India gives Pakistan dossier on JeM role in Pulwama terror attack

[Runner Up]

NEW DELHI: India on Wednesday handed over to Pakistan a dossier with specific details of Jaish-e-Mohammed's complicity in the Pulwama terror attack. In the dossier, India also provided details of the presence of JeM terror camps and its leadership in Pakistan.

The dossier was handed over to the acting high commissioner of Pakistan Syed Haider Shah, who was summoned this afternoon by MEA to lodge a strong protest at the unprovoked act of aggression by Pakistan against India, including violation of the Indian air space by Pakistan Air Force and targeting of Indian military posts.

The deputy high commissioner was told that India expects Pakistan to take immediate and verifiable action against terrorism emanating from territories under its control.

Regret was expressed at continuing denial by Pakistan’s political and military leadership at the presence of terrorist infrastructure on territories under its control.

Link here

 

[Varun]

Come on Pakistan. Get rid of them. What have they done for either for us?

 

[Syed1]

Damn look at the comments on that news link.



The arrogance of Indians despite having their two jets downed today

 

[Varun]

Damn look at the comments on that news link.

Did you seriously bother going through a Times of India comments roll?

 

[Greenstorm]

If there is something genuine in there which I doubt, than we should take action.

 

[last_knight]

That's like sending your opening batsman at number 11.

 

[barah_admi]

So....a dossier is sent almost two weeks after the attack, over a week after Pakistan's PM called for calm and diplomacy and two days after India launched an illegal attack across a border line.

What is the point of this exactly ?

 

[90MPH]

Is there concrete evidence that bus bombings have any direct link to Pakistan ??

I don’t want to see nonsense about terror camps and other Indian propaganda.

As far as I know everything so far doesnt dispute that the suicide bombing was planned, prepared and executed on the Indian side of the border by an Indian Kashmiri.

 

[slipcatch]

Modi need an excuse to keep it escalated.

It isn't over yet.

unfortunately, more to die on both side of the border.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why didn't they just hand over this dossier before launching the attack on Pakistani soil? Didn't Imran Khan give his word he would move against any alleged terrorists if India could provide actionable proof?

It is really bizarre, you can only imagine it is an attempt to save face without further escalation.

 

[BlackThunder]

Pakistan has three hostile neighbors all singing the same tune. Now that its longstanding ally the US has taken a hard stance against it, Pakistan has no choice but to commit to stop supporting terrorist groups and eradicate this menace from its soil once and for all. Pakistan's future depends on it.

 

[Stalin]

Damn look at the comments on that news link.



The arrogance of Indians despite having their two jets downed today

Two ? Even your chief has accepted that it was only one jet. That too not downed by you, rather a technical fault which resulted in it's failure fortunately for you in POK. Stop believingng everything your media says.

 

[Sirris]

So....a dossier is sent almost two weeks after the attack, over a week after Pakistan's PM called for calm and diplomacy and two days after India launched an illegal attack across a border line.

What is the point of this exactly ?

Ideally they should have handed in the dossier without first violating Pakistan's airspace and spreading propaganda through their media. Better late than never. Now we should properly scrutinize it and take actions where required.

 

[Syed1]

Two ? Even your chief has accepted that it was only one jet. That too not downed by you, rather a technical fault which resulted in it's failure fortunately for you in POK. Stop believingng everything your media says.

Haha ok and believe what your media says?



And as for our "chief".... the DG ISPR has said and still maintains 2 Indian jets were shot down. Even PM said the same thing, but what do I know.



I know it is good coping mechanism for you bhakts.

 

[slipcatch]

Two ? Even your chief has accepted that it was only one jet. That too not downed by you, rather a technical fault which resulted in it's failure fortunately for you in POK. Stop believingng everything your media says.

which cheif?

 

[sshakir411]

Should have shared this before being adventurous. Dumb

 

[King-Misbah]

Okay; finally some sanity shown by the Indian govt. If the dossier has substance then action will be taken.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ideally they should have handed in the dossier without first violating Pakistan's airspace and spreading propaganda through their media. Better late than never. Now we should properly scrutinize it and take actions where required.

India already took action, they killed 300 JeM militants remember? That means there can't be much left to take care of other than organise the burial of the dead terrorists.

 

[Syed1]

Should have shared this a week or so ago before trying to enter our airspace.

 

[90MPH]

Pakistan has three hostile neighbors all singing the same tune. Now that its longstanding ally the US has taken a hard stance against it, Pakistan has no choice but to commit to stop supporting terrorist groups and eradicate this menace from its soil once and for all. Pakistan's future depends on it.

If Donald Trump is not backing India then you know are talking complete horseshit.

He has stayed neutral because you have not given the US even a shred of evidence to back up your nonsense claims that the bus bombing on your soldiers had any direct link to Pakistan.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Should have shared this a week or so ago before trying to enter our airspace.

It takes time to make a fake dossier.

 

[90MPH]

Ideally they should have handed in the dossier without first violating Pakistan's airspace and spreading propaganda through their media. Better late than never. Now we should properly scrutinize it and take actions where required.

There is no evidence the attack was planned in Pakistan. It’s All in India and they know it because the US would have come out with Donald Trump backing them 100% had they got any proof.

But the reason they have been on the fence is they have no evidence of a direct link. At most it could be a financial link but still have doubts there as well.

 

[Slog]

On topic - This should be taken seriously and seen if there is any real actionable intelligence

 

[Syed1]

So they roamed around 21 mins yesterday (as per bhakts) but today they had 2 planes down within seconds of entering territory. Uff I'm loving the humiliation of the bhakts.

 

[Slog]

So they roamed around 21 mins yesterday (as per bhakts) but today they had 2 planes down within seconds of entering territory. Uff I'm loving the humiliation of the bhakts.

Lol and they have zero evidence of 300 kills and we have showed proof of one guy

Which parallel universe were the terror camps in where there was no evidenceimages, ambulances or funerals in this day and age where everyone has a cellphone camera

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistan has three hostile neighbors all singing the same tune. Now that its longstanding ally the US has taken a hard stance against it, Pakistan has no choice but to commit to stop supporting terrorist groups and eradicate this menace from its soil once and for all. Pakistan's future depends on it.

Is one of those three hostile neighbours Iran? Supposedly they were launching military action on the Balochistan front in solidarity with India right? What happened there, any updates? )

 

[Canford Cliffs]

And downed a few trees

On the other hand we paraded your little bish of a pilot like a mule

Again....you are missing the point. You paraded the pilot in your own country. Pak jets tried to enter airspace this morning but couldnt bcoz our IAF chased them out. This pilot chased your jets all the way till Pakistan and Pak army caught him. He will be returned under Geneva conventions..no biggie.

On the other hand, India entered your airspace....stayed there for 21 mins and came back without any issues.

There is a difference.

 

[90MPH]

Nothing to be worried about. Now if Pakistani planes had dropped a bomb inside Indian territory beyond the line of control than I would have felt the same humiliation as you did yesterday but as of right now I am glad our pilot is alive and well.

But your attack was totally meaningless.

Your Indian media machine said 300 terrorists dead - complete lies. But Do you still believe it ?

Pakistan took 2 down planes and grabbed your pilot. We showed proof, your media has shown nothing but chest thumping propaganda.

Even Mamoon of all people is not backing you. Not a leg to stand on.

 

[Syed1]

Again....you are missing the point. You paraded the pilot in your own country. Pak jets tried to enter airspace this morning but couldnt bcoz our IAF chased them out. This pilot chased your jets all the way till Pakistan and Pak army caught him. He will be returned under Geneva conventions..no biggie.

On the other hand, India entered your airspace....stayed there for 21 mins and came back without any issues.

There is a difference.

Man I've seen many delusional people but you take the cake.

 

[Khan12]

Lol and they have zero evidence of 300 kills and we have showed proof of one guy

Which parallel universe were the terror camps in where there was no evidenceimages, ambulances or funerals in this day and age where everyone has a cellphone camera

They did kill someone. A Crow.

 

[Khan12]

Man I've seen many delusional people but you take the cake.

Don't forget the bakery.

 

[Syed1]

Pakistan will forever have the egg on India that they downed their two jets and captured the pilot. India will never be able to live down this humiliation and this hurts the bhakts on this thread.

 

[Khan12]

Pakistan will forever have the egg on India that they downed their two jets and captured the pilot. India will never be able to live down this humiliation and this hurts the bhakts on this thread.

A specific poster is nowhere to be seen.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Man I've seen many delusional people but you take the cake.

Which part I am saying is incorrect sir? Its true that 1 IAF plane being brought down and 1 pilot in Pak custody. It happens in a war. But the fact remains, no Pak plane could enter Indian airspace....infact couldnt cross LOC. Indian jets entered in Pakistan and your own army admitted...it was dark and they couldnt take any action.

That 300 figure is wrong...which I agree.

 

[Manager101]

Pakistan will forever have the egg on India that they downed their two jets and captured the pilot. India will never be able to live down this humiliation and this hurts the bhakts on this thread.

Calm down bro.

Hopefully situation de-escalates soon and people live with peace.

 

[Syed1]

Which part I am saying is incorrect sir? Its true that 1 IAF plane being brought down and 1 pilot in Pak custody. It happens in a war. But the fact remains, no Pak plane could enter Indian airspace....infact couldnt cross LOC. Indian jets entered in Pakistan and your own army admitted...it was dark and they couldnt take any action.

That 300 figure is wrong...which I agree.

Go and read your own media. Pak planes entered IoK, targeted some military posts and were being chased back when the two Indian chasing jets crossed the LoC they were shot down.


You can chose to believe this or not, that's your choice but it will not change the facts. At the end of the day your believing or not believing does not matter.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Go and read your own media. Pak planes entered IoK, targeted some military posts and were being chased back when the two Indian chasing jets crossed the LoC they were shot down.


You can chose to believe this or not, that's your choice but it will not change the facts. At the end of the day your believing or not believing does not matter.

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] - Is it true that Pak jets entered Indian airspace?

 

[Sirris]

There is no evidence the attack was planned in Pakistan. It’s All in India and they know it because the US would have come out with Donald Trump backing them 100% had they got any proof.

But the reason they have been on the fence is they have no evidence of a direct link. At most it could be a financial link but still have doubts there as well.

If the dossier is void of any actual proof we should easily be able to show it to the world and expose it.

It's not just about Pulwama attack, where of course a local Kashmiri was involved and I can't imagine him crossing LoC and travel to Balakot area to receive the necessary training and then returning back to Pulwama to conduct the attack. let alone somehow manage to import the explosives from Pakistan. It's about the fact the JeM has places like Markaz Usman-o-Ali in Bahawalpur. Even though it is not a military training camp it is still an institute run by JeM and they don't even hide this affiliation. Our leadership either needs to own them and their goals and refute accusation of it being a terror organization or they should completely disown them and shut their activities down. One or the other.

Of course most of the Pakistani population will always have sympathy and support for Kashmiri struggle and indirectly have sympathy for militant organization who are active there but it's time to make a clear decision on how we are going to support the struggle and fully commit to the decision made.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

India are covering there tracks, they SHOULD have done this when Imran asked them too but instead India after 50 years violated our airspace.

Utter, stupidity.

Im really convinced now this was to get election votes but it has backfired.

 

[Syed1]

If the dossier is void of any actual proof we should easily be able to show it to the world and expose it.

It's not just about Pulwama attack, where of course a local Kashmiri was involved and I can't imagine him crossing LoC and travel to Balakot area to receive the necessary training and then returning back to Pulwama to conduct the attack. let alone somehow manage to import the explosives from Pakistan. It's about the fact the JeM has places like Markaz Usman-o-Ali in Bahawalpur. Even though it is not a military training camp it is still an institute run by JeM and they don't even hide this affiliation. Our leadership either needs to own them and their goals and refute accusation of it being a terror organization or they should completely disown them and shut their activities down. One or the other.

Of course most of the Pakistani population will always have sympathy and support for Kashmiri struggle and indirectly have sympathy for militant organization who are active there but it's time to make a clear decision on how we are going to support the struggle and fully commit to the decision made.

Think best course of action will be closed down all institutions affiliated with JeM and put the guy on trial. If he indeed is guilty he should be treated no different than how we treat terrorists that target us.

That will go a long way in de-escalating the situation.

 

[Sirris]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] - Is it true that Pak jets entered Indian airspace?

Is he the official spokesperson of the Indian army?

In the OP which is an article from Times of India it says:

The dossier was handed over to the acting high commissioner of Pakistan Syed Haider Shah, who was summoned this afternoon by MEA to lodge a strong protest at the unprovoked act of aggression by Pakistan against India, including violation of the Indian air space by Pakistan Air Force and targeting of Indian military posts.

As you can see according to your own media PAF did enter into Indian air space.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

i have a feeling this is not over, expecting retaliation from India tonight.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

where is modi, he is a gunda why is he hiding?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If the dossier is void of any actual proof we should easily be able to show it to the world and expose it.

It's not just about Pulwama attack, where of course a local Kashmiri was involved and I can't imagine him crossing LoC and travel to Balakot area to receive the necessary training and then returning back to Pulwama to conduct the attack. let alone somehow manage to import the explosives from Pakistan. It's about the fact the JeM has places like Markaz Usman-o-Ali in Bahawalpur. Even though it is not a military training camp it is still an institute run by JeM and they don't even hide this affiliation. Our leadership either needs to own them and their goals and refute accusation of it being a terror organization or they should completely disown them and shut their activities down. One or the other.

Of course most of the Pakistani population will always have sympathy and support for Kashmiri struggle and indirectly have sympathy for militant organization who are active there but it's time to make a clear decision on how we are going to support the struggle and fully commit to the decision made.

But this whole war footing is about the Pulwama attack, it is linked to that direct incident. Everything else you say makes sense, but Pakistan should be doing that of it's own accord. Once India has linked their aggression to Pulwama then it is blurring the lines to say Pakistan should be acting for other reasons.

 

[the Great Khan]

err hunh? why not present this last week? and then the language..we expect results blah blah..abay chup kur kay araam say bhaito..my goodness have some shame..the takabur on show is beyond belief. As you may have noticed we dont work well when threatened. A simple dossier inmho isnt enough. If it cant hold up in a court of law its not worth the paper its written on. And what if we reject the dossier and say we need more? will you send planes to bomb a field again? this is a bit rich!!

 

[Kroll]

i have a feeling this is not over, expecting retaliation from India tonight.

Not sure what they would be retaliating for. They attacked first, we gave response, now balanced out.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not sure what they would be retaliating for. They attacked first, we gave response, now balanced out.

Modi is not going to accept balance. It is a big loss of face for India to attack first then suffer bigger losses. This is not about terrorists or Pulwama any more, it is about Indian pride and Modi's future. If he doesn't win a decisive battle his reputation will be in tatters.

 

[slipcatch]

Modi is not going to accept balance. It is a big loss of face for India to attack first then suffer bigger losses. This is not about terrorists or Pulwama any more, it is about Indian pride and Modi's future. If he doesn't win a decisive battle his reputation will be in tatters.

And you as Indian would allow some radicalized extremists to kill thousands of common man because his pride was hurt?

what do you inhale?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

And you as Indian would allow some radicalized extremists to kill thousands of common man because his pride was hurt?

what do you inhale?

He has previous. He did just that in Gujarat in 2002. The best hope is that someone in his govt decides he is out of his depth and hopefully the free hand given to the Indian armed forces to deal with the situation will see them stand down.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Pak F-16 brought down to earth video

https://m.republicworld.com/india-n...ll-of-flame-after-being-shot-by-indias-mig-21

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Pak F-16 brought down to earth video

https://m.republicworld.com/india-n...ll-of-flame-after-being-shot-by-indias-mig-21

We haven't lost an F-16. (might happen sometime).

We haven't lost 300 imaginary terrorists.

We have your captured solider and you have lost your MIG-21.

You want to feel happy by watching Indian news, then do so. But don't say I told you so.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pak F-16 brought down to earth video

https://m.republicworld.com/india-n...ll-of-flame-after-being-shot-by-indias-mig-21

LOL. You'd get more detail from a video of a firecracker on Bonfire night.

 

[Slog]

Pak F-16 brought down to earth video

https://m.republicworld.com/india-n...ll-of-flame-after-being-shot-by-indias-mig-21

Omg how gullible are you.

Besides Pakistan is not even allowed to use F16 in offensive scenarios

 

[Dr_Bassim]

LOL. You'd get more detail from a video of a firecracker on Bonfire night.

)

Keep it coming bro. You're on a roll today.

 

[Civil]

Why not bring this dossier BEFORE when Imran asked for it...rather than now after invading our territory and hurting our trees.

Seriously government India has lost the plot.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I hope it contains the correct names of all the different types of trees planted in the area #billiontreetsunami

 

[Zeeraq]

India should've given this dossier before breaching the LoC.

 

[PakLFC]

It will be the same old accusations of Pak biscuits been found on the poor victims of the Pulwama attack. This is what India calls evidence.

 

[barah_admi]

Ideally they should have handed in the dossier without first violating Pakistan's airspace and spreading propaganda through their media. Better late than never. Now we should properly scrutinize it and take actions where required.

Of course they should have and that is the major problem now. What is a dossier worth after violating international borders and truces?

 

[cric_man]

Pak F-16 brought down to earth video

https://m.republicworld.com/india-n...ll-of-flame-after-being-shot-by-indias-mig-21

From this video it could have been the Mig21 that fell in Occupied Kashmir. Show us the wreckage

 

[Braveheart]

With the Captured Indian terrorist Jadav 'singing like a canary', Pakistan will have a dossier the size of an encyclopaedia on the Indian infiltration and support for terrorists in Baluchistan and Afghanistan over the last decade.

 

[Hamza_]

What evidence is there?

 

[Technics 1210]

So....a dossier is sent almost two weeks after the attack, over a week after Pakistan's PM called for calm and diplomacy and two days after India launched an illegal attack across a border line.

What is the point of this exactly ?

It took 2 weeks to fabricate the evidence no doubt.

 

[barah_admi]

It took 2 weeks to fabricate the evidence no doubt.

A good lie does take a while to formulate.