and dipping on middle stump. Not to the pitch of this but goes through with quick hands
 
PakPremi said:
Smith miserable inning over
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How is that miserable? What are you expecting. He is not a power hitter. He may have had a few top knocks here and there in odi but he never had a power game. His power game works sometimes but it usually only happens in Australia Pattas.

Smith did well today. He performed. I don't know why people criticize Smith.
 
tyron_woodley said:
How is that miserable? What are you expecting. He is not a power hitter. He may have had a few top knocks here and there in odi but he never had a power game. His power game works sometimes but it usually only happens in Australia Pattas.

Smith did well today. He performed. I don't know why people criticize Smith.
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He mishit atleast 50 percent of his shots and at times looked like a tailender. Apart from few good shots most runs were streaky.
 
Natarjan could be the difference today. Indian batting lineup is pretty good.
Stoinis should have opened ahead of Short today.
 
sharmaji said:
There are also many South Indians in the team, don't you think?
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How many south Indians play tests?
Kohli obviously picks his favourites.
Management also had theirs. I made a mistake. People complain about Mumbai having so much power then how come Ishan and suryakmuar Yadav never get a go? Quality players In India are rotting on the bench because of petty grudges and selection quotas.
 
tyron_woodley said:
How is that miserable? What are you expecting. He is not a power hitter. He may have had a few top knocks here and there in odi but he never had a power game. His power game works sometimes but it usually only happens in Australia Pattas.

Smith did well today. He performed. I don't know why people criticize Smith.
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Looked extremely scratchy today. Agree that t20s might not be his best format but he never looked comfortable today. A bit like Kohli's inning against Pak in WC19. Kohli ended up scoring 70something at a good strike rate but he really scratchy that day.
 
Such a low quality match.

They don’t produce cr@p like this for IPL games
 
OMG this Aus batting is terrible, they should be destroying the C grade Indian bowlers..
 
As much as I like Pandya the batsman, he’s such a drama queen as a fielder...
 
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Amazing presence of mind from VK
 
Rana said:
Such a low quality match.

They don’t produce cr@p like this for IPL games
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That’s why T20 should just be a franchisee sport. If two top teams are playing so atrociously, imagine the level of non top-3 teams.
 
I just joined the thread, can someone explain to me why the IPL superstars are being called C grade bowlers by the Indians?
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
IPL superstar Chahar 48 from 4 lol :inti
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Death of chahar's T20 career. Man I know when a player is good and I know when a player is trash. He is trash.
Chahal is also trash outside T20.

I have watched and played enough cricket at quite a high level in Queensland to discern a player's ability.

Shardul btw has actually improved imo. I can't believe I am saying this but he is actually not a bad option at all for depth as he can bat provided he is supported by pandya and our frontline Bowlers. Shardul has improved. I just can't fathom how but he really hasm credit where credit is due.
 
PakPremi said:
Team with no Finch and Warner they done very well, even though Smith wasted lots of balls he should have scored better.
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Exactly 194 is a super total. Hoping for a super over loool.

Indian C grade bowler chahar may have cost the game. Chahal imo is a C grade bowler outside India but each to their own

Chahal is only good at T20 anyway.
 
Yeah, Mumbai doesn't seem to enjoy the favour anymore. I know someone who works in IPL (runs the operations of a franchise) who tells me there are always groupings in the team, with Mumbai, North India and South India being the major blocks and since Dhoni, it has changed, where everyone now has to speak Hindi and North India (under Dhoni and Kohli) seems to be in control. Having said that, he said that it isn't as political as it used to be, and while there are biases, performance matters more now.

tyron_woodley said:
How many south Indians play tests?
Kohli obviously picks his favourites.
Management also had theirs. I made a mistake. People complain about Mumbai having so much power then how come Ishan and suryakmuar Yadav never get a go? Quality players In India are rotting on the bench because of petty grudges and selection quotas.
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tyron_woodley said:
Death of chahar's T20 career. Man I know when a player is good and I know when a player is trash. He is trash.
Chahal is also trash outside T20.

I have watched and played enough cricket at quite a high level in Queensland to discern a player's ability.

Shardul btw has actually improved imo. I can't believe I am saying this but he is actually not a bad option at all for depth as he can bat provided he is supported by pandya and our frontline Bowlers. Shardul has improved. I just can't fathom how but he really hasm credit where credit is due.
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What’s the best Indian bowling lineup in T20s?

Something like this?

Mohammad Shami
Jasprit Bumrah
T Natarajan
Hardik Pandya
Yuzvendra Chahal
Ravindra Jadeja

Who are the best bench fast bowlers in your opinion? Say Bumrah gets injured, who comes in? Who’s the second choice? Third choice?

I thought there were a lot of good choices based on that thread on IPL domestic bowlers quality (not trolling, just seriously want to know who)
 
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