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India (302/5) defeat Australia (289) to win 3rd ODI by 13 runs

I agree with everything. I do rate Pakistani players. I already said both India and Australia ar very very evenly matched at full strength. Absolute full strength.

I still think Pakistan has more of a chance to make things hard for India in Asia compared to Aussies obviously. Matchups matter. Same way saffers trouble Pakistan but lose badly to India.

New Zealand trouble India alot but Pakistan beat them usually. It's really weird.


Not anymore. We are no longer NZ’s bogey team.

And no, Pakistan will not push India harder than Australia do anywhere in the world.

Pakistan will get thumped by India in every series regardless of the venue.
 
Australia got lucky with toss as usual on this series. Hope in test matches, toss luck goes our way. Remember, Kohli never loses whenever he wins the toss.

Bro this was a humiliating series defeat. Take it in ur stride and hope for the best in T20'S. Dont behave like a child
 
Was a good series. Disappointed with the overall result but all will be forgotten if we manage to do something special in the all important Tests.


Just hope we don't burn out our Test bowlers in the useless T20s.
 
A good contest and well played India. A brilliant partnership by Pandiya and Jadega definately the main reason for the win.

Do get fed of reading but it was our C side against our B side. Who gives a monkeys really. Sides will always be rotated in ODI/T20 cricket unless its a global competition. Really doesn't matter.
 
As I said before, its tough to chase under lights in Australia. And people were like, Pandya is not a match winner bcoz he couldnt chase 380...lol.

I have no doubt India would have won the 1st two matches as well had they batted first. Similarly, Australia would have won today had they batted 1st here :inti

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Winning Tosses also important.
 
Was a good series. Disappointed with the overall result but all will be forgotten if we manage to do something special in the all important Tests.


Just hope we don't burn out our Test bowlers in the useless T20s.

Bumrah needs a massive rest. No t200 please for dear god sake. Don't blame bumrah and Shami for T20.
No Kohli as well ideally.
 
Bro this was a humiliating series defeat. Take it in ur stride and hope for the best in T20'S. Dont behave like a child

It's a bilateral man. There's nothing humiliating in losing 2-1 against Australia in Australia.

Except England, every team would get thrashed there
 
Is there any way to negate tosses? It's so unfair tbh. maybe play on 2 separate pitches. We need to invent some synthetic type pitch that can be removed and changed over the course of play.
 
The Indian and Australaian captains peaking at the end of the third odi's play:

Aaron Finch, Australia captain: I thought we fought really well. It was a great partnership between Hardik and Jadeja. If we got one of those wickets, we could have chased 240 max. Agar bowled beautifully, it was a good day in terms of the changes we made. The impact that the two spinners are having, that's important. It's nice when the guys in the top order contribute and then Maxy (Maxwell) can come in and do his thing with Carey and other guys. Hopefully he's (Starc) ready for the T20Is. Was just a niggle.

Virat Kohli, India captain: We were put under the pump in the first half and in the second half of Australia's innings. Shubman and others in the team, it brings in a bit freshness. I think the pitch was much better for the bowlers. So the confident goes up. Playing international cricket for so long, that's the challenge you face. We were clinical with the ball and in the field. Happy with the performance and hopefully we take the momentum forward. I would have liked to go on for a bit longer, but it was a great partnership between Pandya and Jadeja. The team needed that kind of a boost. Especially that's needed when you play a team like Australia.
 
So comes directly to the other side of world Australia after playing a gruelling long IPL in UAE, stays in isolation for months including in Australia without breaking bubble with impunity unlike other teams like WI & Pak, no warmup matches, plays against the full strength world most powerful team at their home while missing top ODI batsmen Rohit; still makes 300+ runs in each of the three matches and loses 2-1.

India will not be happy with the result but will take it. Kohli, Rahul, Pandya, Jadeja in form, Dhawan fighting it out, Bumrah coming late to party and lots of players like Shardul, Gill, Natarajan, Kuldeep getting a decent feel.

Of course Pakistan could have won 3-0 in Australia against Australia. But for India, this is good.
 
CT says high!!!!!

The final was a one off match.

The same set of players have played 5 ODIs against India and they have been demolished in 4 of them.

1. CT group match
2. Asia Cup match 1
3. Asia Cup match 2
4. 2019 World Cup match

So if Pakistan and India play a five match series anywhere in the world, India would win 5-0 or 4-1.
 
Bro this was a humiliating series defeat. Take it in ur stride and hope for the best in T20'S. Dont behave like a child

What behave like a child? All three matches, team that batted 1st...won the game. So toss definitely played a huge role and India (like always) was on wrong side of the coin luck.
 
:)) indian fans blaming loss of the series on toss of a coin as per usual.

If a had pound for every time this excuse was used i would be a billionare.
 
What behave like a child? All three matches, team that batted 1st...won the game. So toss definitely played a huge role and India (like always) was on wrong side of the coin luck.

Do u think if those were day games India would have chased 375 and 390?
 
Do u think if those were day games India would have chased 375 and 390?

No but had India batted 1st, Australia wouldn't chase the target as well. Its easier to bat first in Australia and set a target rather than chasing. But considering India lost the series 2-1, these 'would have - could have' doesn't matter.
 
BCCI should force ICC to scrap all coin toss for India games and just allow india to decide what they want to do. Clearly its not fair on india otherwise.
 
Bro this was a humiliating series defeat. Take it in ur stride and hope for the best in T20'S. Dont behave like a child

No bro, getting whitewashed (0-5) by Australia at rented home is what we call humiliating defeat, not losing to them by 1-2 in their home yard.
 
Big shut up call to all haters of ATG Kohli. Well done, team India to get the consolation win. Pandya who is an amazing all rounder, way better than frauds like Faheem, Jadeja, who gets hate from indian fans, and Kohli led the show for India yet again!
 
BCCI should force ICC to scrap all coin toss for India games and just allow india to decide what they want to do. Clearly its not fair on india otherwise.

After postponing world t20....and alleged change in schedule......bass yahi baki hai
 
Maxwell costed the match why look for a hit when you can easily win by taking singles and doubles.
 
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Maxwell costed the match why look for a hit when you can easily win by taking singles and doubles.

Yes indeed an poor shot when it wasnt really needed and Aussies gave initiative away at that point.
 
Man I should be india's selector. I know how to pick a freaking team for tests and odi. It's all about balance when you play in Sena. Even fodder xan be heroes.
 
Good win by India, but the outcome of the series is fair I'd say - Aussies are prolly the best odi outfit in the world along with England, with India a close second. They are immensely hard to beat at home on these flat n true surfaces where people like Maxwell can tonk pretty much any bowler in the world (that reverse sweep for a 100mtr six was crazy)
 
People need to stop hyping Bhuvi,he hasn't played since after WC plus he is an injury prone for last 2 years,Need to find some new ball bowlers who can swing and take wickets.
 
Jasprit Bumrah ends without any Power play wickets and Virat Kohli ends without any hundred in ODI in 2020.

:ssmith
 
We need something in the pitch for us to win , we will lose to England, Aus in batting shootouts unless Rohit clicks.
 
Yes. I mean he is a bowler who can take singles with the bat and should not be considered a reliable allrounder. And he is not a great bowler either even though he bowled well today.

He is fine as a bowler, but Starc, Pattinson and Cummins are better batters than him who can hit a few at the end.
 
In all seriousness this was much needed for india after the whitewash in the odi and test series in nz followed by the series loss here. A bit of confidence to take forward.
 
Guys c'mon. Enough with the Pakistan trolling. Pakistani fans just don't want to understand that it's hard to bat under the lights and that toss makes a huge difference. They should know better as it affected them too.

Pakistani fans also need to understand that this wasn't India's full strength team.

Anyway Pakistan is ayoung side with plenty of upside. I am certain they would beat top sides in u.a.e but they struggle vs bounce so Australia and South Africa are their nightmare matchups away.

They will do well in n.z.

England on Pattas is a problem but Pakistan beats England in slow pitches and Turner's. England obviouslt beats everyone on Pattas only. Maybe Australia and India can challenge them there.

However question is can Pakistan beat England in Australia on bouncy flat Pattas? Looking at the way the Pattas have looked I would have to go with England

So its 2-2 for Pakistan vs England matchup wise depending on pitches.
 
Yes thanks to warner n smith bans. And look how conveniently u chose not to mention 2014 series.
This is what i call hypocrisy

Australia without Warner,Smith and few other frontline bowlers white washed Pakistan 5-0 in UAE of all places. Hmmm...I think you went from CT final straight to India-Aus series 2020 missing a huge timeline in between
 
It was a good win for India - pulled the game back from a hopeless situation; but Aussies are frighteningly good at home - they would have won the series at least 2-1 against any Indian XI, batting first or second.

I don’t think there is any dead rubber these days because every game is worth 10 points for WC qualifier - this 10 points might not cost Aussies much but they hate to loose.
 
That awkward moment when some Pak fans are more hurt over Aussies not clean sweeping India than the Aussies themselves..... :))

When your own team huffs and puffs in 2 out of the 3 ODIs against Chibhabha's Zimbabwe on home soil...well I can imagine the desperation.

We get more affected by arrogance and hypocrisy because we are not used to it here
 
Indians celebrating series loss here lol. Anyways I have full faith you will get your answers in NZ when Pak beat them. We have upcoming youngsters unlike a Dad's army led by a egoistic maniac. If Indian cricket faced same issues as ours , it would have been in dust. If we do a normalised comparison of the two countries given the facilities, support to each player Pak triumphs India anywhere anyday.
 
It was a good win for India - pulled the game back from a hopeless situation; but Aussies are frighteningly good at home - they would have won the series at least 2-1 against any Indian XI, batting first or second.

I don’t think there is any dead rubber these days because every game is worth 10 points for WC qualifier - this 10 points might not cost Aussies much but they hate to loose.

wrong. india can beat them in australia with their full strength team. toss makes a huge difference as kohli's record is extremely good when he wins tosses. This applies to tests in particular but odi is no different. Almost just as good of a record.

India are more than capable of beating australia away with a full strength squad. Although i agree aussies will be favourites to win in australia. 60 - 40 in australia and 60 - 40 in india's favour in india.
 
See the amount of money you people put and the output. It's saddening. You have one WC extra than us to show for. Even head to head we lead. I mean the Pak has done amazingly well to be competitive inspite of so many things pulling them back. So yes in a normalised comparison we win


Sri Lanka Whitewashed 3-0 at home.
Amazingly done what?
 
if pakistanis put down the biryani and goat curry then i think they will reach top 3 in no time.
if indians actually eat lean foods then they will be number 1 in odis in no time. they are top 2/3 already with a poor diet. so pretty good achievement by the curry boys. Just lay off the curry, oily foods, sweets and other indian diarrhea inducing foods and then india can move up from number 2/3 to number 1 in odis as well.
 
See the amount of money you people put and the output. It's saddening. You have one WC extra than us to show for. Even head to head we lead. I mean the Pak has done amazingly well to be competitive inspite of so many things pulling them back. So yes in a normalised comparison we win

before 2010 we had vegeatarian players play for india. we actually had no money in the 90s. You guys were richer at the time. even in 80s. We had no proper system in place. Only after 2010 did we even learn about diet and fitness etc. It has paid dividends and it will only continue to improve. We still have many players in the team who dont even take strength and conditioning seriously. However, the trend is changing indeed. India with the limited resources at their disposal have done really well.
 
Indians celebrating series loss here lol. Anyways I have full faith you will get your answers in NZ when Pak beat them. We have upcoming youngsters unlike a Dad's army led by a egoistic maniac. If Indian cricket faced same issues as ours , it would have been in dust. If we do a normalised comparison of the two countries given the facilities, support to each player Pak triumphs India anywhere anyday.

Lol considering for majority of the time Pakistan has had better gdp per capita ,l almost till 2003, we won a WC before you ,defeated PCT in champions trophy final 1985.
 
wrong. india can beat them in australia with their full strength team. toss makes a huge difference as kohli's record is extremely good when he wins tosses. This applies to tests in particular but odi is no different. Almost just as good of a record.

India are more than capable of beating australia away with a full strength squad. Although i agree aussies will be favourites to win in australia. 60 - 40 in australia and 60 - 40 in india's favour in india.

Won’t bro, I respect your passion and you are not the most dilusional here, but trust me Aussies are hell tough butt at home. There are so many things to go in favour for just one win there.

Last night, India did play well, but Aussies were missing Warner as well and in Australia that balanced out Sharma.
 
I don't know enough about India's cricket structure to comment on their squad selections, but it was a good win. A much-needed win for them. If Australia whitewashed India and won the first T20I, I bet you they'd end up losing sales due to the "close games" they promised. Not being rude though, still a very good win for India. Makes the tour a hell of a lot more interesting.

One thing I've noticed, India played 3 spinners over the course of the series, Chahal, Jadeja, and Kuldeep. None of them did anything notable.

Jadeja has a tendency to bang a short ball down the leg-side every time he gets smacked for a six. He actually changes his stance when delivering that ball, puts no spin on it, and just darts it onto the pitch. I've noticed that throughout the series. To put a quick delivery, it has to be full and straight on the pads, otherwise, it's a "hit-me ball".

I rate Chahal highly, but he should have done better in this series. The length was too full or too short, and he was getting some decent turn from the pitch as well.

Kuldeep got some pretty good turn, but it's the speed of the delivery that makes him easy to smash sometimes.

As for the fast-bowlers, today they showed something good. Thakur did well to get some swing, and bowled intelligent lines at times. Bumrah made up for his loss of form but still must carry on in the T20I series. Natarajan did decently on debut in new conditions, rate him higher than Saini.
 
Decent effort by India here. Australia probably missed Warner as he could have gotten them off to a good start. Difficult game for Abbot, India took him apart. Australia may want look at another back up for 1 of the big 3 bowlers . Good news is Maxwell looks great now he has a clear role.
 
Decent effort by India here. Australia probably missed Warner as he could have gotten them off to a good start. Difficult game for Abbot, India took him apart. Australia may want look at another back up for 1 of the big 3 bowlers . Good news is Maxwell looks great now he has a clear role.

India will get their credit - along with SAF, they are the only team against whom Aussies will have to put their best XI.... if they tinker their starting XI, they’ll loose, while they might loose to Poms even with best possible XI. Teams like PAK or NZ will be crushed to pieces in Australia even by their genuine second XI, leaving first XI in rest, while least said about others are better - some Shield reserve teams can get the better of SRL, WIN, BD or AFGs on their wickets.
 
India will get their credit - along with SAF, they are the only team against whom Aussies will have to put their best XI.... if they tinker their starting XI, they’ll loose, while they might loose to Poms even with best possible XI. Teams like PAK or NZ will be crushed to pieces in Australia even by their genuine second XI, leaving first XI in rest, while least said about others are better - some Shield reserve teams can get the better of SRL, WIN, BD or AFGs on their wickets.

What's your opinion on Pandya and Jadeja? Do you think India needs both of them in their final XI?
 
What's your opinion on Pandya and Jadeja? Do you think India needs both of them in their final XI?

Not for guaranteed 20 overs of bowling - may be the India can pick another all-rounder and three of them share 20 overs and three specialists bowling test 30. That makes 4 specialist bat + KL as WK, three all-rounders & three bowlers.

But, India normally don’t pick “utility” players, rather picks specialists - therefore I don’t see that combination happening. In 2023, we might see Jadeja dropped or Pandeya converts into a full time No. 5/6 batsman.
 
India will get their credit - along with SAF, they are the only team against whom Aussies will have to put their best XI.... if they tinker their starting XI, they’ll loose, while they might loose to Poms even with best possible XI. Teams like PAK or NZ will be crushed to pieces in Australia even by their genuine second XI, leaving first XI in rest, while least said about others are better - some Shield reserve teams can get the better of SRL, WIN, BD or AFGs on their wickets.

South Africa beat full strength Aussies earlier this year. I think Norje and Faf didn't play in the series as well.

In home conditions regardless of the format, beating a full strength Australia is extremely difficult.
 
Won’t bro, I respect your passion and you are not the most dilusional here, but trust me Aussies are hell tough butt at home. There are so many things to go in favour for just one win there.

Last night, India did play well, but Aussies were missing Warner as well and in Australia that balanced out Sharma.

But India can at full strength is what I am saying. I did say 60 40 in Aussies favour but had India won all tosses I would not be surprised one bit if India won the series comfortably. India is just really good.

At India's home, India will obviously be favourites. 60 40 in India's favour.


There is also no team tougher to beat at home in tests other than India. India is much harder to beat in tests away.

In odi I would say Aussies at home are the hardest but if anyone can win their with would be either saffers or India. Saffers will always butcher them. Love that team. England have belted them too albeit without aussies's best attack.
 
For me England will romp next t20 world cups as well as the 50 overs one in India, their batting is scary good, David mahlan the new addition, as well as gun hitters like hales, banton, and top class players like root can't get a look in
 
For me England will romp next t20 world cups as well as the 50 overs one in India, their batting is scary good, David mahlan the new addition, as well as gun hitters like hales, banton, and top class players like root can't get a look in

You ain't doing squat in India mate. India will flatline you all in India. Not going to happen.

We are not going to prepare Pattas for your hacks. You guys are good on Pattas but Aussies and India can beat you even there.
 
For me England will romp next t20 world cups as well as the 50 overs one in India, their batting is scary good, David mahlan the new addition, as well as gun hitters like hales, banton, and top class players like root can't get a look in

India beat you in England too btw. India and England are favourites for next world cup but we better.
 
Toss matters a huge bit in Australia, the flat Phattas they offered in Sydney gave nothing to the bowlers first innings however aussies bowlers got some swing under lights. The series could have gone either way had India won the first 2 tosses. Bumrah looked a different bowler in Canberra as the wicket had a bit more juice compared to the Phattas he bowled in Sydney under the baking sun.
 
I said it in the match thread when India were batting, that no matter even if India scored 250 they would've still defended it. That pitch was nowhere near as flat as the first two ODIs.
 
Toss matters a huge bit in Australia, the flat Phattas they offered in Sydney gave nothing to the bowlers first innings however aussies bowlers got some swing under lights. The series could have gone either way had India won the first 2 tosses. Bumrah looked a different bowler in Canberra as the wicket had a bit more juice compared to the Phattas he bowled in Sydney under the baking sun.

Yes and Pakistanis need to accept the truth. Toss matters in Sena. Makes a huge difference.e it doest. Matter as much in Asia.
 
India beat you in England too btw. India and England are favourites for next world cup but we better.

Can't agree with that, England have all bases covered in limited over formats, be it on spin, flat tracks, to much experience and quality and the bench strength is incredible, whilst India rely on rohit in the limited overs in icc tournaments. Captain marvel kohli is a bottler and maybe with him being relieved of his duties as a captain might strengthen you, also you have a ageing attack.
 
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Can't agree with that, England have all bases covered in limited over formats, be it on spin, flat tracks, to much experience and quality and the bench strength is incredible, whilst India rely on rohit in the limited overs in icc tournaments. Captain marvel kohli is a bottler and maybe with him being relieved of his duties as a captain might strengthen you, also you have a ageing attack.

I disagree with your opinion then.

India are better on every track compared to England except for Pattas. Even there you need to win the toss and bat first to beat India. You think we just have Kohli and Rohit ROFL.
We have plenty of young guns coming through. Our bowlers will be at their peak in 2023 especially bumrah. Shami is still young and fit. Then we have some other young guns coming up like Tyagi Krishna etc.

We have Jaiswal Gill Shaw etc Iyer and pandya will hit their prime. Pant will hit his prime

We are going to crush literally everyone in 2023.
 
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I disagree with your opinion then.

India are better on every track compared to England except for Pattas. Even there you need to win the toss and bat first to beat India. You think we just have Kohli and Rohit ROFL.
We have plenty of young guns coming through. Our bowlers will be at their peak in 2023 especially bumrah. Shami is still young and fit. Then we have some other young guns coming up like Tyagi Krishna etc.

We have Jaiswal Gill Shaw etc Iyer and pandya will hit their prime. Pant will hit his prime

We are going to crush literally everyone in 2023.

Every country has young guns coming throw not only india.what about world beater saini LOl.i disgaree i think england are better than india india relies on kohli and rohit whilst england dont relie on evrryone as they all can score big runs
 
Every country has young guns coming throw not only india.what about world beater saini LOl.i disgaree i think england are better than india india relies on kohli and rohit whilst england dont relie on evrryone as they all can score big runs

You are correct if it's patta pitches
Slow tracks, Turner's and bouncy tracks India is definitely better than England though.

India will not prepare Pattas for England lol. Too risky. But more than that in Pattas toss really matters man. You should see the record. Same thing in the last world cup toss made a huge difference when teams bat first.

India will definitely put on spin Turner's or slow pitches. Maybe bouncy for England too. Lol. Never Pattas.
 
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You are correct if it's patta pitches
Slow tracks, Turner's and bouncy tracks India is definitely better than England though.

India will not prepare Pattas for England lol. Too risky. But more than that in Pattas toss really matters man. You should see the record. Same thing in the last world cup toss made a huge difference when teams bat first.

India will definitely put on spin Turner's or slow pitches. Maybe bouncy for England too. Lol. Never Pattas.

India pitches are always slow due to the weather if they even tried to create flat desks or bouncy wickets it will stil end up spinning on day 1 of a test match
 
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