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India [416 & 168/4d] beat West Indies [117 & 210] by 257 runs in the 2nd Test, win series 2-0

Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Its actually 44.35 now. Where were you when his fans were overhyping him to be the next big thing after every inning and claiming he will average 50 in test cricket?

When this series started he was averaging 49 something. You call that improvement? Only a biased fan will say that this is a good tour for him. :inti
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Again questioning a youngster, who barely played 11 tests, every single match or series is extremely biased. Even some of our so called stalwart dont have 2 100s in SENA in their entire careers. And it's even more pathetic when the questioning is done because people are blind fans of players who are now over the hill and defend them only because of emotional attachment
 
Pant has been brilliant behind the stumps. It's been a long time since I saw an Indian keeper dive like that while keeping to a fast bowler
 
Indiafan said:
Again questioning a youngster, who barely played 11 tests, every single match or series is extremely biased. Even some of our so called stalwart dont have 2 100s in SENA in their entire careers. And it's even more pathetic when the questioning is done because people are blind fans of players who are now over the hill and defend them only because of emotional attachment
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I think we should ask the mods to shut this forum and stay at home lol.

I can question any player I like who are you to stop me from doing that? When you don't even stop people from overhyping a youngster you should also not try to stop others from criticising a player.

He has hit centuries in Aus and Eng but I am talking about this series here? It was a below average tour for him. He is not the first 21 year old to be criticised by fans.

You need to let people post their opinion and actually reply to them instead of preaching them about what they should or should not post here. Tell me how did Pant perform on this tour? :inti
 
Indiafan said:
Same clubl level who won against Australia?

I would like to see how many batsmen could play some of those balls at that pace. Quite a biased statement here
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Bumrah Is Amazing but no other team would be reeling like this except minnow teams like windies other teams would have definitely done better
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Now who is this 'we' here? Are you afraid of going into discussion with me alone now? Which 'we' gang are you leading here? When I am talking to you and about one player just stick to that only without bringing others into discussion.

Regarding Pant, only a delusional fan like you will defend Pant here. This has been a pretty pathetic tour for him. Look how you are looking for a 50-run partnership as some kind of achievement here. That means nothing. Poor tour for him so far. Get over it. He is not above criticism. Only a f@nboy can get hurt like this. You surely are one of his f@nboy. And if he plays a good inning I will appreciate him just like I did in the World Cup. But you won't criticise him if he plays poorly thats the difference between you and me. :inti
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Pant's noncontribution affected India no way. Nobody is above criticism But you are targeting failures. If you had raised the same concern about pUjara i would have agreed you are neutral. Rahane brought his average from 50 to 40. Until this tour where he got a bit of luck against the "average team" to make some runs he was sucking balls. You had nothing to say about that. Somehow designated wicket keeper's failure is the only that catches your attention. Ya we believe you are "unbiased'.
 
Mean&Green said:
Bumrah Is Amazing but no other team would be reeling like this except minnow teams like windies other teams would have definitely done better
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Most of those balls were unplayable and the commentators are saying the same too. Huge swing+Pace+great line and length means any batsman would struggle
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Pant's noncontribution affected India no way. Nobody is above criticism But you are targeting failures. If you had raised the same concern about pUjara i would have agreed you are neutral. Rahane brought his average from 50 to 40. Until this tour where he got a bit of luck against the "average team" to make some runs he was sucking balls. You had nothing to say about that. Somehow designated wicket keeper's failure is the only that catches your attention. Ya we believe you are "unbiased'.
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Not to mention how great Pant's keeping has been, the dives he has made against pacers, its been a while since we saw an Indian keeper do that against pacers
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Pant's noncontribution affected India no way. Nobody is above criticism But you are targeting failures. If you had raised the same concern about pUjara i would have agreed you are neutral. Rahane brought his average from 50 to 40. Until this tour where he got a bit of luck against the "average team" to make some runs he was sucking balls. You had nothing to say about that. Somehow designated wicket keeper's failure is the only that catches your attention. Ya we believe you are "unbiased'.
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Why should I raise a concern about Pujara? Why should I raise a concern about Rahane?
If you have nothing else to describe Pant's poor performance then just keep quiet and don't quote me. All you do is bring other players into discussion and try to divert the debate.

Had I talked or raised concerns about Pujara and Rahane you would have complained about me not saying anything about Murali Vijay and Mohit Sharma then lol. Just goes to show that you have nothing to debate about and are just beating the dead horse as always.

Quote me when you have something to show for Pant. I will praise him when he does that. :inti
 
Great fifer by bumrah ,he is just unplayable.Advice for some people ,u can use ignore button to shut the troll.Except shamarh everyone got jaffas.
 
Man anyone here’s praising pant seriously need a reality check he’s nothing better than a Umar akmal at best tons of potential and talent but zero performance to back that up it’s not even an argument I won’t even bother his last six innings from every format are a proof of that
 
Mean&Green said:
Man anyone here’s praising pant seriously need a reality check he’s nothing better than a Umar akmal at best tons of potential and talent but zero performance to back that up it’s not even an argument I won’t even bother his last six innings from every format are a proof of that
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How is 2 100s in Aus and England, which many great players have failed to achieve, not good? And how is last 6 innings a measure for any players? Heck Sachin, Ponting, Smith, Kohli, all have failed for more than 6 innings in a single format, let alone combining all format
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Why should I raise a concern about Pujara? Why should I raise a concern about Rahane?
If you have nothing else to describe Pant's poor performance then just keep quiet and don't quote me. All you do is bring other players into discussion and try to divert the debate.

Had I talked or raised concerns about Pujara and Rahane you would have complained about me not saying anything about Murali Vijay and Mohit Sharma then lol. Just goes to show that you have nothing to debate about and are just beating the dead horse as always.

Quote me when you have something to show for Pant. I will praise him when he does that. :inti
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That was just to expose your bias. You are clearly proud of it apparently lol
 
Mean&Green said:
Man anyone here’s praising pant seriously need a reality check he’s nothing better than a Umar akmal at best tons of potential and talent but zero performance to back that up it’s not even an argument I won’t even bother his last six innings from every format are a proof of that
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He is a wicket keeper. He didn't exactly replace Adam Gilchrist. He replaced Saha an average batsman. Dhoni could never score a 100 either in England or Australia.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Why should I raise a concern about Pujara? Why should I raise a concern about Rahane?
If you have nothing else to describe Pant's poor performance then just keep quiet and don't quote me. All you do is bring other players into discussion and try to divert the debate.

Had I talked or raised concerns about Pujara and Rahane you would have complained about me not saying anything about Murali Vijay and Mohit Sharma then lol. Just goes to show that you have nothing to debate about and are just beating the dead horse as always.

Quote me when you have something to show for Pant. I will praise him when he does that. :inti
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I'm with you brother. Some of our countrymen have now developed the intolerance syndrome. They can't accept or appreciate views of others. Just ignore those people. By the way, I agree on your views on Pant. Too much hype, too little substance. Just like Shubman Gill.
 
Mean&Green said:
Man anyone here’s praising pant seriously need a reality check he’s nothing better than a Umar akmal at best tons of potential and talent but zero performance to back that up it’s not even an argument I won’t even bother his last six innings from every format are a proof of that
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Thing is they will tag you when Pant scores a fifty but will push the ignore button for you when he fails miserably. They will try to run away from the debate, call you a troll and attention seeker lol. I find it funny when some noobs who haven't spend even a month here call a guy who has actively participated here for the last 6 years an attention seeker. :viru

They are a perfect example of f@nboys. Look how they are finding his wicketkeeping beautiful now that he has nothing to show in the batting department. I praised Pant's inning in the World Cup but you won't find even a single post from them criticising Pant after this poor tour of West Indies. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Saha was never hyped to be the next big thing. Pant was. Next... :inti
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DId Pant hype himself in the press? You have to look at Pant as a player, not as someone who was "hyped by fans". Just because his fans hype doesn't mean he is hyping himself. Basically an impaired judgement based on his fan following.
 
IND 416
WI 57/5 (21.3) CRR: 2.65
Day 2: 3rd Session - West Indies trail by 359 runs
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Yeah its pretty clear who is biased here. So what's your opinion about Pant on this tour? Kindly don't bring others into this now. :inti
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Yes it is a failure series. But he is least of our problem on this tour. He should be backed. india's real problem is at the top of the order. Lack of centuries from openers.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
DId Pant hype himself in the press? You have to look at Pant as a player, not as someone who was "hyped by fans". Just because his fans hype doesn't mean he is hyping himself. Basically an impaired judgement based on his fan following.
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Am I talking to Pant or you guys? You guys hyped him. Whenever I criticise his performance without even tagging single one of you, you guys come in his defence and act like his PPG(Poor Performance Guards). :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Am I talking to Pant or you guys? You guys hyped him. Whenever I criticise his performance without even tagging single one of you, you guys come in his defence and act like his PPG(Poor Performance Guards). :inti
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All the noobs , especially those who age 21 deserve backing. Karthik made debut when he was 19, Parthiv when he was 16. They had their run before they got replaced. 21 is also very young. He didn't rob anyone's place. He came through merit. He averages 53 in domestic. In his very first tour he was selected as ICC wicket keeper. He broke wicket keeping record for India. Not getting nitpicked. All youngsters deserve backing.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Am I talking to Pant or you guys? You guys hyped him. Whenever I criticise his performance without even tagging single one of you, you guys come in his defence and act like his PPG(Poor Performance Guards). :inti
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pant is **** in this tour. like a steaming pile of Sh*t. However he has talent. better than other fodders india have. Who else is there? Samson? lol.

Pant needs to be given a few more chances on away tours.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
All the noobs , especially those who age 21 deserve backing. Karthik made debut when he was 19, Parthiv when he was 16. They had their run before they got replaced. 21 is also very young. He didn't rob anyone's place. He came through merit. He averages 53 in domestic. In his very first tour he was selected as ICC wicket keeper. He broke wicket keeping record for India. Not getting nitpicked. All youngsters deserve backing.
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Pant is averaging 45 now with 2 100s in Aus and England (that Aus was 159 not out). To compare, Laxman has never scored a single 100 in England in his entire career. Sehwag has 1 100 in England and Dravid and Ganguly have 1 100 each in Australia in their entire career. Pant has done this in 10 matches

Compare with how his keeping has improved and how well he keeps against pacers and you can see how people criticizing him are obviously biased
 
Indiafan said:
Are you confusing tests with ODIs here?
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It doesn’t matter regardless I don’t ever want to see dhoni being compared to any new comer that has not even achieved a shoe lace of dhoni being compared to him regardless of the format. Pant could barely finish matches in IPL and we’re talking about international cricket here. Ishan Kishan is the man if you ask me but again everyone loves pant in India for no reason. Don’t worry he will score another hundred soon than flop for the next 10 innings.
 
Mean&Green said:
It doesn’t matter regardless I don’t ever want to see dhoni being compared to any new comer that has not even achieved a shoe lace of dhoni being compared to him regardless of the format. Pant could barely finish matches in IPL and we’re talking about international cricket here. Ishan Kishan is the man if you ask me but again everyone loves pant in India for no reason. Don’t worry he will score another hundred soon than flop for the next 10 innings.
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Obviously you have not seen Isan Kishan against pace bowling lol
 
Indiafan said:
Pant is averaging 45 now with 2 100s in Aus and England (that Aus was 159 not out). To compare, Laxman has never scored a single 100 in England in his entire career. Sehwag has 1 100 in England and Dravid and Ganguly have 1 100 each in Australia in their entire career. Pant has done this in 10 matches

Compare with how his keeping has improved and how well he keeps against pacers and you can see how people criticizing him are obviously biased
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Yes. There is no real logic behind dismissing a 21 year old. Hey i think so, so it must be true. He is still evolving. Even Virat Kohli failed in his first tour to Windies. Then he even got dropped from Test squad. He had to make a come back. Pant is not even a specialist bat. A keeper.
 
Indiafan said:
Pant is averaging 45 now with 2 100s in Aus and England (that Aus was 159 not out). To compare, Laxman has never scored a single 100 in England in his entire career. Sehwag has 1 100 in England and Dravid and Ganguly have 1 100 each in Australia in their entire career. Pant has done this in 10 matches

Compare with how his keeping has improved and how well he keeps against pacers and you can see how people criticizing him are obviously biased
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pant could also be a early bloomer and falter later you know. Kind of like amir.

amir is useless in tests.
 
What are West Indies doing? This is their home ground and they seem completely lost.

Outrageous performance.
 
Wi is a embarrassment to world cricket

Luckily archer got out of that rubble
 
volcyz said:
Wi is a embarrassment to world cricket

Luckily archer got out of that rubble
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They lack players who produce 100s. I thought Hope was a next gen batsman and Hetmyer would get better and better. But Hetmyer has developed a pattern of getting out. Just throw a little wider. He is going to nick sooner than later.
 
Such utter dominance. And to think this team bullied England like no tomorrow. Windies truly have been our bunnies since 2002
 
West Indies have lots of talents but their players seem to care more about money than national team.

T20 has ruined West Indies the most.
 
sweep_shot said:
West Indies have lots of talents but their players seem to care more about money than national team.

T20 has ruined West Indies the most.
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Hope flattered to deceive. After his twin centuries he regressed very badly. Now averaging 27.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Yes. There is no real logic behind dismissing a 21 year old. Hey i think so, so it must be true. He is still evolving. Even Virat Kohli failed in his first tour to Windies. Then he even got dropped from Test squad. He had to make a come back. Pant is not even a specialist bat. A keeper.
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If he is not a specialist bat why was he batting at 4 in ODI's? He even played as a specialist batsman in the World Cup.

Now that you have brought Virat Kohli into discussion let me introduce Umar Akmal to you. You think he is going to revive his career like Virat Kohli while in my opinion he is going to be another Umar Akmal. Its a difference of opinion. Learn to accept it and don't get hurt. :inti
 
Nikhil_cric said:
True. 4th innings chases are a nightmare for us.
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that's what india need to prove now. can they win away while batting last despite losing toss. If they achieve this year in England or australia then they can be considered as one of the greatest teams. Or If they dominate every team at home like they have done so far for the past 7 years without losing a series then it's good enough to warrant a claim for one of the best teams ever.

Dominating at home is not easy. England, australia and south africa have all lost at home. Pakistan too.
 
If a wicket-keeper batsmen can score 5000 runs at an average over 35 and play some clutch innings with bat, that's enough to call it a successful wicket-keeper.

Pant is doing fine, we should only start expecting from him once he reaches 30 tests mark. This is the time when we can start expecting more from KL Rahul now. NZ series will be essential for these youngsters. At home, anyways, there is not much worry. Even Rohit Sharma and Shikhar Dhawan can hit hundreds for fun at home.
 
India's ace paceman Jasprit Bumrah claimed first Test hat-trick as he broke the back of West Indies' batting, leaving the hosts stuttering at 87/7 on day two of the Kingston Test.

The 25-year-old pacer became only the third Indian, after Irfan Pathan and Harbhajan Singh, to claim a Test hat-trick, and finished the day with impressive figures of 6/16 on Saturday, 31 August.

In the ninth over of the West Indies innings, Bumrah first had Darren Bravo caught by KL Rahul at second slip on the second ball, and then had both Shamarh Brooks and Roston Chase trapped in front with the next two balls. Bumrah's hat-trick was also backed by a good review from skipper Virat Kohli, after Chase had been adjudged not out.

None of the West Indies batsmen showed any meaningful resistance, with Shimron Hetmyer finishing as their top-scorer of the day, with a 57-ball 34.

Before Bumrah, it was middle-order Hanuma Vihari doing all the damage, in the company of No.9 Ishant Sharma, as India racked up a strong first-innings total of 416. The visitors began day two on 264/5, with Vihari on 42 and Rishabh Pant on 27.

Pant was dismissed before he could add to his overnight tally, by West Indies captain Jason Holder. Ravindra Jadeja, who scored a fifty in the first Test, contributed 16, before becoming debutant Rahkeem Cornwall's second international victim, reducing India to 302/7.

From there, Vihari and Ishant got together and shared a 112-run stand for the eighth wicket, taking India's total past 400. In the process, Vihari brought up his maiden Test ton, scoring a steady 111 from 225 balls, which also featured 16 fours, while Ishant hit his maiden Test fifty, scoring an 80-ball 57.

Jason Holder was West Indies' star bowler, returning 5/77, while Cornwall chipped in with three wickets.


https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1333379
 
Why do WI even bother to play Test cricket? I bet if WI had a choice, they would choose to not to play any Test cricket.
 
Keen observation by Bishop. Shami knows Bumrah is not 100% fit. So when Bumrah wanted to run from boundary line for a high five, he asked him to stop and gave him a long distance high five.
 
Aman said:
Why do WI even bother to play Test cricket? I bet if WI had a choice, they would choose to not to play any Test cricket.
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Tell that to Jason Holder and the rest of the Windies team and the fans after they beat England 2-1 earlier this year.

India unfortunately has a significantly superior batting and bowling lineup.
 
Tests to 150 wkts by Indian seamers
39 Kapil Dev
40 J Srinath
42 Mohd Shami
49 Zaheer Khan
54 I Sharma


Shami is quite underrated, well amongst India's best pacers across formats.
 
WI 117
IND 416, 0/0 (1.0) CRR: 0
Day 3: 1st Session - India lead by 299 runs
 
WI 117
IND 416, 16/1 (8.0) CRR: 2
Day 3: 1st Session - India lead by 315 runs
 
Yaar West Indies ne sirf Pakistan ko harana tha World Cup mein :(
 
Agarwal and Rahul, none of the two, have still established them. Both are 27-28 age old and should start performing on consistent basis.
 
Ab Fan said:
Agarwal and Rahul, none of the two, have still established them. Both are 27-28 age old and should start performing on consistent basis.
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Agarwal has played just 4 tests
Rahul has played 36

Agarwal was brilliant on Aus tour,he should be backed.Rahul needs to be dropped
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Agarwal has played just 4 tests
Rahul has played 36

Agarwal was brilliant on Aus tour,he should be backed.Rahul needs to be dropped
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Agreed but Shaw is banned and not many options left.

Anyways, the point is we still haven't find any established name at the top like we have at 3, 4 & to extent at 5.
 
Roach has been wonderful since his comeback

Better than Hazzlewood, Starc, and Pattinson

He averges 21 with a strike rate of 44.3 since 2017. The most underated bowler
 
High time they draft Subhman Gill in. He outperformed his captain Vihari in that A team series against WI A team.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
High time they draft Subhman Gill in. He outperformed his captain Vihari in that A team series against WI A team.
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Gill can't bowl


Vihari has been perfered over Rohit because of his part time bowling ablity so team doesn't fall behind over rate and give more rest to fast bowlers during the innings. It was stated by Virat Kohli himself
 
Defensive strategy by India, should look to score runs and put a target of 500+ on board.
 
Vihari is a solid pick at no.6. He should continue there as he is a better pick than Pandya. India need to strengthen batting as openers are non-established.

In India, can go with both spin options- Ashwin and Jadeja, along with Shami/Ishant and Bumrah.
 
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shah_1 said:
Gill can't bowl


Vihari has been perfered over Rohit because of his part time bowling ablity so team doesn't fall behind over rate and give more rest to fast bowlers during the innings. It was stated by Virat Kohli himself
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Gill can play as opener in place of KLR

He opens in Ranji
 
Pakistan had to play out of their skins to beat the WI who almost drew that series. India is making mince meat out of the same West Indies team. That just shows you how far ahead India is off Pakistan at almost every level.

Look at the fitness of the Indian players in general compared to the Pakistani players. Look at the average speeds of the Indian pace attack compared to their Pakistani counter parts. Pakistani pacers drop off in their second spell onwards. Heck who can forget the average speeds of 128-132 km/hr on the fast bouncy seaming track in the second test match in South Africa which played a massive role in SA winning that test match and scoring a huge lead.

Pakistani players and pacers need some tough love from the PCB.
 
shah_1 said:
Gill can't bowl


Vihari has been perfered over Rohit because of his part time bowling ablity so team doesn't fall behind over rate and give more rest to fast bowlers during the innings. It was stated by Virat Kohli himself
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Not for Vihari. For Rahul
 
jnaveen1980 said:
High time they draft Subhman Gill in. He outperformed his captain Vihari in that A team series against WI A team.
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No one gives a damn about A team and B team matches. Shubman Gill, notwithstanding all the songs of praise that his fan club sings about him, is still very untested at the international level. The only time we've seen him is in those two ODIs against NZ where he turned out to be total failure.
 
gani999 said:
No one gives a damn about A team and B team matches. Shubman Gill, notwithstanding all the songs of praise that his fan club sings about him, is still very untested at the international level. The only time we've seen him is in those two ODIs against NZ where he turned out to be total failure.
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Vihari was untested as well. He started playing only recently.
 
What windies need is a good coach.
They have all the talented players, just need to be pushed. The batsmen need more discipline and bowlers should be more relentless.

Also I don't know what has happened to Darren bravo. Was brilliant and by far the best windies batsman.

Hope, chase, bravo hetmyer are very talented.
Roach +holder are brilliant. Cornwall looking good. Even newbies like keemo Paul +alzari Joseph have a lot of potential.

They should just learn how to play sensible cricket. Maybe Gary stead or mickey Arthur can make this into a powerful team
 
Great to see Pant’s name in another record list. 50 dismissals in 11 tests is damn good.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
High time they draft Subhman Gill in. He outperformed his captain Vihari in that A team series against WI A team.
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If anybody needs to be eliminated from test squad immediately is KL Rahul, an utter failure and Rohit Sharma, a thoroughly undeserved selection.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Agarwal has played just 4 tests
Rahul has played 36

Agarwal was brilliant on Aus tour,he should be backed.Rahul needs to be dropped
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Even in this test he scored a gritty 55 in first innings. Average of 40+ in first 4 overseas test as an opener is a decent start.
 
Unbeaten half-centuries from Ajinkya Rahane (64*) and Hamuna Vihari (53*) helped India inch closer to victory in the second Test against West Indies in Jamaica.

The day began with West Indies in a world of trouble at 87/7, from which they could add ten more runs before losing another wicket: Rahkeem Cornwall was dismissed by Mohammad Shami, his 150th scalp in Test cricket.

Ishant Sharma claimed his first scalp just four balls later, dismissing debutant Jahmar Hamilton for a 59-ball 5. West Indies were soon bowled out for 117, as Ravindra Jadeja sent back Kemar Roach for his first scalp of the day.

Beginning their second innings with a 299-run lead, India lost Agarwal early, as Roach trapped him lbw for 4. KL Rahul, Agarwal's opening partner, tried his best to subvert the West Indies new ball bowlers alongside Cheteshwar Pujara.

The opener struggled to get going, though, and scored just six runs in just 63 balls before falling to Roach in the 21st over. Virat Kohli then took guard, but departed for a golden duck in an identical fashion to Rahul: caught-Hamilton-bowled-Roach.

Pujara's struggle for form continued, as he was dismissed for 27 by Jason Holder, with India reduced to 57/4. Adding to his five wickets in the first innings, Holder extracted extra bounce to get an edge from Pujara's bat, which flew to Shamarh Brooks at third slip.

Ajinkya Rahane and Hanuma Vihari, however, steadied the ship thereon, adding 111 runs for the fifth wicket. Vihari, who scored a century in the first innings, impressed once again, reaching his fifty in the 50th over of the innings. Rahane reached the landmark just three balls later, briging up his 19th Test half-century in 91 balls.

Hanuma Vihari and Ajinkya Rahane enjoyed a 111 run partnership Hanuma Vihari and Ajinkya Rahane enjoyed a 111 run partnership
India declared on 168/4 four overs later, setting a mighty 468-run target for the hosts.

It wasn’t long until the visitors made their first breakthrough in the chase, as Sharma had Kraigg Brathwaite caught behind with the score on 9. Darren Bravo then joined John Campbell, and the pair scored at around five-an-over until Campbell departed for 16.

Bravo (18*) and Shamarh Brooks (4*) then got the hosts to stumps without further hiccups, with the scorecard reading 45/2.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1334868
 
shah_1 said:
Gill can't bowl


Vihari has been perfered over Rohit because of his part time bowling ablity so team doesn't fall behind over rate and give more rest to fast bowlers during the innings. It was stated by Virat Kohli himself
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We don't need his bowling, if he can do his primary role well. Finally we've quite a few good bowling options, so don't think we'll be needing his bowling at least in tests.
 
Game should be over by today. Can't see West Indies doing great. They seem mentally off.
 
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