India [252] beat Australia [202] by 50 runs in the 2nd ODI, lead series 2-0

[sachin100]

Rahul, jhadav, pandey are not taking their chances given to them.

At the moment indian batting is only top heavy with unsettled middle order and not so good lower order.

Indian team still needs good middle order batsman to become a top team

 

[sachin100]

An Indian win always brings out the best of some posters who try hard to discredit India's win.

There is always a question mark on indian performance when ever it wins. U cannot change some people. Let them be like that

 

[King Kong]

We should persist with Pandey come what may. He has got temperament and has no glaring weakness against pace or spin. Scored 100 in Australia and won the series in South Africa with A-team single-handedly. He may not be a match-winner, but someone who is a perfect partner for Kohli. I'd replace Jadhav though. Sure, he's got great stats as of now, but not someone who you can rely on when the going gets tough. I'd like to see Rahul being given a decent run in the middle order.

 

[sachin100]

We should persist with Pandey come what may. He has got temperament and has no glaring weakness against pace or spin. Scored 100 in Australia and won the series in South Africa with A-team single-handedly. He may not be a match-winner, but someone who is a perfect partner for Kohli. I'd replace Jadhav though. Sure, he's got great stats as of now, but not someone who you can rely on when the going gets tough. I'd like to see Rahul being given a decent run in the middle order.

Pandey has starting problems. Most of his innings are single figure failures and he gets out to silly shots.

He doesn't look to settle at all. He is too lose to depend regularly. He doesn't have a method to score runs. He tries fancy and cute shots not needed

 

[Mp812]

We should persist with Pandey come what may. He has got temperament and has no glaring weakness against pace or spin. Scored 100 in Australia and won the series in South Africa with A-team single-handedly. He may not be a match-winner, but someone who is a perfect partner for Kohli. I'd replace Jadhav though. Sure, he's got great stats as of now, but not someone who you can rely on when the going gets tough. I'd like to see Rahul being given a decent run in the middle order.

Manish Pandey should be persisted.He may not be match winner on his own but he can be a solid support guy to Kohli, Rohit and Pandya when they get into hitting mode. Pandey can score consistently score 50s or 70s at 100+ strikerate eventhough currently he is failing but i am sure its temporary.
I see Pandey more of in SriLankas Marvan Attapatu type role around whom Jayasuria,Desilva and other prospered.

Jadhavs blue patch seems over and it would be good idea to try Krunal Pandya his place.
Krunal played some good innings with ball and bat in MI IPL win and he could be answer to Indias need of spinner allrounder just like his brother who is slowly becoming a reliable semaer allrounder.
Both Pandya's, between them if they could bowl 15 economical overs with couple of wickets...India can play two fulltime spinners and 2 seamers and have a 6 man bowling attack.

 

[JaDed]

Kohli struggles to accelerate against complete attacks and this isn't even Australia's best. It was the same case when South Africa came over. This is where AB has the edge. Literally no bowler can tie him down when he's in because he's the more gifted striker of the ball. Probably only second to Richards in history.

Yes but gets himself run out in important matches.

 

[JaDed]

PKL recently outdid Cricket in TV viewings.May be finally Indians are realizing there are more sports outside cricket

PKL is packaged amazingly for TV audience,would say even better than IPL.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Like they did in test match in Hyderabad? 2

I think he meant that Bangladesh is very hard to beat in Bangladesh

 

[Dingolfy]

PKL is packaged amazingly for TV audience,would say even better than IPL.

Yes, it will soon surpass IPL if it could maintain the current surge.Kabaddi is a rural sport played all over India from Kashmir to Kerala and they have packaged that attractively.And the players are taller, stronger and faster than cricketers and the game itself is short and aggressive. I hope it it breaks cricket's strong-hold over India and challenge BCCI to do something to make our team exciting.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Yes, it will soon surpass IPL if it could maintain the current surge.Kabaddi is a rural sport played all over India from Kashmir to Kerala and they have packaged that attractively.And the players are taller, stronger and faster than cricketers and the game itself is short and aggressive. I hope it it breaks cricket's strong-hold over India and challenge BCCI to do something to make our team exciting.

umm did you just say surpass IPL?

 

[Dingolfy]

umm did you just say surpass IPL?

Yes, it could.It has all the traits for that.For example, ISL generate more buzz in my state Kerala than IPL.I myself have found IPL boring after 2009, now only see recorded clips of any new Indian fast bowlers such as our boy Thampi in the last edition.Kabaddi is more athletic and aggressive than IPL and players are much bigger and stronger making it much attractive spectacle IMO.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Yes, it could.It has all the traits for that.For example, ISL generate more buzz in my state Kerala than IPL.I myself have found IPL boring after 2009, now only see recorded clips of any new Indian fast bowlers such as our boy Thampi in the last edition.Kabaddi is more athletic and aggressive than IPL and players are much bigger and stronger making it much attractive spectacle IMO.

Do you realize IPL just sold its rights for 2.5 billion freaking dollars for 5 years? Good luck surpassing IPL

 

[CanadianG00se]

I think he meant that Bangladesh is very hard to beat in Bangladesh

Im sure he meant pushing India in India, which is factually incorrect. Bangladesh have never competed well against India in India except for that one T20 match.

 

[Dingolfy]

If you look at Indian sport history, football used to very popular in many states now under the grip of cricket.It is just that our 1983 victory changed everything and that is still one sport where we win something at international level.But that is slowly changing.

 

[Abhilash93]

And Dhawan, Shami, Ashwin and Jadeja are not in the XI !

 

[ToeCrusher2]

And Dhawan, Shami, Ashwin and Jadeja are not in the XI !

Ashwin doesn't deserve to be in the ODI XI in the first place

 

[CanadianG00se]

Yes, it could.It has all the traits for that.For example, ISL generate more buzz in my state Kerala than IPL.I myself have found IPL boring after 2009, now only see recorded clips of any new Indian fast bowlers such as our boy Thampi in the last edition.Kabaddi is more athletic and aggressive than IPL and players are much bigger and stronger making it much attractive spectacle IMO.

Kerala is not India.

Kerala have been traditionally football fans and wouldn't be surprised if trend continues. Football or for that matter Kabaddi will never ever surpass cricket. European Football is popular among urban kids, and if u ask them about local I-league hardly anyone will even know the names of club.

Kabaddi requires strong physics, not sure why would you compare physics of kabaddi players with cricket. In cricket players need to be lean in order to perform with high intensity for longer hours. Muscular built athletes cannot keep up with for such long hours which is why you see Kohli is working on building stamina and staying lean rather than putting on muscles. Kabaddi is pretty much non existent in Mumbai, cricket is ruling in Mumbai. Every streets, corner, apartments you'll see kids playing cricket. Its prematured to suggest that Kabaddi league will overthrow IPL considering the latter has just managed to break all records in cricketing history with new broadcasting deals.

Comeback to me when an average Indian celebrates the worldcup victory in Kabaddi with same joy and passion as they did for Cricket worldcup in 2011. Until then, Cricket will be undisputed#1 sport in India.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

It will be 4-1 or 5-0.

 

[akki]

Kerala is not India.

Kerala have been traditionally football fans and wouldn't be surprised if trend continues. Football or for that matter Kabaddi will never ever surpass cricket. European Football is popular among urban kids, and if u ask them about local I-league hardly anyone will even know the names of club.

Kabaddi requires strong physics, not sure why would you compare physics of kabaddi players with cricket. In cricket players need to be lean in order to perform with high intensity for longer hours. Muscular built athletes cannot keep up with for such long hours which is why you see Kohli is working on building stamina and staying lean rather than putting on muscles. Kabaddi is pretty much non existent in Mumbai, cricket is ruling in Mumbai. Every streets, corner, apartments you'll see kids playing cricket. Its prematured to suggest that Kabaddi league will overthrow IPL considering the latter has just managed to break all records in cricketing history with new broadcasting deals.

Comeback to me when an average Indian celebrates the worldcup victory in Kabaddi with same joy and passion as they did for Cricket worldcup in 2011. Until then, Cricket will be undisputed#1 sport in India.

kabaddi 11 players are almost punjab 11 team, same with hockey as well, these two sports have allmost all the players from punjab.

 

[CanadianG00se]

kabaddi 11 players are almost punjab 11 team, same with hockey as well, these two sports have allmost all the players from punjab.

Kabaddi have players from Punjab, Himachal, Haryana, UP, and Bihar. People in metros may prefer to watch pro kabaddi but they would never chose Kabaddi as career. Maybe it will change 15-20 years down the line when even Kabaddi will fetch multi million dollar deal for players and it will have a proper year long league where a team will need to have more roster. Kabaddi is like NFL(American league) where it is completely dominated by local players and doesn't rely on foreign talent.

But for now like i mentioned, Cricket is truly universal sport in India.

 

[Dingolfy]

kabaddi 11 players are almost punjab 11 team, same with hockey as well, these two sports have allmost all the players from punjab.

You might have seen circle-style kabaddi which is mostly played in Punjab.Pro-Kabaddi has players from all over India and Haryanvis outnumber everybody else.Hockey has Kannadigas,Odiyas,Manipuris and many more.

 

[CricFan2012]

There is always a question mark on indian performance when ever it wins. U cannot change some people. Let them be like that

shameful, who are the biased posters who do that? nothing worse than bias, and unfair people.

 

[JaDed]

Yes, it will soon surpass IPL if it could maintain the current surge.Kabaddi is a rural sport played all over India from Kashmir to Kerala and they have packaged that attractively.And the players are taller, stronger and faster than cricketers and the game itself is short and aggressive. I hope it it breaks cricket's strong-hold over India and challenge BCCI to do something to make our team exciting.

Erm no,maybe in 20-30 years,but its defn brought a lot of interest among other sports fans,not close to the fans of cricket yet.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Maxwell vs Leggies is getting more and more like KP vs left arm spinners. Few years back in the IPL he was angered when he was asked about his ability against leggies.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Saw the highlights. Wade's dismissal lol It was comical. Ridiculous way to get out.

 

[English August]

Most IPL games are also on weekdays but it always have full house. Fans are just not showing interest in this series like they did back in days.

Signs of worry for BCCI, specially now that they will have to renew the broadcasting rights for home games. I wont be surprised if it fails to match the amount IPL did. Club cricket is future and thats where Cricket is heading.

Good to see this, actually. Eventually interest in IPL will outgrow interest in international cricket in India, which is a good thing. Under the current set up, Indian economy is indirectly subsidizing cricket all over the world and rest of the world is getting a free ride. ICC takes money from India and distributes to everyone else. With IPL, Indian money stays in India and in fact goes towards betterment of cricket infrastructure at the grass roots level.

Over a period of time, there should be IPL equivalent of "Test cricket" (perhaps played over 4 days instead of 5 days), and 50-50 cricket also. So cricketers would be able to excel in all forms of the game and fans will get to enjoy everything.

 

[squarecut]

Good to see this, actually. Eventually interest in IPL will outgrow interest in international cricket in India, which is a good thing. Under the current set up, Indian economy is indirectly subsidizing cricket all over the world and rest of the world is getting a free ride. ICC takes money from India and distributes to everyone else. With IPL, Indian money stays in India and in fact goes towards betterment of cricket infrastructure at the grass roots level.

Over a period of time, there should be IPL equivalent of "Test cricket" (perhaps played over 4 days instead of 5 days), and 50-50 cricket also. So cricketers would be able to excel in all forms of the game and fans will get to enjoy everything.

ICC's idea of spreading cricket is to take money from Indian market, keep a big chunk of it to itself and then subsidise (read bribe) the other cricket boards. The sooner BCCI moves on to the concept of club cricket (it is a matter of time), the better it is, seeing that ICC have never come up with any real and concrete idea to really popularise cricket world wide. It will keep stealing Indian money and distribute it to other boards.

What has ICC done to popularise cricket in new markets? In China, for instance ?

 

[wrongun]

There are programs in place in China- coaches being coached, cricket placed in schools. I've seen footage of them & seen interviews with Chinese coaches/players.

It is really still minimal though and more should be done- problem is Boards keep money from all bilateral & domestic cricket- ICC can only raise money from ICC events (world cups basically) & of course then uses most of that money to fund its salaries & nice base in Dubai and other things they actually DO have to spend on like the mechanics testing for bowling etc.

I think I saw Dave Richardson saying their first target was to get just 1% of China interested in cricket to start with (10 million people) and grow from there. It's a hard market to crack because cricket requires so much space, expensive equipment, manicured grounds etc and if you don't have a history of the game those kinds of things are very, very hard to set up in a country like China. Try buying space for a ground in a Chinese city. Massive investmentment, and you'd need to start in at least 10 cities. Not impossible and should be a priority but we have other cricket countries like WI crying out for investment too- who could be saved at a fraction of the cost. Difficult as most board see only self interest.

Let alone the complete ignorance/indifference of the population to the games existence.