India [493/6d] beat Bangladesh [150 & 213] by an inns and 130 runs in the 1st Test, lead series 1-0

[shane]

I think it's time the ICC put Bangladesh out of its misery and revokes its Test status. In twenty years they have made less than half the progress Afghanistan has made in two years. And now that half their side (Shakib) is gone, they are worse than ever.

 

[MenInG]

I think it's time the ICC put Bangladesh out of its misery and revokes its Test status. In twenty years they have made less than half the progress Afghanistan has made in two years. And now that half their side (Shakib) is gone, they are worse than ever.

Absolute rubbish.

They need to be given time to grow.

IND 493/6 decl
BAN 150, 191/6 (54.0) CRR: 3.54
Day 3: Tea Break - Bangladesh trail by 152 runs

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I love when people make bombastic statements about not holding bat or losing it but cannot even tell the difference between different format of the game. One test series of 3-4 innings means someone averaging 43 cannot hold bat or has lost it completely. Just admit your bee in the bonnet about a young player

As if he is the first young player to play from India lol. Where were you during T20 series against Bangladesh? You should have defended your boy during that series.

Truth is Pant is overhyped by some overexcited fans like you. If I am not wrong you used to make fun of Afridi fans in the past now you are exactly behaving like them.

Pant hasn't been dropped from test team yet so you should not lose hope and believe in the team management. They are giving him chances after chances in LOI's and prefer Saha over him in tests now. He only has himself to blame here.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I think it's time the ICC put Bangladesh out of its misery and revokes its Test status. In twenty years they have made less than half the progress Afghanistan has made in two years. And now that half their side (Shakib) is gone, they are worse than ever.

There was a time when Indian team also used to play like this. Just open the stats of Indian team touring Aus, Eng and South Africa during 90s. I remember in one of the test match Indian team got bowled out on 66 in one inning and 100 in second inning against South Africa in South Africa. Then there was another test where Indian team couldn't even chase 120 against West Indies in West Indies.

So those arrogant fans who are making fun of Bangladesh and those who want to take away the test status from them should look at our own team's performance first. If you don't want to go too far you can always refer to Indian team's tour to England last year. I saw some of the fans even wanted India to stop playing test cricket after that tour lol. These fans become arrogant as soon as Indian team starts playing at home.

 

[Bel_Homme]

Good fight back from Bangladesh. If they manage to stop an innings defeat...they would do well.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Bangladesh should drop Kayes and bring in that young opener. Kayes averages under 25 after 38 tests,he is as worse as their openers in their early years as a test nation

Mushi should bat at 4,Liton at 5/6

 

[jnaveen1980]

All over. Litton Das looked good while he was there. But injudicious shot.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think it's time the ICC put Bangladesh out of its misery and revokes its Test status. In twenty years they have made less than half the progress Afghanistan has made in two years. And now that half their side (Shakib) is gone, they are worse than ever.

As much as it is condescending, i see lot of BD fans wanting a self-exile from Test matches. They lost to Afghanistan at home, Lost to Zimbabwe at home. You can excuse this loss given that India is in dominating home form. But overall their fans don't have much to cheer about.

 

[andy0204]

This match is going to end in 3 days,India at home are invincibles.

My prediction was correct.

 

[tyron_woodley]

There was a time when Indian team also used to play like this. Just open the stats of Indian team touring Aus, Eng and South Africa during 90s. I remember in one of the test match Indian team got bowled out on 66 in one inning and 100 in second inning against South Africa in South Africa. Then there was another test where Indian team couldn't even chase 120 against West Indies in West Indies.

So those arrogant fans who are making fun of Bangladesh and those who want to take away the test status from them should look at our own team's performance first. If you don't want to go too far you can always refer to Indian team's tour to England last year. I saw some of the fans even wanted India to stop playing test cricket after that tour lol. These fans become arrogant as soon as Indian team starts playing at home.

so? india never got walloped at home like Bangladesh. india was always difficult to beat away. One of the hardest places to tour. Many top teams lose away from home but are still strong at home. Bangladesh aren't strong at home either. That's the difference.

Anyway Bangladesh should never be revoked from tests status. That's an absurd idea. They are still developing. They drew vs australia not too long ago I believe. So talent is clearly there.

 

[Bel_Homme]

And to think of it...we didnt play Shami in 2 most important games - CT final 17 and Semi final 19.

 

[tyron_woodley]

And to think of it...we didnt play Shami in 2 most important games - CT final 17 and Semi final 19.

lol blame kohli.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Saha averages 18.50 in Australia and scored 8 runs across 2 innings in South Africa. Let's not make any mistake. Saha is useless with the bat.

saha is not just trash. He is really bad as a batsman.

These days Saha is being sent as a slogger which isn't ideal role for him. Ashwin too is suffering because that isn't his normal batting style. Not saying Saha is a good batsman but wrong to judge him in these match situations where a 15 ball 20 with declaration in sight is understandable. Same guy when allowed time played match winning knocks against WI, NZ and a 100 in Ranchi against Australia.

I vote for Pant, he has age on his side and will improve.

 

[RainStopsPlay]

And for this all important match, we rested Gill and played Kohlis, Rohits and Rahanes. India should just pay for the flight tickets and send these rookie Bangla boys home immediately. Or just let some Ranji team play against them in the next match. Ireland or Zim teams wouldn't do any worse than this!

 

[Shoaib88]

And for this all important match, we rested Gill and played Kohlis, Rohits and Rahanes. India should just pay for the flight tickets and send these rookie Bangla boys home immediately. Or just let some Ranji team play against them in the next match. Ireland or Zim teams wouldn't do any worse than this!

Yes you played rohits and kohlis who made 6 and 0 respectively

 

[RainStopsPlay]

Yes you played rohits and kohlis who made 6 and 0 respectively

Give them a chance to play 2nd innings at least in the next match for them to score.

 

[Bhaijaan]

India has given bigger phainty to many good ranked teams in India hence there is no point to ridicule Bangladesh. Losing to us in India in test cricket is no shame. They could have done better but how many it these players have ever played a test match in India before? Please learn to give respect.

Look forward to the historic Eden Garden pink ball test match. Bangladesh will be playing at their home town literally as Kolkata lives in the hearts of every Bengali still and Ganguly is one of Bangladesh's favorite players. This match will be a tribute to Kolkata, Bengal and every great Bengali to ever come out of Bengal and there have been many great Bengalis coming from Bengal through out history including two Nobel winners in last decade. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

 

[Bhaijaan]

After 150 years of cricket and being father of cricket, England still gets phainty in India mostly.

Same goes for Australia the land of the wild kangaroos.

We have no right to judge Bangladesh.

 

[Swashbuckler]

There was a time when Indian team also used to play like this. Just open the stats of Indian team touring Aus, Eng and South Africa during 90s. I remember in one of the test match Indian team got bowled out on 66 in one inning and 100 in second inning against South Africa in South Africa. Then there was another test where Indian team couldn't even chase 120 against West Indies in West Indies.

So those arrogant fans who are making fun of Bangladesh and those who want to take away the test status from them should look at our own team's performance first. If you don't want to go too far you can always refer to Indian team's tour to England last year. I saw some of the fans even wanted India to stop playing test cricket after that tour lol. These fans become arrogant as soon as Indian team starts playing at home.

Exactly, arrogance of some of the Indian fans is embarrassing, lack basic decency. They must learn from our players how to be humble in victory.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Total domination by Indian pacers...
Even Asian teams can't compete with us anymore in India.

Just need 2 good batters and we could be winning our next eng , saf tours...

 

[tyron_woodley]

Total domination by Indian pacers...
Even Asian teams can't compete with us anymore in India.

Just need 2 good batters and we could be winning our next eng , saf tours...

project England shuru ho gaya 2022.
We will finish them off.
Saffers I don't care. My partner is a saffer so I guess I have a soft spot for them. We already humiliated them enough.
Yes an away win there would be nice but not the end of the world.

 

[WengerOut]

As usual, domination at home and fans have started chest thumping. These tigers would be scared kittens come the NZ tour. Ishant and Shami would be the only competent bowlers while batting would be only Virat. Indians have only improved their domination at home.

 

[Titan24]

As usual, domination at home and fans have started chest thumping. These tigers would be scared kittens come the NZ tour. Ishant and Shami would be the only competent bowlers while batting would be only Virat. Indians have only improved their domination at home.

This time around Indian pace bowing attack is in pretty good form and home series wont be easy for NZ.

 

[MMHS]

India has given bigger phainty to many good ranked teams in India hence there is no point to ridicule Bangladesh. Losing to us in India in test cricket is no shame. They could have done better but how many it these players have ever played a test match in India before? Please learn to give respect.

Look forward to the historic Eden Garden pink ball test match. Bangladesh will be playing at their home town literally as Kolkata lives in the hearts of every Bengali still and Ganguly is one of Bangladesh's favorite players. This match will be a tribute to Kolkata, Bengal and every great Bengali to ever come out of Bengal and there have been many great Bengalis coming from Bengal through out history including two Nobel winners in last decade. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

Thanks bro - we’ll give a better show there. At least if they can pack Imrul back, it’ll be a gain.

The gap in Test cricket is growing alarmingly and I don’t know what to do. As it looks, people back home were extremely unhappy with the loss in 3rd T20.... and today they are happy that our emerging team settled scores��

 

[Relic]

After 150 years of cricket and being father of cricket, England still gets phainty in India mostly.

Same goes for Australia the land of the wild kangaroos.

We have no right to judge Bangladesh.

Everyone is a king at their own home.
You've been beaten by the English for many decades. Same by the Aussies.

 

[sweep_shot]

Predictable result. No shock here.

Congratulations to India. They are too good currently.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Everyone is a king at their own home.
You've been beaten by the English for many decades. Same by the Aussies.

no one is dominating at home like india. Many have lost a few series' at home or drawn. Indian haven't.

 

[tyron_woodley]

As usual, domination at home and fans have started chest thumping. These tigers would be scared kittens come the NZ tour. Ishant and Shami would be the only competent bowlers while batting would be only Virat. Indians have only improved their domination at home.

lol india would annihilate them. bumrah will be back too. I can't wait for the n.z series. Good luck to n.z. Yea they won a series via mccullum fluke when india had vijay Kumar and other trash bowlers bowling. Not the same now.

 

[Relic]

lol india would annihilate them. bumrah will be back too. I can't wait for the n.z series. Good luck to n.z. Yea they won a series via mccullum fluke when india had vijay Kumar and other trash bowlers bowling. Not the same now.

You're going to NZ. They're not coming to India
How can you even say that you'll annihilate them?

 

[RamLakhan]

no one is dominating at home like india. Many have lost a few series' at home or drawn. Indian haven't.

And the interesting thing is we are outplaying the opposition in every departments, including the supposed weak-link "Seam Bowling". We now are 100% sure that our seamers can bowl better than any seamers from any nation on Indian pitches! Only NZ, Eng and SA to some extent have some peculiar bowlers who can exploit more than our seamers on their home pitches! But this is more to do with our batting inability in the last tours! Basically it was because we had weak/unsettled openers! Once we found answer for that in the last Australian tour, Mayank Agarwal joined the team and we saw much settled batting lineup which eventually took us past the line! (I think this was what was missing in SA & Eng tours. If our batting was slightly better, then luck would have turned down to our side! In SA, literally it was almost a shoot-out of Runrate between the teams. So if we had Rohit Sharma opening instead of Dhawan/Rahul, things would have changed slightly! Still I think Rohit Sharma is not the answer for test opening! We should find another guy like Mayank! Prithvi Shaw? Also we should have probably discovered Jadeja- the No.6 batsman before the World Cup! This could have brought more balance to the team!)

So, we were not exactly humiliated by opponents in SENA tours, it is just that we missed the chance to win even there!

 

[RamLakhan]

lol india would annihilate them. bumrah will be back too. I can't wait for the n.z series. Good luck to n.z. Yea they won a series via mccullum fluke when india had vijay Kumar and other trash bowlers bowling. Not the same now.

If Indian team is confident before NZ tour, then they will call us arrogant and what not! And they will caution us about the previous tours! But when eventually India wins in NZ too (as they did against AUS), then they will switch to its a weak NZ team (in their history), luck, etc! The same theory doesn't apply to Indian team of 90s when they used to lose all the overseas tours due to lack of fast bowlers (Overburdened Srinath, Prasad, Kumble - we basically had just these three bowlers). So why can't the same people give this weak-team/bad-luck, etc benefit to that Indian team too? If suddenly Australia, South Africa, NZ, WI teams have become weak, then that's not our problem! If they are spoiled by IPL then let me also say that Indian players were poor in 90s (some of them had to depend on consolation government jobs for their living!)

 

[Swashbuckler]

Next year will define this team's legacy, away tours to NZ and Aus. Test specialists will be fresh, hope we play many warm up FC matches.

 

[tyron_woodley]

You're going to NZ. They're not coming to India
How can you even say that you'll annihilate them?

a full strength india would absolutely annihilate them. Onus is on kohli to pick the right players. This is not the 90s. Indian bowling attack will be too much for the kiwis. if I were captain I wouldn't pick rohit sharma. Shaw and Mayank would open.

bumrah will be back.
shami is a killer.
ishant is in form

middle order is sorted with vihari. they only need to fix the keeper issue. pant has shown ability.

like I said. A full strength indian side would comfortably beat n.z in n.z. In India it should be a crime to even allow n.z to tour. They will get crushed as usual. 3 -0 beautiful phainta they received last time. Glorious stuff.

 

[tyron_woodley]

If Indian team is confident before NZ tour, then they will call us arrogant and what not! And they will caution us about the previous tours! But when eventually India wins in NZ too (as they did against AUS), then they will switch to its a weak NZ team (in their history), luck, etc! The same theory doesn't apply to Indian team of 90s when they used to lose all the overseas tours due to lack of fast bowlers (Overburdened Srinath, Prasad, Kumble - we basically had just these three bowlers). So why can't the same people give this weak-team/bad-luck, etc benefit to that Indian team too? If suddenly Australia, South Africa, NZ, WI teams have become weak, then that's not our problem! If they are spoiled by IPL then let me also say that Indian players were poor in 90s (some of them had to depend on consolation government jobs for their living!)

because people are jealous, petty and scummy individuals. This indian team is a GOAT level team. People should get over it and accept the truth. Best Asian team of all time. I would 100% back this team to crush even the Aussies of 2000 at home.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Next year will define this team's legacy, away tours to NZ and Aus. Test specialists will be fresh, hope we play many warm up FC matches.

even if india loses in australia it wouldn't matter as long as the scoreline is competitive. h2h will still favour india if it's a 2-1 loss because we all know the Aussies are not going to win the series in india.

 

[Smbhayi]

saha is not just trash. He is really bad as a batsman. Imagine this fodder batting in SENA rofl. walking wicket.

Atleast pant can contribute with his 30 plus runs and actually has shown ability to perform in SENA nations.

He is a great wicket keeper for sure but a terrible batsman.

bring in K.S bharat or samson who desevres a chance if pant is mediocre. Samson averages 37 in first class. Good enough for me although sputh african keepers somehow average 45 in domestics lol?? I don't know how but ok.

Pant is a hit or miss player ATM, not reliable.. no matter what situation was team in he'll play same style every time.. and his keeping is badder than Sasha's batting, against pacer too...

 

[tyron_woodley]

Pant is a hit or miss player ATM, not reliable.. no matter what situation was team in he'll play same style every time.. and his keeping is badder than Sasha's batting, against pacer too...

I agree. Well he has done ok in tests though. let's see.

 

[JaDed]

even if india loses in australia it wouldn't matter as long as the scoreline is competitive. h2h will still favour india if it's a 2-1 loss because we all know the Aussies are not going to win the series in india.

I’ll be cautious we all had high hopes of previous overseas tour and except Aus every other one was disappointing.

If Bumrah is fit and focussed , we would be more solid but still.

 

[MenInG]

Bangladesh managed to better their first innings score by 63 runs on day three of the first Test in Indore, but it wasn't enough to stop India from registering their sixth straight win in the ICC World Test Championship.

For quite some time, Mushfiqur Rahim (64), first alongside Liton Das (35), and then with Mehidy Hasan (38), threatened to take the game into the fourth day with some strong resistance. However, the hosts, led by Mohammed Shami's 4/31, wrapped up Bangladesh's second innings for 213 in the final session of play, and with it, registered a comfortable win, by an innings and 130 runs, to take an unassailable 1-0 lead in the two-match series.

India declared at their overnight score of 493/6, leaving Bangladesh needing a minimum of 343 runs to make the hosts bat again. Their start in the second outing wasn't much different to that in the first, as India's new-ball pair of Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav removed the openers Shadman Islam and Imrul Kayes within the first seven overs.

Five overs later Shami, India's go-to man in the second innings, struck twice in quick succession to reduce the visitors to 44/4. He first had the Bangladesh skipper Mominul Haque caught in the crease while bowling from around the wicket, but was denied a leg-before call by the on-field umpire Rod Tucker, before India had it reviewed successfully. In his next over, he got one to hurry on to Mohammad Mithun, who hit it straight to Mayank Agarwal at short mid-wicket on 18.

Post-lunch, Shami had Mahmudullah caught at third slip by Rohit Sharma, who had earlier shelled one off the same bowler, but held on to a sharp chance on this occasion. Liton Das then began his brief counter-attack, and with Mushfiqur soild at the other end, Bangladesh started to look good with the bat for the first time in the Test. Das hit six boundaries during his 39-ball stay, before hitting one straight to Ashwin, not long after the drinks interval.

Mushfiqur then found support in Mehidy Hasan and reached his 20th Test fifty, before Umesh removed the latter in the first over post-tea, with a sharp short-of-length delivery that clattered onto the stumps. Bangladesh's No.9 Taijul Islam then frustrated the hosts with his 43-ball stay, before Shami had him caught behind to earn his fourth wicket of the day. Mushfiqur then ran out of patience, attempting a hoick off R Ashwin to be snaffled brilliantly by Cheteshwar Pujara, running back from mid-off, ending his 150-ball stay at the wicket.

Ashwin removed Ebadat Hossain in his very next over to wrap up a comfortable win. Mayank Agarwal was adjudged the Player of the Match for his marathon innings of 243. The second Test, the first pink-ball affair for both these sides, will be played at Kolkata's Eden Gardens from 22 November.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1496021

 

[Hyperion66]

Next year will define this team's legacy, away tours to NZ and Aus. Test specialists will be fresh, hope we play many warm up FC matches.

Couldn't agree more man, last away season we could have won at least 2 more matches, hopefully our batsmen won't be repeating the same shitshow. One thing I am certain about is that greenest as possible pitches awaits us in NZ. I just hope they are ready.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

a full strength india would absolutely annihilate them. Onus is on kohli to pick the right players. This is not the 90s. Indian bowling attack will be too much for the kiwis. if I were captain I wouldn't pick rohit sharma. Shaw and Mayank would open.

bumrah will be back.
shami is a killer.
ishant is in form

middle order is sorted with vihari. they only need to fix the keeper issue. pant has shown ability.

like I said. A full strength indian side would comfortably beat n.z in n.z. In India it should be a crime to even allow n.z to tour. They will get crushed as usual. 3 -0 beautiful phainta they received last time. Glorious stuff.

Don't fly too high after India's win against Bangladesh. We won't annihilate NZ in NZ.

 

[jnaveen1980]

a full strength india would absolutely annihilate them. Onus is on kohli to pick the right players. This is not the 90s. Indian bowling attack will be too much for the kiwis. if I were captain I wouldn't pick rohit sharma. Shaw and Mayank would open.

bumrah will be back.
shami is a killer.
ishant is in form

middle order is sorted with vihari. they only need to fix the keeper issue. pant has shown ability.

like I said. A full strength indian side would comfortably beat n.z in n.z. In India it should be a crime to even allow n.z to tour. They will get crushed as usual. 3 -0 beautiful phainta they received last time. Glorious stuff.

Their players can take on any attack in NZ. But the history says, almost all genuine quicks have been rewarded in NZ. Especially if you get to bowl on day 1 even dibbly dobbly swing bowlers are mighty effective. It comes down to when you bowl in NZ. If you bowl on day 4 and day 5 any bowler can be taken to cleaners. This team is a very good team at home. And we have a team that susceptible against left arm seamers. If it is swinging we are doubly vulnerable.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Thanks bro - we’ll give a better show there. At least if they can pack Imrul back, it’ll be a gain.

The gap in Test cricket is growing alarmingly and I don’t know what to do. As it looks, people back home were extremely unhappy with the loss in 3rd T20.... and today they are happy that our emerging team settled scores��

Brother India and Bangladesh really need to take their ties to the next level. Honestly speaking i shocked and sad that despite there being very healthy trade ties between the two nations, we have very weak and non existent cultural ties. It comes as a less of a shock when in modern times even most Indians look at Mamta Banerjee led West Bengal as a different country altogether. What do you suggest bro why do Bengalis despite their contribution have weak cultural ties with northern India, Pakistani etc? Tarek Fatah speaks at length about hindi speaking India's obsession with Punjabi Pakistanis.

I vouch for stronger ties with Bangladesh. More tours of India will help them and we can create a win win situation by playing an elite Bangla side play in Ranji trophy maybe or similar arrangement. Indian players will also gain from this exposure.

 

[Bhaijaan]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what disappointed me most was that Bangladeshi spinners looked very average bro. Bangladesh used to have very effective spinnerss.

Currently Bangladesh has arguably the weakest or least attractive Asian spin bowling squad probably please correct me if wrong.

 

[andy0204]

India needs to focus away tests i.e sena countries ,at home they have done it all.
Send players to county cricket instead of playing ipl.

 

[Mainul]

Its because of Ranjhi that India has test level players , I don’t see BD investing much in tests, except for seasoned fans like MMHS , most of their supporters prefer ODI.

I shall be the most glad fan if Bangladesh does play well in tests. But test format is the ultimate test of the players' ability. Bangladeshi players just don't have the skill and temperament to compete at this most elite format of the game. Even after 19 years of playing tests I feel shame to say that still a long way to go...

 

[Mainul]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what disappointed me most was that Bangladeshi spinners looked very average bro. Bangladesh used to have very effective spinnerss.

Currently Bangladesh has arguably the weakest or least attractive Asian spin bowling squad probably please correct me if wrong.

Can't agree more. I thought Taijul as a good spinner but this test proved that he bowls well only on rank Turner's on BD soil. Miraz will never be a lethal off spinner either. Only Shakib has the ability to perform on any surface. We never had an attractive spin bowling.

 

[Relic]

Why did India declare??
They could have won this by at least another 100 runs

 

[Hyperion66]

Can't agree more. I thought Taijul as a good spinner but this test proved that he bowls well only on rank Turner's on BD soil. Miraz will never be a lethal off spinner either. Only Shakib has the ability to perform on any surface. We never had an attractive spin bowling.

You should have give the young leggie a chance, wouldn't have done worse than the current lot, at least we all could have seen some wrist spin.

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what disappointed me most was that Bangladeshi spinners looked very average bro. Bangladesh used to have very effective spinnerss.

Currently Bangladesh has arguably the weakest or least attractive Asian spin bowling squad probably please correct me if wrong.

They were bowling to the best players of spin on a true wicket (this was not a typical Indian turner). Regarding Asian Spinners, I don’t think Rashid & Co had a great outing in their Test against India on a turner.

There are few good young spinners, but not sure how they’ll perform in longer game - our range is 6 overs spell with 5 men on line.

 

[Sin Nombre]

India needs to focus away tests i.e sena countries ,at home they have done it all.
Send players to county cricket instead of playing ipl.

Will that help Kohli win the toss?

I know it is not a popular opinion on PP but India would have won the test series in England if they had won the tosses instead of Root going 5/5 on pitches where batting last was a lost cause.

 

[Sidilicious]

Will that help Kohli win the toss?

I know it is not a popular opinion on PP but India would have won the test series in England if they had won the tosses instead of Root going 5/5 on pitches where batting last was a lost cause.

So, are you saying we should only aim at winning those tests where we win the toss?

A great team wins tests even after losing tosses. So clearly, we are not one of the greatest. Unlike what has been claimed by some arrogant fans.

 

[Relic]

Will that help Kohli win the toss?

I know it is not a popular opinion on PP but India would have won the test series in England if they had won the tosses instead of Root going 5/5 on pitches where batting last was a lost cause.

Same can be said for you vs Aus.
You batted first 3 out of 4 times which is why you won the series.
The match that aus batted first - they won

 

[andy0204]

Will that help Kohli win the toss?

I know it is not a popular opinion on PP but India would have won the test series in England if they had won the tosses instead of Root going 5/5 on pitches where batting last was a lost cause.

Its not about toss,Its about to adapt those conditions.
But Kaptaan never wants practice matches.
Srilanka lost the tosses to South Africa this year still they won the series.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Same can be said for you vs Aus.
You batted first 3 out of 4 times which is why you won the series.
The match that aus batted first - they won

That's precisely why india is a great team. In India even if india loses the tosses they will still smash you inside out. black and blue.

In Australia, new zeland and england, india will still beat those teams with ease if they win the toss. India also beat England when they actually lost the toss in the 4-1 series loss. Kohli messed up the selection otherwise things would have been different.

In Australia I agree toss helped. That's where this indian side needs to prove themselves. If they can win a series away in australia or englsnd despite losing the tosses then I would put them on par with the aussie team of 2000 in terms of greatness.

 

[tyron_woodley]

So, are you saying we should only aim at winning those tests where we win the toss?

A great team wins tests even after losing tosses. So clearly, we are not one of the greatest. Unlike what has been claimed by some arrogant fans.

This is the greatest home dominant team of all time.
greatest Asian team of all time.
no question about it.
Cant compare weak era 70s domination to current modern era.

 

[tyron_woodley]

India needs to focus away tests i.e sena countries ,at home they have done it all.
Send players to county cricket instead of playing ipl.

you know that will never happen right? indian players make far too much money in ipl compared to county. Sad but true.

 

[Sin Nombre]

Its not about toss,Its about to adapt those conditions.
But Kaptaan never wants practice matches.
Srilanka lost the tosses to South Africa this year still they won the series.

The SA that beat Ind and Aus at home at the start of 2018 was a much superior side to the one that lost to SL.

AB was in top form, Amla was still somewhat competent, and they still had Morkel and Steyn.

 

[Sin Nombre]

So, are you saying we should only aim at winning those tests where we win the toss?

A great team wins tests even after losing tosses. So clearly, we are not one of the greatest. Unlike what has been claimed by some arrogant fans.

One of the greatest they are though, just nowhere near the GOAT.

They are not at the level of Australia under Waugh/Ponting.

How many teams in history have been world #1 in tests for 4-5 years running?

 

[The Viper]

Its not about toss,Its about to adapt those conditions.
But Kaptaan never wants practice matches.
Srilanka lost the tosses to South Africa this year still they won the series.

Sri Lanka did well to win vs SA. But, ABD was a huge miss for SA as he was the key man who was instrumental in both series wins vs India and Aus.

 

[Mainul]

You should have give the young leggie a chance, wouldn't have done worse than the current lot, at least we all could have seen some wrist spin.

Aminul was never a specialist wrist spinner, he was rather batsman who can bowl leg spin. He can be taken into LOI, but in tests, asking too much from him. At first he should bowl regularly in first cricket first.

 

[tyron_woodley]

One of the greatest they are though, just nowhere near the GOAT.

They are not at the level of Australia under Waugh/Ponting.

How many teams in history have been world #1 in tests for 4-5 years running?

literally an away win in n.z and England away from being better than ponting's aussie side.
As long as they continue to dominate teams at home and maintain the unbeaten record plus win an away series in England plus ideally n.z too then yes we can label them as a GOAT test team. They are already one of the greatest ever though. top 4 as of now.

 

[andy0204]

Sri Lanka did well to win vs SA. But, ABD was a huge miss for SA as he was the key man who was instrumental in both series wins vs India and Aus.

That Srilankan team was also not good,
They lost series against England at their home,Lost in Australia, Newzealand.