India [326/2] beat West Indies [322/8] by eight wickets in the first ODI match

This shouldn't have been this much one sided. 300+ isn't an easy score.
 
A wasted opportunity for India. What did they learn from this game? Nothing. Could they test their plans? No.

A meaningless, empty victory that won't be recalled 7 days from now. But it will come back to haunt India come the WC19.
I think kohli, rohit, dhawan won't play after the second odi,that's why team has only been selected for first 2 odis.
Our middle order will get sufficient chances.
 
When Kohli was around 80 runs, Rohit was in his 30s striking at 60 SR. Look now
 
GUlf between Indian top order and middle order has to reduce drastically to have a semblance of hope in the world cup. Rightnow it is rather wide thanks to pathetic selections.
 
[MENTION=143730]AMSS[/MENTION] is right. In the past we have rested our key playets from home series vs WI. Strange to see the big 3 still playing.

Could easily have seen how a top 4 of Shaw, Rahul, Pant and Rayudu go by giving them a full series
 
[MENTION=143730]AMSS[/MENTION] is right. In the past we have rested our key playets from home series vs WI. Strange to see the big 3 still playing.

Could easily have seen how a top 4 of Shaw, Rahul, Pant and Rayudu go by giving them a full series
After 2nd odi, shaw probably may get a chance
 
[MENTION=143730]AMSS[/MENTION] is right. In the past we have rested our key playets from home series vs WI. Strange to see the big 3 still playing.

Could easily have seen how a top 4 of Shaw, Rahul, Pant and Rayudu go by giving them a full series

Kohli hasn't played white ball cricket since June. He needs enough game time before the Australian tour too.
 
[MENTION=143730]AMSS[/MENTION] is right. In the past we have rested our key playets from home series vs WI. Strange to see the big 3 still playing.

Could easily have seen how a top 4 of Shaw, Rahul, Pant and Rayudu go by giving them a full series

India has way too many good batsmen waiting in the wings. They could make mistakes picking the right combo.
 
Kohli hasn't played white ball cricket since June. He needs enough game time before the Australian tour too.

Oh comeon. Kohli will be fine in Aus. Does not have to play this series. I hope all three - Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli are rested after 2nd ODI.

Need to give enough batting time to Pant, Raydu, Pandey (and unfortunately to Dhoni) in the 13 ODIs between now and WC.
 
So tell me exactly how one predicts something for the future without assuming it to come true?

One doesn't assume predictions to come true. It's probabilistic. For a guy who watches cricket on excel sheet you have a woeful understanding of how stats and predictions work.
 
A wasted opportunity for India. What did they learn from this game? Nothing. Could they test their plans? No.

A meaningless, empty victory that won't be recalled 7 days from now. But it will come back to haunt India come the WC19.
Can't keep Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan away from international cricket for too long either.
 
Kohli will retire with 60-70 ODI hundreds, Rohit around 30-35.
 
Can't keep Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan away from international cricket for too long either.

Rotate two of the three to give others some batting practice.

How many times have we seen these three go missing in crucial knock outs (after hogging almost all batting in earlier matches) and an undercooked middle order crumbling (with customary non contribution by Dhoni)?
 
Teams, especially at the bottom of the rankings, can only defeat India in India if they bowl first and let India set up a total. Even if the batting team scores 400, India will chase the total down probably with 5 overs to spare. Their batting is that good.

New Zealand came within a whisker of beating India in an ODI series only because they chased two out of the three ODIs. India when batting first will have the added pressure of setting up a total and this is where teams can capitalize. Irrespective of what the pitch is like, teams coming to India should always look to bowl first. Unless its a complete snake pit which you'd hardly get.
 
One doesn't assume predictions to come true. It's probabilistic. For a guy who watches cricket on excel sheet you have a woeful understanding of how stats and predictions work.

Oh fancy!

So since it's probabilistic I'm sure you have done your due diligence. May I see your work? How have you crunched the numbers?

Or do you not have the calculations? No?

See this is what happens when children try to use big words. They don't even know what it means. :)))
 
Oh comeon. Kohli will be fine in Aus. Does not have to play this series. I hope all three - Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli are rested after 2nd ODI.

Need to give enough batting time to Pant, Raydu, Pandey (and unfortunately to Dhoni) in the 13 ODIs between now and WC.

Everybody needs time in the middle. Kohli doesn't need to play all 5 games. But even a genius like him will want some game time before a big tour like Australia.
 
Rotate two of the three to give others some batting practice.

How many times have we seen these three go missing in crucial knock outs (after hogging almost all batting in earlier matches) and an undercooked middle order crumbling (with customary non contribution by Dhoni)?

Well said. Highly unlikely - contribution from dead wood.
 
Oh fancy!

So since it's probabilistic I'm sure you have done your due diligence. May I see your work? How have you crunched the numbers?

Or do you not have the calculations? No?

See this is what happens when children try to use big words. They don't even know what it means. :)))

Oh look, desi poster is back to his basic insults - 'children'. I don't need calculations to know predictions are statistical (another fancy word for you to look up) in nature. Are you now clear on predictions not being the same as assumptions? Consider this, a prediction is made on the basis of assumptions. Ergo, they cannot be the same. Do you realize what a fool you were to say they were the same thing?
If you are struggling still then feel free to reach out to me.
 
These FTBs can be such gundas against teams like WI. Cannot wait to see then in WC19. Would be putting a lobster on them not making the semis.
 
Oh look, desi poster is back to his basic insults - 'children'. I don't need calculations to know predictions are statistical (another fancy word for you to look up) in nature. Are you now clear on predictions not being the same as assumptions? Consider this, a prediction is made on the basis of assumptions. Ergo, they cannot be the same. Do you realize what a fool you were to say they were the same thing?
If you are struggling still then feel free to reach out to me.

You're correct. Predictions are based on statistics and probability.

So as I said, since you have yourself claimed that you're making this prediction based on probability I am sure you followed proper procedure.

So, I will say it again. Can I see your work? I want to see how you made these calculations.

I'll be waiting for your reply. And make sure you bring your calculations along.
 
These FTBs can be such gundas against teams like WI. Cannot wait to see then in WC19. Would be putting a lobster on them not making the semis.

Why only against WI? Didn't we show our gundagardi against notable others in the UAE recently?:shhh
 
So tell me exactly how one predicts something for the future without assuming it to come true?

One doesn't assume predictions to come true. It's probabilistic. For a guy who watches cricket on excel sheet you have a woeful understanding of how stats and predictions work.

You are trying too hard. The word "assuming" was correctly used given the context.
 
GUWAHATI, India – A blistering 78-ball 106 runs from Shimron Hetmyer to help the WINDIES post a challenging 323-run total, was not enough to prevent India from winning the first One Day International in Guwahati by eight wickets.

The WINDIES had two ODI debutants in the playing eleven, Oshane Thomas and Chandrapaul Hemraj. Hemraj was up first as he opened the batting with Kieran Powell, after Virat Kohli won the toss and sent the WINDIES in to bat first. With his total on 9, Hemraj chucked on to his wicket and the WINDIES was down 1 early.

Powell continued on with new batsman Shai Hope. The pair batted sensibly during the powerplay overs, maximizing the singles and doubles they could get when boundaries were hard to come by. Powell brought up his ninth Test half-century before being caught in the deep for 51. Marlon Samuels playing in his 200th ODI lasted all of 2 deliveries when he was trapped LBW without scoring.

In came Shimron Hetmyer, together with Hope, they looked to rebuilding the WINDIES innings. They combined for a 28-run partnership and stopped the slide of quick wickets. However, Mohammed Shami got Hope to slash at a rising delivery which carried the edge behind for an easy catch by MS Dhoni. Hope dismissed for 32 and the WINDIES 114/4.

Hetmyer was joined by Rovman Powell and this young pair gave a showcase of the future of WINDIES cricket. Hetmyer was the aggressor of the pair, playing fearless shots off Yuzvendra Chahal and Mohammed Shami. Hetmyer was dealing in sixes and fours, though Powell was not to be outdone. But the most impressive form of their partnership was the speedy running between the wickets. This put pressure on the Indian fielders, causing several miss-fields and drop pedcatches. With a 74-run partnership and the score on 188, Powell got beaten between bat and pad from a quicker delivery from Ravindra Jadeja, to be bowled for 22.

Captain Jason Holder joined Hetmyer and the scoring rhythm continued. Hetmyer struck a lofty blow to bring up his third ODI century and his first against India. Saluting his dressing room and crowd, he was given a lusty cheer from the appreciative fans in the stadium who saw a remarkable innings from the young 21-yr old. Holder and Hetmyer partnered for 60 runs before Hetmyer going for one too many shots was caught for an innings top-score of 106 from 78 deliveries. Chahal trapped Ashley Nurse LBW for 2, then bowled Holder for 38.

Kemar Roach and Devendra Bishoo took the WINDIES to a defendable 323-run total with some lofty blows and quick singles. Roach finished not out on 26 while Bishoo was not out on 22. Chahal was the best bowler for India, taking 3-41 while, Shami and Jadeja had 2 wickets each.

Oshane Thomas got the dream start to his debut match when he got Shikhar Dhawan to chuck on to his stumps for 4 and India quickly down 10-1. Then came the match-winnings partnership that sealed the WINDIES defeat. Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma combined for a mammoth 246-run partnership, which saw Kohli reach his thirtieth Test century and Sharma his twentieth.

Kohli and Sharma used the pace and bad line and length from the WINDIES bowlers to score freely with fours and sixes, keeping them well ahead of the required run-rate. Between them, they scored 36-fours and 10-sixes. Bishoo eventually got Kohli stumped by Shai Hope for 140, but the damage was already done.

Ambati Rayudu joined Sharma and the pair saw India home to the 323 target, not before Sharma reached 150. India got to their target in 42.1 overs, Sharma not out 152 and Rayudu not out on 22. Bowling for the WINDIES Devendra Bishoo took 1-72 and Oshane Thomas 1-83.

Speaking after the match, Captain Jason Holder said “They’re two quality players and I think we erred on the side of boundaries more often than not. We went looking for wickets upfront because we felt that was the way to win the game. When batting, we had a par score, maybe 20-30 runs short but we were pleased with the total we got. It was good seeing Hetmyer put his hand up and getting the score he did. We came out to play fearless cricket and with a young side, we’ve only got so much to gain as each match goes by. It’s only a matter of learning as quickly as we can and get into their middle order quicker.”
 
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