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India become #1 ranked team in ODIs after sealing series win against Australia

India is no. 1 in both Odis and Tests

Pakistan is no. 6 in both Odis and Tests

:srini

Only way for you is to go down from here. There is also a good chance for Pakistan to climb 1-2 spots in at least one format here.

In all seriousness, reaching to rank1 is one thing. How long you hold that is another.
 
What's the consensus in India on Kohli the ODI Captain? Do Indians consider him to be better than Dhoni (exclusively ODIs)?

Of course not, unless you meant excluding ODIs. In fact, Dhoni is effectively still the on field captain in ODIs.
 
@ Leo, you are right, we should not forget 180 run defeat, but dont you guys to be ashamed when you conveniently keep forgetting 12-0 in higher stages than CT even with your so called legends over the years who could not do jack about ever mediocre Indian team.
 
Yet India still lost by 180 runs when it mattered the most.

Congrats team India. No doubt, they are the best team in the world at the moment.

Mattered the most? Not really, world cup is when it matters the most, we have already won the CT twice and it wasn't a big deal :srini
 
What's the consensus in India on Kohli the ODI Captain? Do Indians consider him to be better than Dhoni (exclusively ODIs)?

Dhoni is the greatest limited over captain of all time, so it will take some time for kohli to be better than him, but he will get there, kohli is already way better than dhoni the test captain though.
 
@ Leo, you are right, we should not forget 180 run defeat, but dont you guys to be ashamed when you conveniently keep forgetting 12-0 in higher stages than CT even with your so called legends over the years who could not do jack about ever mediocre Indian team.
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This! You took the words right out of my mouth!
 
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Congrats to India...Party tym!!!

No.1 in tests and no.1 in ODIs.
 
Not just that, even if we lose only one of the next 2 odis, we'll remain no. 1 but sa will quickly regain its position by beating bangladesh

lol ... you are right ... the only solution is to keep winning ... but hey that is so easy to do in Bilaterals according to [MENTION=145164]Proactive_[/MENTION] :))
 
What's the consensus in India on Kohli the ODI Captain? Do Indians consider him to be better than Dhoni (exclusively ODIs)?

I don't know about the consensus, but generally Kohli is a pretty aggressive player and that is a good thing for the team as long it doesn't get to the point of being uncivilized.
 
Congrats to India. Under Kohli they seem ruthless, determined,hungry, and fit. Kohli is always going for the win and that spreads through to the rest of the team. He may not be the best tactically but his personality and attitude is rubbing onto the rest of the team.

It was hillairious to see on that thread that some posters were saying how rubbish a captain Kohli is. I'll admit he isn't the best tactically but if he was bad as some posters were saying India wouldn't be top of the rankings in ODIs and tests.

I think Kohli will finish his career as one of crickets greats in terms of batting, capatincy wise if he can keep India at the top of the rankings and win an ICC tournament he can finish as a great captain.
 
Congrats to India. Under Kohli they seem ruthless, determined,hungry, and fit. Kohli is always going for the win and that spreads through to the rest of the team. He may not be the best tactically but his personality and attitude is rubbing onto the rest of the team.

It was hillairious to see on that thread that some posters were saying how rubbish a captain Kohli is. I'll admit he isn't the best tactically but if he was bad as some posters were saying India wouldn't be top of the rankings in ODIs and tests.

I think Kohli will finish his career as one of crickets greats in terms of batting, capatincy wise if he can keep India at the top of the rankings and win an ICC tournament he can finish as a great captain.

You give captaincy to Sharma and the outcome will be the same. Normally a captain is as good as his team unless you are a revolutionary like Imran, Ganguly, Border, etc.
 
You give captaincy to Sharma and the outcome will be the same. Normally a captain is as good as his team unless you are a revolutionary like Imran, Ganguly, Border, etc.

Actually giving it to Sharma might make India a greater team. He leads Mumbai Indians and has done a great job there
 
India has done good nodoubt, but where are Strac and HW, they both are injured or rested? - Its almost like a AUS-B side, Strac/HW are half of their bowling. In batting friendly conditions top tier bowlers are even more important...They cannot win many matches without them, specially in Asia. I don't see AUS as favorite for WC 2019 without Strac, bowlers are lot more important for tournaments and he is best in the world...

AUS batting is in downward spiral, too many bits and pieces cricketers...
 
India has done good nodoubt, but where are Strac and HW, they both are injured or rested? - Its almost like a AUS-B side, Strac/HW are half of their bowling. In batting friendly conditions top tier bowlers are even more important...They cannot win many matches without them, specially in Asia. I don't see AUS as favorite for WC 2019 without Strac, bowlers are lot more important for tournaments and he is best in the world...

AUS batting is in downward spiral, too many bits and pieces cricketers...

Outside of Australia aus team is literally minnow level right now.

They haven't won single game in last 13 matches. U r telling as if starc, Hazelwood bowling will make them unbeatable which is not. Their batsman are bunnies when there is any seam, swing or spin.
 
India has done good nodoubt, but where are Strac and HW, they both are injured or rested? - Its almost like a AUS-B side, Strac/HW are half of their bowling. In batting friendly conditions top tier bowlers are even more important...They cannot win many matches without them, specially in Asia. I don't see AUS as favorite for WC 2019 without Strac, bowlers are lot more important for tournaments and he is best in the world...

AUS batting is in downward spiral, too many bits and pieces cricketers...

It is not our problem that australia's team is dependent on just 1-2 guys, the games are not even close, they have lost 12-13 of their last 15 matches with 2 matches being washouts, that's just pathetic and missing 2 guys doesn't make it a B team, if it does then your bench strength absolutely sucks.
 
You give captaincy to Sharma and the outcome will be the same. Normally a captain is as good as his team unless you are a revolutionary like Imran, Ganguly, Border, etc.

No, a lackadaisical, careless and lazy character like sharma would have a negative impact on the team, kohli brings aggression and never say die attitude to this team which makes this team special
 
India has done good nodoubt, but where are Strac and HW, they both are injured or rested? - Its almost like a AUS-B side, Strac/HW are half of their bowling. In batting friendly conditions top tier bowlers are even more important...They cannot win many matches without them, specially in Asia. I don't see AUS as favorite for WC 2019 without Strac, bowlers are lot more important for tournaments and he is best in the world...

AUS batting is in downward spiral, too many bits and pieces cricketers...

Australia's bowling isn't the problem this series. The bowlers did well, and the likes of NCN aren't much worse than Hazlewood.
 
It is not our problem that australia's team is dependent on just 1-2 guys, the games are not even close, they have lost 12-13 of their last 15 matches with 2 matches being washouts, that's just pathetic and missing 2 guys doesn't make it a B team, if it does then your bench strength absolutely sucks.

You take out two main players, India would be crushing down too...Its AUSes bowling that deliver them WC, take out top two bowlers of any team, that would become B team...

This result tells me AUS has gotten weak, not India become strong...India will be touring West, lets judge them on those results, not to mention WC 2019 is not that far away ;-)
 
You take out two main players, India would be crushing down too...Its AUSes bowling that deliver them WC, take out top two bowlers of any team, that would become B team...

This result tells me AUS has gotten weak, not India become strong...India will be touring West, lets judge them on those results, not to mention WC 2019 is not that far away ;-)

Keep the whines going. Australian bowling has done well in all 3 games so far, its their batting that has failed - and that is at full strength.

Better hope that the Fixing Butt is back to Forgiven Butt before Pakistan's next tour to Australia. Maybe then you will have a snowball's chance in hell of winning a test match down under.
 
You take out two main players, India would be crushing down too...Its AUSes bowling that deliver them WC, take out top two bowlers of any team, that would become B team...

This result tells me AUS has gotten weak, not India become strong...India will be touring West, lets judge them on those results, not to mention WC 2019 is not that far away ;-)

Dhawan, Ashwin and Jadeja are also not playing for India at home. They are big players when they play in India.
 
And suddenly now...the general consensus will be ranking system is flawed :)))
 
This! You took the words right out of my mouth!

TBH only a 50 over WC final beats the CT final. By definition a final is the apex game and CT is the #2 tournament. So the only higher ranking game is the #1 tourney final.
 
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On the issue India are great right now. Esp at home - need to travel well but being blanked in SA and Eng next summer seems likely.
 
TBH only a 50 over WC final beats the CT final. By definition a final is the apex game and CT is the #2 tournament. So the only higher ranking game is the #1 tourney final.

As you say so Sir. Ofcourse, criterias will be decide by only you guys.
 
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As you say so Sir. Ofcourse, criterias will be decide by only you guys.

No Bengali cares about Pk v I. Just using logic. You can act like Indians didnt care but your nation was in mourning. :))
 
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Dhawan, Ashwin and Jadeja are also not playing for India at home. They are big players when they play in India.

Ashwin and Jadeja are dropped because of performance enhancement(I mean degradation). Dhawan is the only omission. India is moving on from these two in LOIs it seems...Ashwin effectiveness in LOIs is reduced significantly since chucking is banned, Jadeja was darter from get go...India is rightly looking for better options for future...I suspect there effectiveness will be exposed in overseas test (outside Asia) too soon...
 
No Bengali cares about Pk v I. Just using logic. You can act like Indians didnt care but your nation was in mourning. :))

I dont think so. I think we Indians really mourned when we were lost 4-0 in tests against Aus and Eng. To be honest, no one even discusses CT anymore as we have moved forward and focusing on current Aus series after SL series and agter Aus it would be NZ. Believe me like neigbours, we are not stucked at 2012 Ind-Pak or CT. The reason behind it is Ind has won many meaningful tournaments and Pak has only one.
 
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Useless achievement.

I would prefer wining world cup even if it means ranked #10 all the time.
 
Just saying, team can also win Worldcup as #1. Maybe for you its useless but for players it would mean something.

1. Winning world cup was the achievement. The rank was just a bonus which is irrelevant whether it was there or not. If you get some direct entries due to being #1, we have case about why #1 is important.

2. Players never think about rankings. This has been stated by team India time and time again. And I believe it is the right thing to do.

You build a team for world cup.

You build a team for tours.

You never build a team to go up the rankings. It is just a result that comes along with the other two.
 
1. Winning world cup was the achievement. The rank was just a bonus which is irrelevant whether it was there or not. If you get some direct entries due to being #1, we have case about why #1 is important.

2. Players never think about rankings. This has been stated by team India time and time again. And I believe it is the right thing to do.

You build a team for world cup.

You build a team for tours.

You never build a team to go up the rankings. It is just a result that comes along with the other two.

Perhaps we can just say that # 1 ranking is somewhat reward for the hardwork done by Indian team along with coach and management. Yes, rankings are meaningless in Worldcup, and id also take Worldcup win over rankings. However, one shouldn't discount it altogether, its still a big thing.
 
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